• Banana Ketchup

    From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to All on Sun Feb 4 11:53:40 2024
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    Title: Banana Ketchup
    Categories: Condiments, Filipino
    Yield: 375 Ml

    2 tb Annatto oil
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 tb Tomato paste
    2 lg Ripe bananas (350 g total);
    -mashed
    1/2 c Cider vinegar (125 ml)
    1/4 c Water (65 ml)
    2 tb Brown sugar; plus more to
    -taste
    1/2 ts Freshly ground black pepper
    1/8 ts Ground cloves
    1 pn Salt
    1 ts Soy sauce
    1 Bay leaf

    Preparation time: 10 minutes Cooking time: 45 minutes

    Heat the oil in a medium saucepan over medium heat.

    Add the onion and cook until soft and translucent, 5-7 minutes.

    Add the garlic and tomato paste and stir to combine, cooking for 2-3
    minutes until the tomato paste breaks down and melts into the onion
    and garlic.

    Place the mashed banana into the pan and stir until they pick up a
    reddish-orange hue from the annatto oil and tomato paste.

    Pour in the vinegar and water, stirring to scrape up any browned bits
    from the bottom of the pan.

    Add the brown sugar, black pepper, ground clove, salt, and soy sauce,
    and stir to combine. Drop the bay leaf into the pan and bring the
    mixture to a boil. Reduce heat to low and then simmer, partially
    covered, for 20-30 minutes. Remove from heat and discard the bay leaf.

    Place the banana mixture into the carafe of a blender and puree until
    smooth. If the banana ketchup is too thick, it can be thinned out with
    additional water. Taste the ketchup for seasoning and add more sugar
    if a sweeter ketchup is desired.

    Store the banana ketchup in an airtight container in the refrigerator
    for 2-3 weeks.

    For a spicier version, add 1-2 chopped Thai chili peppers and saute
    along with the onion and garlic. Continue with the rest of the recipe
    as written.

    Recipe by The Adobo Road Cookbook by Marvin Gapultos, 2013

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 5 06:54:36 2024
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    Title: Banana Ketchup
    Categories: Condiments, Filipino
    Yield: 375 Ml

    If I ate that I'd turn into a giant, itchy, hive. 'Nann ers are one of
    the two things to which I have a known allergy.

    Here's my recipe for ho-made ketchup:

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    Title: Homemade Ketchup *
    Categories: Condiments, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 3 Cups

    12 oz Tomato paste
    2 tb Dark brown sugar
    1/2 ts Dry ground mustard
    1/2 ts Kosher salt
    1/8 ts Ground allspice
    1/8 ts Cayenne pepper; or more
    1/8 ts Ground cloves
    1/8 ts Ground turmeric
    1/4 c Cider vinegar
    2/3 c (to 1 c) water; or more

    * using Store-Bought ingredients

    Measure and add all of the ingredients into a large
    mixing bowl.

    Use a whisk and stir until the sugar is completely
    dissolved.

    Store in an airtight container and refrigerate
    overnight for the flavors to develop.

    This homemade ketchup recipe should last for up 3
    weeks in the fridge.

    UDD NOTE: Last batch I made I added 25% (by volume) of
    Huy Fong Sriracha to the mix for a nicely "zippy" treat.
    Use more (or less) of the Rooster Sauce to your own taste.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.simplyscratch.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 5 12:17:42 2024
    Re: Re: Banana Ketchup
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 05 2024 06:54:36

    If I ate that I'd turn into a giant, itchy, hive. 'Nann ers are one of
    the two things to which I have a known allergy.

    Out of curiosity, how do you do with avocados and kiwi?

    Here's my recipe for ho-made ketchup:

    Thanks! Here's a green tomato ketchup recipe:

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    Title: Green Tomato Catsup
    Categories: Canning, Condiments, Vegetables, Chilies
    Yield: 1 batch

    1 Bushel green tomatoes
    1 Head of cabbage
    24 Apples
    12 Sweet peppers
    8 md Onions
    12 Hot peppers; more or less
    1 ga Vinegar
    Pickling spices
    4 lb Sugar
    Salt

    Grind the vegetables and apples together; mix thoroughly.

    Combine the vinegar, pickling spices, sugar and salt to taste. Heat
    thoroughly and pour over the vegetable mixture. Stir and heat,
    stirring to keep from sticking. Boil slowly for about 10 minutes.
    Put in sterilized jars and seal.

    Recipe from Louise Rogers in "LaRue County Kitchens"
    Compiled by Hodgenville Womans Club, Hodgenville, KY, 1976.
    Posted by Cathy Harned.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 6 05:53:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If I ate that I'd turn into a giant, itchy, hive. 'Nann ers are
    one of the two things to which I have a known allergy.

    Out of curiosity, how do you do with avocados and kiwi?

    Avocadoes are a regular thing around here. The Chinese gooseberries not
    so much.

    Here's my recipe for ho-made ketchup:

    Thanks! Here's a green tomato ketchup recipe:

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    Title: Green Tomato Catsup
    Categories: Canning, Condiments, Vegetables, Chilies
    Yield: 1 batch

    Never tried green ketcup.

    Recipe from Louise Rogers in "LaRue County Kitchens"
    Compiled by Hodgenville Womans Club, Hodgenville, KY, 1976.

    I'm surprised there was no bourbon in that recipe Hodgenville, besides
    being the birthplace of Abe Lincoln (my town's most famous resident)
    is slap in the misdt of bourbon country.

    Here's one of te things I do with avocadoes ....

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    Title: Black Bean & Corn Salsa
    Categories: Salsa, Chilies, Citrus, Beans, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 c Fresh corn kernels *
    15 oz Can black beans; rinsed,
    - drained
    15 oz Can diced tomatoes w/chilies
    1 md Bell pepper; diced fine
    1 md Onion; diced fine
    3 (to 4)jalapeno &/or serrano
    - chilies; seeded, fine
    - diced
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies;
    - undrained
    2 cl Garlic; diced fine
    1 ts (to 1/2 tb) ground cumin
    8 oz Can plain tomato sauce
    +=OR=+
    8 oz Can El Pato tomato sauce
    +=OR=+
    8 oz Can Snap-E-Tom tomato sauce
    1/2 Avocado; peeled, pitted,
    - diced 3/16"
    2 Limes; juiced
    1/2 bn Fresh cilantro; chopped
    Salt & Pepper

    Cook corn in a small amount of boiling water for 4 minutes
    or until crisp-tender; drain and cool. Combine corn and
    remaining ingredients.

    Makes 4 cups of Pico de Gallo.

    * 1 1/2 cups frozen corn niblets, or a 14 1/2 oz can of
    Green Giant Niblets or Mexi-Corn may be substituted.

    I've won prizes at several chilli cook-offs with this
    recipe.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 6 14:38:35 2024
    Re: Re: Banana Ketchup
    By: Ben Collver to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 05 2024 12:17 pm

    Re: Re: Banana Ketchup
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 05 2024 06:54:36

    If I ate that I'd turn into a giant, itchy, hive. 'Nann ers are one of the two things to which I have a known allergy.

    Out of curiosity, how do you do with avocados and kiwi?

    Here's my recipe for ho-made ketchup:

    Thanks! Here's a green tomato ketchup recipe:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Green Tomato Catsup
    Categories: Canning, Condiments, Vegetables, Chilies
    Yield: 1 batch

    1 Bushel green tomatoes
    1 Head of cabbage
    24 Apples
    12 Sweet peppers
    8 md Onions
    12 Hot peppers; more or less
    1 ga Vinegar
    Pickling spices
    4 lb Sugar
    Salt

    Grind the vegetables and apples together; mix thoroughly.

    Combine the vinegar, pickling spices, sugar and salt to taste. Heat
    thoroughly and pour over the vegetable mixture. Stir and heat,
    stirring to keep from sticking. Boil slowly for about 10 minutes.
    Put in sterilized jars and seal.

    Recipe from Louise Rogers in "LaRue County Kitchens"
    Compiled by Hodgenville Womans Club, Hodgenville, KY, 1976.
    Posted by Cathy Harned.

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    On ketcup, the green tomato is unique! I don't really use ketchup. Don does a bit, so we stock it. When cooking, I use Jufran banana sauce (does not tastelike bananas).

    I got into that when we lived in Japan. You pickup new foods when you live overseas. Ruth picked up a lot of Geaman cookery when she was there for a tour with her husband. He was an E9 when he retired but not sure if he was one yet then. We both did trip reports when we travelled. At that time, Dale sent me daily emails with attached Blue Wave packets on several echos (cooking for sure). I put them on a floppy and used my ancient laptop to reply then emailed them back to Dale who uploaded them for me. All underway of course. In homeport, I used my own BBS to read and reply. Crazy times!

    Not in MM, but here's one common use of the Jufram (Indonesian I think):

    Both a marinade and a cooking sauce:

    4TB Jufran (medium or mild, the hot is too hot)
    4TB Mae Ploy hot/sweet chile sauce
    3TB vinegar (Suukim Maasim, with green chiles floting in it)
    3TB soy sauce

    Mix it and marinade pork loin in it then cook in the marinade. It's best as rare or medium rare as like cooking it further makes that cut tough. Cut across the grain to thinnish strips and serve warm. Should still have streaks of red in center portion. Marinade time varies but try for at least 1 hour for best effect.

    Enjoy!

    xxcarol
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to All on Wed Feb 7 14:17:13 2024
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Feb 7 14:32:37 2024
    When cooking, I use Jufran banana sauce (does not taste like bananas).

    I'll try to keep an eye out for that the next time i go to the Asian
    market. They have a surprisingly wide variety of items.

    At that time, Dale sent me daily emails with attached Blue Wave
    packets on several echos (cooking for sure). I put them on a floppy
    and used my ancient laptop to reply then emailed them back to Dale
    who uploaded them for me.

    Interesting! Fidonet packets over email. :-)

    I listened to a piece about Arabic immigrants who worked for oil drilling efforts off the coast of South America decades ago, i forget whether it
    was in the 80's or 90's. International phone calls were prohibitively expensive, so they would record a cassette tape full of audio and send it
    back home to their family. Their families would respond in kind with
    messages from multiple people on the same tape.

    My family did that with me when i went off to college. I wish i had
    held on to those tapes! I had multiple weather-related data loss
    incidents in my youth.

    Here is another green tomato ketchup recipe just for fun.

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    Title: Green Tomato Ketchup
    Categories: Canadian, French, Condiments
    Yield: 8 Quarts

    10 lb Green tomatoes
    1/2 c Coarse salt
    1 Celery rib
    1 Cabbage
    3 c Vinegar
    3 c Sugar
    1 tb Pepper
    1 tb Clove
    1 tb Cinnamon
    1 tb Allspice
    2 ts Ginger
    1/2 ts Nutmeg

    The night before slice the tomatoes put them in a big bowl, cover
    with the salt, and leave it overnight.

    Next day: Place a cheesecloth in your colander and pour the
    tomatoes in and let them drip for a few hours. Put the tomatoes
    and the other ingredients in one large pot and bring to a low
    boil. If serving fresh then let simmer for an one hour (stir
    often). If jarring then follow the instructions of your sealers
    for pickles.

    NOTE: Don't use aluminum pots or utensils - they react with the
    vinegar and the salt.

    Delicious with Tourtieres.

    Recipe by Suzanne Carriere

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BEN COLLVER on Thu Feb 8 08:46:00 2024
    I listened to a piece about Arabic immigrants who worked for oil drilling efforts off the coast of South America decades ago, i forget whether it
    was in the 80's or 90's. International phone calls were prohibitively expensive, so they would record a cassette tape full of audio and send it back home to their family. Their families would respond in kind with messages from multiple people on the same tape.

    My family did that with me when i went off to college. I wish i had
    held on to those tapes! I had multiple weather-related data loss
    incidents in my youth.

    That is pretty neat, especially when you consider that email was not really
    a public thing back then. Sort of an early form of audio-conferencing. :)

    Mike


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Thu Feb 8 10:33:02 2024
    Re: Re: Banana Ketchup
    By: Mike Powell to BEN COLLVER on Thu Feb 08 2024 08:46:00

    That is pretty neat, especially when you consider that email was not really a public thing back then. Sort of an early form of audio-conferencing. :)

    Yes!

    I enjoy reading about past human ingenuity.

    <opinion>
    I am still a little in awe about UUCP. It was such a powerful adaptation to the constraints of the day, both hardware resources and the cost of phone service. I like the idea of routing BBS or UUCP packets over sneakernet.
    But i guess that is just a fantasy, comparable to the fantasy of building a meaningful web of trust using PGP. The technical capacity is there. The
    area that needs work is social and not technical.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Mike Powell on Thu Feb 8 16:06:25 2024
    Re: Re: Banana Ketchup
    By: Mike Powell to BEN COLLVER on Thu Feb 08 2024 08:46 am

    I listened to a piece about Arabic immigrants who worked for oil drilling efforts off the coast of South America decades ago, i forget whether it was in the 80's or 90's. International phone calls were prohibitively expensive, so they would record a cassette tape full of audio and send it back home to their family. Their families would respond in kind with messages from multiple people on the same tape.

    My family did that with me when i went off to college. I wish i had
    held on to those tapes! I had multiple weather-related data loss incidents in my youth.

    That is pretty neat, especially when you consider that email was not really a public thing back then. Sort of an early form of audio-conferencing. :)

    Mike


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    Don sent me tapes when I was on the Fort Mchenry. It was easier for him and calls home could only happen in port somewhere.

    xxcarol
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