I love Yahtzee! We did the boardgame thing too, it was hard to have my kids turn off their cellphones during family night, they aced like I
just did the mst utmost evil thing in the world! They started out mad,
but got into it after time. I think it was more of a 'giving in' thing, because I wasn't gonna stop! Regards,
KrUpTiOn
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but got into it after time. I think it was more of a 'giving in'
thing,because I wasn't gonna stop! Regards,
KrUpTiOn
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My kids aren't at that age yet.... I am dreading it...
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Those days will be here faster than you think, then you'll miss THESE days! I've shed a few 'dad tears' thinking about the diaper days. I used to hate them so, but I really do miss their stinky butts! :')
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On Apr 26th 1:00 am Chad Adams said...
but got into it after time. I think it was more of a 'giving in'
thing,because I wasn't gonna stop! Regards,
KrUpTiOn
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My kids aren't at that age yet.... I am dreading it...
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Those days will be here faster than you think, then you'll miss THESE days! I've shed a few 'dad tears' thinking about the diaper days. I
used to hate them so, but I really do miss their stinky butts! :')
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Have a new granddaughter here so I am getting to relive some of that.Time
definitely paints things in a much rosier light, that's for sure.
I can't say I miss those days. The important milestones are when they learn to wipe the own orifices. It is great to know your child can go to the toilet, without your assistance. That is the age they can stay.
Charles Stephenson wrote to Dennisk <=-
Re: Re: Dad'ism
By: Dennisk to Charles Stephenson on Wed May 06 2020 09:53 pm
I can't say I miss those days. The important milestones are when they learn to wipe the own orifices. It is great to know your child can go to the toilet, without your assistance. That is the age they can stay.
I thought that the first few years too, then I missed it! I knew the problems my kids would have, I could easily fix while they were in diapers. :(
Now they're out in the same world as me, and that world is turning to crap. All I want to do is protect them!
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I hear you, and I do see your point. The mess in the nappies is far better to deal with than the mess in the real world. That is the hardest part of being a father, having your generation leave a good legacy for the next one. I kind of think that when you become a parent, that is just as much a responsibility of yours, as is feeding them and cleaning them.
Charles Stephenson wrote to Dennisk <=-
On May 11th 8:00 pm Dennisk said...
I hear you, and I do see your point. The mess in the nappies is far better to deal with than the mess in the real world. That is the hardest part of being a father, having your generation leave a good legacy for
the next one. I kind of think that when you become a parent, that is
just as much a responsibility of yours, as is feeding them and cleaning them.
I wish other fathers (all parents) realized this important fact. So
many put the blame on others, what the 'other' generation. It takes a little effort, but OUR generation can make things better for our kids.
Whether we can make a difference or not, I don't know. But we DO have to take responisibility. We can't just limit our responisbility to our own household and job. We all have a responsibility to our community, our neighbourhood, our world, the earth. Just because we have managers and elected officials, it doesn't absolve us of taking some responsibilityand
control.
Charles Stephenson wrote to Dennisk <=-and
Re: Re: Dad'ism
By: Dennisk to Charles Stephenson on Thu May 28 2020 06:41 pm
Whether we can make a difference or not, I don't know. But we DO have to take responisibility. We can't just limit our responisbility to our own household and job. We all have a responsibility to our community, our neighbourhood, our world, the earth. Just because we have managers and elected officials, it doesn't absolve us of taking some responsibility
control.
VERY well said. I couldn't have said it better myself. I personally try
to follow that creed, I won't say I do it often, but I DO, do it. I
need to do more. And then, that's never enough. I used to be active in teen activities, groups and clubs. Its been years though. *I* need to
do more.
toVERY well said. I couldn't have said it better myself. I personally to follow that creed, I won't say I do it often, but I DO, do it. I need to do more. And then, that's never enough. I used to be active teen activities, groups and clubs. Its been years though. *I* need
do more.
It is hard to do, but its good to hear people at least acknowledge it. Often one feels powerless to do the right thing, especially when your
job depends on you acting to the contrary. But even speaking up, or
just letting others know that there is a conflict is much better than nothing.
I quit corporate life for the very reason of most conflicting wtih my policital or social views. I do not mean this maliciously, hoowever if my mom had not passed, I'd still be required to work for corporations. I was blessed with a mom that saved every penny she could her entire life. She never made more than $15 per hour at most, that I recall, but she savedmuch
more then I thought a person could at that type of pay -- especially living in new york.
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I wish I could do the same too. I could change careers, but that would result in a drop in salary that I can't really make work at the moment.
I can't change the company from within, because no matter how much they talk about "values", they are all the same really. In fact, the MORE a company talks about value, the worse it behaves.
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I wish I could do the same too. I could change careers, but that would result in a drop in salary that I can't really make work at the moment.
I can't change the company from within, because no matter how much they talk about "values", they are all the same really. In fact, the MORE a company talks about value, the worse it behaves.
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So funny you brought that up. My first real career was with a retailer within consumer electronics. They were the Nordstrum of electronics if you will. Instead of tile floors, carpet. Very "feel at home" paint colors. We offered every customer a pop or coffee (or bottle of water) when they arrived. We really prided ourselves and consistently
executed their version of "The 10 commandments to customer service." People loved shopping in our stores. We averaged 30,000sqft in size,
and carried everything best buy did, but also the high end shops.. We
had no intent on selling al ot of $50,000 home theatre systems, however
we had a high end movie theatre room set up for people to expeience ... actually had about 4 different type of experience rooms. Most
customers came in wanting the $99 speakers. After experiencing a
$20,000 audio system, then listing to the $99 version, they would typically spend an average of $1500 on at least definitive techology or klipsch speakers. I fell in love with the company and the people I
worked with, however as we grew, profits were needed to sustain the growth, and slowly but inevitably a lot of the "10 commandments" went
away -- the culture collapsed.
After leaving that company, I started working for Sears as a General Manager. I remember them stating over and over again the need to learn things "their way," and about their unique culture of customer service.
It pailed in comparison to where I had previously worked. matter of fact, the company was struggling so much that their expectations of a
well merchandised store was impossible to maintain. I ran a
120,000sqft store that did 30 million per year. We would have ONE employee "approved" by the corporation to merchandise the entire
upstairs apparel area, which on it's own was a good 20-40,000 sqft and heavily shopped.
Moving on to another local company here in Indiana -- rinse and repeat
-- "Must laern our culture," "must learn what we do and how we do it," "must learn our systems," etc... It was ALL the same, but in this case, their culture was a very agressive sales approach like old school car dealerships. Horrible experience, despite the increase in pay.
My final stop was Best Buy. Now this company really wanted me to drink some funky Koolaid -- build relationships, employee moral committies, etc.... It was tailored to 18 years olds with sensitive personalities
that constantly needed pats on the back, and rewarded for simply doing their job. This is when my mom passed and I was able to break free of (circling back to what you're saying ...) corporations.
I think, as I babbled, to your point .. what I found in common with ALL
of them, is that each felt their culture was unique. Despite each
being within the same industry and most using similar systems .. they
each felt that they were so remarkably different that NONE of them were open to a fresh set of eyes who could possibly positivly impact their business. And most important, I've found that the cliche' "that we are
no longer valued employees, just another disposable number," or "cog within a wheel," were all so true and often subtle messages sent to leaders as means of motivation to drive corporate goals.
This is why I prefer small businesses, or interacting with those on
BBS's, that still believe in doing great things, and the value of
people helping them acheive it. Like a small business with the belief they can create a truly unique retail store, beit true or not that they will succeed, the energy and passion behind the hard work to do so is
the only type of company I'd work for again -- otherwords, I'll just
start my own again. More and more people seem to appreciate local and small businesses these days at least where I live. And I guess, how it relates to BBS's, I prefer to discuss "how to gain users" then to think
of them as nothing more than "museums" and "archives in history"
If you like the people you work with, and the work is fun, I imagine
its worth staying as in my eperience, that experience is usually not recreated again when a job change is made within the same field. Most
of the time. Not from a corporate culture prospective.
Now .. .the owning a business thing has significant advantages, mostly flexibility of time and more time working from home in the presence of family. However, I learned over the last 7 years, it takes A LOT of business to make a decent personal income, as a result of the business expenses that become necessarry to meet demand if successful in the communities eye.
It is hard to do, but its good to hear people at least acknowledge it. Often one feels powerless to do the right thing, especially when your job depends on you acting to the contrary. But even speaking up, or just letting others know that there is a conflict is much better than nothing.
The company I work for is seeking a temp, and the temp is having to go through three interviews to ensure they fit the "company culture". I think people that go into HR, or offer such services over sell the important of culture, because they don't have much else to offer. They convince companies that it makes or breaks them, but that is not true.
I have worked in companies with a bad culture, and it was due to bad managers, NOT who you hire. The best place I worked for was the best simply because I got on well with the people I worked with, and we took
it upon ourselves to make the workplace interesting. No programs from
HR needed. No need for centrally dictated language guides or any of
that rubbish. I really don't think that these attempts by companies to shape a 'culture' have any real effect at all, and certainly, selecting people for 'cultural fit' is just discrimination for no reason.
Whenever I reflect on the change in college culture over the years, and how it's translated into political culture/desired laws and social
justice initiatives .. I seem to recall it falling inline with the evolution of HR departments within corporations. My "Conspiracy
theory" I like to throw out at the dinner table whenever a relative
won't shut up about politics is "The cause is human resources." Albeit I'm kidding .. "culture and diversity training" are just fancy words
for "Reduce liabity of fines, penalties, and lawsuits." In America, as I'm sure true anywhere, it's cheaper to settle a false claim of
wrongful termination (averaging $10,000 per settlement,) then it is to
go to trial. There are quite a few opportunistic people out there that have created a culture within the workforce that supresses us from
being human - from being ourselves - without fear of being fired and or wrongly accused of having offended another. Human Resources used to simply be recruiting, payroll, and seperate department managers who
dealt with employee complaints. Whatever year most companies began consolidating it into a singular department, is the time since, I have
not enjoyed working for corporations. My "Conspiracy theory" is that it's also cheaper for corporations to pay off politicians to pursue agendas that reduce liability for said corporations. Therefore the
push for education and law to practice supression of our rights to
freedom of speech. Not to mention the confusion corporations create -- what you can't say at work without being fired for, you freely can
outside of work -- is not nearly as definitive of a line as it once
was. With social media these days, one who is freely expressing their legal rights, can lose their job for what they posted on their off
time, or not aquire a job to begin with. America is so divided left versus right, most corporations, the media, and politicians, leaning
left, pampering to a generation of youth who are overly entitled, that
if one does lean more right (like I do,) said invidivuals are at a disadvantage in aquiring a job and or within the work force. I hope a
day exists the government realizes this invasive right to privacy, and discrimiation corporations are emposing, and draws fine line relations restricting companies from snooping facebook accounts.
I'm somewhat off topic, however my point I guess, is that I'm finding a lot of people attempting to start their own businesses as a result of
the "culture" that these companies are so "proud of."
I love the word rubbish ... we don't use that often in the states! So true, so true ... I remember when HR started creating sexual harrasment videos. It was always some old white guy making ridiculous passes at a college aged girl. The actors and examples were ubsurd. 99% of those
who sign up to work for an organization do so with the positive intent
to be a good employee, to do be ethical, and to strive to do our best daily. I don't know ANYONE who goes into work every day striving to do
a bad job, or use words to intentionally offend someone, etc.. the 1%
who do have made working for corporations borderline hostile. I can't imagine the verbage "rubbish" guides being trained on and written into handbooks in 2020 with the evolution of gender identification, pronoun usage, and sexuality identification. Not to mention this ridiculous personality profile people are taking and adding theirs to profiles and
or resumes. Exactly how much does a company need to know about my personal life prior to hiring me?
It is hard to do, but its good to hear people at least acknowledge it. Often one feels powerless to do the right thing, especially when your job depends on you acting to the contrary. But even speaking up, or just letting others know that there is a conflict is much better than nothing.
Those days will be here faster than you think, then you'll miss THESE days! I've shed a few 'dad tears' thinking about the diaper days. I used
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