• Hmmmm, Where is the floppy drive in XP?

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    Subject: Hmmmm, Where is the floppy drive in XP?
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    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected
    the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables
    connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote
    and formatted a floppy.

    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy
    listed. It says it's working fine.

    I went to the command line, and typed A:
    It says "Invalid drive specification".

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

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    On 11/14/2017 06:27 AM, james@nospam.com wrote:
    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end),



    <snip>


    No, you did not mention it on this thread, if you want help you should
    do that
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    Subject: Re: Hmmmm, Where is the floppy drive in XP?
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    James,

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    Have you already checked for the B: drive ?

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

    Nope. That cable is designed to support *two* floppy drives, with one
    before the twist, and the other after (as regarded from the connector thats connected to the motherboard).

    In short: Move your drive from before the twist to after (or vise verse),
    and you most likely will see your A: drive appear. :-)

    Hope that helps.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    P.s.
    Googeling for "floppy cable with twist", or even "drive cable with twist" shows an explanation as the first hit ...

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    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:27:43 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected
    the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables >connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote
    and formatted a floppy.

    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy
    listed. It says it's working fine.

    I went to the command line, and typed A:
    It says "Invalid drive specification".

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???


    5 wire twist or 7 wire twist?
    Do you have the power cable plugged it?
    Did you boot the machine?
    Does it spin on the boot?
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    In message <if3m0d123uqgndp1poijv72nrgjo0t0frm@4ax.com>,
    gfretwell@aol.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:27:43 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected
    the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables >>connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote
    and formatted a floppy.

    To clarify: your computer already had a floppy drive, and connecting the
    new drive in its place, works. So how are you connecting it when it
    _doesn't_ work, presumably with the (new?) cable-with-a-twist you
    mention? To the same place on the motherboard as the existing one? If
    the existing one has a cable with no twist, which side of the twist are
    you connecting?

    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy
    listed. It says it's working fine.

    I went to the command line, and typed A:
    It says "Invalid drive specification".

    Even with a (formatted OK) floppy in?

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

    (Possibly, though I'd have thought it wouldn't show in control panel.
    Does it show a drive letter there [I presume you mean Device Manager]?
    Does it show a drive letter for C: there?)

    5 wire twist or 7 wire twist?
    Do you have the power cable plugged it?
    I did wonder that too (-:

    Did you boot the machine?
    Does it spin on the boot?
    Good question: many BIOSes have a setting for whether it should try the
    floppy on boot; turning it off saves time (and arguably wear on the
    drive, though minimal). Though if there's something about that setting
    that's stopping it working, I'd have expected it to stop the existing
    one working, hence the question re how you're connecting the new one.

    Does its light flash - on boot? When you try to access it? At any other
    time?
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    From: james@nospam.com
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    Subject: Re: Hmmmm, Where is the floppy drive in XP?
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    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:34:35 +0100, "R.Wieser" <address@not.available>
    wrote:

    James,

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    Have you already checked for the B: drive ?

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

    Nope. That cable is designed to support *two* floppy drives, with one >before the twist, and the other after (as regarded from the connector thats >connected to the motherboard).

    In short: Move your drive from before the twist to after (or vise verse), >and you most likely will see your A: drive appear. :-)

    Hope that helps.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    P.s.
    Googeling for "floppy cable with twist", or even "drive cable with twist" >shows an explanation as the first hit ...


    It's a SINGLE cable. Only one drive connector, and that one has the
    twist. Yea, I did try B:.

    I planned to pull the (known to work) cable out of my Win98 puter, but I
    was downloading something at the time, and I try not to plug/unplug
    stuff from the MOBO while the machine is running. Unplugging just that
    cable probably woukd not hurt anything, but another cable could get
    unplugged in the process, with stuff being crammed together.

    I might go to the garage and see what's inside some of the real old
    computers that I have. I would assume they all have floppy drive cables.
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    Subject: Re: Hmmmm, Where is the floppy drive in XP?
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    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:39:54 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:27:43 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected
    the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables >>connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote
    and formatted a floppy.

    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy
    listed. It says it's working fine.

    I went to the command line, and typed A:
    It says "Invalid drive specification".

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???


    5 wire twist or 7 wire twist?

    SEVEN
    (why do they make two different types?)
    The one which works on my Win98 puter is also SEVEN.

    Do you have the power cable plugged it?

    Yes

    Did you boot the machine?

    Yes, several times

    Does it spin on the boot?

    No

    Just for the heck of it, I booted a linux flash drive. I dont see A: or
    B: in there either.

    However, I am now wondering if it could be possible that something in
    the bios needs to be changed? I know I have it set to boot from a flash
    drive FIRST, then the HDD, and lastly the CD player. But since this
    computer has never had a floppy drive, maybe there is some bios setting
    to change?????
    I would have looked already, but I cant remember what key to hit to get
    into the bios. Its a homemade computer so looking that up may be tricky.
    I think I need to start putting labels on every computer saying what key
    needs to be pressed to go to the bios.
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    Subject: Re: Hmmmm, Where is the floppy drive in XP?
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    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:57:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <if3m0d123uqgndp1poijv72nrgjo0t0frm@4ax.com>,
    gfretwell@aol.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:27:43 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used >>>that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected >>>the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables >>>connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote >>>and formatted a floppy.

    To clarify: your computer already had a floppy drive, and connecting the
    new drive in its place, works. So how are you connecting it when it >_doesn't_ work, presumably with the (new?) cable-with-a-twist you
    mention? To the same place on the motherboard as the existing one? If
    the existing one has a cable with no twist, which side of the twist are
    you connecting?

    Once again, you are not listening to what I said.
    The drive works fine on my WIN98 computer, using the cable inside that computer.

    It DOES NOT work on my XP computer.\

    Two entirely different computers!


    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy >>>listed. It says it's working fine.

    I went to the command line, and typed A:
    It says "Invalid drive specification".

    Even with a (formatted OK) floppy in?

    Yes


    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

    (Possibly, though I'd have thought it wouldn't show in control panel.
    Does it show a drive letter there [I presume you mean Device Manager]?

    Yes

    Does it show a drive letter for C: there?)

    Yes, as well as D: (CD drive) and other letters if I plug in any USB
    sticks.


    5 wire twist or 7 wire twist?
    Do you have the power cable plugged it?
    I did wonder that too (-:

    Did you boot the machine?
    Does it spin on the boot?
    Good question: many BIOSes have a setting for whether it should try the >floppy on boot; turning it off saves time (and arguably wear on the
    drive, though minimal). Though if there's something about that setting >that's stopping it working, I'd have expected it to stop the existing
    one working, hence the question re how you're connecting the new one.

    Does its light flash - on boot? When you try to access it? At any other >time?

    No
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    In message <frim0dhrf5dcu686eh5gf1og9hbbkfbiul@4ax.com>,
    james@nospam.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:57:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <if3m0d123uqgndp1poijv72nrgjo0t0frm@4ax.com>,
    gfretwell@aol.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:27:43 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used >>>>that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected >>>>the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables >>>>connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote >>>>and formatted a floppy.

    To clarify: your computer already had a floppy drive, and connecting the >>new drive in its place, works. So how are you connecting it when it >>_doesn't_ work, presumably with the (new?) cable-with-a-twist you
    mention? To the same place on the motherboard as the existing one? If
    the existing one has a cable with no twist, which side of the twist are
    you connecting?

    Once again, you are not listening to what I said.
    The drive works fine on my WIN98 computer, using the cable inside that >computer.

    Once again (I think - not sure about last time), you think you said
    something you didn't. What you said was, "I confirmed this drive works
    by plugging it into the existing cables connected to the internal floppy
    drive and it works fine." No mention of that being a different computer!

    It DOES NOT work on my XP computer.\

    Two entirely different computers!

    _Now_ you tell us (-:

    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy >>>>listed. It says it's working fine.
    []
    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

    Does sound possible. Borrowing the cable from the computer on which it
    works sounds worth trying. (And possibly the drive too, to check
    combinations of cables and motherboard.)
    []
    Does its light flash - on boot? When you try to access it? At any other >>time?

    No

    Hmm. Are there volts at the power connector (should be, relative to the
    black wires, +5V on the red one and +12V on the yellow, IIRR).
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    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:58:54 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:39:54 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:


    Does it spin on the boot?

    No

    Just for the heck of it, I booted a linux flash drive. I dont see A: or
    B: in there either.

    However, I am now wondering if it could be possible that something in
    the bios needs to be changed? I know I have it set to boot from a flash
    drive FIRST, then the HDD, and lastly the CD player. But since this
    computer has never had a floppy drive, maybe there is some bios setting
    to change?????
    I would have looked already, but I cant remember what key to hit to get
    into the bios. Its a homemade computer so looking that up may be tricky.
    I think I need to start putting labels on every computer saying what key >needs to be pressed to go to the bios.

    You are probably on to something. Go into BIOS setup and be sure the
    FDD adapter is enabled.
    I agree getting into BIOS can be tricky. The manufacturers all have
    their own trick, Google is your friend there. I usually write it on
    top of the power supply with a sharpie when I figure it out. If I
    don't scratch it in the paint with a screwdriver ;-)
    What brand are we talking about?
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    In message <atmm0dp65cfs8gdigschdd5ggd1llpagru@4ax.com>,
    gfretwell@aol.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:58:54 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:
    []
    I would have looked already, but I cant remember what key to hit to get >>into the bios. Its a homemade computer so looking that up may be tricky.
    I think I need to start putting labels on every computer saying what key >>needs to be pressed to go to the bios.

    On most, they tell you on screen during boot, especially desktops rather
    than laptops. (If a CRT monitor, sometimes before the monitor has warmed
    up, though, if it is turned on at the same time as the PC.) Sometimes
    hidden behind a splash screen, though _that_ usually has a "press xx to dismiss splash screen" on it somewhere.

    You are probably on to something. Go into BIOS setup and be sure the
    FDD adapter is enabled.
    []
    Though the lack of any flash from the drive's LED makes me suspect it
    isn't getting power ...
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    james@nospam.com wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:39:54 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:27:43 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected
    the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.

    I am not seeing the A: drive in My Computer.

    I am not sure where else it should show up.

    I confirmed this drive works by plugging it into the existing cables
    connected to the internal floppy drive and it works fine. I read, wrote
    and formatted a floppy.

    In XP, I went to control panel, hardware, and I can see the floppy
    listed. It says it's working fine.

    I went to the command line, and typed A:
    It says "Invalid drive specification".

    The only thing I can think is that maybe that cable is defective???

    5 wire twist or 7 wire twist?

    SEVEN
    (why do they make two different types?)
    The one which works on my Win98 puter is also SEVEN.

    Do you have the power cable plugged it?

    Yes

    Did you boot the machine?

    Yes, several times

    Does it spin on the boot?

    No

    Just for the heck of it, I booted a linux flash drive. I dont see A: or
    B: in there either.

    However, I am now wondering if it could be possible that something in
    the bios needs to be changed? I know I have it set to boot from a flash
    drive FIRST, then the HDD, and lastly the CD player. But since this
    computer has never had a floppy drive, maybe there is some bios setting
    to change?????
    I would have looked already, but I cant remember what key to hit to get
    into the bios. Its a homemade computer so looking that up may be tricky.
    I think I need to start putting labels on every computer saying what key needs to be pressed to go to the bios.


    There is a guide here on the floppy cable design.
    The floppy drives are all (virtually) jumpered as B drives.
    The connector "after the twist" (your config) makes
    that defacto B drive, an A-drive. So the one on the
    end is A.

    http://www.pcguide.com/ref/fdd/confCable-c.html

    Now, what if your drive was so old, it actually had
    a jumper ? Then the problem might be that your drive
    simply isn't being selected at the moment.

    The twisted part, consists of four active signals.
    Two for each drive. The twist swaps the signals, so
    that one connector can have an A personality and the
    other a B personality. (Just like a CS Cable Select method.)

    The scheme described, works without problem if
    all the drives are internally jumpered as B.
    My spare drive here, there isn't any jumper position
    on it, just the data cable and four pin power.
    And there's nothing in the labeling to suggest
    B-jumpering (which becomes A for the connector
    after the twist).

    That doesn't explain though, why you have
    one equipment configuration that works. Which
    suggests a BIOS problem.

    I don't think your machine isn't that old, because it
    does have one IDE and two SATA.

    "ALIVE6100 VSTA [S754 AMD]"

    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_GALLERY.aspx?DetailID=847&Cate goryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=24&LanID=0

    IT8715F

    The manual "ALIVE6100%20_VSTA1.0B.pdf" has
    this - a single setting to disable the FDC.
    Enabled is the default. If you can see it
    in Device Manager, then that's probably proof
    enough this is set to Enabled.

    Onboard FDC Controller (Enabled)

    This option enables the onboard floppy disk drive controller.

    To get into the BIOS:

    Press <DEL> to enter SETUP

    which makes it the same as an Asus ? It should
    put that prompt on the first visible screen.

    The manual is from the year 2008, yet there is no mention
    of popup boot. The line below "Press <DEL>..." should
    identify the popup boot key (which gives a one-time boot
    menu for starting the system).

    A picture I can find of a Phoenix BIOS, doesn't show
    a popup boot key choice. Just the <del> one.

    HTH,
    Paul
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    On 14/11/2017 12:27, james@nospam.com wrote:
    I'm not used to having a floppy drive on an XP machine.
    I plugged in a NEW floppy drive, which I just got in the mail. I used
    that twist cable which I mentioned. (twist on drive end), and connected
    the power cable. Everything is plugged in properly.


    Don't waste your time with floppy drives. You can't buy floppies to
    write to so what's the point?

    Haven't you got any USB ports in your machine to attach flash drives or portable drives?





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    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:23:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <atmm0dp65cfs8gdigschdd5ggd1llpagru@4ax.com>,
    gfretwell@aol.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:58:54 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:
    []
    I would have looked already, but I cant remember what key to hit to get >>>into the bios. Its a homemade computer so looking that up may be tricky. >>>I think I need to start putting labels on every computer saying what key >>>needs to be pressed to go to the bios.

    On most, they tell you on screen during boot, especially desktops rather >than laptops. (If a CRT monitor, sometimes before the monitor has warmed
    up, though, if it is turned on at the same time as the PC.) Sometimes
    hidden behind a splash screen, though _that_ usually has a "press xx to >dismiss splash screen" on it somewhere.

    You are probably on to something. Go into BIOS setup and be sure the
    FDD adapter is enabled.
    []
    Though the lack of any flash from the drive's LED makes me suspect it
    isn't getting power ...

    IT WORKS NOW.
    Turns out the bios was set to "NONE' for floppy drives. I changed that,
    and it works. It tried to boot from the floppy in that drive, which just contains a text tile. I had to remove the floppy so XP would load from
    the HDD.

    Thanks for all who helped. Is one of you who made me suspect the bios. I actually did not know floppies could be disabled in the bios. Now I do!

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    james@nospam.com wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:23:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <atmm0dp65cfs8gdigschdd5ggd1llpagru@4ax.com>,
    gfretwell@aol.com writes:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:58:54 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:
    []
    I would have looked already, but I cant remember what key to hit to get >>>into the bios. Its a homemade computer so looking that up may be tricky. >>>I think I need to start putting labels on every computer saying what key >>>needs to be pressed to go to the bios.

    On most, they tell you on screen during boot, especially desktops rather >than laptops. (If a CRT monitor, sometimes before the monitor has warmed >up, though, if it is turned on at the same time as the PC.) Sometimes >hidden behind a splash screen, though _that_ usually has a "press xx to >dismiss splash screen" on it somewhere.

    You are probably on to something. Go into BIOS setup and be sure the
    FDD adapter is enabled.
    []
    Though the lack of any flash from the drive's LED makes me suspect it >isn't getting power ...

    IT WORKS NOW.
    Turns out the bios was set to "NONE' for floppy drives. I changed that,
    and it works. It tried to boot from the floppy in that drive, which just contains a text tile. I had to remove the floppy so XP would load from
    the HDD.

    Thanks for all who helped. Is one of you who made me suspect the bios. I actually did not know floppies could be disabled in the bios. Now I do!

    I think all drives can be disabled in BIOS' CMOS. :)
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