• Spaghetti Squash Casserole

    From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to All on Thu Oct 26 08:03:53 2023
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    Title: Spaghetti Squash Casserole
    Categories: Casseroles
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 Spaghetti squash; (8")
    1 c Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; crushed
    2 md Tomatoes
    1/2 lb Fresh mushrooms; sliced
    1/2 ts Oregano
    Salt & pepper
    1 c Cottage or ricotta cheese
    1 c Mozzarella; grated
    1/4 c Fresh parsley; chopped
    1 ts Basil
    1 ds Thyme
    1 c Fine bread crumbs
    Butter; for saute
    Parmesan; for the top

    Preparation time: 1-1/2 hours

    Also known as "vegetable spaghetti," this summer squash baffles many
    people who grow it or buy it, then take it to their kitchens and
    wonder what to do next. It is not like zucchini, nor is it like
    winter squash. Once baked or boiled, the insides of this strange
    vegetable are strand-like: the size and shape of spaghetti, but with
    a slightly crunchy, delightful texture. The flavor is buttery and
    slightly sweet. You can serve it topped with tomato sauce and cheese,
    as you would regular spaghetti (it isn't starchy!)--or, you can build
    a casserole.

    Preheat oven to 375 F.

    Slice the squash in half lengthwise and scoop out the seeds. Bake it,
    face-down, on a buttered tray at 375 F for about 30 minutes, or until
    easily pierced by a fork. Cool until handleable. Scoop out insides.

    While the squash bakes, saute the onions and garlic with salt,
    pepper, mushrooms, and herbs. When onions are soft, add
    freshly-chopped tomatgoes. Cook until most of the liquid evaporates.

    Combine all ingredients. Pour into buttered 2-quart casserole dish.
    Top with lots of grated parmesan. Bake at 375 F, uncovered, about
    40 minutes.

    Recipe by Moosewood Cookbook

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Fri Oct 27 09:48:39 2023
    Hi Ben,


    Title: Spaghetti Squash Casserole
    Categories: Casseroles
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Years (actually decades) ago I tried making a spaghetti squash stand in
    as regular spaghetti with my usual marinara sauce & meat balls. Steve
    did not enjoy it so I didn't serve it again.

    Fast forward to (IIRC) when we were in GA near the end of Steve's Army
    career. I came across a spaghetti squash recipe in Good Housekeeping,
    decided to give it a try. I've since forgotten the original proportions
    but it calls for olive oil and balsamic vinegar (roughly 2:1
    proportions), grated Peccorino-Romano cheese and pine nuts in addition
    to the squash. Mix it all together, reheat if needed and serve. I've
    done this a number of times and have a squash awaiting to be
    transformed, probably some time next week.




    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Oct 28 11:21:13 2023
    Re: Spaghetti Squash Casserole
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Fri Oct 27 2023 09:48:39

    Years (actually decades) ago I tried making a spaghetti squash stand in
    as regular spaghetti with my usual marinara sauce & meat balls. Steve
    did not enjoy it so I didn't serve it again.

    I remember having similar experiences with other foods. The first time i
    tried to make pizza dough, it was a goopy mess, so i gave up on it for
    years. Then i moved out to the country where there were few good options
    for pizza, and became motivated to make my own. I learned that different
    flour has different absorbency and i cannot simply "follow the recipe."
    I had to learn the optimal dough consistency, and then make adjustments
    to achieve it.

    Fast forward to (IIRC) when we were in GA near the end of Steve's Army career. I came across a spaghetti squash recipe in Good Housekeeping, decided to give it a try. I've since forgotten the original proportions
    to the squash. Mix it all together, reheat if needed and serve. I've
    done this a number of times and have a squash awaiting to be
    transformed, probably some time next week.

    That sounds yummy to me. Once i moved into a place and "inherited" the
    garden planted by the previous renter. They happened to plant several spaghetti squash plants. That fall i ate a lot of spaghetti squash.
    I think my favorite way to eat it was with butter, parmesan, salt, and
    pepper. Basic.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ben Collver on Mon Oct 30 06:43:23 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    That sounds yummy to me. Once i moved into a place and "inherited" the garden planted by the previous renter. They happened to plant several spaghetti squash plants. That fall i ate a lot of spaghetti squash.
    I think my favorite way to eat it was with butter, parmesan, salt, and pepper. Basic.

    It's the one squash Andrea and I don't like. However if I "inherited" a garden full of them I would learn to like them as I'm too cheap to not eat free food. ;)

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sun Oct 29 19:36:19 2023
    Hi Ben,

    Years (actually decades) ago I tried making a spaghetti squash stand in
    as regular spaghetti with my usual marinara sauce & meat balls. Steve
    did not enjoy it so I didn't serve it again.

    I remember having similar experiences with other foods. The first
    time i tried to make pizza dough, it was a goopy mess, so i gave up on
    it for

    Sounds like pizza soup. I dictated my crust recipe to a friend over the
    phone years ago. She heard 3-4 cups of water instead 3/4 so called back
    in a panic. I was able to give her the increased amount of everything
    else to make several crusts (they are freeze-able), saving her supper
    for that night.

    years. Then i moved out to the country where there were few good
    options for pizza, and became motivated to make my own. I learned
    that different flour has different absorbency and i cannot simply
    "follow the recipe." I had to learn the optimal dough consistency, and then make adjustments to achieve it.

    I generally use all whole wheat, hard for breadstuffs like pizza and
    yeast bread, soft for pastry and quick breads. Do have rye flour and
    others on hand but the whole wheat is my go to all purpose.


    Fast forward to (IIRC) when we were in GA near the end of Steve's Army career. I came across a spaghetti squash recipe in Good Housekeeping, decided to give it a try. I've since forgotten the original proportions
    to the squash. Mix it all together, reheat if needed and serve. I've
    done this a number of times and have a squash awaiting to be
    transformed, probably some time next week.

    That sounds yummy to me. Once i moved into a place and "inherited"
    the garden planted by the previous renter. They happened to plant
    several
    spaghetti squash plants. That fall i ate a lot of spaghetti squash.
    I think my favorite way to eat it was with butter, parmesan, salt, and pepper. Basic.

    Nothing wrong with basic, as long as you like it. My parents fed us kids
    a basic pb&j on white bread for years of school lunches--it got old
    during the first year for me and to this day I don't like peanut butter.

    QUICK, BASIC PIZZA CRUST

    2 C flour
    1 TBSP each oil, honey (or sugar) and yeast (or one packet)
    3/4-1 C warm water

    Mix all but water, then add water to make dough. Knead a bit, then set
    aside while fixing toppings. Spread dough into pan, add topping and bake
    at 425-450 for 15-20 minutes (until done). We came across this recipe
    shortly after we were married and it has been our go to recipe for the
    last 45+ years.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 5 19:37:19 2023
    Hi Shawn,


    That sounds yummy to me. Once i moved into a place and "inherited" the garden planted by the previous renter. They happened to plant several spaghetti squash plants. That fall i ate a lot of spaghetti squash.
    I think my favorite way to eat it was with butter, parmesan, salt, and pepper. Basic.

    It's the one squash Andrea and I don't like. However if I "inherited"
    a garden full of them I would learn to like them as I'm too cheap to
    not eat free food. ;)

    Depends on what's being offered. Years ago we were on Food Stamps (even
    tho Steve was working full time, just not at sufficient pay to support a
    wife and 2 kids). It was while the government was doing commodities
    (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to
    get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an
    imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we
    could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give away
    stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve
    enlisted in the Army.

    Due to no fault of mine, I've been off the air for almost a week. Tried fetching mail every day but it didn't "click" until today. We're done travelling for the year with the possible exception of a Thanksgiving
    time trip (weather permitting) to visit Steve's mom.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 6 14:08:26 2023
    Hi Ruth,
    Depends on what's being offered. Years ago we were on Food Stamps (even
    tho Steve was working full time, just not at sufficient pay to support a wife and 2 kids). It was while the government was doing commodities
    (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to
    get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give away stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    Mmm, gummint cheese. I remember that from my childhood in the 80s. My mother cannot stand Velveeta at all due to her mother overusing it during her childhood. My stepfather likes it a lot but it's banned in their household.

    I don't mind it as an ingredient in food but I'm not a fan of eating it right out of the package.

    No recipe since I am using the BBS in local mode and the full-screen editor won't allow me to import files. Gotta fix that.

    -- Sean

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Nov 8 09:51:02 2023
    Hi Sean,

    (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to
    get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give away stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    Mmm, gummint cheese. I remember that from my childhood in the 80s.
    My mother cannot stand Velveeta at all due to her mother overusing it during her
    childhood. My stepfather likes it a lot but it's banned in their household.

    I don't remember my mom buying Velveeta--she would get the kraft
    American singles for sandwiches (basic cheese, just bread & cheese with
    mustard or butter or toasted cheese). For mac & cheese or to go with
    apple pie, she would buy a chunk of cheddar cheese. I don't recall how
    sharp she would go, probably mild or medium, but that cheese was not our
    every day eating cheese. However, Steve and I have bought no Velveeta or American slices in decades. We buy the real thing, with as few
    ingredients as possible. We'll buy as sharp a cheddar as we can find,
    also going for well aged ones if possible.

    I don't mind it as an ingredient in food but I'm not a fan of eating
    it right out of the package.

    We're "mice" when it comes to cheese. (G)

    No recipe since I am using the BBS in local mode and the
    full-screen SD> editor won't allow me to import files. Gotta fix that.

    No problem; I usually don't include one. But, talking about cheese--a
    simple cheese crispy can be made by melting a bit of cheese in a heavy
    pot/pan until it turns brown and the bubbling has stopped. Optionally,
    then you can blot off the excess oil but there's usually not a lot left
    at that point. Enjoy as a snack or crumble into soup, salad, etc. Works
    with a lot of different varieties of cheese.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Nov 8 12:06:20 2023
    Hello Ruth,

    Wednesday November 08 2023 09:51, you wrote to me:

    I don't remember my mom buying Velveeta--she would get the kraft
    American singles for sandwiches (basic cheese, just bread & cheese
    with mustard or butter or toasted cheese). For mac & cheese or to go
    with apple pie, she would buy a chunk of cheddar cheese. I don't
    recall how sharp she would go, probably mild or medium, but that
    cheese was not our every day eating cheese. However, Steve and I have bought no Velveeta or American slices in decades. We buy the real
    thing, with as few ingredients as possible. We'll buy as sharp a
    cheddar as we can find, also going for well aged ones if possible.

    Unfortunately, my budget doesn't allow for the really good stuff (I love extra sharp Cheddar) so for sandwiches, I buy the big block of pre-sliced processed cheese slices at Sam's Club. Usually lasts me a month or more and tastes pretty good.

    We're "mice" when it comes to cheese. (G)

    I am also. My "nom de 'Net" is digimaus so I live up to my moniker.

    No problem; I usually don't include one. But, talking about cheese--a simple cheese crispy can be made by melting a bit of cheese in a heavy pot/pan until it turns brown and the bubbling has stopped. Optionally, then you can blot off the excess oil but there's usually not a lot
    left at that point. Enjoy as a snack or crumble into soup, salad, etc. Works with a lot of different varieties of cheese.

    I bought a brand new Lodge cast iron skillet at one of the Lodge outlet stores in Sevierville. I've already tried it out and I do like to make those crispies using real shredded Cheddar. They pair well with wheat thins!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cheese Souffle
    Categories: Cheese/eggs, Londontowne
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 c Milk
    1/2 t Salt
    1/2 c Cream of Rice
    1 x Grated Parmesan, optional
    1/2 c Mild cheddar, shredded
    3 ea Eggs, separated
    2 T Butter

    Combine milk and salt; scald. Sprinkle in Cream of Rice and cook,
    stirring constantly, for 1 minute. Remove from heat, cover, and let
    stand 4 minutes. Add butter and cheese; stir until melted. Beat egg
    whites until stiff but not dry. Beat egg yolks until lemon colored.
    Gradually blend warm rice mixture into egg yolks. Fold in about 1/3
    of beaten egg whites, then remainder. Pour into an unbuttered, 1-1/2
    qt souffle or baking dish, OR, first lightly butter the souffle dish
    and dust with Parmmesian cheese. Sprinkle top lightly with Parmesan.
    Bake in preheated 325 degree oven until puffed and golden brown,
    about 40 minutes. Serve immediately. Mrs. William W. LaViolette

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Thu Nov 9 14:31:07 2023
    Hi Sean,


    I don't remember my mom buying Velveeta--she would get the kraft
    American singles for sandwiches (basic cheese, just bread & cheese
    with mustard or butter or toasted cheese). For mac & cheese or to go
    with apple pie, she would buy a chunk of cheddar cheese. I don't
    recall how sharp she would go, probably mild or medium, but that
    cheese was not our every day eating cheese. However, Steve and I have bought no Velveeta or American slices in decades. We buy the real
    thing, with as few ingredients as possible. We'll buy as sharp a
    cheddar as we can find, also going for well aged ones if possible.

    Unfortunately, my budget doesn't allow for the really good stuff (I
    love extra sharp Cheddar) so for sandwiches, I buy the big block of pre-sliced processed cheese slices at Sam's Club. Usually lasts me a month or more and tastes pretty good.

    Get as big a chunk of the real thing as you can afford. Experiment with different ones. We took some home made fig preserves out to our
    daughters on this last trip--older daughter put a bit of Camaberet (?)
    on a cracker and then added a dab of the preserves for snacks.
    Absolutely yummy! It can be done with Brie also. For sandwiches I'll
    usually buy (all Wegman's brand) sliced sharp cheddar, Swiss, and
    provelone; usually 2 of the 3 one month, another 2 the next month, etc.
    We also have several Cabot cheddars aging in the fridge--picked them up
    at the Cabot outlet in Waterbury, VT in July.

    We're "mice" when it comes to cheese. (G)

    I am also. My "nom de 'Net" is digimaus so I live up to my moniker.

    Sounds like an apt choice of names.


    No problem; I usually don't include one. But, talking about cheese--a simple cheese crispy can be made by melting a bit of cheese in a heavy pot/pan until it turns brown and the bubbling has stopped. Optionally, then you can blot off the excess oil but there's usually not a lot
    left at that point. Enjoy as a snack or crumble into soup, salad, etc. Works with a lot of different varieties of cheese.

    I bought a brand new Lodge cast iron skillet at one of the Lodge
    outlet stores in Sevierville. I've already tried it out and I do like
    to make those crispies using real shredded Cheddar. They pair well
    with wheat thins!

    I've got several cast iron fry pans--6,9,10 and 12" plus a 5qt dutch
    oven and a few odd pieces--don't know how much is Lodge but I'd like to
    get to the outlet some day. Saw that they sell some pieces at Cracker
    Barrels; we boondock there from time to time in their RV lot. Picked up
    a self cleaning garlic press at the one we stopped at in West Virginia
    on the way home last month.

    Title: Cheese Souffle
    Categories: Cheese/eggs, Londontowne
    Yield: 4 Servings

    My mom would make one of these from time to time--not very often because
    of the fuss it was to make. Her cooking was usually as basic as possible because Dad was a picky eater and feeding 5 kids was a matter of "what's
    the cheapest but easiest and most filling thing on sale?".


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Nov 12 07:56:12 2023
    could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give

    I don't blame you. That's a lot of fake cheese to eat in a short amount
    of time.

    stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    GOod call!

    Due to no fault of mine, I've been off the air for almost a week.
    fetching mail every day but it didn't "click" until today. We're done travelling for the year with the possible exception of a Thanksgiving
    time trip (weather permitting) to visit Steve's mom.

    I've been off a bit too... Due to my wife cleaning up. NO more tables
    left in the apartment. Most furnature is gone. Bookshelves, movies,
    books, video games, all gone. :)

    I think she's getting us ready to move into a RV full time in a few more
    years when she's done school. (Oh she's back in school for another
    medical degree of some kind. Hoping this one will work out.)



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 12 20:03:56 2023
    Hi Shawn,

    could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give

    I don't blame you. That's a lot of fake cheese to eat in a short
    amount of time.

    Especially since our girls were small (toddler and preschooler) at the
    time so didn't eat a lot. Steve and I ate most of it. To this day we
    refer to that kind of cheese as "plastic cheese" because of its
    consistancy.

    stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that
    Steve > enlisted in the Army.

    GOod call!

    Quite so--thought he'd only do 4 years and we'd go back to civilian
    life. Then at about 9.5 years decided to go for 20 and the retirement
    but at about 18.5 the chance to go to Hawaii and a promotion while there
    put retirement at 26 years. Found out after he was well into the
    retirement process he could have stayed in for 3 more years but decided
    to stay with getting out then. Travels because of the Army really
    broaded our horizons--living in various place in the US and Germany
    (also Korea for Steve) introduced us to a lot of new foods and friends,
    some of which still remain a part of our lives.

    Due to no fault of mine, I've been off the air for almost a week. >
    fetching mail every day but it didn't "click" until today. We're done >
    travelling for the year with the possible exception of a Thanksgiving >
    time trip (weather permitting) to visit Steve's mom.

    I've been off a bit too... Due to my wife cleaning up. NO more tables left in the apartment. Most furnature is gone. Bookshelves, movies, books, video games, all gone. :)

    I think she's getting us ready to move into a RV full time in a few
    more years when she's done school. (Oh she's back in school for
    another
    medical degree of some kind. Hoping this one will work out.)

    Still, how do you function without at least one table? We've got several scattered thruout the house--kitchen, living room, computer/ham shack
    room, sewing room............... Probably keeps the excess papers from accumulating tho. (G) At one point Steve was thinking of RVing full time
    but I'm just as glad we're not doing so. Met some folks in TX that are
    doing it but I like having a permanent locaation where I can keep
    projects set if if I want to. I'd also have to give up a lot of my
    kitchen stuff that I've acquired post Army life. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Nov 14 06:18:04 2023
    refer to that kind of cheese as "plastic cheese" because of its
    consistancy.

    That's what we call American as well. It's okay though because there's
    nothing better then plastic cheese for a grill cheese. :)

    Still, how do you function without at least one table? We've got

    It's not easy. Plates on laps etc.

    projects set if if I want to. I'd also have to give up a lot of my
    kitchen stuff that I've acquired post Army life. (G)

    We're a few years away, but with her health it would sure make life
    easier if we could go to some of the warmer staes in the winter.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 20 13:30:17 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    That sounds yummy to me. Once i moved into a place and "inherited" the garden planted by the previous renter. They happened to plant several spaghetti squash plants. That fall i ate a lot of spaghetti squash.
    I think my favorite way to eat it was with butter, parmesan, salt, and pepper. Basic.

    A nice garlic/basil pesto works very well with spaghetti squash just
    like it does with traditional pasta.

    It's the one squash Andrea and I don't like. However if I "inherited"
    a garden full of them I would learn to like them as I'm too cheap to
    not eat free food. ;)

    Depends on what's being offered. Years ago we were on Food Stamps (even tho Steve was working full time, just not at sufficient pay to support
    a wife and 2 kids). It was while the government was doing commodities (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give
    away stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    Back when they were doing the commodities I was partners on a small town weakly called "Rochester & Lake Springfield Herald". It was a rather up
    market town and none of the upscale dandies wanted to be seen accepting
    the commodities -- even, nay, especially if they were elegible. So the
    deputy Mayor, who was running the give-away, talked Earl and I into taking
    a 4X batch. Each. That was 60# of really good mild Cheddar (American)
    cheese. As well as 4 big boxes of dried powdered milk and 4 bags of long
    grain white rice.

    Other areas of the country got the Velveeta-like cheezoid stuff. Ours, according to the USDA establishment number was made by Meister Cheese in Wisconsin.

    Due to no fault of mine, I've been off the air for almost a week. Tried fetching mail every day but it didn't "click" until today. We're done travelling for the year with the possible exception of a Thanksgiving
    time trip (weather permitting) to visit Steve's mom.

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to go
    home and back to work.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Green Chilies & Rice
    Categories: Chilies, Dairy, Rice, Cheese
    Yield: 10 Servings

    4 c Rice; cooked
    1 1/2 pt Dairy sour cream
    8 oz Can chopped green chilies
    Salt & pepper
    1/2 lb Monterey jack; sliced
    1/2 c Cheddar; shredded

    Courtesy: Junior League of Kalamazoo, Michigan

    In a large casserole dish, layer rice, sour cream, chilies,
    salt, pepper, and Monterey Jack. Repeat layers 2 more times.
    Omit Monterey Jack from top layer.

    Bake at 350ºF/175ºC for 20 to 25 mins.

    Sprinkle cheddar cheese on top for the last 5 minutes of
    baking.

    From the book "I've Got A Cook In Kalamazoo"

    Submitted by Barbara Zack

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Tue Nov 21 11:11:17 2023
    Re: Commodity cheese wase: Spaghetti Squash Casserole
    By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 20 2023 13:30:17

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to go home and back to work.

    Good to hear from you! Are you already home? I am planning to make a
    recipe you posted a while back, Sweet Potato Cinnamon Bread from
    Taste of Home.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Wed Nov 22 17:00:00 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready
    to go home and back to work.

    Good to hear from you! Are you already home? I am planning to make a recipe you posted a while back, Sweet Potato Cinnamon Bread from
    Taste of Home.

    Got my parole this afternoon. Gonna feel good sleeing in my own bed.
    Heck, even going back to work next week is something I look forward to.

    IIRC that bread recipe is a multiple loaf dandy that my mental taster
    says, "Let's do this, Daddy".

    It just ceiwa nout for icing. Here are a couple icing recipes with which
    I've had good success. Ignore the "cookies" direcions. The icing doesn't
    care what it's enhancing. Although a batch of the Chile Icing is gouing
    to get used on my annual Holiday Season sugar cookies.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Royal Icing
    Categories: Five, Desserts
    Yield: 1 batch

    3 1/4 c (1 lb/454 g) confectioners'
    - sugar
    3 lg Egg whites
    1/2 ts Cream of tartar
    pn Salt
    Food coloring; as needed

    In the bowl of an electric mixer, combine the sugar, egg
    whites, cream of tartar and salt. Whisk until stiff and
    glossy.

    To tint the frosting, divide into small bowls. Cover the
    ones you aren't using with plastic wrap; the frosting
    dries out very quickly. Use a rubber spatula to stir in
    desired food coloring. Though not necessary, it makes
    life easier if you make two versions of each color - one
    that is thick to pipe the outline on the cookie, and one
    that is thinned out slightly with a little water to
    flood the outline.

    Transfer frosting to piping bags fitted with very small
    round tips (sizes 1 to 2 work best). Pipe frosting onto
    cooled cookies and let set, at least 2 hours. Or use a
    pastry of paint brush to decorate cookies with the
    frosting.

    By: Melissa Clark

    Yield: Enough for about 4 dozen cookies

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chile Icing
    Categories: Five, Cookies, Desserts, Chilies
    Yield: 24 Servings

    2 c Powdered sugar
    4 ts Milk or half & half
    4 ts Light Karo corn syrup
    1/4 ts Almond extract
    1 tb (level) ground chile
    Food colouring (opt)

    In a bowl, stir together confectioners' sugar and milk
    until smooth. Beat in corn syrup, almond extract and
    ground chile * until icing is smooth and glossy. If
    icing is too thick, add more corn syrup.

    * use ground Anaheim/NuMex chilies for green icing and
    ground cayenne/tabasco/bird chilies for red icing. DO
    NOT overload with chile - you want the icing to be
    noticably "chile" but not light anyone up.

    Add food colouring to desired shade if needed. Spread
    over cookies, or paint on with a brush.

    As an option make some icing without ground chile or
    food colouring to pipe designs onto the green or red
    icing. Be creative.

    Sprinkling red or green sugar crystals on the cookies
    after icing them is also a nice optional touch.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 22 10:41:22 2023
    Hi Dave,

    garden planted by the previous renter. They happened to plant several spaghetti squash plants. That fall i ate a lot of spaghetti squash.
    I think my favorite way to eat it was with butter, parmesan, salt, and pepper. Basic.

    A nice garlic/basil pesto works very well with spaghetti squash just
    like it does with traditional pasta.

    It's the one squash Andrea and I don't like. However if I "inherited"
    a garden full of them I would learn to like them as I'm too cheap to
    not eat free food. ;)

    I understand; I think we would have tried fixing it several different
    ways, had I known. This was well before the internet so I was quite
    limited in resources (none of my cook books had anything about spaghetti squash).


    Depends on what's being offered. Years ago we were on Food Stamps (even tho Steve was working full time, just not at sufficient pay to support
    a wife and 2 kids). It was while the government was doing commodities (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give
    away stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    Back when they were doing the commodities I was partners on a small
    town weakly called "Rochester & Lake Springfield Herald". It was a
    deputy Mayor, who was running the give-away, talked Earl and I into
    taking a 4X batch. Each. That was 60# of really good mild Cheddar (American)
    cheese. As well as 4 big boxes of dried powdered milk and 4 bags of
    long grain white rice.

    The powdered milk would have been quite useful, as well as the American
    cheese. At that point we were using brown rice so I may/may not have
    taken the white rice, tho I could have always used as a fill for some of
    my sewing projects. (G)

    Other areas of the country got the Velveeta-like cheezoid stuff.
    Ours, DD> according to the USDA establishment number was made by
    Meister Cheese DD> in Wisconsin.

    I'd read about the give away being real cheddar cheese so was
    anticipating that was what we would be given. Shock and surprise to get
    the substitute. That was the one and only time we got anything from the
    give away; Steve joined the Army not long afterwards. A PFC
    pay/allowances was a good bit more than what he was making at his
    civilian job tho we still qualified for the food stamps. I just
    tightened the budget again and we did without them. What helped in the
    first few months was that his language school was in Monterey, CA. We
    lived in Pacific Grove; there were some reasonably priced produce
    markets in town. I could fill a grocery sack full of assorted vegetables
    and carry a 5# bag of potatoes on the side for well under $10.--enought
    to feed us for a couple of weeks or more, depending on how I used them.
    The girls were 5 and 3 at the time and enjoyed the fresh produce.

    Due to no fault of mine, I've been off the air for almost a week.
    Tried RH> fetching mail every day but it didn't "click" until today.
    We're done RH> travelling for the year with the possible exception of a
    Thanksgiving RH> time trip (weather permitting) to visit Steve's mom.

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to
    go home and back to work.

    Doesn't sound like fun but at least you're still on this side of the
    dirt. (G) We are away from home but will be back in a few days. Later
    I've got to get a few things for our contribution to the feast.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Thu Nov 23 10:34:57 2023
    Re: Bread was: Commodity chee
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Wed Nov 22 2023 17:00:00

    Got my parole this afternoon. Gonna feel good sleeing in my own bed.
    Heck, even going back to work next week is something I look forward to.

    Hooray! Welcome home! What do you do for work?

    IIRC that bread recipe is a multiple loaf dandy that my mental taster
    says, "Let's do this, Daddy".

    It turned out a lot like a coffee cake.

    Decreased sugar to less than half as much.

    Increased the sweet potato by a cup so i could fully use 2 cans of
    sweet potato puree.

    Because of the extra liquid from the sweet potatoes, i omitted the milk
    and added powdered milk to the flour mix. I also added a little extra vegetable oil.

    Because i was out of raisins, i minced a couple of frost-sweetened,
    home-grown apples and folded them into the batter along with chopped, home-grown walnuts.

    I guess i took the scenic route, but the results are good. :-)
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ben Collver on Fri Nov 24 05:54:52 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Got my parole this afternoon. Gonna feel good sleeing in my own bed.
    Heck, even going back to work next week is something I look forward to.

    Hooray! Welcome home! What do you do for work?

    Work at AutoZone - 18 years and going for 20 at which time I'll be 83
    and ready to kick back. Bv)=

    IIRC that bread recipe is a multiple loaf dandy that my mental taster says, "Let's do this, Daddy".

    It turned out a lot like a coffee cake.

    Nothing wrong with that.

    Decreased sugar to less than half as much.

    I probably would have used Splenda either 100% or just volume for volume
    for the missing sugar.

    Increased the sweet potato by a cup so i could fully use 2 cans of
    sweet potato puree.

    Because of the extra liquid from the sweet potatoes, i omitted the milk and added powdered milk to the flour mix. I also added a little extra vegetable oil.

    Because i was out of raisins, i minced a couple of frost-sweetened, home-grown apples and folded them into the batter along with chopped, home-grown walnuts.

    Might have considered Craisins ... one of my favourite substitutes for
    raisins.

    I guess i took the scenic route, but the results are good. :-)

    So long as you were happy with it is the important part.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sour-Cream Coffee Cake
    Categories: Snacks, Desserts, Cakes, Dairy
    Yield: 12 servings

    MMMMM----------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    1/2 c (113 g) unsalted butter;
    - room temp
    1 1/4 c (260 g) sugar
    2 lg Eggs
    1 1/2 c (188 g) flour
    1 1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Baking soda
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 1/4 c (300 g) sour cream
    1 ts Vanilla

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    1/2 c (104 g) sugar
    2 ts All-purpose flour
    1 tb Cinnamon
    1/3 c (70 g) chopped pecans or
    - walnuts

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Generously butter a 9" by 13" baking pan. Cream butter
    and sugar together until light and fluffy. Add eggs one
    at a time, beating well after each addition.

    In a separate bowl, sift flour with baking powder,
    baking soda and salt. With the mixer on low speed, add
    the flour mixture to the butter mixture alternately with
    sour cream and vanilla until just combined. Do not
    overmix. Pour batter into prepared baking pan.

    MAKE THE TOPPING: Combine sugar, cinnamon, flour and
    nuts in a small bowl and mix well.

    Sprinkle the topping evenly over the cake and bake 30 to
    35 minutes, or until a cake tester comes out clean.
    Cool, cut into pieces and serve.

    By: Robert Farrar Capon

    Yield: About 12 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Nov 24 05:58:38 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Depends on what's being offered. Years ago we were on Food Stamps (even tho Steve was working full time, just not at sufficient pay to support
    a wife and 2 kids). It was while the government was doing commodities (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give
    away stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    There are some things that Velveeta works well in.

    Back when they were doing the commodities I was partners on a small
    town weakly called "Rochester & Lake Springfield Herald". It was a
    deputy Mayor, who was running the give-away, talked Earl and I into
    taking a 4X batch. Each. That was 60# of really good mild Cheddar (American) cheese. As well as 4 big boxes of dried powdered milk and
    4 bags of long grain white rice.

    The powdered milk would have been quite useful, as well as the American cheese. At that point we were using brown rice so I may/may not have
    taken the white rice, tho I could have always used as a fill for some
    of my sewing projects. (G)

    Given the price I used the white rice. I've done brown rice a few times,
    but apparently I don't "get it". I don't taste a difference in the flavour
    like I can with white vs whole wheat flours.

    Other areas of the country got the Velveeta-like cheezoid stuff. Ours, according to the USDA establishment number was made by Meister Cheese
    in Wisconsin.

    I'd read about the give away being real cheddar cheese so was
    anticipating that was what we would be given. Shock and surprise to get the substitute. That was the one and only time we got anything from the give away; Steve joined the Army not long afterwards. A PFC
    pay/allowances was a good bit more than what he was making at his
    civilian job tho we still qualified for the food stamps. I just
    tightened the budget again and we did without them. What helped in the first few months was that his language school was in Monterey, CA. We lived in Pacific Grove; there were some reasonably priced produce
    markets in town. I could fill a grocery sack full of assorted
    vegetables and carry a 5# bag of potatoes on the side for well under $10.--enought to feed us for a couple of weeks or more, depending on
    how I used them. The girls were 5 and 3 at the time and enjoyed the
    fresh produce.

    I only did food stamps once. And it was long enough ago that they were
    using real paper "stamps". I used them to buy staples then used the $$$
    that I would have spent on that groceries for "off list" stuff like soda
    pop and other ineligible things that made life worth living. Bv)=

    Due to no fault of mine, I've been off the air for almost a week.
    Tried fetching mail every day but it didn't "click" until today.
    We're done travelling for the year with the possible exception of a Thanksgiving time trip (weather permitting) to visit Steve's mom.

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to
    go home and back to work.

    Doesn't sound like fun but at least you're still on this side of the
    dirt. (G) We are away from home but will be back in a few days. Later
    I've got to get a few things for our contribution to the feast.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve related.
    I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch and jump and
    making it really hard to type and darned near impossible to text. My head
    was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with some
    vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Spicy Chilli Dip
    Categories: Cheese, Appetizers, Dips, Beef, Chilies
    Yield: 8 Servings

    12 oz Lean ground beef
    1 oz Env taco seasoning mix, (any
    - brand)
    1 tb Trappey's Red Devil Sauce
    1 sm Onion; chopped fine
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies;
    - drained
    1 sm Tomato; chopped
    8 oz Cheese Whiz or Velveeta
    4 oz Sour Cream

    Cook meat and chopped onion in a bowl in the microwave
    with a covering piece of waxed paper on it. Cook on
    high 2-3 minutes. Check and stir. Cook longer if
    needed. Remove hamburg and onion from bowl and save
    off fat for other uses.

    Prepare taco mix with the microwave instructions that
    are on the package, using only 1/4 cup water. Stir in
    the chilies and tomato. Stir in cheese and sour cream.

    Serve hot with tortilla chips or Fritoes.

    If you want to make it pretty garnish the top w/chopped
    green onion or chive tops.

    This is better'n anything store-bought sez Uncle Dirty
    Dave. Try it, you'll like it too.

    Typed and MM format by Dave Drum - 06 May 98

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Nov 24 10:33:30 2023
    Hi Dave,

    (eggs, cheese, milk) give aways so we were informed we were entitled to get cheese one month. I went for it--turned out to be 15 pounds of an imitation Velveeta. Couldn't freeze it so we used it up as fast as we could. We'd bought Velveeta a couple times when we were first married
    but hadn't bought it in years and haven't bought any since the give
    away stuff was used up. I don't think it was too long after that that Steve enlisted in the Army.

    There are some things that Velveeta works well in.

    So I've heard, but not tried. I've stuck with real cheese since then.

    deputy Mayor, who was running the give-away, talked Earl and I into
    taking a 4X batch. Each. That was 60# of really good mild Cheddar (American) cheese. As well as 4 big boxes of dried powdered milk and
    4 bags of long grain white rice.

    The powdered milk would have been quite useful, as well as the American cheese. At that point we were using brown rice so I may/may not have
    taken the white rice, tho I could have always used as a fill for some
    of my sewing projects. (G)

    Given the price I used the white rice. I've done brown rice a few
    times, but apparently I don't "get it". I don't taste a difference in
    the flavour like I can with white vs whole wheat flours.

    There is a definate taste difference. Our favorite Chinese take out
    place usually has both available but the times he hasn't, and we've
    gotten the white rice, the food just isn't the same. If we're eating out
    and have no choice but to get white rice, I'll eat a minimal amount of
    it but leave most of it behind. Brown rice is lower on the glycemic
    index list as I recall, making it better for diabetics.


    give away; Steve joined the Army not long afterwards. A PFC
    pay/allowances was a good bit more than what he was making at his
    civilian job tho we still qualified for the food stamps. I just
    tightened the budget again and we did without them. What helped in the first few months was that his language school was in Monterey, CA. We lived in Pacific Grove; there were some reasonably priced produce
    markets in town. I could fill a grocery sack full of assorted
    vegetables and carry a 5# bag of potatoes on the side for well under $10.--enought to feed us for a couple of weeks or more, depending on
    how I used them. The girls were 5 and 3 at the time and enjoyed the
    fresh produce.

    I only did food stamps once. And it was long enough ago that they
    were using real paper "stamps". I used them to buy staples then used

    Same with us; we'd used them once before when Steve lost his job thanks
    to Carter's raising the taxes on luxury goods. At the time he was
    building fiberglass cabin cruisers. Only job he could get was the one
    that payed below subsistance level and was 30 miles (vs about 5) away.


    the $$$ that I would have spent on that groceries for "off list"
    stuff like soda pop and other ineligible things that made life worth living. Bv)=

    At that time cash only went for more basics. Diapers were cloth and
    washed; disposables were a luxury for travel. Interestingly when our
    girls had their kids, older daughter used disposables, younger used
    cloth.

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to
    go home and back to work.

    Doesn't sound like fun but at least you're still on this side of the
    dirt. (G) We are away from home but will be back in a few days. Later
    I've got to get a few things for our contribution to the feast.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new
    prescriptions for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't
    need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    We got together with Steve's younger sister and family plus his mom and
    a niece's boyfriend for dinner yesterday. His older brother & wife
    joined us for dessert. Steve made a basic cranberry sauce; I added my grandmother's German style green beans to the meal (a lot of oranges so
    the green was a nice color contrast).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Sat Nov 25 07:49:03 2023
    I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch and jump
    making it really hard to type and darned near impossible to text. My
    was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with
    vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    That's not good... Glad you're on the mend though Dave.

    Shawn
    |09S|11hawn


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sat Nov 25 13:45:33 2023
    Hello Dave,

    Friday November 24 2023 05:58, you wrote to Ruth Haffly:

    I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch and jump
    and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible to text.
    My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through
    with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    I'm glad you came through that okay. That sounds rather frightening to deal while in the middle of the "attack". My first feart attack changes the vision in my left eye from 20/20 to 20/25. I was told that is common with heart attacks.

    I spent eight hours at the emergency room yesterday aferternoon and evening. I thought what I thought was a UTI ... wasn't. Turns out I have a lot of blood in my urine and the ER ran every blood test and even a CT scan. They couldn't figure out what the problem was. I went home with a referral to urologu and a prescription for a dye that also works as a painkiller for the urinary tract.

    Evidently my kidneys are 100% functional but were/are overloaded from the extra blood they're processing.

    Out of all the things I've been through, the kidneys worry me the most.

    -- Sean

    ... You learn something useless every day.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Nov 25 14:02:30 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch and jump
    making it really hard to type and darned near impossible to text. My
    was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with
    vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    That's not good... Glad you're on the mend though Dave.

    I wish I knew what caused that episode. They fised several problems I
    was having ... like a persistent cough. And those random twitches. But
    nobody on your care teamtells you nothing except to say "Doctor will
    explain that." Which seldom happens.

    But, heck, I'm 81 years old and have outlived most of my enemies. Just
    that my body has become high maintenance. I'm gonna be on oxygen forever
    more --- Thank You Very Much R. J. Reynolds and your Camel cigarettes
    @ two packs per day for 45 years,

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cameltoe
    Categories: Five, Booze, Beverage, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Guzzle

    1 oz Cream
    2 oz Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum
    5 oz Coca Cola

    Pour the Captain Morgan over a glass of ice, add coke
    first and then the cream. Give a light stir and enjoy!!!

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.drinksecret.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Nov 25 15:26:08 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    There are some things that Velveeta works well in.

    So I've heard, but not tried. I've stuck with real cheese since then.

    See the attached recipe for a good use I've found for it. My house mate's youngest boy is eligible for food stamps and associated give-aways and he sometimes brings his dad a care package. Some of which goes to the pooches
    But, they won't touch the Velveeta (smart dogs) so I did a "take" on one
    of my favourite soups.

    deputy Mayor, who was running the give-away, talked Earl and I into
    taking a 4X batch. Each. That was 60# of really good mild Cheddar (American) cheese. As well as 4 big boxes of dried powdered milk and
    4 bags of long grain white rice.

    The powdered milk would have been quite useful, as well as the American cheese. At that point we were using brown rice so I may/may not have
    taken the white rice, tho I could have always used as a fill for some
    of my sewing projects. (G)

    Given the price I used the white rice. I've done brown rice a few
    times, but apparently I don't "get it". I don't taste a difference in
    the flavour like I can with white vs whole wheat flours.

    There is a definate taste difference. Our favorite Chinese take out
    place usually has both available but the times he hasn't, and we've
    gotten the white rice, the food just isn't the same. If we're eating
    out and have no choice but to get white rice, I'll eat a minimal amount
    of it but leave most of it behind. Brown rice is lower on the glycemic index list as I recall, making it better for diabetics.

    Only rice I have ever noted *any* flavour in is Basmati - which has a
    nutty undertone to it.

    DD> I only did food stamps once. And it was long enough ago that they
    were using real paper "stamps". I used them to buy staples then used

    Same with us; we'd used them once before when Steve lost his job thanks
    to Carter's raising the taxes on luxury goods. At the time he was
    building fiberglass cabin cruisers. Only job he could get was the one
    that payed below subsistance level and was 30 miles (vs about 5) away.

    the $$$ that I would have spent on that groceries for "off list"
    stuff like soda pop and other ineligible things that made life worth living. Bv)=

    At that time cash only went for more basics. Diapers were cloth and washed; disposables were a luxury for travel. Interestingly when our
    girls had their kids, older daughter used disposables, younger used
    cloth.

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to
    go home and back to work.

    Doesn't sound like fun but at least you're still on this side of the
    dirt. (G) We are away from home but will be back in a few days. Later
    I've got to get a few things for our contribution to the feast.

    I'm home now after learning that adult diapers are not necessarily a
    bad thing. Got a walker and a cane and a home as well as a portable
    oxygen generator (which I will be on until they slide me into the oven)

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new
    prescriptions for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James accountant/ bookkeeperss so I have to wait until Monday morn to make an appointment.

    We got together with Steve's younger sister and family plus his mom and
    a niece's boyfriend for dinner yesterday. His older brother & wife
    joined us for dessert. Steve made a basic cranberry sauce; I added my grandmother's German style green beans to the meal (a lot of oranges so the green was a nice color contrast).

    I was scheduled to go to my friend Les' for turkey day but was feeling
    shaky so I cried off. About 16:30 Less showed up here with 2 grocery
    sacks full of Thanksgiving. Turkey, broccoli, diced sweet potatoes,
    a strange (but Tasty) hummus, gravy, cranberry sauce made to my recipe,
    apple pie, a whole store-bough pumpkin pie and a container of pumpkin
    soup. Oh, and two slices of a challah full of fruits and nuts which I
    held over until last night when it served as supper with a cuppa hot chocolate..

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cheesy Broccoli Soup
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Butter
    1/4 c Chopped onions
    2 tb A-P flour
    2 1/2 c Milk
    3/4 lb VELVEETA; in 1/2" cubes
    10 oz Bag chopped broccoli; thawed
    - drained
    1/8 ts Black pepper

    Melt butter in large saucepan on medium heat. Add
    onions; cook and stir 5 min. or until crisp-tender. Add
    flour; cook 1 min. or until bubbly, stirring constantly.

    Stir in milk. Bring to boil; simmer on medium-low heat 1
    min.

    Add remaining ingredients; stir. Cook 5 to 8 min. or
    until cheezoid is completely melted and soup is heated
    through, stirring occasionally.

    UDD NOTES: Substituting cauliflower, in small florettes,
    stalks chopped small; or asparagus spears, chopped works
    well.

    Microwave onions and butter in 2 qt. microwaveable
    casserole or bowl on HIGH 30 sec. to 1 min. or until
    onions are crisp-tender. Add remaining ingredients; mix
    well. Microwave 6 to 8 min. or until Cheezoid is
    completely melted and soup is heated through, stirring
    every 4 min.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.myfoodandfamily.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... "Velveeta - you can eat it or you can wax your car with it" Judy Garland

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Sun Nov 26 03:02:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch and jump
    and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible to text.
    My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through
    with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    I'm glad you came through that okay. That sounds rather frightening to deal while in the middle of the "attack". My first feart attack
    changes the vision in my left eye from 20/20 to 20/25. I was told that
    is common with heart attacks.

    Even though I am back to reasonably stable I still dunno what caused
    this last set of woes.

    I spent eight hours at the emergency room yesterday aferternoon and evening. I thought what I thought was a UTI ... wasn't. Turns out I
    have a lot of blood in my urine and the ER ran every blood test and
    even a CT scan. They couldn't figure out what the problem was. I went home with a referral to urologu and a prescription for a dye that also works as a painkiller for the urinary tract.

    Evidently my kidneys are 100% functional but were/are overloaded from
    the extra blood they're processing.

    Out of all the things I've been through, the kidneys worry me the most.

    This round of "emergencies" began with a bladder infection which shut
    down my kidneys ... that's scary - cuz when your kidneys die so does
    the rest of you.

    They fixed that with a massive dose of antibiotics. Which also woke
    the kidneyd. but led to the second trip to the ER.

    The antibiotic used caused a bout of "antibiotic diarrhoea" which in
    its turn caused an anal bleed and I very nearly bled out. I was told
    that after the 8th bag of blood was put into the filler tube.

    Then came a bout with pneumonia which, thankfully, was not CoVid.

    Followed on by a collapsed lung. Then this latest trip to the ER. Much
    to the chagrin of my remaining enemies I'm still here. No plans to check
    out any time soon. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sick Day Casserole
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies, Pasta
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    1/2 lg Yellow onion; chopped
    Salt & pepper
    4 tb Salted butter
    2 cl Garlic; chopped
    3 md Carrots; peeled, chopped
    2 tb Fresh thyme leaves
    +=OR=+
    1 tb Dried thyme
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    1 tb A-P flour
    3 1/2 c Chicken broth
    1 c Milk
    1/4 c Fresh parsley; rough chopped
    2 lg Eggs; beaten
    3 c Whole grain bread cubes
    2 c Wide egg noodles; uncooked
    1 1/2 c Cooked chicken; shredded or
    - diced
    1 c Kettle cooked potato chips;
    - crushed

    Set the oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Lightly coat a 9" X 13" baking dish.

    In a large skillet over medium heat, heat the oil.

    Add the onion to the oil and cook until they are
    softened and slightly caramelized, about 5 minutes.

    Season the cooked onions with salt & pepper.

    Add the butter, the carrots, and the garlic to the
    onions and cook, for about 5 minutes.

    Stir the thyme and the cayenne into the veggie mixture.

    Sprinkle the flour over the veggies and cook, stirring
    to coat, for about 1 minute.

    Slowly pour the chicken broth and the milk into the
    veggie mixture.

    Season the veggie mixture with salt & pepper.

    Bring the veggie mixture to a low boil.

    Lower the heat to medium and simmer until the veggie
    mixture has thickened, about 5 minutes.

    Transfer the veggie mixture away from the heat.

    Stir the parsley into the veggie mixture.

    Let the veggie mixture cool until it is no longer too
    hot to touch.

    Stir the eggs into the cooled veggie mixture.

    Add the cubes of bread, the noodles, and the chicken to
    the veggie mixture, tossing to combine.

    Transfer the casserole to the prepared baking dish.

    Top the casserole with the crushed kettle chips.

    Bake, uncovered, until the filling is bubbling and the
    top is golden brown, about 35-45 minutes.

    Let the casserole stand for 5 minutes before serving.

    Serve.

    RECIPE FROM: https://cookingprofessionally.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 26 10:32:05 2023
    nobody on your care teamtells you nothing except to say "Doctor will
    explain that." Which seldom happens.

    Waiting on results from an xray I had last Tuesday to try to explain why
    I am unable to stand or walk for more then about 1.5 mins.

    more --- Thank You Very Much R. J. Reynolds and your Camel cigarettes
    @ two packs per day for 45 years,

    I'm glad I quit after 18 years. Hell just for the money. Same reason I
    quit drinking a month ago.... Have a boat load of money now. (LOL - for
    me anything in the bank after pay day is a boat load)


    |09S|11hawn


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 26 11:45:55 2023
    Re: Re: Bread
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Fri Nov 24 2023 05:54:52

    Work at AutoZone - 18 years and going for 20 at which time I'll be 83
    and ready to kick back. Bv)=

    Epic duty cycle on this one. :-)

    What do you do at AutoZone?

    I apologize if i have already asked this before.

    I seem to recall reading long ago that they used Linux.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 26 16:46:58 2023
    Hello, Dave!

    Replying to a message of Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield:

    Title: Cameltoe

    <snorts>

    Remins me of a Sloe Comfortable Screw.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Orange Cream Brownies
    Categories: Candies, Holidays
    Yield: 25 Servings

    3/4 c All purpose flour
    1/4 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt
    6 oz Semi-sweet choc.pieces
    1/2 c Butter(1 stick)cut in pieces
    1/3 c Sugar
    3 tb Orange juice
    1 ts Grated orange peel
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    2 Eggs
    1 1/2 c Chopped walnuts
    ORANGE CREAM: TO FOLLOW
    1/2 c Butter(1 stick) softened
    2 c Confectioners sugar
    1 ts Grated orange peel
    1 ts Milk
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    CHOCOLATE ICING: TO FOLLOW
    6 oz Semi-sweet choc. morsals
    1 tb Butter
    1 tb Vegtable shortning

    Preheat oven to 325 degrees. With foil, line the bottom and sides of
    a 9" square baking pan, allowing foil to overhang slightly. Butter
    foil; set aside. On a square of wax paper, combine flour, baking
    powder and salt. In a small saucepan, combine chocolate morsels,
    butter, sugar and ornage juice; cook and stir over very low heat
    until chocolate and butter are melted. Remove from heat. Stir in
    orange peel and vanilla. Using wire whisk, beat in eggs one at a
    time. Add reserved flour mixture, beating until smooth; stir in nuts,
    spread in prepared pan. Bake until a wooden pick inserted in the
    center comes out clean, 23-25 minutes. Cool completely on a wire
    raack. Spread with ORANGE CREAM. Using a knife, mark CHOCOLATE ICING
    in 36 (1 1/2") squares. Refrigerate until Icing is firm,(about 25
    minutes or place in freezer for 5 minutes.) Lift foil edges to remove
    from pan. Cut in squares. Refrigerate up[ to 4 days or wrap and
    freeze up to 1 month. ORANGE CREAM: In electric mixer, beat butter
    until creamy. Gradually add sugar, beating until fluffy.Beat in
    orange peel,milk, and vanilla. Makes 1 1/2 cups. CHOCOLATE ICING: In
    small saucepan combine chocolate morsels, butter and vegtable
    shortning. Stir over low heat until melted. Makes 1 cup.

    From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 26 16:50:14 2023
    Hello, Dave!

    Replying to a message of Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly:

    I'm home now after learning that adult diapers are not necessarily a
    bad thing. Got a walker and a cane and a home as well as a portable oxygen generator (which I will be on until they slide me into the
    oven)

    I wear adult diapers now because of my gut malfunctioning. I have a walker that I don't use and a coule of canes I do use. Howeer, if my medical team ever gets around to making me a new pair of prosthetic shoes, I can quit using the cane for the time being.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peanut Butter Christmas Mice
    Categories: Desserts, Holidays, Kitmail27, Peanut butt
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1/2 c Butter or margarine; at room
    -temperature
    1 c Creamy peanut butter
    1/2 c Packed light-brown sugar
    1/2 c Granulated sugar
    1 lg Egg
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    1/2 ts Baking soda
    1 1/2 c All-purpose flour
    For decoration: peanut
    -halves, chopped green
    Candied cherries; red
    -licorice
    Laces; cut in 3-inch
    Lengths

    Beat butter and peanut butter in a large bowl with electric mixer
    until creamy. Add sugars and beat until fluffy. Beat in egg, vanilla
    and baking soda until well blended. With mixer on low speed,
    gradually beat in flour just until blended. Cover and chill about 1
    hour until firm enough to handle. Heat oven to 350 degrees. Have
    cookie sheets ready. Shape level tablespoons dough into 1-inch balls.
    Taper each ball at one end into teardrop shape. Press one side flat.
    Place flat sides down 2 inches apart on ungreased cookie sheet. Press
    in sides of balls to raise 'backs of mice." (Dough spreads slightly
    as it bakes.) Gently push 2 peanut halves in each for ears and 2
    pieces of green cherries for eyes. With a wooden pick make a 1/2
    inch-deep hole at tail end. Bake 8 to 10 minutes until firm. Remove
    to rack, insert licorice tails and cool completely. Makes 60. Per
    mouse without decoration: 65 cal, 2 g pro, 6 g car, 4 g fat, 7 mg
    chol with butter, 2 mg chol with margarine, 44 mg sod. Posted in
    KitMail by Molly <MSPRADLEY@delphi.com> >From the Dec. 19,1989 issue
    of Woman's Day. Posted to recipelu-digest Volume 01 Number 248 by
    N8ugz@aol.com on Nov 12, 1997

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 26 16:53:48 2023
    Hello, Dave!

    Replying to a message of Dave Drum to Sean Dennis:

    This round of "emergencies" began with a bladder infection which shut
    down my kidneys ... that's scary - cuz when your kidneys die so does
    the rest of you.

    The weirdest thing: after I was injected with the tracer (Iodine?) for the CT scan, everything hurt less.

    They fixed that with a massive dose of antibiotics. Which also woke
    the kidneyd. but led to the second trip to the ER.

    When I was "treated" by the infectious diseases doctor at my VA hospital, I became allergic to five different antibiotics and he destroyed my gut biome so badly that I have to take three medications several times a day just so I don't get sick. I lose a lot of water that way and I drink a lot of water to make up for it.

    The antibiotic used caused a bout of "antibiotic diarrhoea" which in
    its turn caused an anal bleed and I very nearly bled out. I was told
    that after the 8th bag of blood was put into the filler tube.

    I'm glad you didn't wind up with C. diff. That nearly killed my stepfather.

    Then came a bout with pneumonia which, thankfully, was not CoVid.

    Still, pneumonia is terrible.

    Followed on by a collapsed lung. Then this latest trip to the ER. Much
    to the chagrin of my remaining enemies I'm still here. No plans to
    check out any time soon. Bv)=

    Same here. A patriuclar person in Fidonet even accused me of lying about my heart attacks to get attention.

    After surviving two heart attacks, two huge pulmonary embolisms, and a deep vein thrombosis, I still don't have plans of leaving this earthly realm.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Savory Cabbage with Red Potatoes
    Categories: Cabbage, Holidays, Not sent, Potatoes, Sauces
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 sm Head cabbage, 1 1/2 pound,
    -in 6 wedges
    1 lb Small red potatoes,
    -quartered

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    1/4 c Butter
    2 tb Sliced green onions
    2 ts Prepared horseradish (up to
    -3)
    1/8 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Pepper

    In Dutch oven, place steamer basket in 1/2" water (water should not
    touch the bottom of the basket).

    Place cabbage and potatoes in basket Cover tightly and bring to a
    boil. Reduce heat and steam 20-25 minutes until tender.

    Meanwhile in 1 cup glass measure, combine sauce ingredients.
    Microwave on High for 45 seconds to 1 minute or until butter is
    melted. Drizzle over vegetables. Serve with Dijon Glazed Corned Beef.

    Per 1/6 of Savory Cabbage and Red Potatoes AND Dijon Glazed Corned
    Beef:

    417 caloires, 111 mg. cholesterol, 20 gr. fat, 262 mg. sodium, 32 g.
    protein, 27 g. carbohydrate.

    MC formatting by bobbi744@sojourn.com

    Recipe by: Lansing State Journal - Associated Press Posted to
    MC-Recipe Digest V1 #514 by Roberta Banghart <bobbi744@sojourn.com>
    on Mar 13, 1997

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 26 17:02:30 2023
    Hello, Shawn!

    Replying to a message of Shawn Highfield to Dave Drum:

    Waiting on results from an xray I had last Tuesday to try to explain
    why I am unable to stand or walk for more then about 1.5 mins.

    Time to get out the WS-=40 and duct tape.

    I'm glad I quit after 18 years. Hell just for the money. Same reason
    I quit drinking a month ago.... Have a boat load of money now. (LOL
    - for me anything in the bank after pay day is a boat load)

    I'm glad you're sober. Alcohol killed one of my uncles at 50. Literally drank himself to death.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Stove Top Holiday Potpourri
    Categories: Holidays, Tried and t
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 tb Ground Cinnamon
    2 tb Ground Cloves
    1 tb Ground Nutmeg
    1 tb Ground Ginger
    1 tb Anise Seed
    1 qt Water

    Bring all ingredients to a boil in a crockpot or in a small saucepan.
    Reduce to simmer. Continue to add water as the water level goes down.
    Stir every couple of hours. Lasts about a week.

    Recipe by: Mary Lou Anderson

    Posted to TNT - Prodigy's Recipe Exchange Newsletter by AppleJax54
    <AppleJax54@aol.com> on Dec 9, 1997

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Nov 27 08:55:02 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    nobody on your care teamtells you nothing except to say "Doctor will
    explain that." Which seldom happens.

    Waiting on results from an xray I had last Tuesday to try to explain
    why I am unable to stand or walk for more then about 1.5 mins.

    Pain? Or numbness?

    more --- Thank You Very Much R. J. Reynolds and your Camel cigarettes
    @ two packs per day for 45 years,

    I'm glad I quit after 18 years. Hell just for the money. Same reason
    I quit drinking a month ago.... Have a boat load of money now. (LOL -
    for me anything in the bank after pay day is a boat load)

    When I quit cigasrettes were U$1 pack. I wqs gonna save ALL THAT MONEY. Dunno where it got to though. Quit the guzzle mostly because I could forsee I was beginning to have a problem with it. And I've mostly lost the t aste for it except to cook with or a beer with friends is social situations. I've not had a brewski since the last echo picnic I attended at Dale and Gail's in Columbia, MD. in 2016.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bratwurst In Beer
    Categories: Sausage, Beer, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 10 Servings

    10 Fresh bratwurst sausages;
    - about 2 1/2 lbs
    2 lg Onions; thin sliced
    2 lg Bell peppers; in strips
    1 c Butter
    6 (12 oz ea) bottles beer
    1 1/2 ts Ground black pepper
    10 Hoagie rolls
    Boetje's or Raye's mustard

    Prick bratwurst with fork to prevent them from exploding
    as they cook. Place in a large stock pot with the onions,
    peppers, butter, and beer. Place pot over medium heat,
    and simmer for 15 to 20 minutes.

    Strain vegetables from the beer, skim some of the butter
    off of the liquid and put all in a saute pan to brown a
    bit before using as a condiment on the sandwiches.

    Preheat grill for medium-high heat.

    Lightly oil grate. Cook bratwurst on preheated grill for
    10 to 14 minutes, turning occasionally to brown evenly.

    Serve hot off the grill with onions and peppers and
    stone-ground mustard on hoagie rolls. Offer additional
    beers to accompany the sandwiches.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... Nothing is impossible. Some things are just less likely than others.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Ben Collver on Mon Nov 27 08:55:02 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Work at AutoZone - 18 years and going for 20 at which time
    I'll be 83 and ready to kick back. Bv)=

    Epic duty cycle on this one. :-)

    What do you do at AutoZone?

    I apologize if i have already asked this before.

    No worries. I'm a "Customer Satisfaction" agent (sales clerk) and I'll be a parts delivery drivwe as soon as they get their panties unwadded. I've resisted being co-opted into management becasuse, as I told one district manager "I'm not into nherding cats. Besices, I've seen how you treat your PSMs (Parts Sales Managers). I think I wounded his ego with that one.

    I seem to recall reading long ago that they used Linux.

    They do - SuSE linux is the flavor.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Green Beans w/Fried Bean Curd
    Categories: Oriental, Vegetarian, Beans, Wine
    Yield: 3 Servings

    2 Tofu cakes
    4 tb Oil
    2 tb Soy sauce
    1 tb Dry sherry
    1/2 lb French beans
    1 ts Salt
    1 ts Cornflour
    2 tb Stock

    Cut drained tofu into small cubes. Heat 2 tb oil in a wok and fry
    tofu till it turns golden. Remove & marinate in soy sauce & sherry.

    Cut beans into pieces 2" long. Heat rest of oil & stir fry beans for
    1 minute. Sprinkle with salt. Add tofu and marinade. Dissolve
    cornstarch in water & stir into the rest of the ingredients.

    Cook gently till sauce thickens.

    Serve hot over rice.

    Jack Santa Maria, "Chinese Vegetarian Cooking"

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    From: Http://Www.Recipesource.Com

    MMMMM

    ... Zall's Law: A dirty book is seldom dusty.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Sean Dennis on Mon Nov 27 08:55:02 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hello, Dave!

    Replying to a message of Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield:

    Title: Cameltoe

    <snorts>

    Remins me of a Sloe Comfortable Screw.

    Done Deal!!!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Slow Comfortable Screw Up Against the Wall
    Categories: Beverages, Booze, Citrus
    Yield: 1 Shooter

    1/2 fl Southern Comfort
    1/2 fl Sloe gin
    1/2 fl Galliano
    Orange juice

    Fill highball glass with ice. Add liquors and top with
    orange juice. Stir.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... Even on the Serengeti it ain't a BBQ if there ain't some kind of beer

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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Sean Dennis on Mon Nov 27 08:55:02 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm home now after learning that adult diapers are not necessarily a
    bad thing. Got a walker and a cane and a home as well as a portable
    oxygen generator (which I will be on until they slide me into the
    oven)

    I wear adult diapers now because of my gut malfunctioning. I have a walker that I don't use and a coule of canes I do use. Howeer, if my medical team ever gets around to making me a new pair of prosthetic
    shoes, I can quit using the cane for the time being.

    I started using the big boy's pampers because I didn't have a lot of bladder control until things mended from two weeks with a Foley catheter. I have a supply here at home but they're on standby duty. And I keep a wide mouth plastic container that formerly held peanut buteer stuffed pretzels right hand in both the comfuser room and the befroom. Saves a lot of "accidents". Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peanut Butter Christmas Mice
    Categories: Desserts, Holidays, Kitmail27, Peanut butt
    Yield: 1 Servings

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peanut Butter Stuffed Pretzel Bites
    Categories: Breads, Snacks, Nuts
    Yield: 100 Bites

    MMMMM---------------------------DOUGH--------------------------------
    1 1/2 c Warm water
    1/4 c Unsalted butter; melted
    3 tb Honey
    2 1/4 ts Active dry yeast; 1 pkt
    5 c A-P flour; divided
    2 1/2 ts Salt

    MMMMM--------------------BAKING SODA SOLUTION-------------------------
    2 qt Water
    1/2 c Baking soda

    MMMMM---------------------FILLING & EGG WASH--------------------------
    1 c Smooth peanut butter
    1 lg Egg
    +=BEATEN WITH=+
    1 tb Cold water
    Coarse sea salt

    PREPARE THE DOUGH: In the bowl of a stand mixer, combine
    the water, butter, honey and yeast, and mix with the
    dough hook until combined. Let stand for 5 minutes, or
    until slightly foamy.

    Add 4 1/2 cups of flour and salt to the bowl, and mix on
    low speed until the dough starts to come together.
    Increase speed to medium and continue kneading until the
    dough comes together into a ball and starts to pull away
    from the sides of the bowl, about 3 to 4 minutes. The
    dough should feel slightly tacky and elastic - if itCÇÖs
    too wet or sticky, add more flour as needed, a tb at a
    time. Transfer the dough to a clean work surface and
    shape into a ball.

    Transfer the dough to a lightly greased mixing bowl,
    turning over to coat all over with oil. Cover with a
    clean dishtowel or plastic wrap and place in a warm,
    draft-free spot until the dough doubles in size, about 1
    hour.

    SHAPE & FILL THE BITES: Set the oven @ 425+|F/218+|C.

    Lightly grease two large baking sheets with oil or
    cooking spray.

    Remove the dough from the bowl and place on a flat
    surface. Divide the dough into 8 equal pieces and roll
    each one out into a 16" rope.

    Using a sharp knife, score each rope down the middle to
    create a trench, making sure not to cut all the way
    through. Using a spoon, spread 2 tablespoons peanut
    butter into the bottom of the trench.

    Carefully fold the two halves back together, and firmly
    pinch the seam shut. Using a sharp knife, cut the ropes
    into 1" pieces, then pinch off the cut ends to seal in
    the peanut butter.

    COOK THE PRETZEL BITES: In a large pot, prepare the
    baking soda solution by bringing the water to a boil
    and adding the baking soda.

    Drop pretzel bites into the baking soda solution,
    working in batches of 10-15 bites at a time. Boil for
    15-20 seconds, then remove with a slotted spoon and
    transfer to a baking sheet lined with paper towel to
    drain.

    Arrange the boiled pretzels on greased baking sheets.
    Brush tops with egg wash, and sprinkle generously with
    coarse salt.

    Bake in preheated oven for 12-15 minutes or until golden
    brown, then allow to cool for 5 minutes on baking sheet
    before transferring to a serving dish. For best results,
    serve the pretzel bites the same day they're made.

    Yield: 100 pretzel bites

    Posted by Isabelle Boucher

    Recipe from: http://www.ilovepeanutbutter.com.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... The brain is the only organ to give itself a name.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Sean Dennis on Mon Nov 27 08:55:02 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    This round of "emergencies" began with a bladder infection which shut
    down my kidneys ... that's scary - cuz when your kidneys die so does
    the rest of you.

    The weirdest thing: after I was injected with the tracer (Iodine?) for
    the CT scan, everything hurt less.

    They fixed that with a massive dose of antibiotics. Which also woke
    the kidneyd. but led to the second trip to the ER.

    When I was "treated" by the infectious diseases doctor at my VA
    hospital, I became allergic to five different antibiotics and he
    destroyed my gut biome so badly that I have to take three medications several times a day just so I don't get sick. I lose a lot of water
    that way and I drink a lot of water to make up for it.

    Fortunately my only known allergies are bananas and cannbis. The allergy to weed got me thrugh the 60s more or less intact. Bv)=

    The antibiotic used caused a bout of "antibiotic diarrhoea" which in
    its turn caused an anal bleed and I very nearly bled out. I was told
    that after the 8th bag of blood was put into the filler tube.

    I'm glad you didn't wind up with C. diff. That nearly killed my stepfather.

    Izzat "c. difficile"? Thar's the majority of what my search enging came up with,

    Then came a bout with pneumonia which, thankfully, was not CoVid.

    Still, pneumonia is terrible.

    Especially after having been double vaxxed againt pmeumonia.

    Followed on by a collapsed lung. Then this latest trip to the ER. Much
    to the chagrin of my remaining enemies I'm still here. No plans to
    check out any time soon. Bv)=

    Same here. A patriuclar person in Fidonet even accused me of lying
    about my heart attacks to get attention.

    Go"Lee"? Who would do such a thing unless trying to draw attention to]\ to his own self.

    After surviving two heart attacks, two huge pulmonary embolisms, and a deep vein thrombosis, I still don't have plans of leaving this earthly realm.

    Fortinately I is missed all of that. My project for this week is to get that that little Lenovo laptop I scored off of you set up got Phydeauz duty. I tried using it in the ReHab centre so now I know pretty much what need doinf.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fido's Ranch Biscuits
    Categories: Breads, Poultry, Dairy
    Yield: 18 Servings

    1 pk Active dry yeast
    2 c Chicken broth; warm
    1/4 c Butter
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    2 c All-purpose Flour
    1 c Wheat germ
    4 c Whole wheat flour
    1/2 c Warm water
    1/2 c Skim milk powder
    1/4 c Honey
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 c Cornmeal
    2 c Cracked wheat

    In small bowl, dissolve yeast in warm water.

    In large bowl combine broth, powdered milk, butter,
    honey, egg and salt.

    Add yeast/water and mix well.

    Stir in flour, cornmeal, wheat germ and cracked wheat.
    Mix well.

    Add whole wheat flour, 1/2 cup at a time, mixing well
    after each addition.

    Knead in the final amounts of flour by hand and continue
    kneading for 4 or 5 minutes until dough is not sticky.

    Pat or roll dough to 1/2" thickness and cut into shapes
    with a cookie cutter.

    Place on a greased cookie sheet, cover lightly and let
    set for 20 minutes.

    Bake in a 350+|F/175+|C oven for 45 minutes.

    Turn off heat and leave in oven several hours or overnight.

    Yields: 1 1/2 dozen

    From: http://recipeland.com/recipe

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before" - Eisenhower

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 26 22:42:21 2023
    Hi Dave,


    There are some things that Velveeta works well in.

    So I've heard, but not tried. I've stuck with real cheese since then.

    See the attached recipe for a good use I've found for it. My house

    I saw it, would probably sub out real cheese, even tho it doesn't melt
    as well.Had my first piece of American cheese in decades yesterday; we
    were headed home and stopped at a Wendy's for lunch. Got a single burger
    and forgot to tell them to hold the cheese. I survived, but have to
    remember that if we go to Wendy's again. I also tried their peppermint frosty--mild peppermint taste, no bits of candy in it and a pepto-bismo
    pink color. I'd rather have an Arby's Andes mint shake (first choice) or Chik-Fil-A's peppermint shake (2nd choice).

    mate's youngest boy is eligible for food stamps and associated DD>
    give-aways and he sometimes brings his dad a care package. Some of DD>
    which goes to the pooches But, they won't touch the Velveeta (smart DD>
    dogs) so I did a "take" on one of my favourite soups.

    Is there any good use for that stuff? (G)


    Given the price I used the white rice. I've done brown rice a few
    times, but apparently I don't "get it". I don't taste a difference in
    the flavour like I can with white vs whole wheat flours.

    There is a definate taste difference. Our favorite Chinese take out
    place usually has both available but the times he hasn't, and we've
    gotten the white rice, the food just isn't the same. If we're eating
    out and have no choice but to get white rice, I'll eat a minimal amount
    of it but leave most of it behind. Brown rice is lower on the glycemic index list as I recall, making it better for diabetics.

    Only rice I have ever noted *any* flavour in is Basmati - which has a nutty undertone to it.

    Brown has a bit of that too, especially if "toasted" a bit before adding
    the liquid.

    were using real paper "stamps". I used them to buy staples then used

    Same with us; we'd used them once before when Steve lost his job thanks
    to Carter's raising the taxes on luxury goods. At the time he was
    building fiberglass cabin cruisers. Only job he could get was the one
    that payed below subsistance level and was 30 miles (vs about 5) away.

    the $$$ that I would have spent on that groceries for "off list"
    stuff like soda pop and other ineligible things that made life worth living. Bv)=

    At that time cash only went for more basics. Diapers were cloth and washed; disposables were a luxury for travel. Interestingly when our
    girls had their kids, older daughter used disposables, younger used
    cloth.

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to
    go home and back to work.

    Doesn't sound like fun but at least you're still on this side of the
    dirt. (G) We are away from home but will be back in a few days. Later
    I've got to get a few things for our contribution to the feast.

    I'm home now after learning that adult diapers are not necessarily a
    bad thing. Got a walker and a cane and a home as well as a portable
    oxygen generator (which I will be on until they slide me into the
    oven)

    I've got both a home and a travel oxygen concentrator. Not fond of them
    but they're a lot better than the C-Pap machine. Every time I tried
    using that, I'd come down with bronchitis, even with brand new hoses and filters. Also couldn't find any mask that fit my face comfortably.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near
    impossible DD> to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging".
    And I've come DD> through with some vision damage. Going to have to get
    new DD> prescriptions for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James
    accountant/ bookkeeperss so I have to wait until Monday morn to make
    an appointment.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we
    had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level.
    Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................


    We got together with Steve's younger sister and family plus his mom and
    a niece's boyfriend for dinner yesterday. His older brother & wife
    joined us for dessert. Steve made a basic cranberry sauce; I added my grandmother's German style green beans to the meal (a lot of oranges so the green was a nice color contrast).

    I was scheduled to go to my friend Les' for turkey day but was feeling shaky so I cried off. About 16:30 Less showed up here with 2 grocery
    sacks full of Thanksgiving. Turkey, broccoli, diced sweet potatoes,
    a strange (but Tasty) hummus, gravy, cranberry sauce made to my
    recipe, apple pie, a whole store-bough pumpkin pie and a container of pumpkin
    soup. Oh, and two slices of a challah full of fruits and nuts which I
    held over until last night when it served as supper with a cuppa hot chocolate..

    Sounds like you ate well. We had all the usual dishes but a turkey
    breast instead of the whole bird. Went out with Steve's mom, siblings
    and spouses for Italian (Grandpa Sam's--really good) the next night and
    now home.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... OH NO! Not ANOTHER learning experience!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Nov 27 10:28:55 2023
    Hello Dave,

    Monday November 27 2023 08:55, you wrote to me:

    Fortunately my only known allergies are bananas and cannbis. The
    allergy to weed got me thrugh the 60s more or less intact. Bv)=

    I'm allergic to weed also. Makes me really sick.

    Izzat "c. difficile"? Thar's the majority of what my search enging
    came up with,

    Yes. Clostridioides difficile. Nasty, nasty stuff.

    Especially after having been double vaxxed againt pmeumonia.

    The VA has offered me pneumonia shots but I've refused since once I quit working around the public, I quit getting chest-related infections.

    Go"Lee"? Who would do such a thing unless trying to draw attention
    to]\ to his own self.

    No, our esteemed Z2C, Ward Dossche (though Bjorn/Lee have slipped their fair share of xenophobic comments). He's had a hard-on for me since I first joined Fidonet in 1996 and I still don't know why. Thank God for Greyhound and a twit filter, he's gone like Lee and his typist.

    Fortinately I is missed all of that. My project for this week is to
    get that that little Lenovo laptop I scored off of you set up got
    Phydeauz duty. I tried using it in the ReHab centre so now I know
    pretty much what need doinf.

    I'm lucky that I had no heart damage from my heart attacks, just minor vision loss in my right eye from that first one. I do have damage to my left ventricle from high blood pressure.

    I'm glad you still have that laptop. I'm thinking about getting a "newer" laptop myself. This one I have has a lower-resolution screen and I need something with a more high-resolution look.

    Side note: I picked an 11-year-old HP mini-tower for a "new" home for my BBS. That poor computer was so filthy that I completely disassembled the computer down to bare metal, even removing the power switch and front USB ports in the case, to do a deep clean. I need to reassemble it soon and get it up and running. The case has a lot of minor damage to it. I think it sat on the floor in a factory, shop, or similar environment.

    The CT scan revealed I had a fresh crop of gallstones so I'm working on changing my diet. Last thing I need is another organ to fail in me.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cherry Oatmeal Chewies
    Categories: Crs, Cookies, Holidays, Totest
    Yield: 1 Servings

    3/4 c Butter flavored shortening
    1 1/2 c Firmly packed light brown
    Sugar
    1 Egg
    1/3 c Milk
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla
    3 c Quick oats, uncooked
    1 c Flour
    1/2 ts Baking soda
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Cinnamon
    1 c Chopped candied red
    Cherries
    1 c Chopped candied green
    Cherries

    Preheat oven to 375F. Grease cookie sheets. Place foil on cooling
    surface. Combine dry ingredients. Cream remaining ingredients except
    cherries until well blended. Add dry mixture, stir in cherries. Drop
    rounded tablespoons 2" apart on cookie sheets and bake 10-12 minutes
    or until lightly browned. Don't overbake. Cool a couple of minutes on
    sheets, then remove to foil. Makes about 2 1/2 dozen.

    Country Accents Christmas Cookies 1995

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... Swarm of flying insects threaten town! Police deploy the SWAT team!
    --- GoldED/2 3.0.1
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN * bbs.outpostbbs.net:10323 (1:18/200)
  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Mon Nov 27 06:29:27 2023
    Time to get out the WS-=40 and duct tape.

    I've tried it. LOL

    Literally drank himself to death.

    I wasn't that bad, just made a choice. Speaking of... That chart you
    post on occasion with alternative ingredients. Would you be able to
    email that to me? My laptop is still down so I'm doing mail online and I
    need to ask apam for a way to download messages still. :)

    |09S|11hawn


    --- Talisman v0.48-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (1:229/452)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Nov 27 21:46:19 2023
    Hello Shawn,

    Monday November 27 2023 06:29, you wrote to me:

    I wasn't that bad, just made a choice. Speaking of... That chart you
    post on occasion with alternative ingredients. Would you be able to
    email that to me? My laptop is still down so I'm doing mail online
    and I need to ask apam for a way to download messages still. :)

    Sure thing. I'll get it to you now.

    I'll email it but in case anyone else wants it:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Alcohol Substitutions
    Categories: Info, Seandennis
    Yield: 1 Info

    1 Info

    Amaretto: Almond extract. (Substitute 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon almond
    extract for 2 tablespoons Amaretto.)

    Anisette: Anise Italian soda syrup or fennel.

    Beer: Chicken broth, beef broth, mushroom broth, white grape juice,
    ginger ale.

    Bourbon: 1 1/2 to 2 teaspoons of non-alcoholic vanilla extract.

    Brandy: Water, white grape juice, apple cider or apple juice, diluted
    peach or apricot syrups. (Substitute equal amounts of liquid.)

    Champagne: Ginger ale, sparkling apple cider, sparkling cranberry
    juice, or sparkling white grape juice.

    Cointreau: Orange juice or frozen orange juice concentrate.

    Coffee Liqueur: To replace 2 tablespoons of liqueur, use 1/2 to 1
    teaspoon of chocolate extract mixed with 1 teaspoon of instant
    coffee, which has been mixed in 2 tablespoons of water. Can also
    substitute expresso, non-alcoholic coffee extract or coffee syrup.

    Cognac: Juice from peaches, apricots, or pears.

    Creme de menthe: Spearmint extract or oil of spearmint diluted with a
    little water or grapefruit juice.

    Grand Marnier or Orange-Flavored Liqueur: Unsweetened orange juice
    concentrate or orange juice. (Substitute 2 tablespoons unsweetened
    orange juice concentrate or 2 tablespoons orange juice and 1/2
    teaspoon orange extract for 2 tablespoons Grand Marnier.)

    Kahlua: Coffee or chocolate-flavored liqueur. (Substitute 1/2 to 1
    teaspoon chocolate extract or substitute 1/2 to 1 teaspoon instant
    coffee in 2 tablespoons water for 2 tablespoons Kahlua.)

    Kirsch: Syrup or juices from cherries, raspberries, boysenberries,
    currants, or cider. (Substitute equal amounts of liquid.)

    Peppermint Schnapps: Non-alcoholic mint or peppermint extract, mint
    Italian soda syrup, or mint leaves.

    Port Wine, Sweet Sherry, or Fruit-Flavored Liqueur): Orange juice or
    apple juice. (Substitute equal amount of liquid.)

    Rum (light or dark): Water, white grape juice, pineapple juice, apple
    juice or apple cider, or syrup flavored with almond extract.
    (Substitute equal amounts of liquid.)

    Sake: Rice vinegar.

    Sherry or Bourbon: Orange or pineapple juices, peach syrup, or
    non-alcoholic vanilla extract. (Substitute equal amount of liquid 1
    to 2 teaspoons vanilla extract.)

    Southern Comfort: Peach flavored nectar combined with a small amount
    of cider vinegar.

    Tequila: Cactus juice or nectar.

    Triple Sec: Orange juice concentrate, orange juice, orange zest or
    orange marmalade.

    Vermouth, Dry: White grape juice, white wine vinegar, or non-alcoholic
    white wine.

    Vermouth, Sweet: Apple juice, grape juice, balsamic vinegar,
    non-alcoholic sweet wine, or water with lemon juice.

    Whiskey: If a small amount is called for, it can be eliminated.

    Vodka: White grape juice or apple cider combined with lime juice or
    use plain water in place of the vodka.

    Gewurztraminer: White grape juice combined with lemon juice.

    Grappa: Grape juice.

    Port Wine: Concord grape juice with some lime zest added, cranberry
    juice with some lemon juice added, or grape juice concentrate.
    Substitute orange juice or apple juice for lighter ports.

    Red Wine: Red grape juice, cranberry juice, chicken broth, beef broth,
    vegetable broth, clam juice, fruit juices, flavored vinegar.
    (Substitute equal amount of liquid.)

    White Wine: Water, chicken broth, vegetable broth, white grape juice,
    ginger ale.

    Sweet White Wine: White grape juice plus 1 tablespoons Karo corn
    syrup. (Substitute equal amount of liquid.)

    From: http://whatscookingamerica.net/alcoholsub.htm

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 3 January 2009 (revised 25 October 2014).

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... Good moms let you lick the beaters. Great moms turn them off first.
    --- GoldED/2 3.0.1
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN * bbs.outpostbbs.net:10323 (1:18/200)
  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 28 06:41:16 2023
    post on occasion with alternative ingredients. Would you be able
    email that to me? My laptop is still down so I'm doing mail
    Sure thing. I'll get it to you now.

    Got it with thanks!


    |09S|11hawn


    --- Talisman v0.48-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (1:229/452)
  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Nov 28 06:10:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    There are some things that Velveeta works well in.

    So I've heard, but not tried. I've stuck with real cheese since then.

    See the attached recipe for a good use I've found for it. My house

    I saw it, would probably sub out real cheese, even tho it doesn't melt
    as well.Had my first piece of American cheese in decades yesterday; we were headed home and stopped at a Wendy's for lunch. Got a single
    burger and forgot to tell them to hold the cheese. I survived, but have

    Remember that "American" cheese is, at bottom, a mild Cheddar. Wendy's
    is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the bargain in this
    time of high priced fats food.

    to remember that if we go to Wendy's again. I also tried their
    peppermint frosty--mild peppermint taste, no bits of candy in it and a pepto-bismo pink color. I'd rather have an Arby's Andes mint shake
    (first choice) or Chik-Fil-A's peppermint shake (2nd choice).

    Once they get off of chocolate they're wandering in the marketroid's wilderness. I'm not a big fan of the "Frosty" anyway. Druther have an
    honest milkshake (or its fats food equivalent) that I can suck through
    a straw. No Frostys, Blizzards, McFlurries, etc. Only flavour I've ever
    had at fast food place that I like other than chocolate was one time I
    was riding with my brother and he pulled into a Hardee's. I asked for,
    as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage slescrion. Surprise - that's
    what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Given the price I used the white rice. I've done brown rice a few
    times, but apparently I don't "get it". I don't taste a difference
    in the flavour like I can with white vs whole wheat flours.

    There is a definate taste difference. Our favorite Chinese take out
    place usually has both available but the times he hasn't, and we've
    gotten the white rice, the food just isn't the same. If we're eating
    out and have no choice but to get white rice, I'll eat a minimal amount
    of it but leave most of it behind. Brown rice is lower on the glycemic index list as I recall, making it better for diabetics.

    Only rice I have ever noted *any* flavour in is Basmati - which has a nutty undertone to it.

    Brown has a bit of that too, especially if "toasted" a bit before
    adding the liquid.

    Never "toasted" my rice. Most I've ever done is to rinse it - if the
    recipe says to do so.

    8<----- CHOP----->8

    I've been in the body & fender (now rehab) for two weeks. I'm ready to
    go home and back to work.

    Doesn't sound like fun but at least you're still on this side of the
    dirt. (G) We are away from home but will be back in a few days. Later
    I've got to get a few things for our contribution to the feast.

    I just wish I knew what put me in hospital again. No one has told me
    anything - even though I seem to be repaired. Except the eye problems
    which will require new glasses.

    I'm home now after learning that adult diapers are not necessarily a
    bad thing. Got a walker and a cane and a home as well as a portable
    oxygen generator (which I will be on until they slide me into the
    oven)

    I've got both a home and a travel oxygen concentrator. Not fond of them but they're a lot better than the C-Pap machine. Every time I tried
    using that, I'd come down with bronchitis, even with brand new hoses
    and filters. Also couldn't find any mask that fit my face comfortably.

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap. In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense. Somehow
    I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some minority in a
    hate crime.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James
    accountant/ bookkeepers so I have to wait until Monday morn to make
    an appointment.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    We got together with Steve's younger sister and family plus his mom and
    a niece's boyfriend for dinner yesterday. His older brother & wife
    joined us for dessert. Steve made a basic cranberry sauce; I added my grandmother's German style green beans to the meal (a lot of oranges so the green was a nice color contrast).

    I was scheduled to go to my friend Les' for turkey day but was feeling shaky so I cried off. About 16:30 Less showed up here with 2 grocery
    sacks full of Thanksgiving. Turkey, broccoli, diced sweet potatoes,
    a strange (but Tasty) hummus, gravy, cranberry sauce made to my
    recipe, apple pie, a whole store-bough pumpkin pie and a container of pumpkin
    soup. Oh, and two slices of a challah full of fruits and nuts which I
    held over until last night when it served as supper with a cuppa hot chocolate..

    Sounds like you ate well. We had all the usual dishes but a turkey
    breast instead of the whole bird. Went out with Steve's mom, siblings
    and spouses for Italian (Grandpa Sam's--really good) the next night and now home.

    Turkey breast or drumsticks often make more sense than a whale bird.
    Less left/plan overs to deal with.

    I don't remember if I posted this already or not. But it's a neat and
    tasty way to deal with the glut of leftovers ,,,,

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Thanksgiving Leftovers Hot Pockets
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese, Poultry
    Yield: 6 pockets

    A-P flour; for surfaces
    1 lb Homemade or store-bought
    - pizza dough, divided in
    - 6 even balls (see Tip)
    Leftover stuffing
    Leftover roasted or mashed
    - sweet potatoes
    Leftover roast turkey;
    - shredded
    Leftover cranberry sauce
    Leftover gravy
    1 tb Heavy cream or milk
    Shredded Parmesanz
    +=OR=+
    3 sl Ementhal or Cheddar; each
    - cut into two rectangles

    Lightly flour a work surface and lay the 6 dough balls
    out on top. Dust with flour and cover with a clean
    kitchen towel. Allow the dough balls to rest at room
    temperature until easy to stretch, about 45 minutes.

    Adjust an oven rack to the center position and heat oven
    to 425-|F/218-|C. Working 1 at a time and leaving the rest
    covered as you work, roll and stretch each ball of dough
    into a circle about 7 inches in diameter.

    Working with 1 circle at a time, layer a total 1 cup of
    leftovers in a log about 2" wide and 5" long down the
    center: Start with a layer of stuffing, which absorbs
    the juices as the pockets bake, then add vegetables,
    turkey, cranberry sauce and gravy. Do not overstuff.

    Fold the top and bottom of the dough over the ends of
    the log. Lift the right side over the log, stretching it
    a little to completely cover the filling while making
    sure the top and bottom stay tucked in. Fold the left
    side over and repeat. You should end up with a neat
    package about the size of a Chinese egg roll. Repeat
    with the remaining dough circles and filling.

    Transfer the pockets seam side down to a parchment-lined
    rimmed baking sheet. Combine the heavy cream or milk
    with 2 tablespoons of leftover gravy (if you have any)
    and brush the pockets with the mixture. (You can use
    plain heavy cream or milk if you do not have any
    leftover gravy.) Use a sharp knife to cut three slits on
    the top of the pockets for ventilation. Sprinkle the
    pockets with a dusting of shredded Parmesan or lay a
    half slice of Swiss or Cheddar on top of each one.

    Bake until deep golden brown, 12 to 18 minutes. Serve
    immediately with extra gravy and cranberry sauce for
    spooning or dipping. You can also refrigerate the cooked
    pockets and reheat them in a toaster oven, about 7
    minutes at 425-|F/218-|C.

    TIP: You can also use canned pizza dough or thawed
    frozen puff pastry for this. Divide and roll the dough
    into 6 (7" by 6") rectangles. When forming the pockets,
    fold one side over the other and crimp the edges with a
    fork to seal. Bake as directed.

    By: J. Kenji Lopez-Alt

    Yield: 6 pockets

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 28 06:12:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Fortunately my only known allergies are bananas and cannbis. The
    allergy to weed got me thrugh the 60s more or less intact. Bv)=

    I'm allergic to weed also. Makes me really sick.

    My side effects are projectile vomiting and a really sever headache.
    You're the first person I've seen say they have that same allergy. My
    croakers act as if they've never heard of it.

    Izzat "c. difficile"? Thar's the majority of what my search enging
    came up with,

    Yes. Clostridioides difficile. Nasty, nasty stuff.

    Especially after having been double vaxxed againt pmeumonia.

    The VA has offered me pneumonia shots but I've refused since once I
    quit working around the public, I quit getting chest-related
    infections.

    I took 'em when offered and until my system was pretty well compromised
    they seem to have worked. The only offered vaccination I turn down is
    the annual flu vaccine. Ever time I've take a flu shot I've gotten s
    full blown bout of the dread mahogus.

    The docs try to tell me that's a "light touch" of flu. But I know that
    having the sweats, shakes, running of at both ends with the screaming wahjeemies is the real deal, not a "light touch".

    Haven't had any flu since I quit taking the shots. Bv)=

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm glad you still have that laptop. I'm thinking about getting a
    "newer" laptop myself. This one I have has a lower-resolution screen
    and I need something with a more high-resolution look.

    I've got an ASUS 17" laptop as well as my first laptop - a Gatweay that
    had XP on it but now is running on Unbutu linux. And a pair of EEPC's
    that haven't seen the light of day for seven or eight years.

    Side note: I picked an 11-year-old HP mini-tower for a "new" home for
    my BBS. That poor computer was so filthy that I completely disassembled the computer down to bare metal, even removing the power switch and
    front USB ports in the case, to do a deep clean. I need to reassemble
    it soon and get it up and running. The case has a lot of minor damage
    to it. I think it sat on the floor in a factory, shop, or similar environment.

    The CT scan revealed I had a fresh crop of gallstones so I'm working on changing my diet. Last thing I need is another organ to fail in me.

    My gall bladder was so full of rocks they decided to take it ot. Told
    me it was "no big deal" to do it laprascopially. HAH! It was so swollen
    that there was no way it would come out the little hole that laproscopic surgery uses.

    I heard all the horror stories that I'd have to give up fatty and/or
    fried foods. NOPE! I haven't varied my diet and haven't had a single
    problem due to not having my gall bladed.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gall-Of-Goat Float
    Categories: Five, I scream, Beverages
    Yield: 1 Servings

    8 oz Root Beer
    Gall of goat *
    +=OR=+
    4 oz Scoop vanilla I scream

    * I have NO idea - UDD

    Perhaps that famed trio of witches wouldn't have been
    so crotchety if they'd been stirring up these bubbling
    floats.

    For a dastardly presentation, set a large metal bowl
    inside a larger cauldron. Wearing gloves or oven mitts,
    place dry ice in the cauldron around the bowl, then
    fill the bowl with root beer. Pour water onto dry ice
    for a steamy effect.

    To serve, ladle root beer into mugs filled with scoops
    of gall of "goat" or vanilla ice cream.

    From: http://www.marthastewart.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Wed Nov 29 13:14:22 2023
    Hello Everybody,

    This msg is intended for Sean Dennis. But since he has twitted
    most everybody in this echo, it was necessary to address it to ALL.

    Rather than food, Sean Dennis likes to talk about other stuff.
    Namely, whatever is and has been wrong with him since the day he
    was born. And then blame it on others as if it was their fault.

    [..]

    Followed on by a collapsed lung. Then this latest trip to the ER. DD>Much
    to the chagrin of my remaining enemies I'm still here. No DD>plans to check
    out any time soon. Bv)=

    Same here. A patriuclar person in Fidonet even accused me of lying about my
    heart attacks to get attention.

    Doctor Dennis made the claim to have had two heart attacks.
    Maybe it was more. Not really sure of the actually number.
    Just like Doctor Dave made the claim about having a collapsed
    lung. This is what is called an appeal to sympathy. These fake
    doctors want others to feel sorry for them. Whether they are
    being truthful about what they say matters not a whit.

    Of course, Doctor Death has his own plans, and does what he pleases
    when their time is up, spoiling whatever plans they might have had.

    For Life,
    Pinball Wizard

    --
    Resistance.

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  • From Mickey@1:229/307 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Nov 29 19:39:12 2023
    On 29 Nov 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Everybody,

    Followed on by a collapsed lung. Then this latest trip to the ER. DD
    to the chagrin of my remaining enemies I'm still here. No DD>plans to check

    With guys our age, health is the subject of choice, especially while having a cold beer.

    Mick Manning
    -- resting heartrate 72 bpm
    -- general mood lackadaisical
    -- bowel movements - stiff

    Mick Manning
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Nov 28 15:08:55 2023
    Hi Dave,

    There are some things that Velveeta works well in.

    So I've heard, but not tried. I've stuck with real cheese since then.

    See the attached recipe for a good use I've found for it. My house

    I saw it, would probably sub out real cheese, even tho it doesn't melt
    as well.Had my first piece of American cheese in decades yesterday; we were headed home and stopped at a Wendy's for lunch. Got a single
    burger and forgot to tell them to hold the cheese. I survived, but have

    Remember that "American" cheese is, at bottom, a mild Cheddar.

    And I like sharp, the extra sharp even better. Unfortunatly it melted
    into the burger enough so that I couldn't scrape it off.

    Wendy's is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the
    bargain in this time of high priced fats food.

    It's a rare stop for us; we prefer C-F-A or Popeye's--stopped at one of
    those in Fredericksburg on Sunday. Yesterday was the 49th anniversary of
    a special date for us so we went out for seafood (which we'd done on
    that day).

    to remember that if we go to Wendy's again. I also tried their
    peppermint frosty--mild peppermint taste, no bits of candy in it and a pepto-bismo pink color. I'd rather have an Arby's Andes mint shake
    (first choice) or Chick-Fil-A's peppermint shake (2nd choice).

    Once they get off of chocolate they're wandering in the marketroid's

    Thought I'd give it a try, see how it measured up and know what to
    avoid.

    wilderness. I'm not a big fan of the "Frosty" anyway. Druther have an honest milkshake (or its fats food equivalent) that I can suck through

    Sometimes I'll go for one of those but more often get Diet Coke instead.

    a straw. No Frostys, Blizzards, McFlurries, etc. Only flavour I've

    I like a mint M&M Blizzard, don't usually get McFlurries but maybe once
    every few years.

    ever had at fast food place that I like other than chocolate was
    one DD> time I DD> was riding with my brother and he pulled into a
    Hardee's. I asked for, DD> as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage
    slescrion. Surprise - DD> that's what came out the window. And it was
    guite tasty.

    Sounds good. I know C-F-A does them also.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Given the price I used the white rice. I've done brown rice a few
    times, but apparently I don't "get it". I don't taste a difference
    in the flavour like I can with white vs whole wheat flours.

    There is a definate taste difference. Our favorite Chinese take out
    place usually has both available but the times he hasn't, and we've
    gotten the white rice, the food just isn't the same. If we're eating
    out and have no choice but to get white rice, I'll eat a minimal amount
    of it but leave most of it behind. Brown rice is lower on the glycemic index list as I recall, making it better for diabetics.

    Only rice I have ever noted *any* flavour in is Basmati - which has a nutty undertone to it.

    Brown has a bit of that too, especially if "toasted" a bit before
    adding the liquid.

    Never "toasted" my rice. Most I've ever done is to rinse it - if the recipe says to do so.

    We like some of the Lundburg blends, tho they discontinued our favorite
    one. Got some just to try in HI and it became a fast favorite, mix of
    brown, red, green, wild and basmati.

    8<----- CHOP----->8

    I just wish I knew what put me in hospital again. No one has told me anything - even though I seem to be repaired. Except the eye problems which will require new glasses.

    I'm home now after learning that adult diapers are not necessarily a
    bad thing. Got a walker and a cane and a home as well as a portable
    oxygen generator (which I will be on until they slide me into the
    oven)

    I've got both a home and a travel oxygen concentrator. Not fond of them but they're a lot better than the C-Pap machine. Every time I tried
    using that, I'd come down with bronchitis, even with brand new hoses
    and filters. Also couldn't find any mask that fit my face comfortably.

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap.
    In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    Agreed but I can tolerate the concentrator.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense.
    Somehow I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some
    minority in a
    hate crime.

    Some sport (indoor range) but self defense if needed.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James
    accountant/ bookkeepers so I have to wait until Monday morn to make
    an appointment.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    I still do--lost a filling a few weeks ago and he got me in the next day
    to put in a new one.

    We got together with Steve's younger sister and family plus his mom and
    a niece's boyfriend for dinner yesterday. His older brother & wife
    joined us for dessert. Steve made a basic cranberry sauce; I added my grandmother's German style green beans to the meal (a lot of oranges so the green was a nice color contrast).

    I was scheduled to go to my friend Les' for turkey day but was feeling shaky so I cried off. About 16:30 Less showed up here with 2 grocery
    sacks full of Thanksgiving. Turkey, broccoli, diced sweet potatoes,


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Nov 28 15:23:39 2023
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    a strange (but Tasty) hummus, gravy, cranberry sauce made to my
    recipe, apple pie, a whole store-bough pumpkin pie and a container of pumpkin
    soup. Oh, and two slices of a challah full of fruits and nuts which I
    held over until last night when it served as supper with a cuppa hot chocolate..

    Sounds like you ate well. We had all the usual dishes but a turkey
    breast instead of the whole bird. Went out with Steve's mom, siblings
    and spouses for Italian (Grandpa Sam's--really good) the next night and now home.

    Turkey breast or drumsticks often make more sense than a whale bird.
    Less left/plan overs to deal with.

    We'll break it down into meal size packets for the freezer. Carcasse
    then gets made into soup for more meals.

    I don't remember if I posted this already or not. But it's a neat
    and DD> tasty way to deal with the glut of leftovers ,,,,


    Title: Thanksgiving Leftovers Hot Pockets
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese, Poultry
    Yield: 6 pockets

    I don't recall seeing it but it's a nice change from just reheated left
    overs. I might try it using a bread dough (mix some up in the ABM) base.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mickey on Sun Dec 3 13:47:16 2023
    Hello Mickey,

    [..]

    With guys our age, health is the subject of choice, especially while having a cold beer.

    Why settle for beer when one can enjoy the sazerac?

    "I wish I was eighteen again ..." ~George Burns

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    By our spirits, by our blood, we will redeem you, O Al-Aqsa.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 29 06:22:15 2023
    Haven't had any flu since I quit taking the shots. Bv)=

    I'm opposite of you. I get the shot every year and haven't had the flu
    since I started. (Other then the Covid flu which I have had)

    had XP on it but now is running on Unbutu linux. And a pair of EEPC's
    that haven't seen the light of day for seven or eight years.

    I still have my 10+ year old laptop I use. AS well as a 20 year old
    gateway that I keep for printing cheques for an old boss on. Oh and a
    chrome book they end of lifed so I installed a linux distro on it.

    I heard all the horror stories that I'd have to give up fatty and/or
    fried foods. NOPE! I haven't varied my diet and haven't had a single
    problem due to not having my gall bladed.

    My daughter is the same. She can eat anything with no side effects at
    all.


    |09S|11hawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Nov 30 06:13:25 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm opposite of you. I get the shot every year and haven't had the flu since I started. (Other then the Covid flu which I have had)

    Diff'rnt strokes for different folks. I had a light touch of the Covid
    that was just a couple degrees of fever for a few hours. But it sure
    screwed up my sewage plant

    had XP on it but now is running on Unbutu linux. And a pair of EEPC's
    that haven't seen the light of day for seven or eight years.

    I still have my 10+ year old laptop I use. AS well as a 20 year old gateway that I keep for printing cheques for an old boss on. Oh and a chrome book they end of lifed so I installed a linux distro on it.

    I've still got a Commode Door 64 and a wad of Amiga software - but the
    last Amiga I had fried a surface mount - wave soldered CIA chip and I'm
    not good enough with a soldering iron to replace such. So it went to the recyclers. I've been thinking about getting one of the Amiga emulators.
    But I've pretty much decided I've got enough hassles right now.

    If we are goint to continue this discussion we probably ought to take
    it to the Classic Computers echo before we get a rocket fom the moderator.

    I heard all the horror stories that I'd have to give up fatty and/or
    fried foods. NOPE! I haven't varied my diet and haven't had a single
    problem due to not having my gall bladed.

    My daughter is the same. She can eat anything with no side effects at all.

    My only bad side effect - which has little or nothing to do with the
    missing gallbladder - is getting gassy with some foods, like salads
    or sauerkraut. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cheesehead Brats *
    Categories: Sausage, Beer, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 3 Servings

    24 oz Cheap frothingslosh
    2 lg Onions; thin sliced
    6 Uncooked bratwursts
    6 Good-quality hot dog buns
    +=OR=+
    6 sm Submarine rolls
    Brown mustard
    1 lb Bag refrigerated sauerkraut;
    - drained

    Oil the grill racks. Preheat your grill using all burners
    set on high and with the lid closed for 10 to 12 minutes.

    Combine the beer, onions, and brats in a large saucepan.
    If your grill has a side burner, feel free to do this
    process there. Otherwise, place over medium-high heat and
    bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to low and simmer until
    the brats are just cooked through, usually about 8
    minutes. Remember, we’re going to continue cooking these
    brats on the grill.

    Remove the brats from the pot and place them on the grill.
    Grill the brats for 8 to 10 minutes, turning them
    frequently to brown them evenly on all sides. When they
    are done, slide them into your buns and top with mustard
    and sauerkraut.

    * no actual cheese was harmed in the making of this recipe.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.finecooking.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Nov 30 06:46:31 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I saw it, would probably sub out real cheese, even tho it doesn't melt
    as well.Had my first piece of American cheese in decades yesterday; we were headed home and stopped at a Wendy's for lunch. Got a single
    burger and forgot to tell them to hold the cheese. I survived, but have

    Remember that "American" cheese is, at bottom, a mild Cheddar.

    And I like sharp, the extra sharp even better. Unfortunatly it melted
    into the burger enough so that I couldn't scrape it off.

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers. I'm not
    sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over a chssesy one.

    Wendy's is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the
    bargain in this time of high priced fats food.

    It's a rare stop for us; we prefer C-F-A or Popeye's--stopped at one of those in Fredericksburg on Sunday. Yesterday was the 49th anniversary
    of a special date for us so we went out for seafood (which we'd done on that day).

    Didja get the flounder sandwich or the shrimp basket? I'm not a fan of
    the flounder. Much prefer the chicken sandwich - which is the hands-
    down winner in all comparo deals I have seen. Either the crispy or the
    (newish) blackened.

    to remember that if we go to Wendy's again. I also tried their
    peppermint frosty--mild peppermint taste, no bits of candy in it and a pepto-bismo pink color. I'd rather have an Arby's Andes mint shake
    (first choice) or Chick-Fil-A's peppermint shake (2nd choice).

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    ever had at fast food place that I like other than chocolate was one
    time I was riding with my brother and he pulled into a Hardee's. I
    asked for, as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage selection.
    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Sounds good. I know C-F-A does them also.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap.
    In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    Agreed but I can tolerate the concentrator.

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Started back to work yesterday. Going to have to get used to that again.

    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense.
    Somehow I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some
    minority in a hate crime.

    Some sport (indoor range) but self defense if needed.

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to slide
    down a slippery slope.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James
    accountant/ bookkeepers so I have to wait until Monday morn to make
    an appointment.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Unburger
    Categories: Five, Beef, Cheese, Sandwiches
    Yield: 1 Sandwich

    1/2 lb Ground chuck
    1 sl Round Colby or Longhorn
    - cheese 3/16" thick
    Salt & pepper
    1 6" seeded bun; toasted

    Hand form two burger patties from the chuck. Place the
    cheese on top of a patty and cover with second patty.
    Crimp edges together to form one nice sized hamburger
    patty.

    Cook on/in very hot griddle/skillet for 90 seconds on
    first side, flip and cook on other side until melted
    cheese begins to ooze from the meat. Season with salt
    and pepper.

    Place on toasted bun and top with whatever condiments
    you desire.

    An Uncle Dirty Dave Recipe

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 06 June 1996

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Nov 30 06:48:27 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    Sounds like you ate well. We had all the usual dishes but a turkey
    breast instead of the whole bird. Went out with Steve's mom, siblings
    and spouses for Italian (Grandpa Sam's--really good) the next night and now home.

    Turkey breast or drumsticks often make more sense than a whale bird.
    Less left/plan overs to deal with.

    We'll break it down into meal size packets for the freezer. Carcasse
    then gets made into soup for more meals.

    I don't remember if I posted this already or not. But it's a neat
    and tasty way to deal with the glut of leftovers ,,,,

    Title: Thanksgiving Leftovers Hot Pockets
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese, Poultry
    Yield: 6 pockets

    I don't recall seeing it but it's a nice change from just reheated left overs. I might try it using a bread dough (mix some up in the ABM)
    base.

    That should fork. Or you could mix up a pizza dough.

    This is said to freeze well ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pizza Dough in Bread Machine
    Categories: Breads, Pizza
    Yield: 1 Pizza

    2/3 c Water
    2 ts Olive oil
    1 ts Honey
    1 c A-P flour
    1 c Whole wheat flour
    3/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 ts Active dry yeast
    Cornmeal for baking pan

    Put all dough ingredients except cornmeal in pan in order
    listed or reverse order depending on machine type.

    Select dough setting. When machine beeps, Somewhere around 1
    hour 10 min. and 1 hour 20 min, remove the dough. Form it
    into a ball and let rest for 10 minutes.

    Sprinkle cornmeal on 14" round pizza pan or s pread inside
    a 9" x 13" pan. Roll out dough to pan shape and then stretch
    to fit inside preferred pan.

    Spread pizza sauce over top and sprinkle with your fav orite
    toppings. (I used ham, prefried bacon, green and yellow
    pepper, mushrooms, purple onion, cheddar and Monterey jack
    cheese). Bake for 15-20 minutes or un til dough is lightly
    browned.

    Makes 1 14" crust.

    Notes: I melted about 2 tbsps butter and added 1/2 tsp
    garlic salt. I brushed this around the edge of the pizza
    (the rim that wasn't covered with tomato sauce ), before
    baking.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 1 06:30:21 2023
    But I've pretty much decided I've got enough hassles right now.

    The emulators are not a lot of work and the modern ones work a treat.

    My only bad side effect - which has little or nothing to do with the
    missing gallbladder - is getting gassy with some foods, like salads
    or sauerkraut. Bv)=

    I think that's everyone. :)


    |09S|11hawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Dec 10 11:17:00 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Haven't had any flu since I quit taking the shots. Bv)=

    I'm opposite of you. I get the shot every year and haven't had the flu since I started. (Other then the Covid flu which I have had)

    Oh, I mamaged to get a "break-through" of CoVid. After being double
    vaxxed and triple boosted. But other than the internal sewage plant
    getting scrooged up it was almost a non-event. I had two degrees of
    fever for about three hours. Would that my bouts of influenza were as
    mild. Bv)>

    I get the feeling that I'm repeating myse;f here.

    had XP on it but now is running on Unbutu linux. And a pair of EEPC's
    that haven't seen the light of day for seven or eight years.

    I still have my 10+ year old laptop I use. AS well as a 20 year old gateway that I keep for printing cheques for an old boss on. Oh and a chrome book they end of lifed so I installed a linux distro on it.

    I heard all the horror stories that I'd have to give up fatty and/or
    fried foods. NOPE! I haven't varied my diet and haven't had a single
    problem due to not having my gall bladed.

    My daughter is the same. She can eat anything with no side effects at all.

    Except maybe the weight gain.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Southern Fried Deep-Fat Fried Fat
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 16 Servings

    1 lb Ham fat; with skin, in 16
    - squares
    1 qt Oil, tallow or lard

    MMMMM---------------------------BATTER--------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Sifted flour
    2 c Cold water
    +=OR=+
    2 c Club soda
    Egg yolks
    pn Salt

    Cut the ham fat into 16 equal, squarish pieces. Set
    aside.

    Put oil/tallow/lard into a deep fryer or a fondue pot
    to heat. While the cooking oil is heating to 360ºF/180ºC
    ......

    Make the batter. I prefer to use club soda as it gives a
    lighter (and I think) crispier batter. You may use plain
    old cold water if you wish. A couple (or three) egg
    yolks help hold things together and blend in.

    When the oil is hot, dip the chunks of fat into the
    batter and fry in the hot oil until golden brown.

    Serve hot.

    If you have batter left over you may want to fry up some
    batter-dipped crudities (cauliflower or broccoli florets,
    onion rings, or bell pepper strips/rings) as an
    accompaniment.

    Serve with your favourite hot-pepper sauce on the side.

    FROM: The fevered brain of Uncle Dirty Dave, in his
    kitchen one dark and stormy night. Inspired by the glut
    of fried "stuff" hawked at fairs and expositions. This
    ain't "healthy" in any key. But it IS tasty.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Dec 10 11:45:00 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    But I've pretty much decided I've got enough hassles right now.

    The emulators are not a lot of work and the modern ones work a treat.

    Oh, I know. But, I'm pretty much done with art/animation and desk-top publishing - the Amiga's strengths. I've test flown both WinUAE and
    Amiga Forever. MEH

    On the other paw I came across an A-2000-030 that needs a power supply
    which I know how to hace in a PC power brick. I just don't know if I
    want to go haring off down that road again. Hard to find 3.5" floppies
    and SCSI hard drives these days.

    My only bad side effect - which has little or nothing to do with the
    missing gallbladder - is getting gassy with some foods, like salads
    or sauerkraut. Bv)=

    I think that's everyone. :)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bison Bratwurst & Brussels Sprouts Sauerkraut
    Categories: Game, Beer, Vegetables, Herbs,
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb Onion & leek bison bratwurst
    1 lg Onion; sliced
    12 oz Bock-style beer
    2 c Bison broth; made w/soup
    - bones
    2 tb Butter
    3 c Sauerkraut; drained on paper
    - towels
    1 c Brussels sprouts; halved,
    - sautéed in advance using
    - coconut oil
    Salt & pepper

    Heat a tall-sided skillet or wide, shallow pot over
    medium-high heat.

    Add onion, beer, and bison bratwurst. Simmer, turning
    brats occasionally, until beer is reduced to a syrupy
    consistency and onions are caramelized, about 10
    minutes.

    Remove brats and add beef/bison broth to the pan,
    scraping the bottom until mixture is fully incorporated.

    Add the brats back into the pan and simmer until fully
    cooked, about 10 minutes more.

    Remove brats and bring broth to a full boil until
    reduced to syrupy consistency. Be careful that it
    doesn’t burn off.

    Reduce heat to medium-low and melt the grassfed butter,
    scraping up the caramelized bits in the pan.

    Add brats back into the pan. Place sauerkraut around
    brats and cook until somewhat crisp. Turn brats over and
    stir often.

    Add the sautéed Brussels sprouts and stir them into the
    sauerkraut until heated.

    Season with salt and pepper to taste if needed.

    Enjoy w/good bottle of red wine & even better friends.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.yummly.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 10 13:09:14 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    I've been thinking about getting one of the Amiga emulators.

    Those emulators are pretty solid from what I've heard.

    Classic Computers echo

    I know the moderator. Seems like a nice guy.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Harrod's Christmas Pudding
    Categories: British, Christmas, Desserts, Fruits, Harned 1994
    Yield: 2 Puddings

    1/2 lb Unsalted butter plus about
    2 ts Butter; for greasing molds
    1 1/3 c Dark brown sugar
    3 Eggs; beaten
    3 tb Dark corn syrup
    2/3 c Self-rising flour
    1 pn Salt
    1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/2 ts Freshly grated nutmeg
    1/2 ts Apple pie spice
    1 Lemon; juice of
    1 Orange; fine grated rind of
    1 Lemon; fine grated rind of
    4 c Fresh bread crumbs
    1 1/3 c Golden raisins
    1 1/3 c Raisins
    1 1/3 c Currants
    1/3 c Chopped mixed citrus peel
    -- (2 ounces)
    1/4 To 1/2 cup brandy

    MMMMM--------------------JUST BEFORE SERVING-------------------------
    Garnish with holly
    Ignite with brandy

    Thickly butter and dust with flour two 1-quart molds (or dome-shaped
    china, ceramic or glass bowls). Set aside.

    Beat the 1/2 lb. butter until soft. Add sugar and beat until fluffy.
    Gradually beat in the eggs and syrup.

    Sift flour with salt and spices; fold into the butter mixture with the
    lemon juice, grated rinds, bread crumbs, fruits, mixed peel and
    brandy.

    Spoon mixture into the 2 prepared molds. If molds don't have lids,
    cover each with a circle of waxed paper, then a piece of foil pleated
    across the center and securely tied in place. Leave overnight in
    refrigerator.

    Put molds in a large saucepan with enough water to come halfway up the
    sides of the molds. Cover and steam for 5 hours; remove from the
    water.

    Let cool completely, then cover with a clean piece of waxed paper and
    a pudding cloth (muslin or closely woven cheesecloth) secured with a
    string and ends of the cloth tied in a knot over the pudding mold.

    Leave in the refrigerator to mature before using. Before serving,
    steam about 3 hours. Remove from mold. Bring to the table blazing in
    'ignited brandy, and bedight with Christmas holly stuck into the top.'

    Yield: Two 2 lb. puddings.

    From Special Writer Marilyn Kluger's 11/25/92 "A Dickens of a Delight:
    Christmas Plum Pudding is a Holiday Treat Straight from Merry Olde
    England" article in "The (Louisville, KY) Courier-Journal." Pg. C7.
    Typed for you by Cathy Harned.

    From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

    MMMMM

    --Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 10 13:24:02 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers. I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over a chssesy
    one.

    My mother. She got burnt out on all cheese when she was a kid and can't
    stand it on anything now.

    I love Cheddar also. Extra sharp is my favorite.

    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Hardee's shakes are surprisingly good. I love their Frisco burgers.

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's timefor
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I just unplug the hose from the mask. Esay to deal with when you're half-asleep.

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to slide down a slippery slope.

    I had to stop carrying because of the physical damage to my hands but if
    worse came to worse, I can still handle a .45 or a 9mm just fine.

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    Me either. <G>

    Here something I'm considering making. Found it in my big "Internet
    recipes" database.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Country Beef and Rice
    Categories: Hamburger, Rice, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 Slices bacon, cut into 1"
    Pieces
    1 lb Ground beef
    1/2 c Chopped onion
    2 c (1/2 pkg.) frozen broccoli,
    Corn and red bell peppers
    1 c (10 3/4 oz.) condensed
    Mushroom soup
    1 Soup can water
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    1 1/2 c Dry rice

    Cook bacon in a skillet until crisp. Remove bacon and set aside.
    Brown beef with onion in hot drippings in skillet; drain fat. Add
    vegetables, soup, water and garlic powder. Bring to a boil; reduce
    heat and simmer 1 minute. Stir in bacon and rice. Cover; remove
    from heat. Let stand 5 minutes. Makes 4 servings.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Sean Dennis on Mon Dec 11 07:20:56 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers. I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over a chssesy
    one.

    My mother. She got burnt out on all cheese when she was a kid and
    can't stand it on anything now.

    Like I am with bologna. When I got out of the Navy I was living in Memphis
    with some buddies. Workn was scarce as was money but we managed to odd-job
    up enough for the rent and utilities every montth. One of the guys scored (probably ripped-off) a trove of packaged bologna. We had bologna any way
    you can think of and somew you'd say "Wot the?!?!?!".

    To this day bologna triggers my gag reflex.

    I love Cheddar also. Extra sharp is my favorite.

    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Hardee's shakes are surprisingly good. I love their Frisco burgers.

    Don't go there these days unless you're into sticker shock. I orederd a
    candied bacon Frisco combo a couple days ago. Burger, fries, soft drink
    set me back north of U$12. Heck I can go to a real restaurant, sit at
    a table and have a sweet young thing trot my food and beverage out to
    me and be out the door, tip included, for that kind of money.

    I wish that Frisco was less $$$$ - it was great. But that sort of pricing
    makes my throat slam shut (figuratively).

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's timefor
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I just unplug the hose from the mask. Esay to deal with when you're half-asleep.

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to
    slide down a slippery slope.

    I had to stop carrying because of the physical damage to my hands but
    if worse came to worse, I can still handle a .45 or a 9mm just fine.

    Oh, I never had that problem. But the temptation to get a little too
    "frisky" with the iron was getting stronger. So I began leaving it at
    home - readily accessible but not "spur of the moment" accessible.

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    Me either. <G>

    Here something I'm considering making. Found it in my big "Internet recipes" database.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Country Beef and Rice
    Categories: Hamburger, Rice, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks a lot like one I've made for yonks .....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Beef & Pepper Skillet
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Vegetables, Rice, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    4 sl Thick-cut bacon in 1/2: dice
    1 lb Ground chuck (80% lean)
    14 1/2 oz Red Gold diced tomatoes w/
    - green chilies; undrained
    14 1/2 oz Can beef broth
    1 tb Chilli spice mix
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Garlic granules
    2 c Ready Rice instant brown rice
    1 md Red bell pepper; sliced
    1 md Bell pepper; sliced
    1 c Shredded Colby-Monterey Jack
    - cheese
    +=OR=+
    1 c Shredded Cheddar

    In a large cast-iron or other heavy skillet, cook
    bacon until crispy. Remove and set aside to drain on
    paper towels. Add the ground chuck to the skillet and
    cook over medium heat until no longer pink, 6 to 8
    minutes, breaking into crumbles.

    Add tomatoes, broth, chilli spice, salt and garlic
    granules; bring to a boil. Stir in rice and peppers.

    Reduce heat; simmer, covered, until liquid is absorbed,
    8-10 minutes. Stir in the bacon pieces.

    Remove from heat; sprinkle with cheese.

    Let stand, covered, until cheese is melted.

    Makes: 6 servings (with sides)

    NOTES: You can add any vegetables you like. This works
    with frozen blends (California Medeley or Winter Mix
    are very nice). It will also stand more chilies than
    come in the tomatoes. Red Gold is called out in the
    ingredients list because of their superior quality.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Sean Dennis on Mon Dec 11 07:26:02 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've been thinking about getting one of the Amiga emulators.

    Those emulators are pretty solid from what I've heard.

    And I have the advantage of having a guy I know who has used them for
    beaucoup years.

    Classic Computers echo

    I know the moderator. Seems like a nice guy.

    Don't twist your arm out of the socket patting him on the back. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chilean Kuchen De Mi Amiga Kako
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Fruits
    Yield: 12 Servings

    MMMMM------------------------KUCHEN DOUGH-----------------------------
    100 g (3 1/2 oz) butter
    3/4 c Sugar
    2 lg Eggs
    1 1/2 c Flour
    2 ts Baking powder
    Milk; as needed make a soft
    - dough

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    300 g (10 1/2 oz) assorted berries
    2 c Whole milk
    1/2 c Sugar
    2 Egg yolks
    1 tb Flour
    1 tb Cornstarch
    Cold milk
    Liquid vanilla

    Beat the butter until is creamy add the sugar and mix
    well.

    Add the eggs and mix well.

    Add the flour with the baking powder and a little milk,
    the batter will be creamy and thick.

    Set the oven @ 180ºC/360ºF.

    Place the batter in the spring pan greased and bake 15
    minutes. I used a spring-form pan about 20 cm/1/2"
    diameter.

    Let chill and reserve.

    FILLING:

    Heat the milk with the sugar, don't boil, only heat, until
    the sugar is dissolved. Take off the fire and set aside.

    Dissolve the flour and the cornstarch with 1/2 cup of cold
    milk.

    In a bowl, spoon the milk with sugar to the cornstarch and
    flour mix, slowly.

    Then place all the batter in a pot and heat to medium fire,
    stirring constantly. When it boils cut the fire inmediately.

    Beat in liquid vanilla.

    The batter will be more thick later.

    Place the berries over the kuchen dough (still with the
    spring pan)

    If you like add some sugar over the berries. And then empty
    the vanilla cream over the berries/fruits.

    set the oven @ 180ºC/360ºF again and place the kuchen inside.

    Let sit 20 minutes or until the cream looks firm.

    Let chill for 1 hour and don't de-mold until is cold.

    You may keep in the fridge for 1 hour more.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Blue White@1:2320/997 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 11 10:48:21 2023
    (probably ripped-off) a trove of packaged bologna. We had bologna any
    way
    you can think of and somew you'd say "Wot the?!?!?!".

    To this day bologna triggers my gag reflex.

    When I was younger, my family received one of those gift boxes for
    Christmas that has a lot of cheeses and some meats. One of my sisters
    decided she liked the summer sausage, so she snuck it off and ate the
    whole portion. Those meats in those boxes are pretty rich, so of course
    eating the whole thing made her ill.

    Long before she quit eating meat, she would no long touch summer sausage.
    :D

    candied bacon Frisco combo a couple days ago. Burger, fries, soft drink
    set me back north of U$12. Heck I can go to a real restaurant, sit at
    a table and have a sweet young thing trot my food and beverage out to
    me and be out the door, tip included, for that kind of money.

    Yeah, I am pretty sure a real good burger at the Cozy Dog, along with a
    side and drink, probably wouldn't set you back that much!

    Mike


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 11 14:43:42 2023
    Hello Dave,

    Monday December 11 2023 07:20, you wrote to me:

    To this day bologna triggers my gag reflex.

    I understand that only too well.

    Don't go there these days unless you're into sticker shock. I orederd
    a candied bacon Frisco combo a couple days ago. Burger, fries, soft
    drink set me back north of U$12. Heck I can go to a real restaurant,
    sit at a table and have a sweet young thing trot my food and beverage
    out to me and be out the door, tip included, for that kind of money.

    I found that out last month when I took my dad out to breakfast. Next time, I'll take him to IHOP or Waffle House.

    I wish that Frisco was less $$$$ - it was great. But that sort of
    pricing makes my throat slam shut (figuratively).

    Oh yeah. If I go out to eat these days, I either get a special deal Taco Bell has only on their app or I will go to a sit-down place.

    Oh, I never had that problem. But the temptation to get a little too "frisky" with the iron was getting stronger. So I began leaving it at
    home - readily accessible but not "spur of the moment" accessible.

    I understand. My good friend, who is a Navy vet and suffers from PTSD, has had that issue with road rage. I've reminded him that if he's carrying and something happens (even if it doesn't involve his weapon), he'll likely be at fault just being guilty by association.

    I carry some hot pepper spray these days. My cane is an excellent self-defense weapon.

    That looks a lot like one I've made for yonks .....

    I'm sure there's a million variations.

    Title: Beef & Pepper Skillet

    That looks better than the one I posted!

    Side question: is there a way in Meal-Master that I can copy a category list from one database to the other?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Afghani Lamb with Spinach
    Categories: Afghan, Harned 1994, Main dish, Nuts, Veal
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 1/2 lb Lamb stew meat
    -- preferably leg
    1/3 c Olive oil
    3/4 lb Onions; diced large
    4 ts Chopped garlic
    2 ts Turmeric
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    1/4 ts Ground cardamom
    1 ts Crushed red pepper
    -- or to taste
    1/2 ts Cinnamon
    32 oz Can tomatoes; drain & chop
    1 c Rich brown veal stock or
    1 c Rich beef stock
    1/3 lb Fresh spinach; wash & drain
    1/2 c Yogurt
    1 tb Grated lemon peel
    Salt; to taste
    1/4 c Pine nuts*

    *Roasted at 350 F. for about 3 minutes.

    Sear lamb in the olive oil in a cast-iron skillet or Dutch oven. Add
    the onions; saute them for 2 minutes; then add the garlic and saute
    it for 1 minute. Put in the turmeric, nutmeg, cardamom, crushed red
    pepper and cinnamon and saute the mixture for 1 to 2 minutes more,
    being careful not to burn the onions or garlic. Add the tomatoes and
    veal stock and stir.

    Cover the dish and bake at 350 F. for about 1 hour, until the meat is
    tender and begins to break up. Remove the dish from the oven and add
    the spinach, stirring until the spinach is wilted and blended in.
    Allow the stew to cool slightly. Add the yogurt, lemon peel and salt
    to taste. Sprinkle with roasted pine nuts.

    Yield: 4 to 6 servings. Serve over rice pilaf.

    From executive chef Phil Soroko of Someplace Special
    restaurant/McLean, VA. In _The New Carry-Out Cuisine_ by Phyllis
    Meras with Linda Glick Conway. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company,
    1986. Pg. 128. ISBN 0-395-42504-2. Typed for you by Cathy Harned.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Dec 11 14:52:12 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Monday December 11 2023 10:48, Blue White wrote to Dave Drum:

    Long before she quit eating meat, she would no long touch summer
    sausage. :D

    I was like that with pizzas, hamburgers, and Taco Bell for ages after working at those places. Even now I cannot stand McDonald's hamburgers though I still enjoy Burger King's.

    Yeah, I am pretty sure a real good burger at the Cozy Dog, along with
    a side and drink, probably wouldn't set you back that much!

    For the price of a fast food meal, I can go to several local eateries and get even better food for the same or a lesser price. That's a given.

    Since we both live in the South...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: A Little Something Extry
    Categories: Meats, Main dish
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 Coon
    Salt
    Pepper
    3 Garlic cloves, minced
    1 Green pepper, chopped
    6 md Sweet potatoes
    Vinegar
    Water to cover
    1 lg Onion, chopped
    Shortening
    Flour

    Dress the meat (hopefully it will come to you this way and you won't
    have to do it yourself). Soak fore one (1) hour in mild vinegar and
    water to remove the gamey taste; drain. Cut the meat in serving size
    pieces as you would chicken, salt and pepper the meat, cover with
    water. Add the seasoning and boil until partially tender. Remove from
    the heat and drain. Brown the meat in a small amount of shortening
    then place in a roasting pan. Make a thin brown gravy with flour and
    meat drippings; pour over the meat. Place peeled sweet potatoes
    around the meat and bake at 350 degrees until the potatoes are done.
    Good luck.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Blue White@1:2320/997 to Sean Dennis on Mon Dec 11 15:47:29 2023
    Long before she quit eating meat, she would no long touch summer sausage. :D

    I was like that with pizzas, hamburgers, and Taco Bell for ages after working at those places. Even now I cannot stand McDonald's
    hamburgers though I still enjoy Burger King's.

    Funny thing... I used to work at a meat packing plant that killed and
    processed hogs. Although there are a couple of luncheon meat types I
    would not eat now (probably never would have honestly), I have no
    adversion at all to continuing to eat pork products. The two luncheon
    meats in question would be because of how they smelled while being
    cooked. Ewwwww....

    The bacon and ham, OTOH, always smelled delicious! :D

    Since we both live in the South...

    Coon is one game meat I have never tried before. I have had ground deer
    in chili, deer balogna, moose pot roast, roast duck, and bear. Bear is
    the only one I did not really care for. I am surprised, but I have never knowningly had squirrel, even though I have had friends who hunt them for
    food.

    Mike

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Dec 11 16:37:49 2023
    Hello Blue,

    Monday December 11 2023 15:47, you wrote to me:

    The bacon and ham, OTOH, always smelled delicious! :D

    I worked for a bit slaughtering animals and eating meat still doesn't bother me. It's like how I love chorizo; my mom asked me once if I knew what was in it and I responded "yes and I still like it anyway".

    Coon is one game meat I have never tried before. I have had ground
    deer in chili, deer balogna, moose pot roast, roast duck, and bear.
    Bear is the only one I did not really care for. I am surprised, but I have never knowningly had squirrel, even though I have had friends who hunt them for food.

    I've had deer (yum), duck (yum), and squirrel (stringy). Venison is my favorite by far.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ozark-Style Venison Stroganoff
    Categories: Meats, Main dish
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Venison
    1 Marinade recipe for game
    All-purpose flour
    1/4 c Vegetable shortening
    1 cn Mushrooms 6oz
    1 Onion, finely chopped
    1 Garlic clove, pressed
    1 cn Cream of tomato soup
    1/4 ts Hot sauce
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Sour cream

    Cut venison into 1 1/2 inch cubes and place in a bowl. Pour your
    favorite marinade over; marinate several hours, turning occasionally.
    Drain off marinade. Dredge venison with flour; brown in the hot
    shortening in iron skillet. Drain mushrooms and reserve liquid. Add
    onion, garlic, and mushrooms to venison. Combine soup, reserved
    mushroom liquid, hot sauce, Worcestershire sauce, and salt; stir into
    venison mixture. Simmer 1 hour and stir occasionally. Stir in sour
    cream just before serving; heat through but do not boil. Serve over
    rice or mashed potatoes. One-quarter pound fresh mushrooms, sliced
    and sauted in butter, can be substituted for the canned mushrooms.
    Serve.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... Chips have little nutritional value so you need to eat the whole bag.
    --- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 11 16:47:02 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Remember that "American" cheese is, at bottom, a mild Cheddar.

    And I like sharp, the extra sharp even better. Unfortunatly it melted
    into the burger enough so that I couldn't scrape it off.

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers. I'm
    not sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over a
    chssesy one.

    You've met me; I'd rther have a plain burger (topped with pickle,
    tomato, lettuce and maybe a slice of onion.

    Wendy's is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the
    bargain in this time of high priced fats food.

    It's a rare stop for us; we prefer C-F-A or Popeye's--stopped at one of those in Fredericksburg on Sunday. Yesterday was the 49th anniversary
    of a special date for us so we went out for seafood (which we'd done on that day).

    Didja get the flounder sandwich or the shrimp basket? I'm not a fan of

    No, the Wendy's stop was a separate one from the seafood one. Got shrimp
    and grits att the seafood place, a regular burger (didn't realise it
    came with cheese) at Wendy's. They used to do them to order as you ordered--many years ago.

    crispy or the DD> (newish) blackened.

    I'm not a fan of blackened foods.

    to remember that if we go to Wendy's again. I also tried their RH>
    peppermint frosty--mild peppermint taste, no bits of candy in it and a
    pepto-bismo pink color. I'd rather have an Arby's Andes mint shake
    (first choice) or Chick-Fil-A's peppermint shake (2nd choice).

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    ever had at fast food place that I like other than chocolate was one
    time I was riding with my brother and he pulled into a Hardee's. I
    asked for, as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage selection.
    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Sounds good. I know C-F-A does them also.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap.
    In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    Agreed but I can tolerate the concentrator.

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I can see that; I've got a 20' tube (mostly rolled up, about 8' of
    actual length) on my home machine. Since it's so noisy, we keep it
    outside the bedroom and just run the long tubing to my side of the bed.
    My travel machine is quieter so we just put an 8' tube on that. It rides
    mostly in the camper but has gone on other trips (Alaska, Utah, New
    York) with us.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near
    impossible DD> to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging".
    And I've come DD> through with some vision damage. Going to have to get
    new prescriptions DD> for my glasses

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Started back to work yesterday. Going to have to get used to that
    again.

    Unless you decide to become a gentleman of leisure.


    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense.
    Somehow I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some
    minority in a hate crime.

    Some sport (indoor range) but self defense if needed.

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to
    slide down a slippery slope.

    Understandable.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James
    accountant/ bookkeepers so I have to wait until Monday morn to make
    an appointment.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    I've still got most of my teeth--no wisdom teeth and one of my molars
    was being reabsorbed from the inside some years ago so it was taken out.
    Hasn't affected my chewing any.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 11 16:58:52 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I don't remember if I posted this already or not. But it's a neat
    and tasty way to deal with the glut of leftovers ,,,,

    Title: Thanksgiving Leftovers Hot Pockets
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese, Poultry
    Yield: 6 pockets

    I don't recall seeing it but it's a nice change from just reheated left overs. I might try it using a bread dough (mix some up in the ABM)
    base.

    That should fork. Or you could mix up a pizza dough.

    Probably, either way I'd probably use the bread machine.

    This is said to freeze well ....


    Title: Pizza Dough in Bread Machine
    Categories: Breads, Pizza
    Yield: 1 Pizza

    2/3 c Water
    2 ts Olive oil
    1 ts Honey
    1 c A-P flour
    1 c Whole wheat flour
    3/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 ts Active dry yeast
    Cornmeal for baking pan

    I'd use all whole wheat flour and sub almond meal for the corn meal. I
    know not that much is used but since we try to avoid anything having
    corn in it for Steve's sake.................

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... A mind stretched by new ideas can never go back to its original size.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 12 12:06:28 2023
    Hello, Ruth!

    Replying to a message of Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum:

    You've met me; I'd rther have a plain burger (topped with pickle,
    tomato, lettuce and maybe a slice of onion.

    That's one thing I miss on my burgers: a nice slice of freshly-cut red onion!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old-Fashioned Mac 'n' Cheese
    Categories: Main dish, Low-cal, Pasta
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 1/2 c Elbow macaroni
    4 tb Butter or margarine, divided
    1/4 c All-purpose flour
    3 c Milk
    1 ts Dry mustard
    3/4 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Freshly ground pepper
    1 pn Ground red pepper
    1 1/2 c Shredded sharp Cheddar
    -cheese
    1/4 c Freshly grated Parmesan
    -cheese
    1/3 c Plain dry bread crumbs

    1. Heat oven to 375 B0F. Cook macaroni in boiling salted water in
    large saucepan just until tender, 8 minutes. Drain in colander and
    rinse under cold water.

    2. Meanwhile, melt 2 tablespoons butter in large saucepan over medium
    heat. Stir in flour and cook, stirring, 1 minute. Gradually whisk in
    milk, mustard, salt and peppers. Bring to boil, whisking. Boil 1
    minute. Remove from heat and whisk in cheeses until melted and
    smooth. Stir in drained macaroni. Pour into shallow 2-quart baking
    dish. Melt remaining 2 tablespoons butter, stir in bread crumbs and
    sprinkle over macaroni. Bake 30 minutes. Let stand 10 minutes before
    serving. Makes 8 servings.

    PER SERVING: Calories 310, Total Fat 17.5 g, Saturated Fat 10.5 g,
    Cholesterol 53 mg, Sodium 617 mg, Carbohydrates 26 g, Protein 13 g,
    Calcium 321 mg, Fiber 1 g

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    --- FleetStreet 1.27.1
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Blue White on Tue Dec 12 23:40:20 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Since we both live in the South...

    Coon is one game meat I have never tried before. I have had ground deer in chili, deer balogna, moose pot roast, roast duck, and bear. Bear is the only one I did not really care for. I am surprised, but I have never knowningly had squirrel, even though I have had friends who hunt them for food.

    Nutria is like a giant rat. Very nutritious, and also tasty.
    Can be served in a number of ways, including ground to make as
    hamburgers. Your guests would never know what they had been
    eating ...

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    Gas the Jews!

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    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Tue Dec 12 23:40:34 2023
    The bacon and ham, OTOH, always smelled delicious! :D

    I worked for a bit slaughtering animals and eating meat still doesn't bother me. It's like how I love chorizo; my mom asked me once if I knew what was in it and I responded "yes and I still like it anyway".

    Coon is one game meat I have never tried before. I have had ground
    deer in chili, deer balogna, moose pot roast, roast duck, and bear.
    Bear is the only one I did not really care for. I am surprised, but
    I
    have never knowningly had squirrel, even though I have had friends
    who
    hunt them for food.

    I've had deer (yum), duck (yum), and squirrel (stringy). Venison is my favorite by far.

    I've had alligator, water buffalo, and possum.
    Rat is my favorite by miles.

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    Birruh Biddam Nahdika, Ya Aqsa.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 13 06:41:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And I like sharp, the extra sharp even better. Unfortunatly it melted
    into the burger enough so that I couldn't scrape it off.

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers. I'm
    not sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over a
    chssesy one.

    You've met me; I'd rther have a plain burger (topped with pickle,
    tomato, lettuce and maybe a slice of onion.

    How does it feel to be in a monority? Bv)= My favoured burger toppings
    are Tomato, Mayonnaise (never Miracle Wimp) and Onion. Oh. and bacon.

    Mustard if fine on other things but not my burger. And ketchup is for
    French fries that are badly done when there's no Tartar Sauce to be had.

    Wendy's is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the
    bargain in this time of high priced fats food.

    It's a rare stop for us; we prefer C-F-A or Popeye's--stopped at one of those in Fredericksburg on Sunday. Yesterday was the 49th anniversary
    of a special date for us so we went out for seafood (which we'd done on that day).

    Didja get the flounder sandwich or the shrimp basket? I'm not a fan of

    No, the Wendy's stop was a separate one from the seafood one. Got

    I was referencing Popeyes (no apostrophe) when asking about flounder
    as that is featured as its fish sandwich and they have several shrimp offerings.

    shrimp and grits att the seafood place, a regular burger (didn't
    realise it came with cheese) at Wendy's. They used to do them to order
    as you ordered--many years ago.

    They still do. Depends on which burger you order. .... Ooooopsie. Went
    to look at Wendy's menu to see which burgers come without cheese. And
    found only one poor little Jr. Single down at the bottom of the list.

    crispy or the DD> (newish) blackened.

    I'm not a fan of blackened foods.

    My jury is still out ob blackened. But I'm leaning in your direction.

    to remember that if we go to Wendy's again. I also tried their
    peppermint frosty--mild peppermint taste, no bits of candy in it
    and a pepto-bismo pink color. I'd rather have an Arby's Andes
    mint shake (first choice) or Chick-Fil-A's peppermint shake
    (2nd choice).

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    ever had at fast food place that I like other than chocolate was one
    time I was riding with my brother and he pulled into a Hardee's. I
    asked for, as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage selection.
    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Sounds good. I know C-F-A does them also.

    Wendy's ain't my place for shakes. The "Frosty" is too thick to drink
    (like DQ's "Blizzard") so it's hard to manage whilst driving.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap.
    In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    Agreed but I can tolerate the concentrator.

    As in oxygen concentrator? I have a portable one of those with both 12V
    and 110V chargers. It's handy, if a bit bulky. I take it to work with me
    and if I'm going to a restaurant. It's good for a bit over an hour before needing the batteries charged.

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I can see that; I've got a 20' tube (mostly rolled up, about 8' of
    actual length) on my home machine. Since it's so noisy, we keep it
    outside the bedroom and just run the long tubing to my side of the bed.
    My travel machine is quieter so we just put an 8' tube on that. It
    rides mostly in the camper but has gone on other trips (Alaska, Utah,
    New York) with us.

    My C-PAP is pretty quiet. So that's not a worry. The whole thing came in "travel bag" packaging so I assume I could take it on the road should the
    need arise.

    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've
    come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    8<----- SPLIT HERE ----->8

    Continued in Part Deux

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 13 06:43:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Visited the ophthalmologist yesterday to see what, if anything, was
    messed up ... as well as my annual diabetic retinal scan. Found I have
    an (minor) eye infection in my left eye and a cataract in my right eye.

    Meanwhile the vision has come back - distance and mid-range. Bt I'm
    going to have to have corrective lenses for near vision for the first
    time in my 81 years.

    Started back to work yesterday. Going to have to get used to that
    again.

    Unless you decide to become a gentleman of leisure.

    It gets me out and about. Besides the money I make helping oad out my
    SSI cheques. Plus, I genuinely enjoy helping people. So, whilst it's a
    job it's not really work.

    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense.
    Somehow I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some
    minority in a hate crime.

    Some sport (indoor range) but self defense if needed.

    I used to hunt small game for food and pest control (woodchucks) and I
    was on my school's rifle team. Shot expert in boot camp - both rifle (Springfield '03) and pistol (M1911 .45 calibre)

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to
    slide down a slippery slope.

    Understandable.

    I don't even own a gun these days. Sold my last rifle to a collector
    for major $$$$.

    I'm changing ophthalmologists due to Prairie Eye's Jesse James
    accountant/ bookkeepers so I have to wait until Monday morn to make
    an appointment.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    I've still got most of my teeth--no wisdom teeth and one of my molars
    was being reabsorbed from the inside some years ago so it was taken
    out. Hasn't affected my chewing any.

    My only hassles with the China Clippers is when I get qa seed or popcorn
    hull under a plate. Thar requires a trip to the "facility" as I consider whipping out your teeth in company to be both gauche and gross.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Country-Style Groundhog
    Categories: Game
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 Young groundhog
    1/2 c Flour
    1/4 ts (ea) salt & pepper
    1/4 ts Soda
    1/4 c Cooking oil
    1/2 ts Sugar

    NOTE: Clean and skin as soon as possible. Remove all
    scent glands. Cut off head, feet and tail.

    Dress groundhog as for rabbit, removing the small sacs
    in the back and under the forearm. Soak groundhog over-
    night in salted water to remove wild flavor. (Or not,
    the groundhog is a vegan and not very "gamy" at all -
    UDD)

    Combine flour, salt, pepper and soda; rub into groundhog
    pieces.

    Brown grounhog in hot oil in skillet; sprinkle with
    sugar. Reduce heat; add 1/2 cup water.

    Cover; simmer for about 30 minutes or until tender.

    Remove cover; cook for 10 minutes longer.

    From: http://www.hevanet.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... I do eat porridge but it's a grueling experience.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 13 06:44:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don't remember if I posted this already or not. But it's a neat
    and tasty way to deal with the glut of leftovers ,,,,

    Title: Thanksgiving Leftovers Hot Pockets
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese, Poultry
    Yield: 6 pockets

    I don't recall seeing it but it's a nice change from just reheated
    left overs. I might try it using a bread dough (mix some up in the
    ABM) base.

    That should fork. Or you could mix up a pizza dough.

    Probably, either way I'd probably use the bread machine.

    The bread machine is a very handy tool. I have a high dollar stand mixer
    with dough hook, etc. which sits mostly unused on my counter - taking
    up space and needing dusted every so often. Thinking back .... the last
    times I have had that mixer to the fore and actually used it have been
    to make a cake for a special occasion.

    This is said to freeze well ....

    Title: Pizza Dough in Bread Machine
    Categories: Breads, Pizza
    Yield: 1 Pizza

    8<----- TRUNCATED ----->8

    I'd use all whole wheat flour and sub almond meal for the corn meal. I know not that much is used but since we try to avoid anything having
    corn in it for Steve's sake.................

    The cornmeal is as a no-stick. I'd bet you could use Panko bread crumbs as
    well as your ground almonds.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Irresistible Chocolate Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Chocolate, Pudding, Dairy
    Yield: 10 Servings

    18 1/4 oz Box chocolate cake mix
    3 1/2 oz Box instant chocolate
    - pudding mix
    4 lg Eggs
    2 ts (to 3 ts) instant coffee
    - granules
    +=DISSOLVED IN=+
    3/4 c Warm water
    1/2 c Oil
    1/2 c Dairy sour cream

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC. Lightly grease and flour a 12
    cup fluted tube (Bundt) pan; set aside.

    To prepare cake, combine cake mix, pudding mix, eggs,
    coffee mixture, oil and sour cream in a large bowl;
    beat on high speed for 2 minutes. Pour into the
    prepared pan.

    Bake for 40 minutes or until a toothpick inserted in
    cake comes out clean; cool 10 minutes.

    Invert cake onto serving plate. Cool completely. Spread
    with icing (your choice - I like chocolate).

    Source: Recipe card from Grandma's Kitchen, MM
    Publications Int'l, Ltd.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Dec 13 13:08:20 2023
    Hi Sean,

    Replying to a message of Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum:

    You've met me; I'd rther have a plain burger (topped with pickle,
    tomato, lettuce and maybe a slice of onion.

    That's one thing I miss on my burgers: a nice slice of freshly-cut red onion!

    I can go either way with onion, sometimes I'll take it, other times
    leave it off.


    Title: Old-Fashioned Mac 'n' Cheese
    Categories: Main dish, Low-cal, Pasta
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 1/2 c Elbow macaroni
    4 tb Butter or margarine, divided
    1/4 c All-purpose flour
    3 c Milk
    1 ts Dry mustard

    Instead of the dry mustard, I use a good squirt of spicy brown mustard
    when I make the cheese sauce. Not enough to overpower the cheese but to
    add just a bit of a different flavor. Works best with whole wheat pasta.

    3/4 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Freshly ground pepper
    1 pn Ground red pepper
    1 1/2 c Shredded sharp Cheddar
    -cheese
    1/4 c Freshly grated Parmesan
    -cheese
    1/3 c Plain dry bread crumbs

    1. Heat oven to 375 B0F. Cook macaroni in boiling salted water in
    large saucepan just until tender, 8 minutes. Drain in colander and
    rinse under cold water.

    2. Meanwhile, melt 2 tablespoons butter in large saucepan over
    medium heat. Stir in flour and cook, stirring, 1 minute. Gradually
    whisk in
    milk, mustard, salt and peppers. Bring to boil, whisking. Boil 1
    minute. Remove from heat and whisk in cheeses until melted and
    smooth. Stir in drained macaroni. Pour into shallow 2-quart baking
    dish. Melt remaining 2 tablespoons butter, stir in bread crumbs and
    sprinkle over macaroni. Bake 30 minutes. Let stand 10 minutes before
    serving. Makes 8 servings.

    I do mine the fast and easy way--cook the macaroni, drain but do not
    rinse, put it in a microwaveable dish. In the same pot, make your cheese
    sauce (I do it by eye), then pour it over the macaroni. Stir well,
    reheat to equalise temperatures in the microwave. I started doing this
    after getting my first microwave; it only dirtys up one pot and puts
    lunch on the table fast when you have little ones or a busy schedule.





    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 13 13:19:09 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers. I'm
    not sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over a
    chssesy one.

    You've met me; I'd rther have a plain burger (topped with pickle,
    tomato, lettuce and maybe a slice of onion.

    How does it feel to be in a monority? Bv)= My favoured burger

    I am in other respects too--left handed for one.

    toppings are Tomato, Mayonnaise (never Miracle Wimp) and Onion. Oh.
    and bacon.

    Never Miracle Whip; don't even let the stuff come into my house. For the
    past few years we've been using an all natural avocado oil based mayo,
    bought at either Sam's Club or Wegman's. I still like Duke's but they
    started adding BhT to their mayo a while ago so found this as an
    alternative.

    Mustard if fine on other things but not my burger. And ketchup is

    Agreed, mustard doesn't belong on a burger.

    for DD> French fries that are badly done when there's no Tartar Sauce
    to be DD> had.

    I prefer my fries with a bit of salt or malt vinegar.


    Wendy's is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the
    bargain in this time of high priced fats food.

    It's a rare stop for us; we prefer C-F-A or Popeye's--stopped at one of those in Fredericksburg on Sunday. Yesterday was the 49th anniversary
    of a special date for us so we went out for seafood (which we'd done on that day).

    Didja get the flounder sandwich or the shrimp basket? I'm not a fan of

    No, the Wendy's stop was a separate one from the seafood one. Got

    I was referencing Popeyes (no apostrophe) when asking about flounder
    as that is featured as its fish sandwich and they have several shrimp offerings.

    No, we go there for the chicken. Steve had some Bojangles chicken
    recently and said that Popeyes is much better but the BoBerry biscuit is
    better than the Popeyes plain biscuit.

    shrimp and grits at the seafood place, a regular burger (didn't
    realise it came with cheese) at Wendy's. They used to do them to
    order RH> as you ordered--many years ago.

    They still do. Depends on which burger you order. .... Ooooopsie. Went
    to look at Wendy's menu to see which burgers come without cheese. And found only one poor little Jr. Single down at the bottom of the list.

    Have to remember that if we go again.

    crispy or the DD> (newish) blackened.

    I'm not a fan of blackened foods.

    My jury is still out ob blackened. But I'm leaning in your direction.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    time I was riding with my brother and he pulled into a Hardee's. I
    asked for, as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage selection.
    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Sounds good. I know C-F-A does them also.

    Cook Out around here is known for their large variety (I think 40 some)
    of shakes but they're take out only so we've not tried them.

    Wendy's ain't my place for shakes. The "Frosty" is too thick to
    drink DD> (like DQ's "Blizzard") so it's hard to manage whilst driving.

    True, but we either go in and sit down or just sit in the vehicle until
    done. My favorite Blizzard is the mint M&M.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap.
    In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    Agreed but I can tolerate the concentrator.

    As in oxygen concentrator? I have a portable one of those with both
    12V and 110V chargers. It's handy, if a bit bulky. I take it to work
    with me and if I'm going to a restaurant. It's good for a bit over an
    hour before needing the batteries charged.

    Yes, an O2 concentrator, sits on the floor. I need it only at night, a cotinuous flow. Bought an extra battery for the portable but generally
    run it off of AC.

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I can see that; I've got a 20' tube (mostly rolled up, about 8' of
    actual length) on my home machine. Since it's so noisy, we keep it
    outside the bedroom and just run the long tubing to my side of the bed.
    My travel machine is quieter so we just put an 8' tube on that. It
    rides mostly in the camper but has gone on other trips (Alaska, Utah,
    New York) with us.

    My C-PAP is pretty quiet. So that's not a worry. The whole thing came
    in "travel bag" packaging so I assume I could take it on the road
    should the need arise.

    Yes, Steve has taken his to Israel and Guiana as well as shipboard 3
    times and numberous other flying and driving trips. It's a lot smaller
    and quieter than the concentrator.


    I don't know yet what was wrong with me - it may have been nerve
    related. I had synapses firing randomly making my body parts twitch
    and jump and making it really hard to type and darned near impossible
    to text. My head was swollen and my eyes were "bulging". And I've
    come through with some vision damage. Going to have to get new prescriptions for my glasses

    8<----- SPLIT HERE ----->8

    Continued in Part Deux


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 13 13:37:39 2023
    Hi Dave,


    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Visited the ophthalmologist yesterday to see what, if anything, was
    messed up ... as well as my annual diabetic retinal scan. Found I have
    an (minor) eye infection in my left eye and a cataract in my right
    eye.

    So, more visits to the eye doctors. Cataracts are a simple surgery these
    days; I had both of my eyes done in 2020. Steve will probably have one
    eye done next year, not sure about the 2nd one.


    Meanwhile the vision has come back - distance and mid-range. Bt I'm
    going to have to have corrective lenses for near vision for the first
    time in my 81 years.

    Started back to work yesterday. Going to have to get used to that
    again.

    Unless you decide to become a gentleman of leisure.

    It gets me out and about. Besides the money I make helping oad out my
    SSI cheques. Plus, I genuinely enjoy helping people. So, whilst it's a
    job it's not really work.

    All important reasons. My sewing income is very sporadic; I call it my
    "Pin Money", not needed to keep the household running and food on the
    table. Steve gets military retirement, disability and Social Security;
    I just get the Social Security as steady income.


    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense.
    Somehow I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some
    minority in a hate crime.

    Some sport (indoor range) but self defense if needed.

    I used to hunt small game for food and pest control (woodchucks) and I
    was on my school's rifle team. Shot expert in boot camp - both rifle (Springfield '03) and pistol (M1911 .45 calibre)

    I'll get back into shooting well--have only done target shooting. My
    family wasn't into hunting tho my younger brother tried it for a while.
    I believe he only got one deer in years of trying and one bear--with his
    truck. Dad had friends that hunted (including the man that developed the
    Hunter Safety course) and every so often, one would drop off some
    venison for us.

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to
    slide down a slippery slope.

    Understandable.

    I don't even own a gun these days. Sold my last rifle to a collector
    for major $$$$.

    Must have been a good one--a Henry? One of the guns Steve inherited from
    his father is a flintlock.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    I've still got most of my teeth--no wisdom teeth and one of my molars
    was being reabsorbed from the inside some years ago so it was taken
    out. Hasn't affected my chewing any.

    My only hassles with the China Clippers is when I get qa seed or
    popcorn hull under a plate. Thar requires a trip to the "facility" as
    I consider whipping out your teeth in company to be both gauche and
    gross.

    I know, I think most people do respect others and remove themselves from
    the presence of people before taking their teeth out. My mom had several bridges, dad had one or two also but they always kept them in except for cleaning. It always looked like they had a full mouth of real teeth
    until you looked closer and saw the hardware.


    Title: Country-Style Groundhog
    Categories: Game
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Kill one and 7 come to its funeral according to John Burroughs. Don't
    see many around here but used to see a lot where I grew up. Hmmmm, come
    to think about it, haven't seen so many up there recently.


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 13 13:54:44 2023
    Hi Dave,

    That should fork. Or you could mix up a pizza dough.

    Probably, either way I'd probably use the bread machine.

    The bread machine is a very handy tool. I have a high dollar stand
    mixer with dough hook, etc. which sits mostly unused on my counter - taking
    up space and needing dusted every so often. Thinking back .... the
    last times I have had that mixer to the fore and actually used it have been
    to make a cake for a special occasion.

    I have a Kitchen Aide Professional mixer (thanks to Janis who let us try
    her's) and use it quite often. Got several attachments, including the
    pasta maker but the whisk, dough hook and regular paddles get the
    biggest use. Also have a Zojuroushi bread machine that doesn't get used
    much at all.

    Categories: Breads, Pizza
    Yield: 1 Pizza

    8<----- TRUNCATED ----->8

    I'd use all whole wheat flour and sub almond meal for the corn meal. I know not that much is used but since we try to avoid anything having
    corn in it for Steve's sake.................

    The cornmeal is as a no-stick. I'd bet you could use Panko bread
    crumbs as well as your ground almonds.

    Probably so; the almonds are the left over from when Steve makes almond
    milk. He dries the residue, then grinds it into flour.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 15 07:29:21 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I like all Cheddars. And the taste/texture that add to burgers.
    I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who prefers a plain burger over
    a chssesy one.

    You've met me; I'd rther have a plain burger (topped with pickle,
    tomato, lettuce and maybe a slice of onion.

    How does it feel to be in a minority? Bv)= My favoured burger

    I am in other respects too--left handed for one.

    toppings are Tomato, Mayonnaise (never Miracle Wimp) and Onion. Oh.
    and bacon.

    Never Miracle Whip; don't even let the stuff come into my house. For
    the past few years we've been using an all natural avocado oil based
    mayo, bought at either Sam's Club or Wegman's. I still like Duke's but they started adding BhT to their mayo a while ago so found this as an alternative.

    That sent me to my Bing search engine. BhT is "Butylated hydroxytoluene
    (BHT), also known as dibutylhydroxytoluene, is a lipophilic organic
    compound ... ^^^^^^^

    So, it's organic and not some laboratory "Frankenfood"

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery. If
    I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't remember the last
    time I bought Kraft mayo.

    Mustard if fine on other things but not my burger. And ketchup is

    Agreed, mustard doesn't belong on a burger.

    for rench fries that are badly done when there's no Tartar Sauce
    to be had.

    I prefer my fries with a bit of salt or malt vinegar.

    Salt is a must - either the real stuff or the Nu-Salt (potassium based
    rather than sodium based). I stock malt vineger in my cupboards but it's
    mostly used on fish reather than fries.

    Wendy's is a regular stop for me. The $5 Biggie Bag is quite the
    bargain in this time of high priced fats food.

    It's a rare stop for us; we prefer C-F-A or Popeye's--stopped at one of those in Fredericksburg on Sunday. Yesterday was the 49th anniversary
    of a special date for us so we went out for seafood (which we'd done on that day).

    Didja get the flounder sandwich or the shrimp basket? I'm not a fan of

    No, the Wendy's stop was a separate one from the seafood one. Got

    I was referencing Popeyes (no apostrophe) when asking about flounder
    as that is featured as its fish sandwich and they have several shrimp offerings.

    No, we go there for the chicken. Steve had some Bojangles chicken
    recently and said that Popeyes is much better but the BoBerry biscuit
    is better than the Popeyes plain biscuit.

    I'm not a fan of Popeyes fish sandwich. And I leave the shrimp with them
    unless it's a *very* special offering. And I leave their fries behind as
    well - opting instead for mashed potatoes w/Cajun gravy. But mostly I keep
    to the chicken (dark meat preferred) offerings.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    time I was riding with my brother and he pulled into a Hardee's. I
    asked for, as a joke, a peach milkshake as my beverage selection.
    Surprise - that's what came out the window. And it was guite tasty.

    Sounds good. I know C-F-A does them also.

    Cook Out around here is known for their large variety (I think 40 some)
    of shakes but they're take out only so we've not tried them.

    Wendy's ain't my place for shakes. The "Frosty" is too thick to
    drink (like DQ's "Blizzard") so it's hard to manage whilst driving.

    True, but we either go in and sit down or just sit in the vehicle until done. My favorite Blizzard is the mint M&M.

    I think Dairy Queen has their shakes almot "right" for drinking and
    driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Oh, I've got a C-Pap as well. I told them where to stick the Bi-Pap.
    In the end, whether it's C-Pap or Bi-Pap both are a PITA.

    Agreed but I can tolerate the concentrator.

    As in oxygen concentrator? I have a portable one of those with both
    12V and 110V chargers. It's handy, if a bit bulky. I take it to work
    with me and if I'm going to a restaurant. It's good for a bit over an
    hour before needing the batteries charged.

    Yes, an O2 concentrator, sits on the floor. I need it only at night, a cotinuous flow. Bought an extra battery for the portable but generally
    run it off of AC.

    I have the cannulae up my snoot any time I am home. Doesn't running the portable concentrator off of AC severely limit its "portablility"? My
    plug-in, floor-standing concentrator sits in the middle of the house, up against a wall, with enough green tubing to let me go anywhere I need to
    get to.

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I can see that; I've got a 20' tube (mostly rolled up, about 8' of
    actual length) on my home machine. Since it's so noisy, we keep it
    outside the bedroom and just run the long tubing to my side of the bed.
    My travel machine is quieter so we just put an 8' tube on that. It
    rides mostly in the camper but has gone on other trips (Alaska, Utah,
    New York) with us.

    My C-PAP is pretty quiet. So that's not a worry. The whole thing came
    in "travel bag" packaging so I assume I could take it on the road
    should the need arise.

    Yes, Steve has taken his to Israel and Guiana as well as shipboard 3
    times and numberous other flying and driving trips. It's a lot smaller
    and quieter than the concentrator.

    Well, yeahhhh. And a lot lighter, too.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Chicken Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Breads, Herbs, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 Boned, skinned chicken
    - breasts
    1 1/2 c A-P flour
    1/4 c Baking powder
    2 1/2 ts Salt
    1 3/4 ts MSG (Acent)
    1/2 ts Ground white pepper
    1/4 ts Ground black pepper
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper; or more
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    =+OR+=
    1/2 ts Garlic granules
    1 lj Egg; beaten
    1 1/2 c Buttermilk
    Oil for frying
    4 Brioche buns
    4 tb Salted butter; softened
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    12 sl (to 16) dill pickle

    MMMMM---------------------SPICY MAYONNAISE---------------------------
    1/2 ts Hot sauce
    1/2 ts Paprika
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    1/8 ts Ground cayenne

    In a large bowl, combine 1 cup buttermilk, 2 teaspoons
    salt, and 1 teaspoon MSG and whisk until they're well
    mixed.

    Trim off the thin, tapered end of the chicken and
    butterfly each breast, slicing it in half crosswise to
    create four fillets that are roughly 1/2 inch thick.

    Add the chicken to the brine and cover it with a piece
    of plastic wrap. Place the bowl in the refrigerator for
    four hours.

    Make the breading in a large bowl by combining the
    flour, baking powder, remaining salt, remaining MSG,
    white pepper, black pepper, cayenne pepper, and garlic
    powder.

    In a separate bowl, beat together the egg and
    buttermilk.

    In a large Dutch oven or wok, heat 3" of oil over
    medium-high heat. If you're using an electric tabletop
    fryer, fill the unit to its MAX line. When the oil
    reaches 325ºF/165ºC, reduce the heat to medium-low.

    Remove the chicken from the brine and shake off any
    excess liquid. Dip the brined chicken into the flour
    mixture, pressing it lightly until the flour adheres.
    Dunk the chicken into the egg mixture before returning
    it to the flour mixture, pressing it down firmly into
    the flour. Toss the chicken around in the flour mixture
    a bit to create a craggly, bumpy flour coating.

    Shake off any excess flour and carefully drop the
    chicken into the hot oil. Be careful not to overcrowd
    the fryer. Depending on the size of your fryer, you
    should be able to fry two to four chicken pieces at a
    time.

    Fry the chicken until it's golden brown and crispy on
    all sides, 8 to 10 minutes, and a meat thermometer
    probed to the center of the chicken reads 165ºF/74ºC

    Remove the chicken to a paper towel-lined plate and
    allow the oil to come back up to temperature before
    frying the rest of the chicken.

    Meanwhile, heat a cast iron skillet or saute pan over
    medium-high heat. Butter the insides of each top and
    bottom bun with 1/2 tablespoon of butter. Place the buns
    butter-side down on the skillet and cook until they're
    golden brown and toasted, about 2 minutes.

    Make the sandwiches by coating the bottom and top bun
    with 1/2 tablespoon of mayonnaise. For spicy mayonnaise,
    combine the mayo, hot sauce, paprika, garlic powder, and
    cayenne before spreading it on the bun.

    Add three or four pickles to the bottom bun (optional)
    and top it with the fried chicken. Finish the sandwich
    by placing the top bun on top of the fried chicken.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mashed.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 15 07:31:13 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    But it's good to see you back. I see my eye doctor next week, shouldn't need a new perscription but want to ask about safety glasses for
    shooting.

    Visited the ophthalmologist yesterday to see what, if anything, was
    messed up ... as well as my annual diabetic retinal scan. Found I have
    an (minor) eye infection in my left eye and a cataract in my right
    eye.

    So, more visits to the eye doctors. Cataracts are a simple surgery
    these days; I had both of my eyes done in 2020. Steve will probably
    have one eye done next year, not sure about the 2nd one.

    I know. For my first (left eye) cataract I was in "twilight" anasthesia
    and could see and hear what was happening. I reversed what many do and
    asked for a "close up" lens rather than long distance. I've worn glasses
    since I was 14 for myopia. And since they were'nt doing both (two years
    ago) I'd have had schizophrenic glasses. Bv)=

    Meanwhile the vision has come back - distance and mid-range. Bt I'm
    going to have to have corrective lenses for near vision for the first
    time in my 81 years.

    Started back to work yesterday. Going to have to get used to that
    again.

    Unless you decide to become a gentleman of leisure.

    It gets me out and about. Besides the money I make helping oad out my
    SSI cheques. Plus, I genuinely enjoy helping people. So, whilst it's a
    job it's not really work.

    All important reasons. My sewing income is very sporadic; I call it my "Pin Money", not needed to keep the household running and food on the table. Steve gets military retirement, disability and Social Security;
    I just get the Social Security as steady income.

    I just have SSI and what I make at the Zone. My brother, on the other
    hoof gets SSI, union (Pipefitters) pension as well as a school board
    pension. And his wife get SSI and a school board pension. They are
    very "comfortable". Bv)=

    Going to go hunting/foraging for food or just for seld defense.
    Somehow I can't imagine you shooting for sport or attacking some
    minority in a hate crime.

    Some sport (indoor range) but self defense if needed.

    I used to hunt small game for food and pest control (woodchucks) and I
    was on my school's rifle team. Shot expert in boot camp - both rifle (Springfield '03) and pistol (M1911 .45 calibre)

    I'll get back into shooting well--have only done target shooting. My family wasn't into hunting tho my younger brother tried it for a while.
    I believe he only got one deer in years of trying and one bear--with
    his truck. Dad had friends that hunted (including the man that
    developed the Hunter Safety course) and every so often, one would drop
    off some venison for us.

    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to
    slide down a slippery slope.

    Understandable.

    I don't even own a gun these days. Sold my last rifle to a collector
    for major $$$$.

    Must have been a good one--a Henry? One of the guns Steve inherited
    from his father is a flintlock.

    Follow on to the Henry "Yellow Boy" - a Winchester kever action in .32/40 calibre.

    So now I find that I have to get a referral from my optometrist due to
    one of their silly rules.

    Always a catch with insurance. Our dentist dropped the level of care we had for our insurance so we're switching providers to keep that level. Don't really want to change dentists and he takes the new one at the
    level we want so................

    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    I've still got most of my teeth--no wisdom teeth and one of my molars
    was being reabsorbed from the inside some years ago so it was taken
    out. Hasn't affected my chewing any.

    My only hassles with the China Clippers is when I get qa seed or
    popcorn hull under a plate. Thar requires a trip to the "facility" as
    I consider whipping out your teeth in company to be both gauche and
    gross.

    I know, I think most people do respect others and remove themselves
    from the presence of people before taking their teeth out. My mom had several bridges, dad had one or two also but they always kept them in except for cleaning. It always looked like they had a full mouth of
    real teeth until you looked closer and saw the hardware.

    Never had braces or a bridge. Went straight to falsies.

    Title: Country-Style Groundhog
    Categories: Game
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Kill one and 7 come to its funeral according to John Burroughs. Don't
    see many around here but used to see a lot where I grew up. Hmmmm, come
    to think about it, haven't seen so many up there recently.

    They were thick on our farm. They and the raccoons could do major damage
    to a field of corn. Granddad used to use leg traps to catch the unwary.
    One of our daily things was to check the trap line and he's dipatch the
    catch with his pistol then reset the snare. One day we started around
    the corner of the corn crib and he stopped short. Tald me, "Run back to
    the house and bring me the rifle." Seems there was a skunk in the trap.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: French Fried Skunk
    Categories: Game, Dairy, Chilies
    Yield: 5 Servings

    2 Skunks; skinned, cleaned
    1 tb Salt
    Water to cover
    2 c Bear fat or lard
    2 Egg yolks; beaten
    3 c Milk or cream
    1 1/2 c Flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 ts Cayenne
    2 tb Baking powder

    Clean and wash the skunks, making sure that the scent glands
    are removed. Cut up into small serving pieces.

    Put a soup kettle on the stove and add the meat. Cover with
    cold water and bring to a boil over high heat. Lower the heat
    and boil until the meat is tender, about 40 min. Remove all
    the scum that rises to the surface.

    Make a batter by mixing together the egg yolks, milk, flour,
    salt, cayenne and baking powder. Mix real good until the
    batter is about like cake batter.

    Heat the bear fat or lard in a deep fryer to about 360ºF.
    Dip the pieces of skunk in the batter and then fry them
    until golden brown. Drain well and serve. Yum, yum.

    Recipe By: "Indian Cookin'" - Herb Walker

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RUTH HAFFLY on Fri Dec 15 09:05:00 2023
    That's one thing I miss on my burgers: a nice slice of freshly-cut red onion!

    I can go either way with onion, sometimes I'll take it, other times
    leave it off.

    I love onions but have learned it is best to lay off of them the later in
    the day it gets. After lunch, they get left off.

    Unfortunately, tomatoes and tomato sauce have joined that club. Maybe I
    need to start eating supper for breakfast and breakfast for supper. :D


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Dec 15 15:18:00 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to RUTH HAFFLY <=-

    Unfortunately, tomatoes and tomato sauce have joined that club. Maybe
    I need to start eating supper for breakfast and breakfast for supper.

    I can eat breakfast for any meal of the day.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Time Fudge
    Categories: Christmas, Candy, Great, Marie
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 c Sugar
    1 c Whipping cream
    3 oz Chocolate, unsweetened
    1 ds Salt
    2 ts Corn syrup
    3 tb Butter
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla
    3/4 c Pecans

    Use a 3 qt pan. Butter sides of the pan. Combine sugar, cream,
    chocolate, salt and the corn syrup. Heat over medium heat. Stir
    constantly until the sugar dissolves, the chocolate melts and mix
    comes to boiling. Cook to soft-ball (234~). Stir only if necessary.

    Immediately remove from the heat. Add the butter, and cool to
    lukewarm (110~) without stirring.

    Add vanilla and pecans, beat until thick.

    Spread in a buttered shallow pan.

    Enjoy! Posted to MealMaster Recipes List, Digest #165

    Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:54:50 -0400

    From: leukie@usa.pipeline.com (Leukie@usa.pipeline.com)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to SEAN DENNIS on Sat Dec 16 09:46:00 2023
    Unfortunately, tomatoes and tomato sauce have joined that club. Maybe
    I need to start eating supper for breakfast and breakfast for supper.

    I can eat breakfast for any meal of the day.

    Yeah, so can I. In my case, though, if I reverse to breakfast in the
    evening, I had better stick to cereal. ;)

    Title: Old Time Fudge
    Categories: Christmas, Candy, Great, Marie
    Yield: 8 Servings

    Hmmm, that is one thing I miss around the holidays. My grandparents would
    make excellent fudge, usually chocolate and peanut butter. <drools>

    Mike

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 15 15:47:48 2023
    Hi Dave,

    toppings are Tomato, Mayonnaise (never Miracle Wimp) and Onion. Oh.
    and bacon.

    Never Miracle Whip; don't even let the stuff come into my house. For
    the past few years we've been using an all natural avocado oil based
    mayo, bought at either Sam's Club or Wegman's. I still like Duke's but they started adding BhT to their mayo a while ago so found this as an alternative.

    That sent me to my Bing search engine. BhT is "Butylated
    hydroxytoluene (BHT), also known as dibutylhydroxytoluene, is a
    lipophilic organic
    compound ... ^^^^^^^

    So, it's organic and not some laboratory "Frankenfood"

    Try to convince Steve that it's safe for foods.

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery.
    If DD> I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't remember
    the DD> last time I bought Kraft mayo.

    First time we lived in NC, it was my "go to" mayo. Moved away when Steve
    joined the Army and landed in TX about 15 months later. Thought I'd be
    able to get it there but it was a no go. My neighbor, from Georgia,
    brought back several jars when she went home for Christmas and wouldn't
    take anything for it.

    Mustard if fine on other things but not my burger. And ketchup is

    Agreed, mustard doesn't belong on a burger.

    for rench fries that are badly done when there's no Tartar Sauce
    to be had.

    I prefer my fries with a bit of salt or malt vinegar.

    Salt is a must - either the real stuff or the Nu-Salt (potassium based rather than sodium based). I stock malt vineger in my cupboards but
    it's mostly used on fish reather than fries.

    I tried the Nu-Salt but went back to NaCl when I found that salt didn't
    affect my blood pressure. At the time it didn't keep my potassium level
    up either.


    I was referencing Popeyes (no apostrophe) when asking about flounder
    as that is featured as its fish sandwich and they have several shrimp offerings.

    No, we go there for the chicken. Steve had some Bojangles chicken
    recently and said that Popeyes is much better but the BoBerry biscuit
    is better than the Popeyes plain biscuit.

    I'm not a fan of Popeyes fish sandwich. And I leave the shrimp with
    them unless it's a *very* special offering. And I leave their fries
    behind as well - opting instead for mashed potatoes w/Cajun gravy. But mostly I keep to the chicken (dark meat preferred) offerings.

    I used to like most fish sandwiches; some were better than others but
    never got one at Popeyes, usually McD's (hold the cheese!) or BK. Now,
    most often, I'll go for some form of chicken. My usual side at Popeyes
    is cole slaw.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    Wendy's ain't my place for shakes. The "Frosty" is too thick to
    drink (like DQ's "Blizzard") so it's hard to manage whilst driving.

    True, but we either go in and sit down or just sit in the vehicle until done. My favorite Blizzard is the mint M&M.

    I think Dairy Queen has their shakes almot "right" for drinking and driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first
    married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or
    twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I can see that; I've got a 20' tube (mostly rolled up, about 8' of
    actual length) on my home machine. Since it's so noisy, we keep it
    outside the bedroom and just run the long tubing to my side of the bed.
    My travel machine is quieter so we just put an 8' tube on that. It
    rides mostly in the camper but has gone on other trips (Alaska, Utah,
    New York) with us.

    My C-PAP is pretty quiet. So that's not a worry. The whole thing came
    in "travel bag" packaging so I assume I could take it on the road
    should the need arise.


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 15 16:01:54 2023
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<


    Yes, Steve has taken his to Israel and Guiana as well as shipboard 3
    times and numberous other flying and driving trips. It's a lot smaller
    and quieter than the concentrator.

    Well, yeahhhh. And a lot lighter, too.

    Verymuch so--and doesn't count when you fly so he can take a carry on,
    personal item and the C-PAP. It's the same with the concentrator.

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Chicken Sandwich DD> Categories:
    Poultry, Breads, Herbs, Chilies, Dairy DD> Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good but I'll make mine mild.


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 15 16:04:57 2023
    Hi Dave,


    So, more visits to the eye doctors. Cataracts are a simple surgery
    these days; I had both of my eyes done in 2020. Steve will probably
    have one eye done next year, not sure about the 2nd one.

    I know. For my first (left eye) cataract I was in "twilight"
    anasthesia and could see and hear what was happening. I reversed what
    many do and
    asked for a "close up" lens rather than long distance. I've worn
    glasses since I was 14 for myopia. And since they were'nt doing both
    (two years ago) I'd have had schizophrenic glasses. Bv)=

    I've worn glasses (mostly for the left eye) since I was 9. The right eye
    has always been almost perfect but they put in a bit of astigmatism
    correction as well as the bit to bring it to 20/20. When they did my
    cataracts, they did the right eye first so I could continue wearing my perscription glasses until the left eye was done. After the left eye was
    done, I had a couple weeks of them settling down before getting the
    readers, always had the 2.00 strength.


    Unless you decide to become a gentleman of leisure.

    It gets me out and about. Besides the money I make helping oad out my
    SSI cheques. Plus, I genuinely enjoy helping people. So, whilst it's a
    job it's not really work.

    All important reasons. My sewing income is very sporadic; I call it my "Pin Money", not needed to keep the household running and food on the table. Steve gets military retirement, disability and Social Security;
    I just get the Social Security as steady income.

    I just have SSI and what I make at the Zone. My brother, on the other
    hoof gets SSI, union (Pipefitters) pension as well as a school board pension. And his wife get SSI and a school board pension. They are
    very "comfortable". Bv)=

    Sounds like he'd doingwell in his retirement.


    I quit packing several years ago as I could see myself beginng to
    slide down a slippery slope.

    Understandable.

    I don't even own a gun these days. Sold my last rifle to a collector
    for major $$$$.

    Must have been a good one--a Henry? One of the guns Steve inherited
    from his father is a flintlock.

    Follow on to the Henry "Yellow Boy" - a Winchester kever action in
    .32/40 calibre.

    nice!


    Fortunately I don't require a dentist

    I've still got most of my teeth--no wisdom teeth and one of my molars
    was being reabsorbed from the inside some years ago so it was taken
    out. Hasn't affected my chewing any.

    My only hassles with the China Clippers is when I get qa seed or
    popcorn hull under a plate. Thar requires a trip to the "facility" as
    I consider whipping out your teeth in company to be both gauche and
    gross.

    I know, I think most people do respect others and remove themselves
    from the presence of people before taking their teeth out. My mom had several bridges, dad had one or two also but they always kept them in except for cleaning. It always looked like they had a full mouth of
    real teeth until you looked closer and saw the hardware.

    The dentist did a good job with them; the VA in our area said that he
    was the best for that in the area. Neither of my parents had any
    problems with things like apples, corn on the cob, pop corn, etc tho Mom
    used a water pik as she got older.

    Never had braces or a bridge. Went straight to falsies.

    I had braces as an adult, took care of some issues but not 100%. Still
    have occaisional problems with TMJ.

    Title: Country-Style Groundhog DD> Categories: Game DD>
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Kill one and 7 come to its funeral according to John Burroughs. Don't
    see many around here but used to see a lot where I grew up. Hmmmm, come
    to think about it, haven't seen so many up there recently.

    They were thick on our farm. They and the raccoons could do major
    damage to a field of corn. Granddad used to use leg traps to catch the unwary. One of our daily things was to check the trap line and he's dipatch the catch with his pistol then reset the snare. One day we
    started around
    the corner of the corn crib and he stopped short. Tald me, "Run back
    to the house and bring me the rifle." Seems there was a skunk in the
    trap.

    And don't do anything to startle the skunk! We had them around our area
    as well and every so often our dogs would provoke them just enough to
    get sprayed. Their other nemisis was porcupines--dogs would come home
    with a muzzle full of quills.


    Title: French Fried Skunk
    Categories: Game, Dairy, Chilies
    Yield: 5 Servings


    I'll pass on this one, thank you. (G)


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Mike Powell on Fri Dec 15 16:20:19 2023
    Hi Mike,

    That's one thing I miss on my burgers: a nice slice of
    freshly-cut red > SD> onion!

    I can go either way with onion, sometimes I'll take it, other times leave it off.

    I love onions but have learned it is best to lay off of them the later
    in the day it gets. After lunch, they get left off.

    I've not had any problems with them except for getting the occaisional
    super strong one. Just ould rather not have them on a burger all the
    time.


    Unfortunately, tomatoes and tomato sauce have joined that club. Maybe
    I need to start eating supper for breakfast and breakfast for supper.
    :D

    That would work if you liked to do a lot of cooking in the morning. I
    keep my breakfast basic, less likely to mess it up when I'm half asleep.
    OTOH, I like to do most of my cooking around mid day. If I can, I'll
    start supper prep right after lunch, if not, then mid afternoon.

    Tomatoes don't bother me which is good as I do a lot with them. Next
    week I'm planning to do a spice Moroccan chicken meal (clipped that
    recipe some years ago, has become a favorite) that calls for tomatoes as
    well as garbanzoes, onions, lemon and spices like cumin, cinnamon and coriander. I serve it over whole wheat couscous, usually doubling the
    recipe so I can put extras in the freezer for quick meals.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Dec 16 17:58:29 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Saturday December 16 2023 09:46, you wrote to me:

    Yeah, so can I. In my case, though, if I reverse to breakfast in the evening, I had better stick to cereal. ;)

    I can eat eggs in the evening but nothing spicy...

    Hmmm, that is one thing I miss around the holidays. My grandparents
    would make excellent fudge, usually chocolate and peanut butter.
    <drools>

    I usually make okay fudge in the microwave. Nothing fancy.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Butterscotch Fudge
    Categories: Candies, Holiday
    Yield: 81 Servings

    1 c Sugar
    1/2 c Butter
    3/4 ts Salt
    7 1/2 oz Jar marshmallow creme
    5 1/3 oz Can evaporated milk
    12 oz Butterscotch chips
    1/2 ts Vanilla
    1/2 c Pecans, chopped

    Combine the sugar, butter, salt, marshmallow creme, and milk in a
    heavy saucepan. Cook to rolling boil over medium low heat. Continue
    to boil for 5 full minutes, stirring frequently. Remove from heat and
    add butterscotch chips, vanilla, and pecans. Stir until chips are
    melted. Pour into well-buttered 9x9 inch square pan. Cool and cut
    into squares.

    Classic Holiday Cooking

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Sun Dec 17 05:16:00 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    Or stronger words.

    Unfortunately, tomatoes and tomato sauce have joined that club. Maybe I need to start eating supper for breakfast and breakfast for supper.

    I can eat breakfast for any meal of the day.

    Yeah, so can I. In my case, though, if I reverse to breakfast in the evening, I had better stick to cereal. ;)

    Title: Old Time Fudge
    Categories: Christmas, Candy, Great, Marie
    Yield: 8 Servings

    Hmmm, that is one thing I miss around the holidays. My grandparents
    would make excellent fudge, usually chocolate and peanut butter.
    <drools>

    So I went to my 20K+ recipe base and searched on fudge w/peanut butter
    as an ingredient. And I didn't have a single one using chocolate. At my
    house it better have chocolate in it or it simply ain't "fudge".

    So, I grabbed and Meal Monstered one from the old jailbird - Martha
    Stewart ......

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Quick Chocolate Peanut Butter Fudge
    Categories: Chocolate, Dairy, Nuts
    Yield: 64 pieces

    14 oz Can sweetened condensed milk
    - divided
    4 tb Unsalted butter; more for
    - brushing
    3/4 c (packed) light-brown sugar
    Coarse salt
    3/4 c Smooth peanut butter
    2 1/4 c Confectioners' sugar;
    - divided
    9 oz Bittersweet chocolate;
    - chopped (2 c)

    Brush an 8" X 8" baking dish with butter, and line with
    parchment paper, leaving a 2-inch overhang on long
    sides. Brush parchment with butter.

    Heat 1/2 cup condensed milk, 4 tablespoons butter, brown
    sugar, and a pinch of salt in a double boiler or a
    heatproof bowl set over a pan of simmering water,
    stirring, until melted, about 4 minutes. Remove from
    heat. Mix in peanut butter and 1 1/2 cup confectioners'
    sugar. Press peanut butter mixture into the bottom of
    prepared baking dish, smoothing top with an offset
    spatula.

    Melt chocolate in a double boiler or a heatproof bowl
    set over a pan of simmering water, stirring, until
    melted, about 3 minutes. Remove from heat, stir in
    remaining 3/4 cup condensed milk and a pinch of salt,
    until melted and combined. Mix in remaining 3/4 cup
    confectioners' sugar. Spread chocolate mixture over
    peanut butter layer, smoothing top with an offset
    spatula. Refrigerate until firm, about 2 hours.

    Remove fudge from pan using parchment to lift, and
    transfer to a cutting board. Peel off parchment. Using a
    warm knife, cut crosswise into eight 1-inch-wide strips;
    cut each strip into 8 pieces.

    By Martha Stewart Test Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.marthastewart.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Sun Dec 17 05:26:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Yeah, so can I. In my case, though, if I reverse to breakfast in the evening, I had better stick to cereal. ;)

    I can eat eggs in the evening but nothing spicy...

    Hmmm, that is one thing I miss around the holidays. My grandparents
    would make excellent fudge, usually chocolate and peanut butter.
    <drools>

    I usually make okay fudge in the microwave. Nothing fancy.

    Here's my go-to recipe for making fudge, It can probably be done in the
    nuker, although I've not tried.

    I note that you're kicking my bum in Scrabble. Two "clear the rack" 50
    point bonuses is impressive. Enjoy the fudge ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Eagle Brand Chocolate Fudge
    Categories: Five, Dairy, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 64 Servings

    3 c (18 oz) semi-sweet chocolate
    - chips
    14 oz Can Eagle Brand Sweetened
    - Condensed Milk
    ds Salt
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    64 Pecan halves

    Line an 8" pan with waxes paper.

    Melt chocolate chips with sweetened condensed milk and
    salt in heavy saucepan. Remove from heat and stir in
    vanilla. Spread evenly in prepared pan.

    When fudge has started to "set" place a pecan half on
    each square inch of the surface.

    Chill 2 hours or until firm. Remove from pan by lifting
    edges of wax paper; peel off paper. Cut into 1" squares.

    NOTE: Pecans added by Uncle Dirty Dave. Rest of recipe
    is "as written". The pecans are optional except in my
    kitchen where they are mandatory.

    Yield: 2 pounds

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.eaglebrand.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 17 07:07:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That sent me to my Bing search engine. BhT is "Butylated
    hydroxytoluene (BHT), also known as dibutylhydroxytoluene, is a
    lipophilic organic compound ...

    So, it's organic and not some laboratory "Frankenfood"

    Try to convince Steve that it's safe for foods.

    Maybe he'll come around. Remember how he was with pork after being
    downwind of a pig sty or was that a factory farm?.

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery.
    If DD> I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't remember
    the DD> last time I bought Kraft mayo.

    First time we lived in NC, it was my "go to" mayo. Moved away when
    Steve joined the Army and landed in TX about 15 months later. Thought
    I'd be able to get it there but it was a no go. My neighbor, from
    Georgia, brought back several jars when she went home for Christmas and wouldn't take anything for it.

    Mustard if fine on other things but not my burger. And ketchup is

    Agreed, mustard doesn't belong on a burger.

    for rench fries that are badly done when there's no Tartar Sauce
    to be had.

    I prefer my fries with a bit of salt or malt vinegar.

    Salt is a must - either the real stuff or the Nu-Salt (potassium based rather than sodium based). I stock malt vineger in my cupboards but
    it's mostly used on fish reather than fries.

    I tried the Nu-Salt but went back to NaCl when I found that salt didn't affect my blood pressure. At the time it didn't keep my potassium level
    up either.

    I found that if one uses too much Nu Salt it gets bitter. I wouldn't use enough to affect my potassium levels. However the two potassium sulphate caplets I used to take every night to replace the potassium that was lost through use of Lasix (water pill) did cause my doctor to tkae note. So now
    I just take a single caplet every other night. If I start to have problems
    with muscle cramps again I'll increase thae frequency.

    I was referencing Popeyes (no apostrophe) when asking about flounder
    as that is featured as its fish sandwich and they have several shrimp offerings.

    No, we go there for the chicken. Steve had some Bojangles chicken
    recently and said that Popeyes is much better but the BoBerry biscuit
    is better than the Popeyes plain biscuit.

    I never eat the Popeyes biscuit. But, Jasper likes them. If he's not here
    then they become bird food.

    I'm not a fan of Popeyes fish sandwich. And I leave the shrimp with
    them unless it's a *very* special offering. And I leave their fries
    behind as well - opting instead for mashed potatoes w/Cajun gravy. But mostly I keep to the chicken (dark meat preferred) offerings.

    I used to like most fish sandwiches; some were better than others but never got one at Popeyes, usually McD's (hold the cheese!) or BK. Now, most often, I'll go for some form of chicken. My usual side at Popeyes
    is cole slaw.

    Popeye's cole slaw is pretty good. As is Kentucky Fried Colonel's.

    I don't even notice the half slice of sheeze on the Mickey D's filet.
    And Burger Whop's Whaler (fish sandwich) back in the 70s was much more
    to my taste than the current offering.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    Wendy's ain't my place for shakes. The "Frosty" is too thick to
    drink (like DQ's "Blizzard") so it's hard to manage whilst driving.

    True, but we either go in and sit down or just sit in the vehicle
    until done. My favorite Blizzard is the mint M&M.

    I think Dairy Queen has their shakes almost "right" for drinking and driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    That was, no doubt, some years ago. My local B-R brags about their U$1
    single scoop cones.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    My main problem with the C-PAP is getting untangled when it's time for
    a potty break. Bv)=

    I can see that; I've got a 20' tube (mostly rolled up, about 8' of
    actual length) on my home machine. Since it's so noisy, we keep it
    outside the bedroom and just run the long tubing to my side of the bed.
    My travel machine is quieter so we just put an 8' tube on that. It
    rides mostly in the camper but has gone on other trips (Alaska, Utah,
    New York) with us.

    My C-PAP is pretty quiet. So that's not a worry. The whole thing came
    in "travel bag" packaging so I assume I could take it on the road
    should the need arise.

    Still, reinstalling the webbing around my head after having to whizz is
    a genuine PITA. I've gone to a ersatz urinal to keep from having to "make
    the trek". Amazing how inventive we can get when needed. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garden Tuna Pita Sandwiches
    Categories: Seafood, Cheese, Vegetables, Greens, Breads
    Yield: 3 servings

    7 1/2 oz Light water-packed tuna
    3/4 c Cottage cheese
    1/2 c Chopped cucumber
    1/4 c Reduced-fat mayonnaise
    1/4 c Shredded carrot
    2 tb Minced fresh chives
    2 tb Minced fresh parsley
    1/2 ts Dill weed
    1/4 ts Salt
    ds Pepper
    6 Whole wheat pita pocket
    - halves
    1 c Fresh baby spinach
    6 sl Tomato

    In a small bowl, combine the first 10 ingredients. Line
    pita halves with spinach and tomato; fill each with 1/3
    cup tuna mixture.

    Rebecca Clark, Warrior, Alabama

    Makes: 3 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 17 07:07:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Yes, Steve has taken his to Israel and Guiana as well as shipboard 3
    times and numberous other flying and driving trips. It's a lot smaller
    and quieter than the concentrator.

    Well, yeahhhh. And a lot lighter, too.

    Verymuch so--and doesn't count when you fly so he can take a carry on, personal item and the C-PAP. It's the same with the concentrator.

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Chicken Sandwich DD> Categories:
    Poultry, Breads, Herbs, Chilies, Dairy DD> Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good but I'll make mine mild.

    Popeyes regular (mild) chicken is decent. And now I have to be careful
    with what I get. I like the "original" spicy. But they've added a Ghost
    Pepper level .... talk about Light Up Your Life!!!

    They're (Popeyes) doing some real deals on wings now. Like buy an order
    of six and get another order for just U$1. A guy could overload at that
    price point.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Popeyes Cajun Gravy
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Pork, Beef, Herbs
    Yield: 3 cups

    1 tb Oil
    1 Chicken gizzard
    2 tb Minced bell pepper
    1/4 c Ground beef
    1/4 c Ground pork
    2 c Water
    14 oz Can beef broth
    2 tb Cornstarch
    1 tb Flour
    2 tb Milk
    2 tb Distilled white vinegar
    1 ts Sugar
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Ground black pepper
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper
    1/8 ts Garlic powder
    1/8 ts Onion powder
    1 ds Dried parsley flakes

    Heat 1 tablespoon vegetable oil in a large saucepan over
    medium heat. Saute chicken gizzard in the oil for 4 to 5
    minutes until cooked. Remove gizzard from the pan and
    let it cool so that you can handle it. Finely mince the
    chicken gizzard.

    Combine ground beef and ground pork in a small bowl.
    Smash the meat together with your hands until it's
    well-mixed. Add bell pepper to the saucepan and saute
    for 1 minute. Add ground beef and pork to the pan and
    cook it until it's brown. Use a potato masher to smash
    meat into tiny rice-size pieces as it browns.

    Add water and beef broth to the pan. Immediately whisk
    in cornstarch and flour.

    Add remaining ingredients and bring the mixture to a
    boil. Reduce heat and simmer gravy for 30 to 35 minutes
    or until thick.

    Makes 3 cups.

    RECIPE FROM: https://cookpad.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 17 07:10:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: Country-Style Groundhog DD> Categories: Game DD>
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Kill one and 7 come to its funeral according to John Burroughs. Don't
    see many around here but used to see a lot where I grew up. Hmmmm, come
    to think about it, haven't seen so many up there recently.

    They were thick on our farm. They and the raccoons could do major
    damage to a field of corn. Granddad used to use leg traps to catch the unwary. One of our daily things was to check the trap line and he's dipatch the catch with his pistol then reset the snare. One day we
    started around the corner of the corn crib and he stopped short. Tald
    me, "Run back to the house and bring me the rifle." Seems there was
    a skunk in the trap.

    And don't do anything to startle the skunk! We had them around our
    area as well and every so often our dogs would provoke them just
    enough to get sprayed. Their other nemisis was porcupines--dogs
    would come home with a muzzle full of quills.

    I've never seen a porky-pine in the wild.

    And I learned, early-on, that giving the "skunked" pooch a bath in
    tomato juice helps McMuttly to smell more like a dog than a chemicals
    plant.

    Title: French Fried Skunk
    Categories: Game, Dairy, Chilies
    Yield: 5 Servings

    I'll pass on this one, thank you. (G)

    Actualyy once you get past the mental images it's pretty good eating.

    I had a friend who kept a skunk as a pet. Everyone thought Pepe had been de-scented as there was never a hint of "skunk" around John or the skunk. Unless someone tried to bully John. Then Pepe would spin around and spray
    the bully in defense of his boss. People soon learned to "play nice" in
    their presence. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cullen Skink
    Categories: Dairy, Seafood, Vegetables, pOTATOES
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 1/2 c Milk
    1/4 c Parsley sprigs; leaves and
    - stems separated, more
    - leaves for garnish
    1 Bay leaf
    1 lb Smoked haddock fillet;
    - preferably not dyed
    2 oz (4 tb) unsalted butter
    1 md Onion; fine chopped
    8 oz Store-bought or home-made
    - mashed potato (1-1 1/2 c)
    Salt &d black pepper
    Crusty bread; to serve, opt

    Put the milk, parsley stalks, bay leaf, and the whole
    piece of haddock into a large saucepan.

    Finely chop the parsley leaves. Set aside.

    Bring the milk to a gentle boil over medium heat. Lower
    the heat to low simmer, about 3 minutes.

    Remove the pan from the heat. Set aside for 5 minutes so
    the herbs and haddock infuse their flavors into the
    milk.

    Remove the haddock from the milk with a slotted spatula.
    Set aside.

    Strain the liquid through a fine mesh strainer. Discard
    the herbs.

    In another large saucepan over medium-low heat, add the
    butter and the onion. Cook gently until the butter melts
    and the onions become translucent, about 5 minutes. Be
    careful not to burn the onion.

    Add the infused milk and the potato to the onion-butter
    mixture. Stir until the potatoes dissolve and the soup
    thickens slightly.

    Flake the smoked haddock into bite-size chunks,
    discarding any bones. Add to the soup.

    Lower the heat to a gentle simmer. Add the chopped
    parsley and cook until the haddock is warmed through,
    about 5 minutes. Don't overstir, because the fish chunks
    might disintegrate.

    Season to taste with salt and pepper. Be careful with
    the salt, as the fish will impart quite a salty flavor
    all on its own.

    Garnish the soup with the reserved parsley leaves and
    more freshly ground black pepper. Serve with crusty
    bread, if desired.

    By: Julia Hartbeck

    Makes: 5 to 6 cups

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.thespruceeats.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sun Dec 17 11:08:00 2023
    Tomatoes don't bother me which is good as I do a lot with them. Next
    week I'm planning to do a spice Moroccan chicken meal (clipped that
    recipe some years ago, has become a favorite) that calls for tomatoes as
    well as garbanzoes, onions, lemon and spices like cumin, cinnamon and coriander. I serve it over whole wheat couscous, usually doubling the
    recipe so I can put extras in the freezer for quick meals.

    One thing about recipes from the Southern Mediterranean across to India is
    that they know how to mix things together to get a real good flavor.

    Mike


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sun Dec 17 10:28:00 2023
    So I went to my 20K+ recipe base and searched on fudge w/peanut butter
    as an ingredient. And I didn't have a single one using chocolate.

    I am shocked there was not at least one that used chocolate!

    At my house it better have chocolate in it or it simply ain't "fudge".

    I really enjoyed their peanut butter fudge but, yeah, when someone says
    fudge I usually think of chocolate. I used to like taking a small piece of
    the peanut butter and another of the chocolate and having them together for
    an extra yummy treat.

    So, I grabbed and Meal Monstered one from the old jailbird - Martha
    Stewart ......

    Looks like another good one. :)

    Mike

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Dec 18 06:53:12 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    So I went to my 20K+ recipe base and searched on fudge w/peanut butter
    as an ingredient. And I didn't have a single one using chocolate.

    I am shocked there was not at least one that used chocolate!

    At my house it better have chocolate in it or it simply ain't "fudge".

    I really enjoyed their peanut butter fudge but, yeah, when someone says fudge I usually think of chocolate. I used to like taking a small
    piece of the peanut butter and another of the chocolate and having them together for an extra yummy treat.

    So, I grabbed and Meal Monstered one from the old jailbird - Martha
    Stewart ......

    Looks like another good one. :)

    And here's one that seems to be an oxymoron but does have chocolate as
    an ingredient. Before I got my hands on it Pillsbury was calling for oleo-margarine instead of butter. But I trust cows more than chemists.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Vanilla Fudge
    Categories: Candy, Snacks, Chocolate
    Yield: 30 pieces

    1 1/2 c Granulated sugar
    1/2 c Butter; melted
    5 oz Evaporated milk
    7 oz Marshmallow cream
    1 1/3 c White chocolate discs
    1 ts Pure vanilla extract

    Line a 9" square pan with foil extends over sides of
    pan; butter foil.

    In a saucepan, combine sugar, butter, and milk. Bring to
    a boil over medium heat, stirring constantly. Boil 5
    minutes, stirring constantly. Remove from heat.

    Add marshmallow cream and white chocolate discs; blend
    until smooth. Stir in vanilla extract. Pour into
    prepared pan. Cool to room temperature.

    RECIPE FROM: The Pillsbury Family Christmas Cookbook

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 17 19:38:55 2023
    Hi Dave,

    On (17 Dec 23) Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis...


    Hmmm, that is one thing I miss around the holidays. My grandparents
    would make excellent fudge, usually chocolate and peanut butter.
    <drools>

    I usually make okay fudge in the microwave. Nothing fancy.

    Here's my go-to recipe for making fudge, It can probably be done in
    the nuker, although I've not tried.

    I note that you're kicking my bum in Scrabble. Two "clear the rack" 50 point bonuses is impressive. Enjoy the fudge ....


    Title: Eagle Brand Chocolate Fudge
    Categories: Five, Dairy, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 64 Servings

    3 c (18 oz) semi-sweet chocolate
    - chips
    14 oz Can Eagle Brand Sweetened
    - Condensed Milk
    ds Salt
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    64 Pecan halves

    Sub in a bag (1 cup) of mint chips or 1 teaspoon of peppermint extract
    for the vanilla. Or, crush peppermint candies (candy canes) and either
    mix in or spread them on top. I usually make this in a 9" pan; it's a
    bit thinner but you can cut more pieces from it. (G)


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 17 19:43:34 2023
    Hi Dave,


    That sent me to my Bing search engine. BhT is "Butylated
    hydroxytoluene (BHT), also known as dibutylhydroxytoluene, is a
    lipophilic organic compound ...

    So, it's organic and not some laboratory "Frankenfood"

    Try to convince Steve that it's safe for foods.

    Maybe he'll come around. Remember how he was with pork after being downwind of a pig sty or was that a factory farm?.

    It was a hog slop pond that had overflowed after a rain storm. He stayed
    off of pork for about 11 years. I'm not going to push the BhT issue as
    there are a lot of alternatives which there wasn't with pork. I'm glad
    he saw the light on that; makes my cooking so much easier. He still
    likes turkey bacon but doesn't insist that I eat it or use it in
    cooking; I can go "whole hog" (G) with real bacon.

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery.
    If DD> I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't remember
    the DD> last time I bought Kraft mayo.

    First time we lived in NC, it was my "go to" mayo. Moved away when
    Steve joined the Army and landed in TX about 15 months later. Thought
    I'd be able to get it there but it was a no go. My neighbor, from
    Georgia, brought back several jars when she went home for Christmas and wouldn't take anything for it.


    for rench fries that are badly done when there's no Tartar Sauce
    to be had.

    I prefer my fries with a bit of salt or malt vinegar.

    Salt is a must - either the real stuff or the Nu-Salt (potassium based rather than sodium based). I stock malt vineger in my cupboards but
    it's mostly used on fish reather than fries.

    I tried the Nu-Salt but went back to NaCl when I found that salt didn't affect my blood pressure. At the time it didn't keep my potassium level
    up either.

    I found that if one uses too much Nu Salt it gets bitter. I wouldn't

    That was another reason I gave it up, even a little tasted too bitter
    for me.

    use enough to affect my potassium levels. However the two potassium sulphate caplets I used to take every night to replace the
    potassium DD> that was lost through use of Lasix (water pill) did cause
    my doctor to DD> tkae note. So now I just take a single caplet every
    other night. If I DD> start to have problems with muscle cramps again
    I'll increase thae DD> frequency.

    I probably should keep some potassium on hand for muscle cramps, have
    found that mustard or a shot of vinegar works just as well. I've a
    packet of yellow mustard on my nightstand.


    No, we go there for the chicken. Steve had some Bojangles chicken
    recently and said that Popeyes is much better but the BoBerry biscuit
    is better than the Popeyes plain biscuit.

    I never eat the Popeyes biscuit. But, Jasper likes them. If he's not
    here then they become bird food.

    They're ok but not nearly as good as my homemade.

    I'm not a fan of Popeyes fish sandwich. And I leave the shrimp with
    them unless it's a *very* special offering. And I leave their fries
    behind as well - opting instead for mashed potatoes w/Cajun gravy. But mostly I keep to the chicken (dark meat preferred) offerings.

    I used to like most fish sandwiches; some were better than others but never got one at Popeyes, usually McD's (hold the cheese!) or BK. Now, most often, I'll go for some form of chicken. My usual side at Popeyes
    is cole slaw.

    Popeye's cole slaw is pretty good. As is Kentucky Fried Colonel's.

    We rarely go to KFC, just isn't as good as Popeyes.

    I don't even notice the half slice of sheeze on the Mickey D's
    filet. DD> And Burger Whop's Whaler (fish sandwich) back in the 70s was
    much more DD> to my taste than the current offering.

    Used to be a whole slice of cheese, and since it's the "American
    cheese", it doesn't add anything to the sandwich. But, I agree, the 70s sandwiches were much better so I usually go with chicken.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    That was, no doubt, some years ago. My local B-R brags about their U$1 single scoop cones.


    That was in the mid 70s. We don't have a B-R nearby but do have a great
    home made ice cream place, took folks from the 2019 picnic there. A
    single (generous) scoop is $5. but Steve gets his free for being retired military. He usually has them add a couple of dollars to the "cop card"
    which pays for the free cones for military & first responders of all
    branches. I like to split my single scoop into 2 smaller; last week I
    had chocolate on the bottom and cinnamon (real, not the red candy) on
    the top.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Still, reinstalling the webbing around my head after having to whizz
    is a genuine PITA. I've gone to a ersatz urinal to keep from having to "make the trek". Amazing how inventive we can get when needed. Bv)=

    Whatever works. I hang the cannula hose on the upper part of my
    nightstand & make sure the hosing is out of my path of travel.


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    Categories: Seafood, Cheese, Vegetables, Greens, Breads


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 17 20:01:09 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Chicken Sandwich DD> Categories:
    Poultry, Breads, Herbs, Chilies, Dairy DD> Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good but I'll make mine mild.

    Popeyes regular (mild) chicken is decent. And now I have to be careful with what I get. I like the "original" spicy. But they've added a
    Ghost Pepper level .... talk about Light Up Your Life!!!

    I'll leave those for the nut cases. Years ago my one BIL ordered some
    wings, somewhere, as super extra spicy. When he picked them up, the
    whole kitchen crew came out to see who was the (insert adjective of
    choice) fool was that ordered the wings. He's since developed ulcers and
    can't eat the hot & spicy he used to.

    They're (Popeyes) doing some real deals on wings now. Like buy an
    order of six and get another order for just U$1. A guy could overload
    at that price point.

    Haven't seen that but nearest Popeyes is in Raleigh and not always on
    our path of travel down there.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 17 20:05:41 2023
    Hi Dave,

    They were thick on our farm. They and the raccoons could do major
    damage to a field of corn. Granddad used to use leg traps to catch the unwary. One of our daily things was to check the trap line and he's dipatch the catch with his pistol then reset the snare. One day we
    started around the corner of the corn crib and he stopped short. Tald
    me, "Run back to the house and bring me the rifle." Seems there was
    a skunk in the trap.

    And don't do anything to startle the skunk! We had them around our
    area as well and every so often our dogs would provoke them just
    enough to get sprayed. Their other nemisis was porcupines--dogs
    would come home with a muzzle full of quills.

    I've never seen a porky-pine in the wild.

    They can move pretty fast and the quills can travel quite far/fast. Not
    a critter to provoke.

    And I learned, early-on, that giving the "skunked" pooch a bath in
    tomato juice helps McMuttly to smell more like a dog than a
    chemicals DD> plant.

    Been there, done that, turned the white fur a nice shade of pink. (G)

    Title: French Fried Skunk DD> Categories: Game, Dairy,
    Chilies DD> Yield: 5 Servings

    I'll pass on this one, thank you. (G)

    Actualyy once you get past the mental images it's pretty good eating.

    I had a friend who kept a skunk as a pet. Everyone thought Pepe had
    been de-scented as there was never a hint of "skunk" around John or
    the skunk. Unless someone tried to bully John. Then Pepe would spin
    around and spray the bully in defense of his boss. People soon learned
    to "play nice" in their presence. Bv)=

    Not worth the consequences. (G)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Mon Dec 18 11:27:00 2023
    And here's one that seems to be an oxymoron but does have chocolate as
    an ingredient. Before I got my hands on it Pillsbury was calling for oleo-margarine instead of butter. But I trust cows more than chemists.

    As do I. Thanks for sharing, and fixing, it! ;)

    Mike


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 18 15:17:50 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Here's my go-to recipe for making fudge, It can probably be done in the nuker, although I've not tried.

    I'll save it.

    I note that you're kicking my bum in Scrabble. Two "clear the rack" 50 point bonuses is impressive. Enjoy the fudge ....

    I get lucky once in a while.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lucky Dogs
    Categories: None
    Yield: 1 Servings

    6 Hot dogs
    3 Smoked sausages links
    3 Chorizo sausage link |
    4 tb Olive oil
    1 md Onion; julienned
    1 md Green pepper; julienned
    2 c Chili
    1/2 c Grated Cheddar cheese
    1/2 c Minced onions
    1/4 c Yellow mustard
    1/4 c Creole mustard
    1 c Pickled relish
    1 Dozen hot dog buns

    EMERIL LIVE SHOW #EMIA30

    Preheat the grill. Season the hot dogs, smoked sausage, and chorizo
    with 2 tablespoons olive oil, salt and pepper. Place the dogs on the
    hot grill and cook for 2 to 3 minutes on each side. In a saute pan,
    heat the remaining olive oil. When the oil is hot, add the julienne
    onions and pepper. Season with salt and pepper. Saute the vegetables
    for 3 to 4 minutes or until wilted. Remove from the heat. Remove the
    dogs from the grill and place in the buns. Garnish the chorizo dogs
    with the sauteed onions and pepper. Garnish half of the hot dogs with
    chili, cheese, onions and mustard. Garnish the remaining hot dogs
    with mustard and relish. Garnish the smoked sausages with Creole
    mustard. Place all the dogs on a platter and serve with potato chips.

    Yield: 1 dozen hot dogs

    Posted to recipelu-digest by molony <molony@scsn.net> on Mar 06, 1998

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 18 16:26:05 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I found that if one uses too much Nu Salt it gets bitter. I wouldn't
    use enough to affect my potassium levels. However the two potassium sulphate caplets I used to take every night to replace the potassium
    that was lost through use of Lasix (water pill) did cause my doctor to tkae note. So now I just take a single caplet every other night. If I start to have problems with muscle cramps again I'll increase thae frequency.

    I use Redmond Real Salt (sea salt). It's mined from the Great Salt Lake
    and it is all-natural with minerals with the salt. It's delicious and
    tastes good on food. I have an issue with electrolytes due to blood
    pressure meds. If I need a quick shot of them, I dissolve a little Real
    Salt in a flavored drink and that fixes the problem.

    https://redmond.life/collections/real-salt

    My mom told me about this salt. Not cheap but a little goes a very,
    very long way.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Creamy Mushroom Steaks
    Categories: Meats, Main dish
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 sm Beef Top Loin Steaks
    1 tb Butter

    MMMMM-------------------------THE SAUCE------------------------------
    1/2 lb Mushrooms, Sliced
    1 tb Butter
    3 tb Onion, Chopped
    2 tb All-Purpose Flour
    1 1/2 c Half and Half
    1 ts Soy Sauce
    1 ts Onion, Grated
    Salt
    Pepper
    1 Sliced Red Bell Pepper
    1 Sliced Green Bell Pepper

    Trim the steaks of excess fat and allow to sit at room temperature
    for 2 to 3 hours. Prepare the mushroom sauce. Saute the sliced
    mushrooms in butter for a few minutes in a heavy saucepan until they
    just start to brown. Add the chopped onions and saute until they are
    golden and transparent. Sprinkle with flour and stir to blend well.
    Add the half and half a little at a time while stirring. Simmer until
    thick and creamy. Add the soy sauce, grated onion and salt and pepper
    to taste. Brown some butter in a skillet. Add the steaks. Brown
    slightly on both sides. Reduce heat, cover and simmer for a few
    minutes in their own juices. Add the mushroom sauce to the skillet.
    Let the steaks simmer in the sauce until they are tender and done to
    your liking. Remove the membranes and seeds from the bell peppers and
    slice vertically into thin strips. Use as a garnish on the steaks.
    Serve while hot.

    Joel Ehrlich on rec.food.cooking

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Tue Dec 19 05:11:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Here's my go-to recipe for making fudge, It can probably be done
    in the nuker, although I've not tried.

    I'll save it.

    I note that you're kicking my bum in Scrabble. Two "clear the rack" 50 point bonuses is impressive. Enjoy the fudge ....

    I get lucky once in a while.

    Lots wriong with this recipe

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lucky Dogs
    Categories: None
    Yield: 1 Servings

    Beginning here ^^^^ 12 pieces of meat and 12 buns are a tremendous hit
    for one serving. And no categories listed.

    6 Hot dogs
    3 Smoked sausages links
    3 Chorizo sausage link |
    4 tb Olive oil
    1 md Onion; julienned
    1 md Green pepper; julienned
    2 c Chili

    What kind "chili"? Chilli con carnage? Chile powder? Chilli spice mix?
    Or, chili sauce (like from a Heinz bottle)?

    1/2 c Grated Cheddar cheese

    At least they capitalised Cheddar - which IS a proper noun.

    1/2 c Minced onions
    1/4 c Yellow mustard
    1/4 c Creole mustard
    1 c Pickled relish
    1 Dozen hot dog buns

    EMERIL LIVE SHOW #EMIA30

    Preheat the grill. Season the hot dogs, smoked sausage, and chorizo
    with 2 tablespoons olive oil, salt and pepper. Place the dogs on the
    hot grill and cook for 2 to 3 minutes on each side. In a saute pan,

    How do you grill something tubular/round on "each side"?

    It's either all sides or just inside and outside. Bv)= I expect better
    of Emer-dog.

    Still ...... here's my Go-To hot dog (or Polish Sausage, etc) topping.
    I freeze the excess in manageable sized packets.

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    Title: Dirty Dave's Coney Island Hot Dog Sauce
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies
    Yield: 48 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Finely ground beef
    1 1/2 lb Minced beef heart
    1 lb Suet
    2 tb Minced garlic
    1 tb Yellow mustard
    6 oz Water
    6 oz Tomato paste
    3 tb Chilli spice mix
    Salt & pepper

    Render the suet in a large skillet and cook the hamburger
    and beef heart until the meat has no pink left, stirring
    to break up any hint of lumps.

    Add the garlic and mustard. Mix the tomato paste with
    the water and add to the skillet, stirring the while.
    Now stir in the chilli spice and salt and pepper as you
    wish. Continue to cook until the mixture is done.

    Place in a stainless steel steam table vessel for serving
    over good quality (preferably all-meat) hot dogs.

    Stir sauce before dipping onto the sandwich so as to
    incorporate plenty of red "oil" to soak into the good
    quality buns. Top each Coney dog with yellow mustard
    (unless it's for me) and chopped onions. And plenty of
    napkins to catch the oil that wants to run down the
    customer's arm and stain his shirt.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Tue Dec 19 05:24:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I found that if one uses too much Nu Salt it gets bitter. I wouldn't
    use enough to affect my potassium levels. However the two potassium sulphate caplets I used to take every night to replace the potassium
    that was lost through use of Lasix (water pill) did cause my doctor to tkae note. So now I just take a single caplet every other night. If I start to have problems with muscle cramps again I'll increase thae frequency.

    I use Redmond Real Salt (sea salt). It's mined from the Great Salt
    Lake and it is all-natural with minerals with the salt. It's delicious and tastes good on food. I have an issue with electrolytes due to
    blood pressure meds. If I need a quick shot of them, I dissolve a
    little Real Salt in a flavored drink and that fixes the problem.

    https://redmond.life/collections/real-salt

    My mom told me about this salt. Not cheap but a little goes a very,
    very long way.

    At it's origin all salt is "sea" salt. At the salt mines down in the
    state of Louisiana fossilized "denizens of the deep" (fish) are found
    with regularity - if they are payiong attention. Or if one jams the
    machinery.

    Salt enhances flavours. Wakes them right up.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Salt-Encrusted Prime Rib
    Categories: Five, Beef, Sauces
    Yield: 10 servings

    3 lb Box kosher salt; divided
    8 lb Bone-in beef rib roast
    3 tb Worcestershire sauce
    2 tb Cracked black pepper
    2 ts Garlic powder
    1/2 c Water

    Set oven @ 450ºF/232ºC.

    Line a shallow roasting pan with heavy-duty foil. Place
    3 cups salt on foil, spreading evenly to form a 1/2"
    layer.

    Brush roast with Worcestershire sauce; sprinkle with
    pepper and garlic powder. Place roast on layer of salt,
    fat side up. In a small bowl, mix water and remaining
    salt (mixture should be just moist enough to pack).
    Beginning at the base of the roast, press salt mixture
    onto the sides and top of roast.

    Roast 15 minutes. Reduce oven setting to 325ºF/165ºC.
    Roast 2 to 2-1/4 hours. (Temperature of roast will
    continue to rise about 15° upon standing.) Let stand 20
    minutes.

    Remove and discard salt crust; brush away any remaining
    salt. Carve roast into slices.

    Roger Bowlds, Bakersfield, California

    Makes: 10 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 19 05:49:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hmmm, that is one thing I miss around the holidays. My grandparents
    would make excellent fudge, usually chocolate and peanut butter.
    <drools>

    I usually make okay fudge in the microwave. Nothing fancy.

    Here's my go-to recipe for making fudge, It can probably be done in
    the nuker, although I've not tried.

    Title: Eagle Brand Chocolate Fudge
    Categories: Five, Dairy, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 64 Servings

    3 c (18 oz) semi-sweet chocolate
    - chips
    14 oz Can Eagle Brand Sweetened
    - Condensed Milk
    ds Salt
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    64 Pecan halves

    Sub in a bag (1 cup) of mint chips or 1 teaspoon of peppermint extract
    for the vanilla. Or, crush peppermint candies (candy canes) and either
    mix in or spread them on top. I usually make this in a 9" pan; it's a
    bit thinner but you can cut more pieces from it. (G)

    There are any number of vairations to that recipe. My personal
    preferences is "as written". If I am doing peppermint candies I'll
    buy a bag of Brach's which are available year-round unlike candy
    canes. Bv)=

    Here's a recipe I've made a couple times with decent success.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: White Chocolate Peppermint Fudge
    Categories: Dairy, Chocolate, Candy
    Yield: 2 pounds

    1 1/2 ts + 1/4 c butter; softened,
    - divided
    2 c White sugar
    1/2 c Sour cream
    12 oz White baking chocolate; in
    - 1 oz squares, chopped
    7 oz Jar marshmallow cream
    1/2 c Crushed peppermint candy
    1/2 ts Peppermint extract

    Line a 9" square pan with foil. Grease the foil with
    1 1/2 teaspoons butter; set aside.

    In a large heavy saucepan, combine sugar, sour cream and
    remaining 1/4 cup butter. Cook and stir over medium heat
    until sugar is dissolved. Bring to a rapid boil; cook

    and stir until a candy thermometer reads 235ºF/113ºC
    (soft-ball stage), about 5 minutes.

    Remove from the heat; stir in white chocolate and
    marshmallow creme until melted. Fold in peppermint candy
    and extract. Pour into prepared pan. Chill until firm.

    Using foil, lift fudge out of pan. Gently peel off foil;
    cut fudge into 1" squares. Store in the refrigerator.

    Sue Schindler, Barnesville, Minnesota

    Makes: 2 pounds

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 19 06:17:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Maybe he'll come around. Remember how he was with pork after being downwind of a pig sty or was that a factory farm?.

    It was a hog slop pond that had overflowed after a rain storm. He
    stayed off of pork for about 11 years. I'm not going to push the BhT
    issue as there are a lot of alternatives which there wasn't with pork.
    I'm glad he saw the light on that; makes my cooking so much easier. He still likes turkey bacon but doesn't insist that I eat it or use it in cooking; I can go "whole hog" (G) with real bacon.

    Turkey Bacon is salty and smoky but not very porky.

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery.
    If DD> I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't remember
    the DD> last time I bought Kraft mayo.

    First time we lived in NC, it was my "go to" mayo. Moved away when
    Steve joined the Army and landed in TX about 15 months later. Thought
    I'd be able to get it there but it was a no go. My neighbor, from
    Georgia, brought back several jars when she went home for Christmas and wouldn't take anything for it.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    I tried the Nu-Salt but went back to NaCl when I found that salt didn't affect my blood pressure. At the time it didn't keep my potassium level
    up either.

    I found that if one uses too much Nu Salt it gets bitter. I wouldn't

    That was another reason I gave it up, even a little tasted too bitter
    for me.

    use enough to affect my potassium levels. However the two potassium sulphate caplets I used to take every night to replace the potassium
    that was lost through use of Lasix (water pill) did cause my doctor
    to tkae note. So now I just take a single caplet every other night. If
    I start to have problems with muscle cramps again I'll increase tha frequency.

    I probably should keep some potassium on hand for muscle cramps, have found that mustard or a shot of vinegar works just as well. I've a
    packet of yellow mustard on my nightstand.

    I sometimes get cramps in my arms unrelated (I think) to the low potassium woes. I'll gulp down three coated, regular-sized (325 mg) aspirin and the
    cramp subsides in about five minutes.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    most often, I'll go for some form of chicken. My usual side at Popeyes
    is cole slaw.

    Popeye's cole slaw is pretty good. As is Kentucky Fried Colonel's.

    We rarely go to KFC, just isn't as good as Popeyes.

    Few chicken places are. The Colonel's former partner started a thing
    called "Lee's Famous Chicken" and their chicken was *much* better that
    KFC. But, they were out-marketed and have shrunk back to a regional
    mini-chain.

    I don't even notice the half slice of sheeze on the Mickey D's
    filet And Burger Whop's Whaler (fish sandwich) back in the 70s
    was much more to my taste than the current offering.

    Used to be a whole slice of cheese, and since it's the "American
    cheese", it doesn't add anything to the sandwich. But, I agree, the 70s sandwiches were much better so I usually go with chicken.

    I don't remember that. We've had McDuck's here since the early 60s. My
    Lenten season go-to was their "Filet Meal" with a fish sandwich, fries,
    and hot chocolate. And the cheese even back then was the half-slice. I
    asked the manager of my nearby store "Why the cheese?" and he shrugged
    and replied "Company Rules".

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    That was, no doubt, some years ago. My local B-R brags about their U$1 single scoop cones.

    That was in the mid 70s. We don't have a B-R nearby but do have a great home made ice cream place, took folks from the 2019 picnic there. A
    single (generous) scoop is $5. but Steve gets his free for being
    retired military. He usually has them add a couple of dollars to the
    "cop card" which pays for the free cones for military & first
    responders of all branches. I like to split my single scoop into 2 smaller; last week I had chocolate on the bottom and cinnamon (real,
    not the red candy) on the top.

    We've got more than Baskin-Robbins. Heck we used to have aHoward Johnsons
    I Scream store. These days you'd be hard pressed to find anything Ho-Jo's

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Howard Johnson Chicken Croquettes
    Categories: Poultry, Breads, Dairy, Chilies, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Salt & black pepper
    Cayenne pepper
    3 lb Chicken breasts; boned,
    - skinned
    pn Dry thyme leaves
    8 tb Butter
    1/2 Onion; diced
    Salt & white pepper
    3 Ribs celery; diced
    2 cl Chopped or minced garlic
    1/2 c Flour
    1 c Heated milk
    2 tb Chopped parsley
    Panko bread crumbs
    Oil; for deep-frying

    MMMMM-------------------------EQUIPMENT------------------------------
    Saucepan
    Whisk
    Wooden spoon
    Clean plates
    Baking sheet
    Paper towels

    Rinse the chicken breasts and set them on a paper towel to
    dry. Preheat the oven to 400ºF/205ºC. Put the chicken on a
    greased baking sheet and sprinkle it with salt, black
    pepper and cayenne pepper, then add the thyme leaves.

    Place the baking sheet into the oven for 15 minutes to
    roast the chicken breasts.

    Place the butter in a heated saucepan. Once melted, add
    the onion, salt, pepper and celery. Cook for two minutes.
    Add the garlic and cook for an additional minute.

    Add the flour to the butter, stirring it to coat the
    vegetables. Continue stirring the mixture consistently for
    four more minutes. Pour in the warmed milk while whisking,
    then simmer on the stovetop for about eight minutes.

    Chop up the roasted chicken into large pieces. Put the
    pieces into a food processor and pulse until the chicken
    is finely chopped. Put the pieces into a bowl, then add
    the saucepan contents. Add the chopped parsley and stir it
    up to mix thoroughly. The best way to combine the mixture
    is to knead it with your hands.

    Create and mold the mixture into small balls. Roll each
    ball in the panko bread crumbs and place them on wax paper
    that is on a baking sheet. Place in the refrigerator to
    let the croquettes set for about one hour before you
    deep-fry them.

    Place each croquette into the deep fryer (make sure it is
    at least 350ºF/175ºC) and cook them until the croquettes
    are golden brown. If you prefer them to be darker, keep
    them in the fryer a couple minutes longer. Remove the
    croquettes from the deep fryer and set on a clean plate.

    Tip: Top with creamed mushrooms if desired for added
    flavor.

    From: http://www.ehow.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 19 06:26:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Chicken Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Breads, Herbs, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good but I'll make mine mild.

    Popeyes regular (mild) chicken is decent. And now I have to be careful with what I get. I like the "original" spicy. But they've added a
    Ghost Pepper level .... talk about Light Up Your Life!!!

    I'll leave those for the nut cases. Years ago my one BIL ordered some wings, somewhere, as super extra spicy. When he picked them up, the
    whole kitchen crew came out to see who was the (insert adjective of choice) fool was that ordered the wings. He's since developed ulcers
    and can't eat the hot & spicy he used to.

    I know it seems counter-intuitive but capsaicin (the heat in chilies) is
    a treatment for bacterial ulcers.

    https://greengoscantina.com/can-you-eat-chili-if-you-have-an-ulcer/

    They're (Popeyes) doing some real deals on wings now. Like buy an
    order of six and get another order for just U$1. A guy could overload
    at that price point.

    Haven't seen that but nearest Popeyes is in Raleigh and not always on
    our path of travel down there.

    Popeye's is worth going out-of-route for.

    Different Popeye ....
    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Popeye's Blazin Heifer Sauce
    Categories: Dips, Chilies, Citrus
    Yield: 1 Quart

    2 c Soy sauce
    1 c Worcestershire sauce
    2 c Oil
    2 tb Black pepper
    4 tb Onion powder
    2 tb Garlic powder
    4 tb Salt
    1 c Lemon juice
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper; to taste
    1 c Cider vinegar
    1 1/2 c Brown sugar
    2 tb Dry mustard

    Combine all ingredients in a non-reactive vessel. Heat
    over, without boiling, and stir until well-combined.

    Use as a marinade, mop or dipping sauce. Store left-
    overs in the icebox.

    RECIPE FROM: Benson "Popeye" Jones, Popeye's BBQ

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Mike Powell on Mon Dec 18 14:24:21 2023
    Hi Mike,

    Tomatoes don't bother me which is good as I do a lot with them. Next week I'm planning to do a spice Moroccan chicken meal (clipped that recipe some years ago, has become a favorite) that calls for
    tomatoes as > well as garbanzoes, onions, lemon and spices like cumin, cinnamon and > coriander. I serve it over whole wheat couscous,
    usually doubling the > recipe so I can put extras in the freezer for
    quick meals.

    One thing about recipes from the Southern Mediterranean across to
    India is that they know how to mix things together to get a real good flavor.

    Very much so! On the first cruise Steve and I took (with his siblings
    and spouses) we boarded the ship in time for lunch. One of the entrees
    offered was a braised Mediterranian short rib; we both ordered and
    enjoyed it. That was the meal when all the men ordered apple pie for
    dessert, all the women ordered the chocolate cake. Both were good, as
    were all of the other meals we had on that trip. I understood that the
    menus were rotated on a 2 week basis so we never saw the short ribs
    again. That cruise was on a Celebrity Cruise line; the other 2 we've
    taken have been with Princess Cruise (The Love Boat) line.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Dec 19 14:35:41 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I usually make okay fudge in the microwave. Nothing fancy.

    Here's my go-to recipe for making fudge, It can probably be done in
    the nuker, although I've not tried.

    Title: Eagle Brand Chocolate Fudge
    Categories: Five, Dairy, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 64 Servings

    Sub in a bag (1 cup) of mint chips or 1 teaspoon of peppermint extract
    for the vanilla. Or, crush peppermint candies (candy canes) and either
    mix in or spread them on top. I usually make this in a 9" pan; it's a
    bit thinner but you can cut more pieces from it. (G)

    There are any number of vairations to that recipe. My personal
    preferences is "as written". If I am doing peppermint candies I'll
    buy a bag of Brach's which are available year-round unlike candy
    canes. Bv)=

    I usually only do fudge around this time of year when candy canes are plentiful. But, yes, the Brach's would work other times of the year.


    Here's a recipe I've made a couple times with decent success.


    Title: White Chocolate Peppermint Fudge
    Categories: Dairy, Chocolate, Candy
    Yield: 2 pounds

    Couple of weeks ago we were in Sam's Club and one of the tasting
    stations featured Lindt white chocolate peppermint balls. Good
    peppermint taste but it just didn't go with white chocolate; a dark
    would have been much better, milk acceptable for those that don't like
    dark.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Dec 19 14:40:01 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Maybe he'll come around. Remember how he was with pork after being downwind of a pig sty or was that a factory farm?.

    It was a hog slop pond that had overflowed after a rain storm. He
    stayed off of pork for about 11 years. I'm not going to push the BhT
    issue as there are a lot of alternatives which there wasn't with pork.
    I'm glad he saw the light on that; makes my cooking so much easier. He still likes turkey bacon but doesn't insist that I eat it or use it in cooking; I can go "whole hog" (G) with real bacon.

    Turkey Bacon is salty and smoky but not very porky.

    It doesn't have the mouth feel of real bacon.

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery.
    If DD> I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't
    remember RH> the DD> last time I bought Kraft mayo.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    use enough to affect my potassium levels. However the two potassium sulphate caplets I used to take every night to replace the potassium
    that was lost through use of Lasix (water pill) did cause my doctor
    to tkae note. So now I just take a single caplet every other night. If
    I start to have problems with muscle cramps again I'll increase tha frequency.

    I probably should keep some potassium on hand for muscle cramps, have found that mustard or a shot of vinegar works just as well. I've a
    packet of yellow mustard on my nightstand.

    I sometimes get cramps in my arms unrelated (I think) to the low
    potassium woes. I'll gulp down three coated, regular-sized (325 mg) aspirin and the cramp subsides in about five minutes.

    Most often I get them in the legs, usually after a lot of running up and
    down the front steps while loading or unloading the camper.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Popeye's cole slaw is pretty good. As is Kentucky Fried Colonel's.

    We rarely go to KFC, just isn't as good as Popeyes.

    Few chicken places are. The Colonel's former partner started a thing called "Lee's Famous Chicken" and their chicken was *much* better that KFC. But, they were out-marketed and have shrunk back to a regional mini-chain.

    Never saw a Lee's, guess we were in the wrong region.


    I don't even notice the half slice of sheeze on the Mickey D's
    filet And Burger Whop's Whaler (fish sandwich) back in the 70s
    was much more to my taste than the current offering.

    Used to be a whole slice of cheese, and since it's the "American
    cheese", it doesn't add anything to the sandwich. But, I agree, the 70s sandwiches were much better so I usually go with chicken.

    I don't remember that. We've had McDuck's here since the early 60s. My Lenten season go-to was their "Filet Meal" with a fish sandwich,
    fries, and hot chocolate. And the cheese even back then was the half-slice. I
    asked the manager of my nearby store "Why the cheese?" and he shrugged
    and replied "Company Rules".

    And a manager told me to ask for no cheese if that's what I wanted, then
    the sandwich would be made up fresh and hot.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    That was, no doubt, some years ago. My local B-R brags about their U$1 single scoop cones.

    That was in the mid 70s. We don't have a B-R nearby but do have a great home made ice cream place, took folks from the 2019 picnic there. A
    single (generous) scoop is $5. but Steve gets his free for being
    retired military. He usually has them add a couple of dollars to the
    "cop card" which pays for the free cones for military & first
    responders of all branches. I like to split my single scoop into 2 smaller; last week I had chocolate on the bottom and cinnamon (real,
    not the red candy) on the top.

    We've got more than Baskin-Robbins. Heck we used to have aHoward
    Johnsons I Scream store. These days you'd be hard pressed to find
    anything Ho-Jo's

    I see them every once in a while in our travels but haven't eaten at one
    since I was a kid.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Dec 19 14:46:03 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Popeyes regular (mild) chicken is decent. And now I have to be careful with what I get. I like the "original" spicy. But they've added a
    Ghost Pepper level .... talk about Light Up Your Life!!!

    I'll leave those for the nut cases. Years ago my one BIL ordered some wings, somewhere, as super extra spicy. When he picked them up, the
    whole kitchen crew came out to see who was the (insert adjective of choice) fool was that ordered the wings. He's since developed ulcers
    and can't eat the hot & spicy he used to.

    I know it seems counter-intuitive but capsaicin (the heat in chilies)
    is a treatment for bacterial ulcers.

    Don't know what kind he has but hot and spicy is off the menu. Also
    can't take any meds stronger than regular Tylenol.


    They're (Popeyes) doing some real deals on wings now. Like buy an
    order of six and get another order for just U$1. A guy could overload
    at that price point.

    Haven't seen that but nearest Popeyes is in Raleigh and not always on
    our path of travel down there.

    Popeye's is worth going out-of-route for.

    It's on the same plaza as Harbor Freight so we do get there from time to
    time. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 21 07:07:08 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Here's a recipe I've made a couple times with decent success.

    Title: White Chocolate Peppermint Fudge
    Categories: Dairy, Chocolate, Candy
    Yield: 2 pounds

    Couple of weeks ago we were in Sam's Club and one of the tasting
    stations featured Lindt white chocolate peppermint balls. Good
    peppermint taste but it just didn't go with white chocolate; a dark
    would have been much better, milk acceptable for those that don't like dark.

    For my money "white chocolate" is chocolate only by courtesy. It's
    made with cocoa butter not the real chocolatey stuff. Here's one that
    is called "fudge" without any sort opf cocoa or chocolate in sight.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Microwave Divinity Fudge
    Categories: Candy, Nuts
    Yield: 30 pieces

    2 lg Egg whites
    2 1/4 c Sugar
    1/2 c Water
    1/2 c Light corn syrup
    1/8 ts Salt
    1/2 c Chopped pecans
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla extract

    Place egg whites in the bowl of a heavy-duty stand
    mixer; let stand at room temperature for 30 minutes.

    In a microwave-safe 2 qt. bowl, combine the sugar,
    water, corn syrup and salt. Microwave, uncovered, on
    high for 4 minutes; stir until sugar is dissolved. Cook
    6-8 minutes longer or until a candy thermometer reads
    260ºF/127ºC (hard-ball stage), stirring every 2 minutes.
    Just before the temperature is reached, beat egg whites
    on medium speed until stiff peaks form.

    With mixer running on high speed, carefully pour hot
    syrup in a slow, steady stream into the bowl. Beat just
    until candy loses its gloss and holds its shape, 15-20
    minutes. Immediately stir in pecans and vanilla. (Do not
    overmix, or candy will get stiff and crumbly.)

    Working quickly, drop by tablespoonfuls onto waxed
    paper. Let stand at room temperature overnight or until
    dry to the touch. Store in an airtight container at room
    temperature.

    LaDonna Reed, Ponca City, Oklahoma

    Makes: 2 1/2 dozen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 21 07:09:37 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Turkey Bacon is salty and smoky but not very porky.

    It doesn't have the mouth feel of real bacon.

    When you cook it as crispy as I do there's not much to chjoose. Bv)=

    I can get Duke's at a local Sav-A-Lot (el Cheapo discount) Grocery.
    If DD> I can't find Ducke on the shelf I get Hellman's. Can't
    remember RH> the DD> last time I bought Kraft mayo.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    Popeye's cole slaw is pretty good. As is Kentucky Fried Colonel's.

    We rarely go to KFC, just isn't as good as Popeyes.

    Few chicken places are. The Colonel's former partner started a thing called "Lee's Famous Chicken" and their chicken was *much* better that KFC. But, they were out-marketed and have shrunk back to a regional mini-chain.

    Never saw a Lee's, guess we were in the wrong region.

    They're centered mostly in Kentucky and Ohio. Oddly, since the Corp Rat headquarters isa in Fort Walton Beach, Florida - there are only three
    of the Quick Serve stores there. None in your state.

    There used to was two stores here. I've no idea why they closed as the
    chicken was *always* better done than KFC (not greasy) and the stores
    were always busy when I visited.

    I don't even notice the half slice of sheeze on the Mickey D's
    filet. And Burger Whop's Whaler (fish sandwich) back in the 70s
    was much more to my taste than the current offering.

    Used to be a whole slice of cheese, and since it's the "American
    cheese", it doesn't add anything to the sandwich. But, I agree, the 70s sandwiches were much better so I usually go with chicken.

    I don't remember that. We've had McDuck's here since the early 60s. My Lenten season go-to was their "Filet Meal" with a fish sandwich,
    fries, and hot chocolate. And the cheese even back then was the half-slice. I asked the manager of my nearby store "Why the cheese?"
    and he shrugged then replied "Company Rules".

    And a manager told me to ask for no cheese if that's what I wanted,
    then the sandwich would be made up fresh and hot.

    There is that (unspoken) benefit to custom orders at a burger snatcher.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    That was, no doubt, some years ago. My local B-R brags about their U$1 single scoop cones.

    That was in the mid 70s. We don't have a B-R nearby but do have a great home made ice cream place, took folks from the 2019 picnic there. A
    single (generous) scoop is $5. but Steve gets his free for being
    retired military. He usually has them add a couple of dollars to the
    "cop card" which pays for the free cones for military & first
    responders of all branches. I like to split my single scoop into 2 smaller; last week I had chocolate on the bottom and cinnamon (real,
    not the red candy) on the top.

    Got to remember that mid-70s was *half* *a* *century* ago.

    We've got more than Baskin-Robbins. Heck we used to have aHoward
    Johnsons I Scream store. These days you'd be hard pressed to find
    anything Ho-Jo's

    I see them every once in a while in our travels but haven't eaten at
    one since I was a kid.

    They're nothing special. We've got a local place called "Scoop du Jour"
    which is pretty much like the I scream parlours of our youth. They eveb
    do I Scream Sodas.

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    Title: Old-Fashioned Ice Cream Sodas
    Categories: Five. choco, I scream, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3/4 c Chocolate syrup
    1 c Milk
    4 c Carbonated water; chilled
    8 Scoops chocolate ice cream;
    - divided
    Whipped cream

    Place 3 tablespoons chocolate syrup in each of four
    16-oz. glasses. Add 1/4 cup milk and 1 cup carbonated
    water to each; stir until foamy. Add two scoops of ice
    cream to each glass. Top with whipped cream if desired.

    Anna Erickson, Terrebonne, Oregon

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 21 07:11:58 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Popeyes regular (mild) chicken is decent. And now I have to be careful with what I get. I like the "original" spicy. But they've added a
    Ghost Pepper level .... talk about Light Up Your Life!!!

    I'll leave those for the nut cases. Years ago my one BIL ordered some wings, somewhere, as super extra spicy. When he picked them up, the
    whole kitchen crew came out to see who was the (insert adjective of choice) fool was that ordered the wings. He's since developed ulcers
    and can't eat the hot & spicy he used to.

    I know it seems counter-intuitive but capsaicin (the heat in chilies)
    is a treatment for bacterial ulcers.

    Don't know what kind he has but hot and spicy is off the menu. Also
    can't take any meds stronger than regular Tylenol.

    Poor guy. That has to suck .......

    They're (Popeyes) doing some real deals on wings now. Like buy an
    order of six and get another order for just U$1. A guy could overload
    at that price point.

    Haven't seen that but nearest Popeyes is in Raleigh and not always on
    our path of travel down there.

    Popeye's is worth going out-of-route for.

    It's on the same plaza as Harbor Freight so we do get there from time
    to time. (G)

    I stopped Tuesday after I got off work and picked up four Tuesday specials
    (leg and thigh) Had the four drumsticks for supper. Tonight I'll nuke up
    two of the thighs and a vegetable and do the last two thighs on Saturday.

    Back in the day the "Tuesday" was 99c. I paid U$11 and change for four
    of them. Inflation gone rampant. Not just with food. Itg's crazy nearly everywhere.

    I told a customer at AutoZone the other day "Only thing going down these
    days is your left-front tyre."

    Got a new source for Kopy Kat recipes. Much more on point than Gloria
    Pitzker.

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    Title: Copycat Popeyes Red Beans & Rice
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Chilies, Rice
    Yield: 10 servings

    45 1/2 oz (3 cans) red beans
    3/4 lb Smoked ham hock
    +=OR=+
    1/4 ts Liquid smoke
    1 1/4 c Water
    1/2 ts Onion powder
    1/2 ts Garlic salt
    1/4 ts Red pepper flakes
    1/2 ts Salt
    3 tb Lard
    1/4 ts Fresh ground pepper
    4 c Cooked long grain rice; to
    - serve

    Pour 2 cans of beans into a 2-quart saucepan along with
    the ham hock and water.

    Simmer on medium heat for an hour, until the meat starts
    to loosen from the bone.

    Remove from the heat and cool until the ham hock is cool
    enough to handle.

    Remove the meat from the bone, and place the meat,
    beans, and liquid from the pot in a food processor.

    Add the onion powder, garlic salt, red pepper flakes,
    salt, and lard.

    Process for only 4 seconds. The beans should be chopped
    and the liquid thick.

    Drain the remaining can of beans and add it to the
    processor.

    Process for just a second or two; you want these beans
    to remain almost whole.

    Pour everything back into the pan and cook slowly on low
    heat, stirring often, until you’re ready to serve.

    Serve over rice.

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 21 17:15:36 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Title: White Chocolate Peppermint Fudge
    Categories: Dairy, Chocolate, Candy
    Yield: 2 pounds

    Couple of weeks ago we were in Sam's Club and one of the tasting
    stations featured Lindt white chocolate peppermint balls. Good
    peppermint taste but it just didn't go with white chocolate; a dark
    would have been much better, milk acceptable for those that don't like dark.

    For my money "white chocolate" is chocolate only by courtesy. It's
    made with cocoa butter not the real chocolatey stuff. Here's one that
    is called "fudge" without any sort opf cocoa or chocolate in sight.

    I'll pass, I prefer chocolate fudge. Divinity is candy but not fudge.
    Stopped in an upscale grocery store in Raleigh today; they had Southern
    Supreme fruitcakes. They're the best ones we've found, beats all the
    others we've tried except maybe the one Steve's mom used to make.
    Headquarted in Bear Creek, NC, we went out several times to get our
    fruitckaes, order for Christmas gifts. A bit on the pricey side but
    worth it for the quality of the product.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 21 17:21:01 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Turkey Bacon is salty and smoky but not very porky.

    It doesn't have the mouth feel of real bacon.

    When you cook it as crispy as I do there's not much to chjoose. Bv)=

    Tried it but still would rather not spend my money on it.


    Never saw a Lee's, guess we were in the wrong region.

    They're centered mostly in Kentucky and Ohio. Oddly, since the Corp
    Rat headquarters isa in Fort Walton Beach, Florida - there are only
    three
    of the Quick Serve stores there. None in your state.

    We've got enough other places to go for good chicken. (G)

    There used to was two stores here. I've no idea why they closed as
    the DD> chicken was *always* better done than KFC (not greasy) and the
    stores DD> were always busy when I visited.

    Lenten season go-to was their "Filet Meal" with a fish sandwich,
    fries, and hot chocolate. And the cheese even back then was the half-slice. I asked the manager of my nearby store "Why the cheese?"
    and he shrugged then replied "Company Rules".

    And a manager told me to ask for no cheese if that's what I wanted,
    then the sandwich would be made up fresh and hot.

    There is that (unspoken) benefit to custom orders at a burger
    snatcher.

    Exactly!

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    driving . When I was working out of town last summer I'd stop at the
    local DQ for a medium chocolate shake to make the 30 mile drive home
    more tolerable. It would last me city limits to city limits unless I
    was risking "brain-freeze". Bv)=

    Tasted pretty good on a hot day too. Our ice cream intake definately
    goes up during the summer but not as much as it did when we were first married. We'd get a $.15 double scoop cone every week after doing
    laundry, occaisionally going for the 4 scoops for $.25. I think once or twice we got the 6 scoops for $.35--that impressed my sister so much
    when she came to visit once that she went back the next night for
    another 6 scoop cone.

    That was, no doubt, some years ago. My local B-R brags about their U$1 single scoop cones.

    Full size scoop? If so, great deal.


    That was in the mid 70s. We don't have a B-R nearby but do have a great home made ice cream place, took folks from the 2019 picnic there. A
    single (generous) scoop is $5. but Steve gets his free for being
    retired military. He usually has them add a couple of dollars to the
    "cop card" which pays for the free cones for military & first
    responders of all branches. I like to split my single scoop into 2 smaller; last week I had chocolate on the bottom and cinnamon (real,
    not the red candy) on the top.

    Got to remember that mid-70s was *half* *a* *century* ago.

    We've got more than Baskin-Robbins. Heck we used to have aHoward
    Johnsons I Scream store. These days you'd be hard pressed to find
    anything Ho-Jo's

    I see them every once in a while in our travels but haven't eaten at
    one since I was a kid.

    They're nothing special. We've got a local place called "Scoop du
    Jour" which is pretty much like the I scream parlours of our youth.
    They eveb do I Scream Sodas.

    Lumpy's doesn't do sodas but does do shakes.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 21 17:25:25 2023
    Hi Dave,


    They're (Popeyes) doing some real deals on wings now. Like buy an
    order of six and get another order for just U$1. A guy could overload
    at that price point.

    Haven't seen that but nearest Popeyes is in Raleigh and not always on
    our path of travel down there.

    Popeye's is worth going out-of-route for.

    It's on the same plaza as Harbor Freight so we do get there from time
    to time. (G)

    I stopped Tuesday after I got off work and picked up four Tuesday
    specials (leg and thigh) Had the four drumsticks for supper. Tonight
    I'll nuke up two of the thighs and a vegetable and do the last two
    thighs on Saturday.

    Sounds good; we're doing left over chicken soup since we had the big
    meal earlier today.


    Back in the day the "Tuesday" was 99c. I paid U$11 and change for
    four of them. Inflation gone rampant. Not just with food. Itg's crazy nearly everywhere.

    And there's no inflation. Right! And I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for
    sale, cheap. (G)

    Got a new source for Kopy Kat recipes. Much more on point than Gloria Pitzker.

    Sounds good.


    Title: Copycat Popeyes Red Beans & Rice
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Chilies, Rice
    Yield: 10 servings

    My "go to" is a red rice recipe Dale sent me some years ago, South
    Carolina style.

    ---
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 23 06:52:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds good; we're doing left over chicken soup since we had the big
    meal earlier today.

    I see that Humphrey's has "leg quarters" in a 10# bag for 49c/lb. Time
    to start a fresh batch of chicken stock and pulled chicken.

    Back in the day the "Tuesday" was 99c. I paid U$11 and change for
    four of them. Inflation gone rampant. Not just with food. Itg's crazy nearly everywhere.

    And there's no inflation. Right! And I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, cheap. (G)

    Been there. Brooklyn Used Dental Appliances. Right?

    Got a new source for Kopy Kat recipes. Much more on point than Gloria Pitzker.

    Sounds good.

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Red Beans & Rice
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Chilies, Rice
    Yield: 10 servings

    My "go to" is a red rice recipe Dale sent me some years ago, South Carolina style.

    One of my favourite chicken soups ........

    And in additional post a red rice recipe I've saved and put on my "round
    tuit" list

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    Title: Greek Lemon Chicken Soup (Avgolemono)
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Rice, Citrus
    Yield: 5 servings

    4 c Water
    2 lb Bone-in, skin-on chicken
    - thighs and/or legs
    1 md White onion, quartered
    2 lg Carrots; in chunks
    2 Ribs celery; in chunks
    2 Bay leaves
    1/4 c Long-grain white rice;
    - rinsed, drained
    1 Egg white; room temp
    3 Egg yolks; room temp
    1 tb Lemon zest
    1/4 c Lemon juice
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    Fresh parsley, dill &
    - oregano; garnish (opt)
    Fresh lemon zest; garnish
    - (opt)

    PREPARE THE CHICKEN BROTH: In a large soup pot, combine
    the water, chicken, onion, carrots, celery and bay
    leaves. Bring to a boil over medium-high heat and then
    reduce to a simmer. Let cook for 2-3 hours, skimming
    foam from the top, as needed, until a rich chicken broth
    forms. (Learn more about making chicken broth, if this
    is new to you.)

    After 2-3 hours, discard the veggies and bay leaves and
    remove the chicken from the broth. Separate the chicken
    meat from the skin and bones, shred and set aside.

    Step 3: Cook the rice Remove 1 cup of broth from the
    stockpot and set aside. Then, bring the remaining broth
    back to a boil and add the rice. Reduce to a simmer and
    cook the rice until tender, about 15-20 minutes.

    EDITOR'S TIP: You may be tempted to skip rinsing your
    rice, but please, don't. Rinsing the rice removes
    surface starch from individual grains, which can cause
    them to become gummy as they cook and clump together.
    For fluffy rice with a better texture, always rinse!

    PREPARE THE AVGOLEMONO: While the rice cooks, prepare
    the avgolemono. In a stand mixer fitted with a whisk
    attachment, beat the egg whites to soft peaks; it will
    take 2-3 minutes.

    Then, add the egg yolks and beat for another 1-2 minutes
    until frothy. Slowly add the lemon juice and zest and
    stir to combine. Then, temper the lemon-egg mixture by
    gradually adding the reserved cup of hot broth to the
    mixer in a slow, steady stream while whisking
    continuously. Continue to beat the mixture until
    well-blended; 1-2 minutes.

    ADD AVGOLEMONO TO SOUP: Slowly transfer the avgolemono
    to the pot of broth and fully cooked rice on the stove.
    Stir to combine and then bring the soup to a simmer. Add
    salt and pepper and cook for 10-12 minutes, or until the
    soup thickens.

    Ladle the soup into bowls and top with a bit of the
    reserved shredded chicken, if desired. Garnish with
    fresh parsley, dill, oregano and lemon zest, and serve
    with crusty bread.

    NOTE: You can save a lot of time by opting for a
    high-quality store-bought chicken broth rather than
    making your own. Simply pick up this recipe at Step 3
    if using store-bought broth.

    UDD NOTE: Broth is easy and easily done on an otherwise
    lazy Saturday afternoon. And making the broth also gives
    you the shredded chicken for many recipes.

    Lauren Habermehl, Mikwaukee, Wisconsin

    Makes: 4 - 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 23 06:52:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: White Chocolate Peppermint Fudge
    Categories: Dairy, Chocolate, Candy
    Yield: 2 pounds

    Couple of weeks ago we were in Sam's Club and one of the tasting
    stations featured Lindt white chocolate peppermint balls. Good
    peppermint taste but it just didn't go with white chocolate; a dark
    would have been much better, milk acceptable for those that don't like dark.

    For my money "white chocolate" is chocolate only by courtesy. It's
    made with cocoa butter not the real chocolatey stuff. Here's one that
    is called "fudge" without any sort opf cocoa or chocolate in sight.

    I'll pass, I prefer chocolate fudge. Divinity is candy but not fudge. Stopped in an upscale grocery store in Raleigh today; they had Southern Supreme fruitcakes. They're the best ones we've found, beats all the others we've tried except maybe the one Steve's mom used to make. Headquarted in Bear Creek, NC, we went out several times to get our fruitckaes, order for Christmas gifts. A bit on the pricey side but
    worth it for the quality of the product.

    I'm with you there. Chocolate/cocoa based fudge is the only *real* deal
    AFAIAC.

    I've, no doubt posted this recipe beforre. It's the first fudge I ever
    had in my Grandmother's kitchen. Itg was her Go-To recipe ... fraam the
    lable on a can of Borden's Condensed Milk.

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    Title: Eagle Brand Chocolate Fudge
    Categories: Five, Dairy, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 64 Servings

    3 c (18 oz) semi-sweet chocolate
    - chips
    14 oz Can Eagle Brand Sweetened
    - Condensed Milk
    ds Salt
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    64 Pecan halves

    Line an 8" pan with waxes paper.

    Melt chocolate chips with sweetened condensed milk and
    salt in heavy saucepan. Remove from heat and stir in
    vanilla. Spread evenly in prepared pan.

    When fudge has started to "set" place a pecan half on
    each square inch of the surface.

    Chill 2 hours or until firm. Remove from pan by lifting
    edges of wax paper; peel off paper. Cut into 1" squares.

    NOTE: Pecans added by Uncle Dirty Dave. Rest of recipe
    is "as written". The pecans are optional except in my
    kitchen where they are mandatory.

    Yield: 2 pounds

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.eaglebrand.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 23 06:53:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As thrreatened in the previous post .....

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    Title: Charleston Red Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    Nonstick cooking spray
    6 sl Bacon
    1 md Sweet onion; chopped
    2 Celery ribs; chopped
    1 lg Bell pepper; chopped
    1 ts Kosher salt; more to taste
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    2 c Long-grain or Carolina gold
    - rice; rinsed until water
    - runs clear
    14 oz Can tomato puree
    1 1/2 c Chicken stock; more as
    - needed
    1 tb Hot sauce
    1 ts Cajun seasoning
    1 ts Granulated sugar
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    pn Ground cayenne
    Parsley leaves; garnish

    Set oven @ 350-|F/175-|C and coat a 9" X 13" baking dish
    with cooking spray.

    In a large (12") heavy skillet over medium heat, fry the
    bacon until crisp, about 3 minutes per side. Remove the
    bacon to paper towels to drain, leaving behind
    drippings. Crumble the bacon and set aside.

    In the same skillet, add the chopped onion, celery, bell
    pepper and 1 teaspoon salt, and saut|- until the onion is
    translucent, about 5 minutes. Add garlic and saut|- until
    fragrant, another 30 seconds.

    To the skillet, add the rinsed rice. Stir and toast the
    rice for 30 seconds. Add the crumbled bacon, tomato
    pur|-e, stock, hot sauce, Cajun seasoning, sugar, pepper
    and cayenne.

    Bring the rice and vegetables to a boil, then reduce the
    heat to low and simmer for about 5 minutes. Taste and
    add salt, if needed.

    Carefully transfer ingredients to the greased baking
    dish. Cover the baking dish tightly with foil, and bake
    until the rice is tender, about 40 to 50 minutes. Check
    the rice after about 30 minutes to make sure all the
    liquid is absorbed, and the rice is tender. (If it's too
    dry or not cooked all the way through, add a few
    tablespoons of water or stock at a time, if necessary,
    and cook a little longer.) Fluff with a fork before
    serving and garnish with parsley leaves.

    By: Millie Peartree

    Yield: 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 23 14:18:27 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Sounds good; we're doing left over chicken soup since we had the big
    meal earlier today.

    I see that Humphrey's has "leg quarters" in a 10# bag for 49c/lb. Time
    to start a fresh batch of chicken stock and pulled chicken.

    Sounds good to me. I've got to get some breast halves--want to try
    chicken picotta and don't have anything but leg/thigh quarters in the
    freezer.

    Back in the day the "Tuesday" was 99c. I paid U$11 and change for
    four of them. Inflation gone rampant. Not just with food. Itg's
    crazy DD> nearly everywhere.

    And there's no inflation. Right! And I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, cheap. (G)

    Been there. Brooklyn Used Dental Appliances. Right?

    Yup!


    Got a new source for Kopy Kat recipes. Much more on point than Gloria Pitzker.

    Sounds good.

    Title: Copycat Popeyes Red Beans & Rice
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Chilies, Rice
    Yield: 10 servings

    My "go to" is a red rice recipe Dale sent me some years ago, South Carolina style.

    One of my favourite chicken soups ........

    And in additional post a red rice recipe I've saved and put on my
    "round tuit" list

    I'll check it out. Right now I've got an Ocracoke Fig Cake in the oven
    for a pot luck at church tomorrow. Made it with fig preserves I put up
    earlier in the year.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 23 14:22:18 2023
    Hi Dave,


    For my money "white chocolate" is chocolate only by courtesy. It's
    made with cocoa butter not the real chocolatey stuff. Here's one that
    is called "fudge" without any sort opf cocoa or chocolate in sight.

    I'll pass, I prefer chocolate fudge. Divinity is candy but not fudge. Stopped in an upscale grocery store in Raleigh today; they had Southern Supreme fruitcakes. They're the best ones we've found, beats all the others we've tried except maybe the one Steve's mom used to make. Headquarted in Bear Creek, NC, we went out several times to get our fruitckaes, order for Christmas gifts. A bit on the pricey side but
    worth it for the quality of the product.

    I'm with you there. Chocolate/cocoa based fudge is the only *real*
    deal AFAIAC.

    Same here but I add the touch of mint.


    I've, no doubt posted this recipe beforre. It's the first fudge I ever
    had in my Grandmother's kitchen. Itg was her Go-To recipe ... fraam
    the lable on a can of Borden's Condensed Milk.


    Title: Eagle Brand Chocolate Fudge
    Categories: Five, Dairy, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 64 Servings

    It's the one I've always used too. Quick and easy but so good.....

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 23 14:24:40 2023
    Hi Dave,


    As thrreatened in the previous post .....


    Title: Charleston Red Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    Similar to what I have.

    Nonstick cooking spray
    6 sl Bacon

    Sausage is good too, for a slight change of taste.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 25 06:10:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As thrreatened in the previous post .....

    Title: Charleston Red Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    Similar to what I have.

    Nonstick cooking spray
    6 sl Bacon

    Sausage is good too, for a slight change of taste.

    WEll, yeaaaaaah. As long ass it's andouille orr similar. Italian or
    chorizo would throw the flavour profile waaaay off. Bob Evans breakfast
    SauSAGE or Jimmy Dean's without extra sage would work.

    I've had Popeyes red beans & rice .... and it's one of their few "fail"
    items. Along with their "Cajun" rice - which is just dirty rrice when
    it's home in its jammies. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Dirty Rice
    Categories: Cajun, Rice, Poultry, Offal, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 c Louisiana long grain rice;
    - or basmati/Texmati rice
    2 c Chicken broth
    2 c Water
    3 tb Oil
    1/2 lb Ground pork
    +=AND=+
    1/2 lb Ground chicken gizzards
    +=OR=+
    1 lb Ground chicken gizzards
    3 sl Bacon; chopped
    1/2 lg Onion; chopped
    2 Celery ribs; chopped
    1 (to 3) jalapeños; seeded,
    - chopped
    1 tb Cajun seasoning *
    2 Green onions; chopped

    * I switch back & forth between Louisiana Fish Fry
    (orange container) Products and Tony Chachere's (green
    container) Creole Seasoning - whichever I find in the
    cabinet first.

    Cook the rice according to the package instructions,
    but use chicken broth for one third of the cooking
    liquid. So, for example, if the package says to use 3
    cups of water for 1 1/2 cups of rice, use 2 cups of
    water and 1 cup of chicken broth.

    Once the rice has finished cooking, remove from heat
    and let sit for 5 minutes. Turn the rice out onto a
    sheet pan and drizzle 1 tablespoon of olive oil over it.
    Mix to combine and let cool.

    While the rice is cooking, finely chop the chicken
    gizzards, or puree briefly in a blender. In a large pan
    that can eventually hold the rice plus everything else,
    put 1 tb of oil plus the bacon in and cook over medium-
    low heat until the bacon is crispy.

    Add the ground pork (if using) and increase the heat to
    high. Allow the meat to brown before stirring. As soon
    as the pork starts to brown, add the final tablespoon
    of oil and add the celery, jalapenos, and onions.

    Brown them all over medium-high heat.

    You will notice the bottom of the pan is getting crusty.
    Keep it from burning by lowering the heat if needed. Add
    the minced gizzards and cook for a few minutes more.

    Add the remaining cup of chicken broth and deglaze the
    pan by scraping the bottom of the pan with a wooden
    spoon. Add the Cajun seasoning and turn the heat to high.
    Boil away most of the chicken stock and then add the
    cooked rice. Toss to combine.

    Turn off the heat and add the green onions. Toss once
    more to combine and serve hot.

    Serves 4.

    From: Dirty Dave's adaptive mind - which will file the
    serial numbers off of any recipe and call it his own.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 25 06:17:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds good; we're doing left over chicken soup since we had the
    big meal earlier today.

    I see that Humphrey's has "leg quarters" in a 10# bag for 49c/lb.
    Time to start a fresh batch of chicken stock and pulled chicken.

    Sounds good to me. I've got to get some breast halves--want to try
    chicken picotta and don't have anything but leg/thigh quarters in the freezer.

    What is "picotta"? Iss it a 'typo'? Or a mash-up between 'picante' & 'ricotta'? Or a fat-finger for 'picante'?

    86 that! It's very early Xmas morning. It's an "o" instead of an "a" in 'piccata' I do chicken picatta using dark meat. And leave out the little
    salt bombs (capers). Which used to get MLoo all excited.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken Piccata
    Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Wine
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 Chicken breast halves or
    - thighs; 4 to 6 oz each
    - boned, skinned
    1/3 c Flour
    2 tb Grated Parmesan cheese
    Salt & pepper
    4 tb Butter
    4 tb Olive oil

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    3 tb Lemon juice
    1 Lemon; sliced 1/4" thick
    1/2 c Chicken stock
    +=OR=+
    1/2 c Dry white wine
    1/4 c Scallions; stems & bulbs *
    - chopped
    Light cream (opt)

    MMMMM--------------------------GARNISH-------------------------------
    1/4 c Chopped parsley
    Chopped Scallion tops (opt)

    * You can sub bottled capers for the scallions if you must
    have capers in your piccata. But they are not necessary.

    Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
    thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
    pin and really lean into it).

    Mix the flour, S&P, and Parmesan well. Rinse the chicken
    breast halves under cold, running water. Dredge each half
    through the mixture until well coated.

    COOK THE CHOOK:

    Heat the olive oil and 2 TB butter in a large skillet on
    med-high heat. Add the floured chicken pieces. Brown well
    on each side, about 3 - 3 1/2 minutes per side. Remove
    from skillet and cover with aluminum foil. Keep warm in
    the oven while preparing the sauce.

    MAKE THE SAUCE:

    Deglaze the pan using white wine (or chicken stock) and
    lemon juice, add scallions and sliced lemon to the pan.
    Use a spatula to scrape up the browned bits. Reduce the
    sauce by half. w/hisk in the remaining 2 Tbsp of butter.

    Plate the chicken and serve with the sauce poured over
    the chicken. Sprinkle with parsley. Accompany with a
    side serve of pasta (dressed w/basil aioli?) or (real)
    rice.

    Serves 2

    MM Format by Dave Drum; 15 February 2008

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 25 12:27:52 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Title: Charleston Red Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    Similar to what I have.

    Nonstick cooking spray
    6 sl Bacon

    Sausage is good too, for a slight change of taste.

    WEll, yeaaaaaah. As long ass it's andouille orr similar. Italian or chorizo would throw the flavour profile waaaay off. Bob Evans
    breakfast SauSAGE or Jimmy Dean's without extra sage would work.

    About what I was thinking--something that would go with the rest of the flavors. I'd probably use a breakfast type sausage.

    I've had Popeyes red beans & rice .... and it's one of their few
    "fail" items. Along with their "Cajun" rice - which is just dirty
    rrice when DD> it's home in its jammies. Bv)=

    I'd rather have the veggies of cole slaw than the carbs of beans and
    rice. Been doing good on my morning b/g checks the past few weeks, think
    things are finally getting back on track after all the travel we did
    this fall. We were doing a lot of sandwich type meals for lunch, late
    suppers while on the road--not good for the b/g.

    Title: Dirty Dave's Dirty Rice
    Categories: Cajun, Rice, Poultry, Offal, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    From: Dirty Dave's adaptive mind - which will file the
    serial numbers off of any recipe and call it his own.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    I'll adapt to a certain point and then call it my own. Did that with my
    lemon pound cake, haven't (other than using whole wheat pastry flour)
    with the Ocracoke fig cake I've made a couple of times. I'll be making
    more of that over the years, especially when the fig tree puts out as abundantly as it did this past summer.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 25 12:53:35 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I see that Humphrey's has "leg quarters" in a 10# bag for 49c/lb.
    Time to start a fresh batch of chicken stock and pulled chicken.

    Sounds good to me. I've got to get some breast halves--want to try
    chicken picotta and don't have anything but leg/thigh quarters in the freezer.

    What is "picotta"? Iss it a 'typo'? Or a mash-up between 'picante' & 'ricotta'? Or a fat-finger for 'picante'?

    86 that! It's very early Xmas morning. It's an "o" instead of an "a"
    in 'piccata' I do chicken picatta using dark meat. And leave out the little salt bombs (capers). Which used to get MLoo all excited.

    Yes, the way we pronounce it, it's with more of an "o" sound than "a" so
    that's the way I spelled it. Yes, mine will have the capers in it. One
    of the men in our Legion post makes it for a lot of our pot luck meals;
    I've not been able to get the recipe from him. Found some on line that
    look similar, and yes, with the capers, so I will use them. Last month
    when we were in western NY we went out to an Italian restaurant with
    Steve's mom and siblings--I saw picatta on the menu and got it, yes it
    also had capers. I used dark meat for the Moroccan chicken I made last
    week (called for white) so I'm down to just leg/thigh quarters in the
    freezer so will probably pick up some white meat when we do some
    shopping later this week.


    Title: Chicken Piccata
    Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Wine
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 Chicken breast halves or
    - thighs; 4 to 6 oz each
    - boned, skinned

    I may cut my chicken into strips and mix it with noodles the way our
    friend does it. That, and a green salad will be a good meal. Yes, I do
    use wine--for cooking only, not drinking.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 27 06:29:15 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: Charleston Red Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    Similar to what I have.

    Nonstick cooking spray
    6 sl Bacon

    Sausage is good too, for a slight change of taste.

    WEll, yeaaaaaah. As long ass it's andouille orr similar. Italian or chorizo would throw the flavour profile waaaay off. Bob Evans
    breakfast SauSAGE or Jimmy Dean's without extra sage would work.

    About what I was thinking--something that would go with the rest
    of the flavors. I'd probably use a breakfast type sausage.

    As would I - if ever Im make it. The sausage would, no doubt, come from Humphrey's, fresh made daily.

    I've had Popeyes red beans & rice .... and it's one of their few
    "fail" items. Along with their "Cajun" rice - which is just dirty
    rrice when DD> it's home in its jammies. Bv)=

    I'd rather have the veggies of cole slaw than the carbs of beans and
    rice. Been doing good on my morning b/g checks the past few weeks,
    think things are finally getting back on track after all the travel we
    did this fall. We were doing a lot of sandwich type meals for lunch,
    late suppers while on the road--not good for the b/g.

    I do Popeyes cole's law. Bv)= And swap the nasty (to me) French frries
    for mash and "Cajun" gravy. My morning blod sugar checks run consistent
    at/near the 95 to 105 range. Unless my croakers have me on prednisonme
    which mucks up bothj my BP and sweetness numberrs.

    Title: Dirty Dave's Dirty Rice
    Categories: Cajun, Rice, Poultry, Offal, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    From: Dirty Dave's adaptive mind - which will file the
    serial numbers off of any recipe and call it his own.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    I'll adapt to a certain point and then call it my own. Did that with my lemon pound cake, haven't (other than using whole wheat pastry flour)
    with the Ocracoke fig cake I've made a couple of times. I'll be making more of that over the years, especially when the fig tree puts out as abundantly as it did this past summer.

    That particular recipe is a mash-up of several, based on an Emeril recipe
    and using speci9al "tweaks" frrom several other sources as well as my own ideas. So, it's /mine. Otherr people make theirs their way. Bv)=

    Sort of like chilli. There are as many versions of chilli as there are
    chilli cooks.

    BTW - if you notice ny odd typographical errors ... I bought a new
    keyboard after getting a glass of lemonade spilled on my nmice Keytronics
    I prefer the mechanical boards to the "chicklet" (cheapy) style boards
    which don't feel "right" when typinmg. But, I'll not buy a "gaming" unit
    again. Waaaaaaay too sensitive. Almost just have to look at a letter ansd
    it appears on the screen. Or brush past it on the way to another key. or
    have it tthrow ddoubles on letters .... I'll eventually get used to it. Meanwhile I'm, on the lookouit ffor anothr Keytronics - either USB or PS2 hookup.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Key West Conch Chowder
    Categories: Soups, Seafood, Potatoes, Pork
    Yield: 8 Servings

    2 c Conch; ground three times
    4 c Potatoes; peeled diced
    2 qt Water
    1/4 lb Salt-cured pork; diced
    2 md Onions; chopped
    1 lg Bell pepper; chopped
    1 c Tomatoes; drained
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Fresh ground pepper

    Place ground conch in 4 quart saucepan; add potatoes
    and water. Bring to a boil; reduce heat, and simmer
    for 30 minutes. Fry pork in heavy skillet; add onion
    and green pepper. Saute 5 minutes; add to kettle along
    with tomatoes.

    Season to taste; cover and simmer about 45 minutes, or
    until conch is tender and potatoes have dissolved and
    thickened the chowder.

    Note: On the West Coast, abalone can be substituted for
    the conch.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 27 07:34:08 2023
    Yes, the way we pronounce it, it's with more of an "o" sound than "a"
    so that's the way I spelled it. Yes, mine will have the capers in it.
    One of the men in our Legion post makes it for a lot of our pot luck meals; I've not been able to get the recipe from him. Found some on
    line that look similar, and yes, with the capers, so I will use them.
    Last month when we were in western NY we went out to an Italian
    restaurant with Steve's mom and siblings--I saw picatta on the menu and got it, yes it also had capers. I used dark meat for the Moroccan
    chicken I made last week (called for white) so I'm down to just
    leg/thigh quarters in the freezer so will probably pick up some white
    meat when we do some shopping later this week.

    I do keep capers (a small bottle) and will make them available to guests
    who, like MLOO, insist on having salt bombs with their piccata.

    Title: Chicken Piccata
    Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Wine
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 Chicken breast halves or
    - thighs; 4 to 6 oz each
    - boned, skinned

    I may cut my chicken into strips and mix it with noodles the way our friend does it. That, and a green salad will be a good meal. Yes, I do
    use wine--for cooking only, not drinking.

    Sounds like me. But for different reasons. You have religious scruples
    whereas I just don't have a taste for it. Same for beer or hard liquor.
    They are "social" things. It's been over 5 years since I had a drink
    of anything alcoholic.

    I've told people for many years the the alcohol "cooks out" od wine or
    hooch used in cooking. Turns out that's not entirely true. Some residual alcohol may remain evewn after long cooking according to A Washington
    Post article that showed up in my newss feed. Talk about an "eye opened"
    http://tinyurl.com/86-D-BOOZE

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grilled Venison Chop w/Chestnut Twice Baked Potato
    Categories: Game, Potatoes, Fruits, Nuts, Booze
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lg Idaho baking potatoes
    1 lb Chestnuts
    2 Sprigs thyme
    3 c Milk
    1 lg Egg yolk
    ds Salt
    ds Pepper
    3 tb Chopped parsley

    MMMMM--------------------ARCTIC BERRY CHUTNEY-------------------------
    1/2 tb Sherry vinegar
    1 tb Brown sugar
    1 ts Curry powder
    1/2 ts Grated ginger
    1 Cinnamon stick
    1 Star anise
    1 Lime; zest of
    1 Shallot; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; chopped
    2 ts Oil
    2 tb Lingonberries
    1 tb Black currants
    2 tb Dried cranberries
    2 tb Blueberries
    1 tb Diced dried apricots
    1/2 c Orange juice
    1 tb Dijon mustard

    MMMMM------------------------VENISON CHOP-----------------------------
    4 Venison rib chops
    1 c Oil
    2 Allspice seeds
    1 tb Aquavit or gin

    Scrub the potatoes and pat dry. Prick the skins several
    times with a fork. Bake the potatoes for 20 minutes in
    a 350ºF/175ºC oven.

    Slice chestnuts with a very sharp knife approximately
    1/4" and place on a roasting pan.

    Bake for 25 minutes (may be prepared up to one day in
    advance).

    Peel the chestnuts husks carefully away from the meat.
    Combine meats with thyme sprigs and milk in a large
    sauce pan. Simmer for 8 minutes. Remove thyme, strain
    chestnuts and reserve.

    Cut baked potatoes in half lengthwise. Scrape out the
    inside of each potato, leaving approximately 1/4"
    thickness around skin and reserve. Mash hollowed potato
    and chestnuts gently with a masher until chunky smooth.
    Fold in egg yolk and parsley and add salt and pepper to
    taste.

    Place filled shells on an ungreased cookie sheet and
    fill with potato mixture. Bake uncovered in a 350ºF/
    175ºC oven until golden brown (approx 8 minutes).

    In a deep bowl, marinate venison chop for 24 hours in
    a marinade of oil, allspice and aquavit or gin.

    Remove chops from marinade. Heat grilling pan or cast-
    iron or other heavy bottomed skillet over medium high
    heat until very hot.

    Place chops in pan and sear each side for approximately
    5 minutes.

    In a large bowl, combine vinegar, sugar, curry, ginger,
    cinnamon stick, star anise and lime zest and mix well.

    Sweat shallots and garlic in a 12" skillet with oil for
    about 10 minutes.

    Add dry ingredients to pan and allow to caramelize.

    Stir in berries and dried apricots and continue cooking
    over medium heat for 3 minutes. Add orange juice and
    simmer for 15 to 20 min, stirring occasionally.

    Remove pan from the heat and stir in mustard.

    Chutney can be stored in a sealed container in the ice
    box for up to two weeks.

    To serve: Spoon several tablespoons chutney on plate
    and place grilled venison chop on top.

    Recipe by: Chef du Jour - Marcus Samuelsson; TVFN

    From: Ed Bauman

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 27 11:59:24 2023
    Hi Dave,


    About what I was thinking--something that would go with the rest
    of the flavors. I'd probably use a breakfast type sausage.

    As would I - if ever Im make it. The sausage would, no doubt, come
    from Humphrey's, fresh made daily.

    We don't have Humphrey's around but do understand there's a local
    butcher. Need to check them out and see what they offer, understand
    Tuesdays are their sal days.


    I've had Popeyes red beans & rice .... and it's one of their few
    "fail" items. Along with their "Cajun" rice - which is just dirty
    rrice when DD> it's home in its jammies. Bv)=

    I'd rather have the veggies of cole slaw than the carbs of beans and
    rice. Been doing good on my morning b/g checks the past few weeks,
    think things are finally getting back on track after all the travel we
    did this fall. We were doing a lot of sandwich type meals for lunch,
    late suppers while on the road--not good for the b/g.

    I do Popeyes cole's law. Bv)= And swap the nasty (to me) French
    frries for mash and "Cajun" gravy. My morning blod sugar checks run consistent at/near the 95 to 105 range. Unless my croakers have me on prednisonme
    which mucks up bothj my BP and sweetness numberrs.

    I know, I've had "bursts" of prednisone when the asthma has flared or
    morphed into bronchitis. Having had problems with long term prednisone
    use 20+ years ago, I now ask for no more than 10 days worth, doing a
    taper. Helps knock down the crud but doesn't give long term side
    effects.


    Title: Dirty Dave's Dirty Rice
    Categories: Cajun, Rice, Poultry, Offal, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    From: Dirty Dave's adaptive mind - which will file the
    serial numbers off of any recipe and call it his own.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    I'll adapt to a certain point and then call it my own. Did that with my lemon pound cake, haven't (other than using whole wheat pastry flour)
    with the Ocracoke fig cake I've made a couple of times. I'll be making more of that over the years, especially when the fig tree puts out as abundantly as it did this past summer.

    That particular recipe is a mash-up of several, based on an Emeril
    recipe and using speci9al "tweaks" frrom several other sources as well
    as my own ideas. So, it's /mine. Otherr people make theirs their way.
    Bv)=

    Sort of like chilli. There are as many versions of chilli as there are chilli cooks.

    True, I make 2 different versions myself. Depends on who I'm cooking for
    as to what I'll make but if I make the mild version, I'll bring along
    different powdered peppers and/or hot sauces for people to add their own
    kick. Once brought powdered habenero, just labeled "hab", one guy
    thought it said "hot" and was liberal with his use of it in his bowl.
    Yes, it was quite hot. (G)

    BTW - if you notice ny odd typographical errors ... I bought a new keyboard after getting a glass of lemonade spilled on my nmice DD>
    Keytronics I prefer the mechanical boards to the "chicklet" (cheapy)
    style boards DD> which don't feel "right" when typinmg. But, I'll
    not buy a "gaming" DD> unit again. Waaaaaaay too sensitive. Almost just
    have to look at a DD> letter ansd it appears on the screen. Or brush
    past it on the way to DD> another key. or have it tthrow ddoubles on
    letters .... I'll DD> eventually get used to it. Meanwhile I'm, on the
    lookouit ffor anothr DD> Keytronics - either USB or PS2 hookup.

    Ok, I use a Dell net book for Fido (and other), also have a tablet. When
    we moved to WF, we didn't have room for 2 desk top set ups so, since
    Steve needed the desk top more than I did, I sacrificed my set up. It's
    a lot easier for me, plus I can take it anywhere in the house or beyond.
    At home I'm networked into the main system. Also, the keyboard on the
    net book is smaller, easier for me to use.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 27 12:12:56 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Last month when we were in western NY we went out to an Italian
    restaurant with Steve's mom and siblings--I saw picatta on the menu and got it, yes it also had capers. I used dark meat for the Moroccan
    chicken I made last week (called for white) so I'm down to just
    leg/thigh quarters in the freezer so will probably pick up some white
    meat when we do some shopping later this week.

    I do keep capers (a small bottle) and will make them available to
    guests who, like MLOO, insist on having salt bombs with their piccata.

    They do add a nice accent.

    2 Chicken breast halves or
    - thighs; 4 to 6 oz each
    - boned, skinned

    I may cut my chicken into strips and mix it with noodles the way our friend does it. That, and a green salad will be a good meal. Yes, I do
    use wine--for cooking only, not drinking.

    Sounds like me. But for different reasons. You have religious scruples whereas I just don't have a taste for it. Same for beer or hard
    liquor. They are "social" things. It's been over 5 years since I had a drink
    of anything alcoholic.

    Longer than that for me, never was into beer (Steve calls it "liquid
    cilantro" as they both taste nasty, in our opinions.) but did try some
    wines in Germany, plus a few sips of my FIL's home made peach brandy.


    I've told people for many years the the alcohol "cooks out" od wine or hooch used in cooking. Turns out that's not entirely true. Some
    residual alcohol may remain evewn after long cooking according to A Washington
    Post article that showed up in my newss feed. Talk about an "eye
    opened" http://tinyurl.com/86-D-BOOZE

    I read that too, years ago, and that was part of the reason I didn't
    cook with it. Now I'll cook with it, but in very small amounts. I might
    do a splash or 2 of red in beef stew, didn't last time I made stew and
    did notice a difference.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 29 06:03:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I may cut my chicken into strips and mix it with noodles the way our friend does it. That, and a green salad will be a good meal. Yes, I do
    use wine--for cooking only, not drinking.

    Sounds like me. But for different reasons. You have religious scruples whereas I just don't have a taste for it. Same for beer or hard
    liquor. They are "social" things. It's been over 5 years since I had a drink of anything alcoholic.

    Longer than that for me, never was into beer (Steve calls it "liquid cilantro" as they both taste nasty, in our opinions.) but did try some wines in Germany, plus a few sips of my FIL's home made peach brandy.

    Beer has a wide range of flavour. Some, like Miller High Life comes out
    of its clear glass bottle "pre-skunked". But, Miller Genuine Draft is
    quite enjoyable. Still, beer is an aquired taste.

    I've told people for many years the the alcohol "cooks out" od wine or hooch used in cooking. Turns out that's not entirely true. Some
    residual alcohol may remain evewn after long cooking according to A Washington Post article that showed up in my newss feed. Talk about
    an "eye opener" http://tinyurl.com/86-D-BOOZE

    I read that too, years ago, and that was part of the reason I didn't
    cook with it. Now I'll cook with it, but in very small amounts. I might
    do a splash or 2 of red in beef stew, didn't last time I made stew and
    did notice a difference.

    I buy small piccolo/split bottles that hold 187 mL or about 6 tabvlespoons. IOW enough to flavour the dish without the rest of the jug turning to
    vinegar while waiting to be used. Bv)= Besides, they're cost effective.

    My friend, Lee Bertagnolli, makes wine as a hobby. And wins competitions
    with his product. Every year at the December meeting of our computer bunch
    he presents all in attendance with a 750 mL bottle of one of his wines.

    Mine gets re-gifted - usually to my chilli cooking friend Les if it's a
    red wine. Or to his wife, Sara, if a white. They are Jewissh but do not
    care for Kosher wines like Mogen David or Maneschewitz because of their sweetness.

    If I'm using hard liquor as a flavourant I always buy it in Railroad
    Bottles (50 mL)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fried Venison Heart
    Categories: Game, Vegetables, Wine
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 Venison heart
    1 md Onion; sliced
    1 ts Prepared (yellow) mustard
    1 ts Pickling spice
    1 ts Salt
    3 ts Wine vinegar
    1 c Red wine
    Flour
    2 ts Butter

    Split heart in half. Remove all vents and ducts. Mix onion,
    mustard, pickling spice, salt, wine vinegar, and wine in
    large glass bowl.

    Soak heart in marinade overnight.

    Dredge pieces in flour and fry in butter over high heat.
    When both sides are browned reduce heat and continue to
    cook 5 to 10 minutes longer.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 29 06:47:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    About what I was thinking--something that would go with the rest
    of the flavors. I'd probably use a breakfast type sausage.

    As would I - if ever Im make it. The sausage would, no doubt, come
    from Humphrey's, fresh made daily.

    We don't have Humphrey's around but do understand there's a local
    butcher. Need to check them out and see what they offer, understand Tuesdays are their sal days.

    Humphrey's equivalent can be found in small town America more readily
    than in the larger burgs. We have another butcher/meat market/grocer
    in the past few years. Magro's opened in an former Eagle Stupormarkup
    store - so they have more roomy aisles and carry lots more grocery and
    sundry items. And they have a slaughtering operation on-site.

    Still, Humphrey's is the "go-to" for many folks. Plus they keep pigs
    ears and pork thigh bones in stock for daggie treats. Bv)=

    We also have some chicken rustlers - Ciota & Foster - who supply local
    markets and restaurants with fresh chicken. They do not sell directly to
    te public, however.

    8<----- SHIFT ----->8

    I do Popeyes cole's law. Bv)= And swap the nasty (to me) French
    frries for mash and "Cajun" gravy. My morning blod sugar checks run consistent at/near the 95 to 105 range. Unless my croakers have me on prednisonme which mucks up bothj my BP and sweetness numberrs.

    I know, I've had "bursts" of prednisone when the asthma has flared or morphed into bronchitis. Having had problems with long term prednisone
    use 20+ years ago, I now ask for no more than 10 days worth, doing a taper. Helps knock down the crud but doesn't give long term side
    effects.

    I know it's very effective for respiratory problems which is why i put
    up with it. But B/G readings in the 300 range are scary.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Baked Cajun Chicken #1 *
    Categories: Diabetic, Poultry, Lo-fat
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 lb (to 2 lb) meaty chicken
    Nonstick spray
    2 tb Milk;
    2 tb Onion powder; (I prefer real
    - onion, minced - UDD)
    1/2 Dried thyme; crushed
    1/4 ts Garlic salt
    1/8 ts (to 1/4) ts each white and
    - black pepper; ground fine

    Remove skin from chicken. Rinse chicken, pat dry. Spray
    a 13" X 9" X 2" baking dish with nonstick coating.
    Arrange the chicken, meaty sides up, in dish. Brush with
    milk.

    In small bowl mix onion powder, thyme, garlic salt, white
    pepper, red pepper, and black pepper. Sprinkle over
    chicken. Bake in a 375-|F/190-|C oven for 45 to 55 minutes
    or till the chicken is tender and no longer pink.

    * I don't see anything that makes this uniquely "Cajun".
    It is good, though. And easy to do - UDD

    Source: Better Homes and Garden Diabetic Cookbook

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 29 12:36:52 2023
    Hi Dave,

    liquor. They are "social" things. It's been over 5 years since I had a drink of anything alcoholic.

    Longer than that for me, never was into beer (Steve calls it "liquid cilantro" as they both taste nasty, in our opinions.) but did try some wines in Germany, plus a few sips of my FIL's home made peach brandy.

    Beer has a wide range of flavour. Some, like Miller High Life comes
    out of its clear glass bottle "pre-skunked". But, Miller Genuine Draft
    is
    quite enjoyable. Still, beer is an aquired taste.

    And one that I'm not about to acquire at this stage of my life. (G)

    I've told people for many years the the alcohol "cooks out" od wine
    or DD> hooch used in cooking. Turns out that's not entirely true. Some
    residual alcohol may remain evewn after long cooking according to A Washington Post article that showed up in my newss feed. Talk
    about DD> an "eye opener" http://tinyurl.com/86-D-BOOZE

    I read that too, years ago, and that was part of the reason I didn't
    cook with it. Now I'll cook with it, but in very small amounts. I might
    do a splash or 2 of red in beef stew, didn't last time I made stew and
    did notice a difference.

    I buy small piccolo/split bottles that hold 187 mL or about 6 tabvlespoons. IOW enough to flavour the dish without the rest of the
    jug turning to
    vinegar while waiting to be used. Bv)= Besides, they're cost
    effective.

    We've been buying the little cardboard boxes that hold maybe half a
    litre, usually one red, one white. So far none have turned on us; we put
    open ones in the fridge and use it from time to time.

    My friend, Lee Bertagnolli, makes wine as a hobby. And wins DD>
    competitions with his product. Every year at the December meeting of
    our computer bunch he presents all in attendance with a 750 mL
    bottle DD> of one of his wines.

    Mine gets re-gifted - usually to my chilli cooking friend Les if it's
    a red wine. Or to his wife, Sara, if a white. They are Jewissh but do
    not care for Kosher wines like Mogen David or Maneschewitz because of their sweetness.

    Understandable; we tried the Kosher wines at one time but gave up on
    them quickly--much too sweet for us. Steve's older brother and his wife
    are into wine making but haven't offered us any of their output yet.
    It's probably very small, for their consumption only.

    If I'm using hard liquor as a flavourant I always buy it in
    Railroad DD> Bottles (50 mL)

    Never heard that term before but I guess it pre dates airplane bottles.
    (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 29 12:48:35 2023
    Hi Dave,

    As would I - if ever Im make it. The sausage would, no doubt, come
    from Humphrey's, fresh made daily.

    We don't have Humphrey's around but do understand there's a local
    butcher. Need to check them out and see what they offer, understand Tuesdays are their sale days.

    Humphrey's equivalent can be found in small town America more readily
    than in the larger burgs. We have another butcher/meat market/grocer
    in the past few years. Magro's opened in an former Eagle Stupormarkup store - so they have more roomy aisles and carry lots more grocery and sundry items. And they have a slaughtering operation on-site.

    I'll have to check out Whole Foods and Wegman's. I know the latter does
    do some specialty butchering but don't know if they go whole hog or not.


    Still, Humphrey's is the "go-to" for many folks. Plus they keep pigs
    ears and pork thigh bones in stock for daggie treats. Bv)=

    When we had Sam, a local pet store in Sierra Vista had the pig's ears.
    One of our friends worked there and from time to time would bring home a discontinued item for Sam. Deborah kept him supplied with pig's ears and
    other treats.

    We also have some chicken rustlers - Ciota & Foster - who supply
    local DD> markets and restaurants with fresh chicken. They do not sell
    directly DD> to te public, however.

    Too bad. I remember years ago my folks got a buy on whole chickens,
    don't remember how they got that deal but had roast chicken once a week
    for some months. It was before they got their home freezer so they
    rented space in the town's cold storage locker building.

    frries for mash and "Cajun" gravy. My morning blod sugar checks run consistent at/near the 95 to 105 range. Unless my croakers have me on prednisonme which mucks up bothj my BP and sweetness numberrs.

    I know, I've had "bursts" of prednisone when the asthma has flared or morphed into bronchitis. Having had problems with long term prednisone
    use 20+ years ago, I now ask for no more than 10 days worth, doing a taper. Helps knock down the crud but doesn't give long term side
    effects.

    I know it's very effective for respiratory problems which is why i put
    up with it. But B/G readings in the 300 range are scary.

    Very much so--for me, anything above 120 is scary. This morning it was
    92.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 31 07:04:22 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As would I - if ever Im make it. The sausage would, no doubt, come
    from Humphrey's, fresh made daily.

    We don't have Humphrey's around but do understand there's a local
    butcher. Need to check them out and see what they offer, understand Tuesdays are their sale days.

    Humphrey's equivalent can be found in small town America more readily
    than in the larger burgs. We have another butcher/meat market/grocer
    in the past few years. Magro's opened in an former Eagle Stupormarkup store - so they have more roomy aisles and carry lots more grocery and sundry items. And they have a slaughtering operation on-site.

    I'll have to check out Whole Foods and Wegman's. I know the latter does
    do some specialty butchering but don't know if they go whole hog or
    not.

    Humphrey's does not have a slaughtering operation but they have everything else. During deer season they advertise freee butchering of your results
    if you donate 25% of the meat to soup kitchens/breaddlines and/or homeless shelters.

    Still, Humphrey's is the "go-to" for many folks. Plus they keep pigs
    ears and pork thigh bones in stock for daggie treats. Bv)=

    When we had Sam, a local pet store in Sierra Vista had the pig's ears.
    One of our friends worked there and from time to time would bring home
    a discontinued item for Sam. Deborah kept him supplied with pig's ears
    and other treats.

    We also have some chicken rustlers - Ciota & Foster - who supply
    local DD> markets and restaurants with fresh chicken. They do not sell
    directly DD> to te public, however.

    Too bad. I remember years ago my folks got a buy on whole chickens,
    don't remember how they got that deal but had roast chicken once a week for some months. It was before they got their home freezer so they
    rented space in the town's cold storage locker building.

    My "olds" never did that. If we weren't keeping chickens and eating from
    our flock my granddad or dad would visit a nearby farm and buy a nice fat free-range hen for Sunday's dinner.

    I'm not sure there are any surviving "locker plants" since home freezers
    and refrigerators have become so affordable.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: All-In-One Spring Roast Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 5/8 kg (3.5 lb) free-range chicken
    50 g (2 oz) butter; softened
    500 g (18 oz) bag new potatoes
    1 tb Olive oil
    150 g (5 oz)baby carrots; scrub'd
    - or peeled
    140 g (5 oz) podded broad beans;
    - podded again if you like *
    100 g (3.5 oz) peas; defrosted
    Good handful roughly-chopped
    - mixed herbs (mint, chives,
    - tarragon, parsley, and
    - chervil are all nice)

    Heat oven to 205ºC/400ºF (180ºC/360ºF fan)/gas 6. Sit
    the chicken in a good-sized roasting dish or tin. Push
    your fingers between the breast and skin to separate,
    push in some of the softened butter and gently spread
    over the breasts without tearing the skin. Rub the rest
    of the butter all over the outside of the chicken.
    Season well and roast for 30 mins.

    Toss the new potatoes with the olive oil and plenty of
    seasoning. When the chicken comes out, scatter the spuds
    around it and toss with the juices in the dish, too. Put
    back in the oven for another 30 mins.

    Stir the carrots into the potatoes and put back into the
    oven for another 20 mins.

    Check the chicken is cooked by piercing the thigh and
    making sure the juices run clear. Stir the broad beans
    and peas into the other veg with a splash of water and
    put back in the oven for 5 mins. Remove from the oven,
    cover loosely with foil and rest for 10 mins. Scatter
    over and stir in the herbs before serving.

    Serves: 4 - 5

    By: Sarah Cook

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 31 07:11:02 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Beer has a wide range of flavour. Some, like Miller High Life comes
    out of its clear glass bottle "pre-skunked". But, Miller Genuine Draft
    is quite enjoyable. Still, beer is an aquired taste.

    And one that I'm not about to acquire at this stage of my life. (G)

    I've told people for many years the the alcohol "cooks out" od wine
    or or hooch used in cooking. Turns out that's not entirely true. Some residual alcohol may remain evewn after long cooking according to A Washington Post article that showed up in my newss feed. Talk about
    an "eye opener" http://tinyurl.com/86-D-BOOZE

    I read that too, years ago, and that was part of the reason I didn't
    cook with it. Now I'll cook with it, but in very small amounts. I might
    do a splash or 2 of red in beef stew, didn't last time I made stew and
    did notice a difference.

    It does add flavour. As beer adds flavour to things .... mostly from the
    hops. In batter for deep frying it's one thing but in chilli (I see a
    lot of recipes that call for beer in the chilli) it's an undesirable
    (to me) bitter undertone brought on by the hops in the brew.

    I buy small piccolo/split bottles that hold 187 mL or about 6 tabvlespoons. IOW enough to flavour the dish without the rest of the
    jug turning to vinegar while waiting to be used. Bv)= Besides,
    they're cost effective.

    We've been buying the little cardboard boxes that hold maybe half a
    litre, usually one red, one white. So far none have turned on us; we
    put open ones in the fridge and use it from time to time.

    I usually don't have room in the ice box for stuff that should be in
    there. Or the freezer. Mostly because Dennis is a pack-rat. I'm not
    scheduled to work next Tuesday so there's going to be a big clear-out
    to the bare shelves - which will get washed and spiffed up. All science experiments and "what is this?" item will be binned, etc.

    My friend, Lee Bertagnolli, makes wine as a hobby. And wins DD>
    competitions with his product. Every year at the December meeting of
    our computer bunch he presents all in attendance with a 750 mL
    bottle DD> of one of his wines.

    Mine gets re-gifted - usually to my chilli cooking friend Les if it's
    a red wine. Or to his wife, Sara, if a white. They are Jewissh but do
    not care for Kosher wines like Mogen David or Maneschewitz because of their sweetness.

    Understandable; we tried the Kosher wines at one time but gave up on
    them quickly--much too sweet for us. Steve's older brother and his wife are into wine making but haven't offered us any of their output yet.
    It's probably very small, for their consumption only.

    I grew up in small(ish) towns with substantial immigrant and first
    generation populations - many Italian families many of whom had big
    grape arbors and made wine for family consumption. Oddly the families
    of French heritage didn't follow that practice.

    If I'm using hard liquor as a flavourant I always buy it in
    Railroad DD> Bottles (50 mL)

    Never heard that term before but I guess it pre dates airplane
    bottles. (G)

    I was told by a friend (and fellow chilli cook) who had been a cook on transcontinental trains that the small bottles served two (or more)
    purposes. Inventory was easier - and it made it harder for an
    unscrupulous attendant/bartender to deplete the stock by nipping at the
    bottle. And since the bottles contained about a "jigger/shot" of booze, measurement was simple.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Shrimp Cocktail Exotique
    Categories: Seafood, Salads, Dressings, Chilies, Citrus
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 Navel oranges
    1 1/2 lb Med shrimp (U32); shelled,
    - deveined
    2 ts Extra-virgin olive oil
    1/4 ts Minced & mashed garlic
    3 Firm-ripe Calif avocados
    6 Canned hearts of palm;
    - drain, rinse, pat dry, cut
    - crosswise in 1/2" pieces

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    3 tb Ketchup
    1 1/2 tb Cognac
    2 ts Fresh lime juice
    1/2 ts Sugar
    pn Cayenne

    Can be prepared in 45 minutes or less.

    Make shrimp: With a sharp knife cut a slice from top and
    bottom of each orange, exposing flesh, and arrange with
    a cut side down on a cutting board. Cutting from top to
    bottom, remove peel and pith. Working over a bowl, cut
    orange sections free from membranes, letting sections
    drop into bowl, and squeeze excess juice from membranes.

    Into a large saucepan of boiling salted water plunge
    shrimp and poach at a bare simmer just until firm, 1 to 2
    minutes. Drain shrimp in a colander and transfer to a
    large bowl. While shrimp are still warm add oil, garlic,
    and 1 tablespoon juice from orange sections, stirring to
    coat shrimp. Let shrimp cool to room temperature.

    Make sauce: In a small bowl whisk together sauce
    ingredients until smooth. Sauce may be made 1 day ahead
    and chilled, covered.

    Quarter avocados lengthwise, removing pit and peel, and
    cut in 1/2" dice. Transfer orange sections with a slotted
    spoon to shrimp mix and add hearts of palm and avocado,
    folding ingredients together gently.

    Divide salad among 4 plates, mounding it & spoon sauce
    over salad.

    Gourmet | August 1996

    Yield: Serves 4

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 31 17:05:50 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Humphrey's equivalent can be found in small town America more readily
    than in the larger burgs. We have another butcher/meat market/grocer
    in the past few years. Magro's opened in an former Eagle Stupormarkup store - so they have more roomy aisles and carry lots more grocery and sundry items. And they have a slaughtering operation on-site.

    I'll have to check out Whole Foods and Wegman's. I know the latter does
    do some specialty butchering but don't know if they go whole hog or
    not.

    Humphrey's does not have a slaughtering operation but they have
    everything else. During deer season they advertise freee butchering of your results if you donate 25% of the meat to soup
    kitchens/breaddlines and/or homeless shelters.

    Good for them! I don't know of any places around here that do anything
    of that sort, but then too, I don't know any local butchers or hunters. Organisations like those need all the help they can get and free food is
    a big help.

    We also have some chicken rustlers - Ciota & Foster - who supply
    local DD> markets and restaurants with fresh chicken. They do not sell
    directly DD> to te public, however.

    Too bad. I remember years ago my folks got a buy on whole chickens,
    don't remember how they got that deal but had roast chicken once a week for some months. It was before they got their home freezer so they
    rented space in the town's cold storage locker building.

    My "olds" never did that. If we weren't keeping chickens and eating
    from our flock my granddad or dad would visit a nearby farm and buy a
    nice fat free-range hen for Sunday's dinner.

    My dad was a white collar worker (local newspaper/free lance
    photographer) so we didn't have any livestock except cats and dogs. I
    have no idea how he got the chickens but there were a lot of them.

    I'm not sure there are any surviving "locker plants" since home
    freezers and refrigerators have become so affordable.

    There may be some in the Amish/Mennonite areas of the country--those
    folks don't have electricity on their farms.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 31 17:15:25 2023
    Hi Dave,


    I've told people for many years the the alcohol "cooks out" od wine
    or or hooch used in cooking. Turns out that's not entirely true. Some residual alcohol may remain evewn after long cooking according to A Washington Post article that showed up in my newss feed. Talk about
    an "eye opener" http://tinyurl.com/86-D-BOOZE

    I read that too, years ago, and that was part of the reason I didn't
    cook with it. Now I'll cook with it, but in very small amounts. I might
    do a splash or 2 of red in beef stew, didn't last time I made stew and
    did notice a difference.

    It does add flavour. As beer adds flavour to things .... mostly from
    the hops. In batter for deep frying it's one thing but in chilli (I
    see a
    lot of recipes that call for beer in the chilli) it's an undesirable
    (to me) bitter undertone brought on by the hops in the brew.

    The bitterness of the hops is the why we don't like it and wouldn't use
    it for cooking. I've seen a lot of recipies that look good until I start reading the ingredients listing. When I see beer, ale or stout listed,
    I'll think "well, it looked good until I saw.....".

    I buy small piccolo/split bottles that hold 187 mL or about 6 DD>
    tabvlespoons. IOW enough to flavour the dish without the rest of the
    jug turning to vinegar while waiting to be used. Bv)= Besides,
    they're cost effective.

    We've been buying the little cardboard boxes that hold maybe half a
    litre, usually one red, one white. So far none have turned on us; we
    put open ones in the fridge and use it from time to time.

    I usually don't have room in the ice box for stuff that should be in there. Or the freezer. Mostly because Dennis is a pack-rat. I'm not scheduled to work next Tuesday so there's going to be a big clear-out
    to the bare shelves - which will get washed and spiffed up. All
    science experiments and "what is this?" item will be binned, etc.

    Sounds like a good idea. We've probably got some stuff in our fridge
    that should find a new home in the trash can.

    My friend, Lee Bertagnolli, makes wine as a hobby. And wins DD> RH>
    competitions with his product. Every year at the December meeting of
    our computer bunch he presents all in attendance with a 750 mL RH>
    bottle DD> of one of his wines.

    Mine gets re-gifted - usually to my chilli cooking friend Les if it's
    a red wine. Or to his wife, Sara, if a white. They are Jewissh but do
    not care for Kosher wines like Mogen David or Maneschewitz because of their sweetness.

    Understandable; we tried the Kosher wines at one time but gave up on
    them quickly--much too sweet for us. Steve's older brother and his wife are into wine making but haven't offered us any of their output yet.
    It's probably very small, for their consumption only.

    I grew up in small(ish) towns with substantial immigrant and first generation populations - many Italian families many of whom had big
    grape arbors and made wine for family consumption. Oddly the families
    of French heritage didn't follow that practice.

    Town I grew up in was well settled by (mostly) Scotch-Irish long before
    my parents moved there. Farming was mostly dairy but from what I've
    read, there was a time when cauliflower was a big cash crop in the area.

    If I'm using hard liquor as a flavourant I always buy it in RH>
    Railroad DD> Bottles (50 mL)

    Never heard that term before but I guess it pre dates airplane
    bottles. (G)

    I was told by a friend (and fellow chilli cook) who had been a cook on transcontinental trains that the small bottles served two (or more) purposes. Inventory was easier - and it made it harder for an
    unscrupulous attendant/bartender to deplete the stock by nipping at
    the bottle. And since the bottles contained about a "jigger/shot" of booze, measurement was simple.

    Sounds like a win-win all the way around (except for the unscrupulous
    folks). We had our first meal on a train this past spring on our trip to
    Denali from Whittier, Alaska. We were seated so that we could see a bit
    of the kitchen as waiters came in/went out; from what we could see, it
    was very tight working space. The menu we were offered was very limited,
    looked like very minimal cooking was actually done on the train except
    maybe the salmon chowder. The rest of the hot offerings were probably
    just microwaved.

    ---
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 1 14:42:26 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The bitterness of the hops is the why we don't like it and wouldn't use
    it for cooking. I've seen a lot of recipies that look good until I
    start reading the ingredients listing. When I see beer, ale or stout listed, I'll think "well, it looked good until I saw.....".

    You might like this info. I don't use any alcohol at all not only due
    to my personal beliefs but my health.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Alcohol Substitutions
    Categories: Info, Seandennis
    Yield: 1 Info

    1 Info

    Amaretto: Almond extract. (Substitute 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon almond
    extract for 2 tablespoons Amaretto.)

    Anisette: Anise Italian soda syrup or fennel.

    Beer: Chicken broth, beef broth, mushroom broth, white grape juice,
    ginger ale.

    Bourbon: 1 1/2 to 2 teaspoons of non-alcoholic vanilla extract.

    Brandy: Water, white grape juice, apple cider or apple juice, diluted
    peach or apricot syrups. (Substitute equal amounts of liquid.)

    Champagne: Ginger ale, sparkling apple cider, sparkling cranberry
    juice, or sparkling white grape juice.

    Cointreau: Orange juice or frozen orange juice concentrate.

    Coffee Liqueur: To replace 2 tablespoons of liqueur, use 1/2 to 1
    teaspoon of chocolate extract mixed with 1 teaspoon of instant
    coffee, which has been mixed in 2 tablespoons of water. Can also
    substitute expresso, non-alcoholic coffee extract or coffee syrup.

    Cognac: Juice from peaches, apricots, or pears.

    Creme de menthe: Spearmint extract or oil of spearmint diluted with a
    little water or grapefruit juice.

    Grand Marnier or Orange-Flavored Liqueur: Unsweetened orange juice
    concentrate or orange juice. (Substitute 2 tablespoons unsweetened
    orange juice concentrate or 2 tablespoons orange juice and 1/2
    teaspoon orange extract for 2 tablespoons Grand Marnier.)

    Kahlua: Coffee or chocolate-flavored liqueur. (Substitute 1/2 to 1
    teaspoon chocolate extract or substitute 1/2 to 1 teaspoon instant
    coffee in 2 tablespoons water for 2 tablespoons Kahlua.)

    Kirsch: Syrup or juices from cherries, raspberries, boysenberries,
    currants, or cider. (Substitute equal amounts of liquid.)

    Peppermint Schnapps: Non-alcoholic mint or peppermint extract, mint
    Italian soda syrup, or mint leaves.

    Port Wine, Sweet Sherry, or Fruit-Flavored Liqueur): Orange juice or
    apple juice. (Substitute equal amount of liquid.)

    Rum (light or dark): Water, white grape juice, pineapple juice, apple
    juice or apple cider, or syrup flavored with almond extract.
    (Substitute equal amounts of liquid.)

    Sake: Rice vinegar.

    Sherry or Bourbon: Orange or pineapple juices, peach syrup, or
    non-alcoholic vanilla extract. (Substitute equal amount of liquid 1
    to 2 teaspoons vanilla extract.)

    Southern Comfort: Peach flavored nectar combined with a small amount
    of cider vinegar.

    Tequila: Cactus juice or nectar.

    Triple Sec: Orange juice concentrate, orange juice, orange zest or
    orange marmalade.

    Vermouth, Dry: White grape juice, white wine vinegar, or non-alcoholic
    white wine.

    Vermouth, Sweet: Apple juice, grape juice, balsamic vinegar,
    non-alcoholic sweet wine, or water with lemon juice.

    Whiskey: If a small amount is called for, it can be eliminated.

    Vodka: White grape juice or apple cider combined with lime juice or
    use plain water in place of the vodka.

    Gewurztraminer: White grape juice combined with lemon juice.

    Grappa: Grape juice.

    Port Wine: Concord grape juice with some lime zest added, cranberry
    juice with some lemon juice added, or grape juice concentrate.
    Substitute orange juice or apple juice for lighter ports.

    Red Wine: Red grape juice, cranberry juice, chicken broth, beef broth,
    vegetable broth, clam juice, fruit juices, flavored vinegar.
    (Substitute equal amount of liquid.)

    White Wine: Water, chicken broth, vegetable broth, white grape juice,
    ginger ale.

    Sweet White Wine: White grape juice plus 1 tablespoons Karo corn
    syrup. (Substitute equal amount of liquid.)

    From: http://whatscookingamerica.net/alcoholsub.htm

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 3 January 2009 (revised 25 October 2014).

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 2 05:37:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Humphrey's equivalent can be found in small town America more readily
    than in the larger burgs. We have another butcher/meat market/grocer
    in the past few years. Magro's opened in an former Eagle Stupormarkup store - so they have more roomy aisles and carry lots more grocery and sundry items. And they have a slaughtering operation on-site.

    I'll have to check out Whole Foods and Wegman's. I know the latter does
    do some specialty butchering but don't know if they go whole hog or
    not.

    If their butchers are truly butchers and not just "meat cutters" they'll
    be able to take a side of (animal) and break it down to its various cuts. Humphrey's buys "sides" of beef, whole hog carcasses, etc.

    Magro's buys live, on the hoof animals and goes from there.

    Humphrey's does not have a slaughtering operation but they have
    everything else. During deer season they advertise freee butchering of your results if you donate 25% of the meat to soup
    kitchens/breaddlines and/or homeless shelters.

    Good for them! I don't know of any places around here that do anything
    of that sort, but then too, I don't know any local butchers or hunters. Organisations like those need all the help they can get and free food
    is a big help.

    Since they are located in a rough neighbourhood they're just taking care
    of the neighbours.

    We also have some chicken rustlers - Ciota & Foster - who supply
    local markets and restaurants with fresh chicken. They do not sell directly to te public, however.

    Too bad. I remember years ago my folks got a buy on whole chickens,
    don't remember how they got that deal but had roast chicken once a week for some months. It was before they got their home freezer so they
    rented space in the town's cold storage locker building.

    My "olds" never did that. If we weren't keeping chickens and eating
    from our flock my granddad or dad would visit a nearby farm and buy a
    nice fat free-range hen for Sunday's dinner.

    My dad was a white collar worker (local newspaper/free lance
    photographer) so we didn't have any livestock except cats and dogs. I
    have no idea how he got the chickens but there were a lot of them.

    Did your family have to pluck the feathers and diembowel the chook?

    I'm not sure there are any surviving "locker plants" since home
    freezers and refrigerators have become so affordable.

    There may be some in the Amish/Mennonite areas of the country--those
    folks don't have electricity on their farms.

    Amish, maybe. Mennonites are more modern. We have an Amish enclave near
    to here (Arthur, IL) and marketroids often us "Amish made" as a touchstone
    when sellin a whole range of things.

    I always thought a Monnonite was pretty much and Amish with a phone and
    a car. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mennonite Bread
    Categories: Breads, Dairy, Grains
    Yield: 4 Loaves

    1/2 oz (2 pkt) active dry yeast
    2 c Water; 110-|F/43-|C
    2 c Buttermilk
    1/4 c Oil
    1/2 c Honey
    1/4 c Wheat germ
    1 c Rye flour
    4 c Whole wheat flour
    Bread flour

    In a large mixing bowl, dissolve the yeast in 1 cup of the
    warm water. Let stand 5 mins. until yeast foams. Stir in
    the salt, oil, honey, remaining water, and buttermilk.

    Mix in the rye flour, wheat germ, and whole wheat flour;
    beat well. Add bread flour, 1 cup at a time, beating well
    until stiff dough forms. Turn dough out onto lightly
    floured board and knead until smooth and elastic, about 10
    mins., adding additional bread flour as needed.

    Wash bowl, grease it, and add dough to bowl. Turn over to
    grease top of dough. Cover and let rise in a warm place
    until doubled.

    Grease four 8 1/2" bread pans. punch dough down. Divide
    into 4 parts. Shape each into a loaf and place in pans.
    Cover loosely. Let rise until about doubled.

    Bake in preheated 375-|F/190-|C oven for approx. 40 mins.

    Recipe By: Mennonite Central Committee adapted by Ellen Smith

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 2 07:40:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    It does add flavour. As beer adds flavour to things .... mostly from
    the hops. In batter for deep frying it's one thing but in chilli (I
    see a lot of recipes that call for beer in the chilli) it's an
    undesirable (to me) bitter undertone brought on by the hops in the
    brew.

    The bitterness of the hops is the why we don't like it and wouldn't use
    it for cooking. I've seen a lot of recipies that look good until I
    start reading the ingredients listing. When I see beer, ale or stout listed, I'll think "well, it looked good until I saw.....".

    It sort-of depends on the beer. Some beers are "hoppier" than others.
    Budweiser is sweeter than bitter, for example. And Coors has little
    flavour at all. And bitter works in many recipes. It is, after all one
    of the basic "tastes". Sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and that Japanese
    favourite 'umami'.

    I buy small piccolo/split bottles that hold 187 mL or about 6 DD>
    tabvlespoons. IOW enough to flavour the dish without the rest of the
    jug turning to vinegar while waiting to be used. Bv)= Besides,
    they're cost effective.

    We've been buying the little cardboard boxes that hold maybe half a
    litre, usually one red, one white. So far none have turned on us; we
    put open ones in the fridge and use it from time to time.

    I usually don't have room in the ice box for stuff that should be in there. Or the freezer. Mostly because Dennis is a pack-rat. I'm not scheduled to work next Tuesday so there's going to be a big clear-out
    to the bare shelves - which will get washed and spiffed up. All
    science experiments and "what is this?" item will be binned, etc.

    Sounds like a good idea. We've probably got some stuff in our fridge
    that should find a new home in the trash can.

    I'm going to do it the evening before trash day so it doesn't have time
    to take over the wheelie bin. Or attract raccooons, tree rats and opossums.

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    I grew up in small(ish) towns with substantial immigrant and first generation populations - many Italian families many of whom had big
    grape arbors and made wine for family consumption. Oddly the families
    of French heritage didn't follow that practice.

    Town I grew up in was well settled by (mostly) Scotch-Irish long before
    my parents moved there. Farming was mostly dairy but from what I've
    read, there was a time when cauliflower was a big cash crop in the
    area.

    Most farms these days are strictly "ca$h grain" and the farmers shop at stupormarkups. Our family farm rotated crops between corn, soybeans,
    wheat, oats, alfalfa, rye and sorghum (a relative of corn). And we had
    a small orchard with apples, peaches, apricots and paw-paw trees. The
    orchard and the acre+ "truck" garden were bordered by blackberry and
    raspberry brambles. And there was a strawberry bed at the top of the
    garden.

    If I'm using hard liquor as a flavourant I always buy it in
    Railroad Bottles (50 mL)

    Never heard that term before but I guess it pre dates airplane
    bottles. (G)

    I was told by a friend (and fellow chilli cook) who had been a cook on transcontinental trains that the small bottles served two (or more) purposes. Inventory was easier - and it made it harder for an
    unscrupulous attendant/bartender to deplete the stock by nipping at
    the bottle. And since the bottles contained about a "jigger/shot" of booze, measurement was simple.

    Sounds like a win-win all the way around (except for the unscrupulous folks). We had our first meal on a train this past spring on our trip
    to Denali from Whittier, Alaska. We were seated so that we could see a
    bit of the kitchen as waiters came in/went out; from what we could see,
    it was very tight working space. The menu we were offered was very limited, looked like very minimal cooking was actually done on the
    train except maybe the salmon chowder. The rest of the hot offerings
    were probably just microwaved.

    Railroad dining car galleys are, of necessity, very tight quarters. And
    they put out some amazing dishes. Airlines, OTOH, use pre-made, nuked
    to serving temperature dishes for their in-flight offerings. If you've
    eaten airline food you'll know it's all lowest common denominator stuff.

    My first railroad meal was on the Rock Island Twin Cities Rocket and I
    was 14 years old. Roast Duckling w/Orange Sauce. I managed to get more
    of it in me than on me. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Duck a L'Orange
    Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 2

    3 lb Whole duckling; thawed if
    - frozen
    2 ts Grated orange peel
    1/2 c Orange juice
    1/4 c Currant jelly
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1/8 ts Ground mustard
    1/8 ts Salt
    1 1/2 ts Cornstarch or arrowroot
    1 tb Cold water
    1 md Orange; peeled, sectioned
    1 tb Orange-flavored liqueur; opt
    - Curacao or Triple Sec

    Set oven @ 350-|F/175-|C.

    Fasten neck skin to back of duckling with skewer. Fold
    wings across back of duckling so tips are touching. On
    rack in shallow roasting pan, place duckling, breast
    side up. Pierce skin all over with fork. Loosely tie
    legs to the tail, if desired, to better hold an even
    shape during cooking. Insert ovenproof meat thermometer
    so tip is in thickest part of inside thigh and does not
    touch bone.

    Roast uncovered about 2 hours 30 minutes or until
    thermometer reads at least 165-|F/74-|C and legs move
    easily when lifted or twisted. If necessary, place tent
    of foil loosely over breast during last hour to prevent
    excessive browning. Place duckling on warm platter;
    cover and let stand 15 to 20 minutes for easiest
    carving.

    Meanwhile, in 1 quart saucepan, heat orange peel, orange
    juice, jelly, lemon juice, mustard and salt to boiling.
    In small bowl, mix cornstarch and water; stir into
    sauce. Cook over medium heat, stirring constantly, until
    mixture thickens and boils. Boil and stir 1 minute. Stir
    in orange sections and liqueur. Brush duckling with some
    of the sauce. Serve with remaining sauce.

    NOTE: Piercing the duck skin lets much of the unwanted
    fat drain away. Using a fork, pierce the skin all over,
    especially at the breast, but donrCOt pierce the flesh.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bettycrocker.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jan 2 13:40:35 2024
    Hi Sean,


    The bitterness of the hops is the why we don't like it and wouldn't use
    it for cooking. I've seen a lot of recipies that look good until I
    start reading the ingredients listing. When I see beer, ale or stout listed, I'll think "well, it looked good until I saw.....".

    You might like this info. I don't use any alcohol at all not only due
    to my personal beliefs but my health.


    Title: Alcohol Substitutions
    Categories: Info, Seandennis
    Yield: 1 Info

    Thanks, I've seen similiar to this before but taking up several pages. I
    don't use alcohol that much in my cooking but it's nice to know what can
    be subbed for it so I don't have to buy lots of it. (G) Steve used a
    splash of white wine in the scallops done scampi style (no real recipe)
    the other night but it was unnoticeable as such. He also used about 15
    cloves of garlic--kept the vampires away but good.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jan 2 14:03:44 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I'll have to check out Whole Foods and Wegman's. I know the latter does
    do some specialty butchering but don't know if they go whole hog or
    not.

    If their butchers are truly butchers and not just "meat cutters"
    they'll be able to take a side of (animal) and break it down to its various cuts. Humphrey's buys "sides" of beef, whole hog carcasses,
    etc.

    Don't know, never looked into the back area.

    Magro's buys live, on the hoof animals and goes from there.

    True butchers then.


    Humphrey's does not have a slaughtering operation but they have
    everything else. During deer season they advertise freee butchering of your results if you donate 25% of the meat to soup
    kitchens/breaddlines and/or homeless shelters.

    Good for them! I don't know of any places around here that do anything
    of that sort, but then too, I don't know any local butchers or hunters. Organisations like those need all the help they can get and free food
    is a big help.

    Since they are located in a rough neighbourhood they're just taking
    care of the neighbours.

    That's the way to do it. The butcher shop I've seen advertised locally
    is in town, not the main part but still within limits. Just down the
    road from my primary care provider's office so we'll have to check them
    out.

    We also have some chicken rustlers - Ciota & Foster - who supply
    local markets and restaurants with fresh chicken. They do not sell directly to te public, however.

    Too bad. I remember years ago my folks got a buy on whole chickens,
    don't remember how they got that deal but had roast chicken once a week for some months. It was before they got their home freezer so they
    rented space in the town's cold storage locker building.

    My "olds" never did that. If we weren't keeping chickens and eating
    from our flock my granddad or dad would visit a nearby farm and buy a
    nice fat free-range hen for Sunday's dinner.

    My dad was a white collar worker (local newspaper/free lance
    photographer) so we didn't have any livestock except cats and dogs. I
    have no idea how he got the chickens but there were a lot of them.

    Did your family have to pluck the feathers and diembowel the chook?

    Just singe the pin feathers, they were all plucked and dressed before
    going into the freezer.


    I'm not sure there are any surviving "locker plants" since home
    freezers and refrigerators have become so affordable.

    There may be some in the Amish/Mennonite areas of the country--those
    folks don't have electricity on their farms.

    Amish, maybe. Mennonites are more modern. We have an Amish enclave
    near to here (Arthur, IL) and marketroids often us "Amish made" as a touchstone when sellin a whole range of things.

    Usually a better quality than the average. We got intoduced to a new to
    us Mennonite place last time we went thru Pennsylvania. Picked up
    several kitchen tools, means to make cold brewed coffee, socks....


    I always thought a Monnonite was pretty much and Amish with a phone
    and a car. Bv)=

    There are some other differences but I'm not really sure on what's what
    except that the Amish are the strictest in their separation from the
    English of the various sects. They've modernised some, but still hold to
    a lot of the old ways. Both Amish and Mennonitess have various degrees
    of separation from the world but both maintain a strong "apart-ness".

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jan 2 14:19:34 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The bitterness of the hops is the why we don't like it and wouldn't use
    it for cooking. I've seen a lot of recipies that look good until I
    start reading the ingredients listing. When I see beer, ale or stout listed, I'll think "well, it looked good until I saw.....".

    It sort-of depends on the beer. Some beers are "hoppier" than others. Budweiser is sweeter than bitter, for example. And Coors has little flavour at all. And bitter works in many recipes. It is, after all one
    of the basic "tastes". Sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and that Japanese favourite 'umami'.

    We still wson't buy/drink it.

    I usually don't have room in the ice box for stuff that should be in there. Or the freezer. Mostly because Dennis is a pack-rat. I'm not scheduled to work next Tuesday so there's going to be a big clear-out
    to the bare shelves - which will get washed and spiffed up. All
    science experiments and "what is this?" item will be binned, etc.

    Sounds like a good idea. We've probably got some stuff in our fridge
    that should find a new home in the trash can.

    I'm going to do it the evening before trash day so it doesn't have
    time to take over the wheelie bin. Or attract raccooons, tree rats and opossums.

    Sounds good; our trash day is Friday but because of the holiday, pushed
    to Saturday again this week. I've done the "clean out the fridge" thing
    the night before also.

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    Town I grew up in was well settled by (mostly) Scotch-Irish long before
    my parents moved there. Farming was mostly dairy but from what I've
    read, there was a time when cauliflower was a big cash crop in the
    area.

    Most farms these days are strictly "ca$h grain" and the farmers shop
    at stupormarkups. Our family farm rotated crops between corn,
    soybeans,
    wheat, oats, alfalfa, rye and sorghum (a relative of corn). And we had
    a small orchard with apples, peaches, apricots and paw-paw trees. The orchard and the acre+ "truck" garden were bordered by blackberry and raspberry brambles. And there was a strawberry bed at the top of the garden.

    My dad planted a couple of gardens for family eating. Mom canned a lot,
    then got a freezer in 1973. Dad usually put in rhubarb, sweet corn,
    lettuce, beets, carrots, yellow wax beans and tomatoes when I was
    growing up, later added brussels sprouts and a couple of other veggies.
    He had a small (6?) vines for grapes, on the property also had a couple
    of apple trees and a pear tree. Neighbor's property had blackberry
    bushes we had free picking on, strawberries were wild (but not abundant)
    on both properties.

    I was told by a friend (and fellow chilli cook) who had been a cook on transcontinental trains that the small bottles served two (or more) purposes. Inventory was easier - and it made it harder for an
    unscrupulous attendant/bartender to deplete the stock by nipping at
    the bottle. And since the bottles contained about a "jigger/shot" of booze, measurement was simple.

    Sounds like a win-win all the way around (except for the unscrupulous folks). We had our first meal on a train this past spring on our trip
    to Denali from Whittier, Alaska. We were seated so that we could see a
    bit of the kitchen as waiters came in/went out; from what we could see,
    it was very tight working space. The menu we were offered was very limited, looked like very minimal cooking was actually done on the
    train except maybe the salmon chowder. The rest of the hot offerings
    were probably just microwaved.

    Railroad dining car galleys are, of necessity, very tight quarters.
    And they put out some amazing dishes. Airlines, OTOH, use pre-made,
    nuked
    to serving temperature dishes for their in-flight offerings. If you've eaten airline food you'll know it's all lowest common denominator
    stuff.

    I've had airline food, think the last regular meal we had was coming
    back from Berlin in 1992.

    My first railroad meal was on the Rock Island Twin Cities Rocket
    and I DD> was 14 years old. Roast Duckling w/Orange Sauce. I managed to
    get more DD> of it in me than on me. Bv)=

    That's commendable. (G)


    ---
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 3 20:28:12 2024
    Hello Ruth,

    Tuesday January 02 2024 13:40, you wrote to me:

    Thanks, I've seen similiar to this before but taking up several pages.
    I don't use alcohol that much in my cooking but it's nice to know what
    can be subbed for it so I don't have to buy lots of it. (G) Steve used
    a splash of white wine in the scallops done scampi style (no real
    recipe) the other night but it was unnoticeable as such. He also used about 15 cloves of garlic--kept the vampires away but good.

    Wine, to me, tastes like rotten grape juice and I have never used it for anything. Garlic is great. Can't get enough of it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cactus Pear Breakfast Shake
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Breakfast
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 Cactus pears; peel/chunked
    1 lg Banana; peel/chunked
    4 Ice cubes
    1 1/2 tb Honey
    1 c Milk

    Press cactus pears through medium disk of food mill. Combine puree in
    blender or processor with banana, ice cubes, honey and milk; whirl
    until no chunks of ice remain. Serve at once to 2.

    from Uncommon Fruits & Vegetables: A Commonsense Guide by Elizabeth
    Schneider

    Source: Chicago Sun Times, March 20, 1986

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jan 5 06:28:10 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If their butchers are truly butchers and not just "meat cutters"
    they'll be able to take a side of (animal) and break it down to its various cuts. Humphrey's buys "sides" of beef, whole hog carcasses,
    etc.

    Don't know, never looked into the back area.

    Most stupormarkups buy "primal cuts" - one step beyond what Humphrey's
    does. Examples of primals include the round, loin, rib, and chuck for
    beef or the ham, loin, Boston butt, and picnic for pork.

    Magro's buys live, on the hoof animals and goes from there.

    True butchers then.

    8<----- NIPPED ----->8

    My dad was a white collar worker (local newspaper/free lance
    photographer) so we didn't have any livestock except cats and dogs. I
    have no idea how he got the chickens but there were a lot of them.

    Did your family have to pluck the feathers and diembowel the chook?

    Just singe the pin feathers, they were all plucked and dressed before going into the freezer.

    After watching my grandmother fire up the laundry stove and put a tub
    of water on to heat, then dip the dewad chook in to hot water to loosen
    the feathers. And let me mother step in to help her pluck those feathers
    and get the bird ready to have the pin feathers seared by the fire in the laundry stove I made myself scarce on chicken plucking days.

    I'm not sure there are any surviving "locker plants" since home
    freezers and refrigerators have become so affordable.

    There may be some in the Amish/Mennonite areas of the country--those
    folks don't have electricity on their farms.

    Just used the Bing search to learn that there are 4 locker plants within
    75 miles of me - the nearest being in a small town (all are small town
    located) about 40 miles away. All are butcher shops as well.

    Amish, maybe. Mennonites are more modern. We have an Amish enclave
    near to here (Arthur, IL) and marketroids often us "Amish made" as a touchstone when sellin a whole range of things.

    Usually a better quality than the average. We got intoduced to a new to
    us Mennonite place last time we went thru Pennsylvania. Picked up
    several kitchen tools, means to make cold brewed coffee, socks....

    I always thought a Monnonite was pretty much and Amish with a phone
    and a car. Bv)=

    There are some other differences but I'm not really sure on what's what except that the Amish are the strictest in their separation from the English of the various sects. They've modernised some, but still hold
    to a lot of the old ways. Both Amish and Mennonitess have various
    degrees of separation from the world but both maintain a strong "apart-ness".

    I have to keep remembering that the Amish were the original "Pennsylvania Dutch". Which sort of explains a lot.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: German Soup Balls
    Categories: Meatballs, Dairy, Soups
    Yield: 24 Meatballs

    3 lb Soup meat
    2 qt Water
    4 lg Eggs
    1 c Flour
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 c Milk

    Add the water to the soup meat, season to taste and cook
    slowly for several hours. A half hour before serving
    time, make soup balls as follows: combine the salt and
    flour and work in the butter. Beat the eggs and add to
    flour. Stir in the milk, using only enough to make
    batter thin enough to drop by spoon. Drop by spoonfuls
    into the boiling hot broth and cook for 10 minutes.
    Serve in hot soup at once.

    Source: Pennsylvania Dutch Cook Book - Fine Old
    : Recipes, Culinary Arts Press, 1936.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jan 4 12:01:21 2024
    Hi Sean,

    can be subbed for it so I don't have to buy lots of it. (G) Steve used
    a splash of white wine in the scallops done scampi style (no real
    recipe) the other night but it was unnoticeable as such. He also used about 15 cloves of garlic--kept the vampires away but good.

    Wine, to me, tastes like rotten grape juice and I have never used it
    for anything. Garlic is great. Can't get enough of it.

    So far we've not come across any that give us that reaction/taste. We
    just started using it within probably the last 5 years or so, and not
    that much at any time.


    Title: Cactus Pear Breakfast Shake
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Breakfast
    Yield: 2 Servings

    OK, prickly pear fruuit, AKA tunas. When we were in AZ, one of our
    neighbors had a nice prickly pear patch in the side yard. One fall Steve
    picked some (using bbq tongs) and made jelly from the juice. I don't
    remember the taste but the color was a nice rich ruby red.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jan 6 06:12:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    can be subbed for it so I don't have to buy lots of it. (G) Steve used
    a splash of white wine in the scallops done scampi style (no real
    recipe) the other night but it was unnoticeable as such. He also used about 15 cloves of garlic--kept the vampires away but good.

    Wine, to me, tastes like rotten grape juice and I have never used it
    for anything. Garlic is great. Can't get enough of it.

    So far we've not come across any that give us that reaction/taste. We
    just started using it within probably the last 5 years or so, and not
    that much at any time.

    Grape juice is far sweeter (even the "no sugar added") than even the
    sweetest of wines. If I am buying wine to sip I prefer a "dry" red like
    a Merlot or Chianti.

    Title: Cactus Pear Breakfast Shake
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Breakfast
    Yield: 2 Servings

    OK, prickly pear fruuit, AKA tunas. When we were in AZ, one of our neighbors had a nice prickly pear patch in the side yard. One fall
    Steve picked some (using bbq tongs) and made jelly from the juice. I
    don't remember the taste but the color was a nice rich ruby red.

    No actual cacti were harmed in the m aking of this recipe:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cactus Chicken-Fried Steak
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Chilies, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Servings

    6 (6-oz ea) cubed round steak
    3 lg Eggs
    1/2 c Water
    2 c Unbleached Flour
    1 qt Oil; for frying
    2 1/2 c Milk
    1 tb Instant Chicken Bouillon
    +=OR=+
    1 tb Chicken Base
    3 tb Jalapeno seasoning salt *
    1 c Garlic Salt
    3/4 c Celery Salt
    1/4 c Salt
    2 c Jalapeno chile powder *
    1/2 c New Mexico chile powder *

    * These items should be available at grocery and
    specialty stores that handle Mexican foods.

    Add the Jalapeno seasoning salt to the flour and mix
    well. Dip each steak into the seasoned flour, then dip
    into the egg wash, (mix the eggs and water in a separate
    bowl for the egg wash), and dip the meat back into the
    seasoned flour, coating each steak well.

    Heat the vegetable oil to about 350ºF/175ºC. in a large
    skillet. Oil should be deep enough to cover the steaks.
    Fry the coated steaks until golden brown, then drain
    them on paper towels and put on a heated platter that is
    tented with foil.

    Pour off all but 2 tb of the oil and the drippings. Add
    3 tb of the leftover seasoned flour. Mix well and cook
    over medium heat, stirring constantly, until the oil and
    flour are golden brown. Remove from the heat and add the
    milk and chicken bouillon or chicken base. Return to the
    heat and bring to a simmer, stirring constantly, until
    the gravy thickens. Serve spooned over the steaks.

    Serves 6

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jan 5 13:44:28 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Most stupormarkups buy "primal cuts" - one step beyond what Humphrey's does. Examples of primals include the round, loin, rib, and chuck for
    beef or the ham, loin, Boston butt, and picnic for pork.

    I see plenty of those in the meat bins.

    Magro's buys live, on the hoof animals and goes from there.

    True butchers then.

    8<----- NIPPED ----->8

    My dad was a white collar worker (local newspaper/free lance
    photographer) so we didn't have any livestock except cats and dogs. I
    have no idea how he got the chickens but there were a lot of them.

    Did your family have to pluck the feathers and diembowel the chook?

    Just singe the pin feathers, they were all plucked and dressed before going into the freezer.

    After watching my grandmother fire up the laundry stove and put a tub
    of water on to heat, then dip the dewad chook in to hot water to
    loosen the feathers. And let me mother step in to help her pluck those feathers and get the bird ready to have the pin feathers seared by the fire in the laundry stove I made myself scarce on chicken plucking
    days.

    I think I would too. Our younger daughter had chickens for a while and
    would kill & pluck them, don't know if her boys helped any. I think she
    only did it one time when we were visiting, and I didn't offer to help.


    I'm not sure there are any surviving "locker plants" since home
    freezers and refrigerators have become so affordable.

    There may be some in the Amish/Mennonite areas of the country--those
    folks don't have electricity on their farms.

    Just used the Bing search to learn that there are 4 locker plants
    within 75 miles of me - the nearest being in a small town (all are
    small town
    located) about 40 miles away. All are butcher shops as well.

    No surprise. As I recall, the one in our town was just the freezer
    plant, probably put in when ice harvesting was still being done. Major
    part of downtown (including that plant) was destroyed in a fire in 1976
    and that building wasn't rebuilt.


    Amish, maybe. Mennonites are more modern. We have an Amish enclave
    near to here (Arthur, IL) and marketroids often us "Amish made" as a touchstone when sellin a whole range of things.

    Usually a better quality than the average. We got intoduced to a new to
    us Mennonite place last time we went thru Pennsylvania. Picked up
    several kitchen tools, means to make cold brewed coffee, socks....

    I always thought a Monnonite was pretty much and Amish with a phone
    and a car. Bv)=

    There are some other differences but I'm not really sure on what's what except that the Amish are the strictest in their separation from the English of the various sects. They've modernised some, but still hold
    to a lot of the old ways. Both Amish and Mennonitess have various
    degrees of separation from the world but both maintain a strong "apart-ness".

    I have to keep remembering that the Amish were the original
    "Pennsylvania Dutch". Which sort of explains a lot.

    True, and to them, we're English, no matter what our ethnic heritage is.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jan 6 12:21:08 2024
    Hi Dave,

    can be subbed for it so I don't have to buy lots of it. (G) Steve used
    a splash of white wine in the scallops done scampi style (no real
    recipe) the other night but it was unnoticeable as such. He also used about 15 cloves of garlic--kept the vampires away but good.

    Wine, to me, tastes like rotten grape juice and I have never used it
    for anything. Garlic is great. Can't get enough of it.

    So far we've not come across any that give us that reaction/taste. We
    just started using it within probably the last 5 years or so, and not
    that much at any time.

    Grape juice is far sweeter (even the "no sugar added") than even the sweetest of wines. If I am buying wine to sip I prefer a "dry" red
    like a Merlot or Chianti.

    For years I bought orange juice concentrate, added water and had OJ in
    the morning. Occaisionally I'd buy apple or grape juice concentrate, do
    the same thing. Grape juice is definatly sweet; I liked it as a change
    up from OJ but wouldn't want it every morning. Reason I stopped with
    those juices in the morning was the diabetes diagnosis, dietician told
    me no more morning juice. Things stabilised, got off insulin and have an occaisional glass of juice in the morning, usually when travelling. It's usually orange juice, grape juice is now only when we do Lord's Supper
    at church. Side note to all that--when I was growing up, my mom would
    (rarely) buy grape juuice for our breakfasts. We'd have to drink it
    right away, then she would scoop up the glasses (plastic) and wash them
    right away because she was paranoid about grape juice stains.

    Title: Cactus Pear Breakfast Shake SD> Categories:
    Beverages, Fruits, Breakfast SD> Yield: 2 Servings

    OK, prickly pear fruuit, AKA tunas. When we were in AZ, one of our neighbors had a nice prickly pear patch in the side yard. One fall
    Steve picked some (using bbq tongs) and made jelly from the juice. I
    don't remember the taste but the color was a nice rich ruby red.

    No actual cacti were harmed in the m aking of this recipe:


    Title: Cactus Chicken-Fried Steak
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Chilies, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Servings

    So, why name it cactus CFS? (G) I'd definatly modifly this if I were to
    make it--cut way down on the salt for sure. Also, NM chili powder?
    Possibly ancho chilis?


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 8 05:22:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    So far we've not come across any that give us that reaction/taste. We
    just started using it within probably the last 5 years or so, and not
    that much at any time.

    Grape juice is far sweeter (even the "no sugar added") than even the sweetest of wines. If I am buying wine to sip I prefer a "dry" red
    like a Merlot or Chianti.

    For years I bought orange juice concentrate, added water and had OJ in
    the morning. Occaisionally I'd buy apple or grape juice concentrate, do the same thing. Grape juice is definatly sweet; I liked it as a change
    up from OJ but wouldn't want it every morning. Reason I stopped with
    those juices in the morning was the diabetes diagnosis, dietician told
    me no more morning juice. Things stabilised, got off insulin and have
    an occaisional glass of juice in the morning, usually when travelling. It's usually orange juice, grape juice is now only when we do Lord's Supper at church. Side note to all that--when I was growing up, my mom would (rarely) buy grape juuice for our breakfasts. We'd have to drink
    it right away, then she would scoop up the glasses (plastic) and wash
    them right away because she was paranoid about grape juice stains.

    My go-to juice is tomato. Sevond place is grapefruit. Both w/no sugar
    added. I also have started doing cranberry juice (not the "cocktail")

    Title: Cactus Pear Breakfast Shake SD> Categories:
    Beverages, Fruits, Breakfast SD> Yield: 2 Servings

    OK, prickly pear fruuit, AKA tunas. When we were in AZ, one of our neighbors had a nice prickly pear patch in the side yard. One fall
    Steve picked some (using bbq tongs) and made jelly from the juice. I
    don't remember the taste but the color was a nice rich ruby red.

    No actual cacti were harmed in the m aking of this recipe:

    Title: Cactus Chicken-Fried Steak
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Chilies, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Servings

    So, why name it cactus CFS? (G) I'd definatly modifly this if I were to make it--cut way down on the salt for sure. Also, NM chili powder? Possibly ancho chilis?

    I didn't name it so I've no clew. The following recipe should answer your quibble about "NM chili powder?"

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Green Chilies Rellenos (Stuffed Green Chilies)
    Categories: Latino, Vegetables, Chilies, Cheese
    Yield: 5 Servings

    10 lg Green chilies; NuMex, Big
    - Jim or Anaheim, roasted,
    - peeled, stems on
    10 oz Longhorn (yellow) or Jack
    - (white) cheese
    1 lg Onion; peeled, in thin
    - slivers, opt

    MMMMM---------------------------BATTER--------------------------------
    1 c A-P flour
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    3/4 c Cornmeal
    1 c Milk
    2 lg Eggs; slightly beaten

    To make batter, combine flour, baking powder, salt and
    cornmeal. Blend milk with egg;then combine milk and egg
    mixture with dry ingredients. Add more milk if necessary
    for a smooth batter.

    Cut cheese into slices or batons 1/4" thick and the length
    of the chile pods. Make a small slit in roasted chile just
    big enough to insert cheese (you can also poke in some of
    the slivers of onion at this point).

    Heat a deep fryer or skillet w/an inch or so of oil to a
    temperature of 375ºF/190ºC.

    Using a spoon, dip stuffed chilies in batter then fry in the
    hot oil or lard until golden brown. Drain and serve. May be
    garnished with green chile sauce if desired.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jan 8 12:41:46 2024
    Hi Dave,


    For years I bought orange juice concentrate, added water and had OJ in
    the morning. Occaisionally I'd buy apple or grape juice concentrate, do the same thing. Grape juice is definatly sweet; I liked it as a change
    up from OJ but wouldn't want it every morning. Reason I stopped with
    those juices in the morning was the diabetes diagnosis, dietician told

    My go-to juice is tomato. Sevond place is grapefruit. Both w/no sugar added. I also have started doing cranberry juice (not the "cocktail")

    I tried V-8 (or knock offs) for a while, favorite was Whole Foods
    version. But even that didn't sit right as a morning drink so I gave it
    up and now usually have just a mug of tea (British Blend by Tetley) as
    my morning drink, sweetened with a packet of stevia.


    Title: Cactus Pear Breakfast Shake SD> Categories:
    Beverages, Fruits, Breakfast SD> Yield: 2 Servings

    OK, prickly pear fruit, AKA tunas. When we were in AZ, one of our neighbors had a nice prickly pear patch in the side yard. One fall
    Steve picked some (using bbq tongs) and made jelly from the juice. I
    don't remember the taste but the color was a nice rich ruby red.

    No actual cacti were harmed in the m aking of this recipe:

    Title: Cactus Chicken-Fried Steak
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Chilies, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Servings

    So, why name it cactus CFS? (G) I'd definatly modifly this if I were to make it--cut way down on the salt for sure. Also, NM chili powder? Possibly ancho chilis?

    I didn't name it so I've no clew. The following recipe should answer
    your quibble about "NM chili powder?"


    Title: Green Chilies Rellenos (Stuffed Green Chilies)
    Categories: Latino, Vegetables, Chilies, Cheese
    Yield: 5 Servings

    10 lg Green chilies; NuMex, Big
    - Jim or Anaheim, roasted,

    They do grow a lot of Anaheims out there. (G) Back in 2006 we drove
    cross country from LA (landed there from Honolulu) up to LVNV, then down
    to AZ and across. Routed thru Hatch, NM about a week after their big
    fall chili fest; the aroma of roasted chilis was still in the air.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 10 06:01:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    No actual cacti were harmed in the m aking of this recipe:

    Title: Cactus Chicken-Fried Steak
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Chilies, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Servings

    So, why name it cactus CFS? (G) I'd definatly modifly this if I were
    to make it--cut way down on the salt for sure. Also, NM chili powder? Possibly ancho chilis?

    I didn't name it so I've no clew. The following recipe should
    answer your quibble about "NM chili powder?"


    Title: Green Chilies Rellenos (Stuffed Green Chilies)
    Categories: Latino, Vegetables, Chilies, Cheese
    Yield: 5 Servings

    10 lg Green chilies; NuMex, Big
    - Jim or Anaheim, roasted,

    They do grow a lot of Anaheims out there. (G) Back in 2006 we drove
    cross country from LA (landed there from Honolulu) up to LVNV, then
    down to AZ and across. Routed thru Hatch, NM about a week after their
    big fall chili fest; the aroma of roasted chilis was still in the air.

    Hatch chilies are of the NuMex cultivar and the "terrior" (compisition
    of the soil) gives them a slightly different flavour from regular NuMex
    and/or Anaheims.

    Anaheims were taken from New Mexico to California in the early 1900s
    and were bred to be milder in order to suit the taste of the
    "norteamericanos" of that time. They became popular in Anaheim, a city
    in California, and the peppers go by either name—the city or the state.

    NuMex (with the Hatch, Big Jim and heirloom cultivars) are virtually
    identical to California and Anaheim peppers, with one distinct difference: they are much, much hotter. Hatch chilies are New Mexico chilies that
    are grown in the small town of Hatch, New Mexico, and are considered
    premium green chilies.

    The Big Jim chile holds the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest chile pepper in the world, with individual fruits routinely exceeding 14"
    in length. The peppers are mild when still green, but become more spicy
    as they ripen to red. They are rarely used as in their ripe form.

    Poblanos are the other big green chile. They are dark green in color,
    wide at the stem and narrow along the length of the pepper. When
    they're mature, they’re about 4" long and 2" wide.

    When left to fully ripen and dry out, the dehydrated and dried poblano
    peppers are called ancho chilies.

    Both fresh poblanos and their dried counterparts are commonly carried
    in grocery stores throughout the United States. Fresh poblanos are
    typically found near all the other fresh produce, while whole dried
    ancho chilies are usually in the specialty Hispanic foods aisle or
    in the spice aisle as ground ancho chile powder.

    Sorry, you triggered my chilehead gene. Bv)= I'm a "member" of the
    Chile Pepper Institute.

    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The
    Chile Pepper Institute builds on the research of chile peppers
    since the famous horticulturist Fabian Garcia (the father of the
    New Mexico chile pepper industry) began standardizing chile pepper
    varieties in 1888.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chilli-Stuffed Poblano Peppers
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb 90% lean ground beef *
    15 oz Can chilli w/o beans
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Mexican cheese blend;
    - shredded, divided
    1 md Tomato; fine chopped
    4 Green onions; chopped
    4 lg Poblano chile peppers
    1 tb Olive oil

    * original called for turkey - UDD

    Heat broiler. In a large skillet over medium heat, cook
    hamburger, crumbling meat, until no longer pink, 5-7
    minutes; drain. Add chili and salt; heat through. Stir
    in 1/2 cup cheese, tomato and green onions.

    Meanwhile, cut peppers lengthwise in half; remove seeds.
    Place on a foil-lined 1z5" X 10" X 1" baking pan, cut
    side down; brush with oil. Broil 4 in. from heat until
    skins blister, about 5 minutes.

    With tongs, turn peppers. Fill with hamburger mixture;
    sprinkle with remaining cheese. Broil until cheese is
    melted, 1-2 minutes longer.

    Lorrie Grabczynski, Commerce Township, Michigan

    Makes: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jan 10 13:22:51 2024
    Hi Dave,

    10 lg Green chilies; NuMex, Big
    - Jim or Anaheim, roasted,

    They do grow a lot of Anaheims out there. (G) Back in 2006 we drove
    cross country from LA (landed there from Honolulu) up to LVNV, then
    down to AZ and across. Routed thru Hatch, NM about a week after their
    big fall chili fest; the aroma of roasted chilis was still in the air.

    Hatch chilies are of the NuMex cultivar and the "terrior" (compisition
    of the soil) gives them a slightly different flavour from regular
    NuMex and/or Anaheims.

    Anaheims were taken from New Mexico to California in the early 1900s
    and were bred to be milder in order to suit the taste of the "norteamericanos" of that time. They became popular in Anaheim, a city
    in California, and the peppers go by either name—the city or the
    state.

    Sorry, you triggered my chilehead gene. Bv)= I'm a "member" of the
    Chile Pepper Institute.

    OK, I could fill your brain with sewing related minutia (such as muslin
    was named for Mosul, Iraq) if I wanted to. (G) When I make my
    competition style chili, I head over to the fresh peppers in the produce department of a grocery store and get an assortment, varying degrees of
    heat and mouth burn. I try to get an even heat all the way thru from the
    lips to the throat, unlike most chilis I've tasted that concentrate the
    heat in only one part of the mouth.

    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The
    Chile Pepper Institute builds on the research of chile peppers
    since the famous horticulturist Fabian Garcia (the father of the
    New Mexico chile pepper industry) began standardizing chile pepper varieties in 1888.

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    BTW, last night's weather was miserable--rain, wind, tornado & flood
    watches and warnings. We kept our power on so I made beef stew for
    supper, remembered to put a splash of red wine in it. Maybe a quarter
    cup but it made a difference taste wise, just adds a bit more depth of
    flavor.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jan 12 06:52:46 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sorry, you triggered my chilehead gene. Bv)= I'm a "member" of the
    Chile Pepper Institute.

    OK, I could fill your brain with sewing related minutia (such as
    muslin was named for Mosul, Iraq) if I wanted to. (G) When I make
    my competition style chili, I head over to the fresh peppers in the produce department of a grocery store and get an assortment, varying degrees of heat and mouth burn. I try to get an even heat all the way
    thru from the lips to the throat, unlike most chilis I've tasted that concentrate the heat in only one part of the mouth.

    Good luck with that. Some chilies are "front of the mouth" (immediate
    heat) and some are "back of the throat" (Late heat). And a few will
    give a general warm glow that lets you know you've been eating chilies.

    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The
    Chile Pepper Institute builds on the research of chile peppers
    since the famous horticulturist Fabian Garcia (the father of the
    New Mexico chile pepper industry) began standardizing chile pepper varieties in 1888.

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    I generally learn at least one new thing from each of their newsletters.
    I aklways enjoy learning.

    BTW, last night's weather was miserable--rain, wind, tornado & flood watches and warnings. We kept our power on so I made beef stew for
    supper, remembered to put a splash of red wine in it. Maybe a quarter
    cup but it made a difference taste wise, just adds a bit more depth of flavor.

    Currently (05:40) it's 35ºF and raining. It's supposed to go to 45ºF
    before heading for the cellar and -02ºF for a high on Sunday. BRRRRRR
    The newspaper today had an article on keeping your pipes from freezing.
    Since many of my pipes are on an outside wall I keep basw cabinet doors
    open to let the room air help them stay free running.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    1 Can (or 2) frozen left-over
    - vegetables; corn, peas,
    - green beans, carrots, and/
    - or broccoli/cauliflower
    2 Sliced carrots; if needed
    3 Ribs celery w/tops; sliced
    2 md Onions; diced
    2 md Potatoes; peeled, diced 1/4"
    14 oz Can diced tomatoes;
    - undrained
    3 c Water
    1 ts Salt
    4 Cracked peppercorns
    1 lb Leftover beef; diced small
    3 ts GFS/Minor's beef base

    Take the container(s) of left-over vegetables from the
    freezer and put into a 5 (or so) quart crock-pot.

    While the pot is melting the frozen ingredients prepare
    the carrots, celery, onion, and 'taters. Add to the pot.

    Open the can of tomatoes, pour over other ingredients
    in the crock-pot.

    Heat the water to a simmer, add the beef, beef base and
    salt/pepper, stirring well until beef base is dissolved
    and all is well combined. Remove from heat and pour
    over crock-pot ingredients.

    Cover and cook for 3 to 4 hours (high) or 6 to 8 hours
    (low)

    Serves six to twelve servings

    NOTE: I save bits and bobs of leftover veg in a washed
    and cleaned tomato juice can, covering each addition
    with water and freezing as I go. When I have a can (or
    two) full I am ready to make this soup.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jan 12 12:18:38 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Sorry, you triggered my chilehead gene. Bv)= I'm a "member" of the
    Chile Pepper Institute.

    OK, I could fill your brain with sewing related minutia (such as
    muslin was named for Mosul, Iraq) if I wanted to. (G) When I make
    my competition style chili, I head over to the fresh peppers in the produce department of a grocery store and get an assortment, varying degrees of heat and mouth burn. I try to get an even heat all the way
    thru from the lips to the throat, unlike most chilis I've tasted that concentrate the heat in only one part of the mouth.

    Good luck with that. Some chilies are "front of the mouth" (immediate heat) and some are "back of the throat" (Late heat). And a few will
    give a general warm glow that lets you know you've been eating
    chilies.

    Anything from anchos, poblanos, serranos, jalapenos, anaheims to a bell
    pepper or two (for color) and points in between. Usually toss in some
    chipotle powder as well.


    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    I generally learn at least one new thing from each of their
    newsletters. I aklways enjoy learning.

    I do too, in areas of interest to me.


    BTW, last night's weather was miserable--rain, wind, tornado & flood watches and warnings. We kept our power on so I made beef stew for
    supper, remembered to put a splash of red wine in it. Maybe a quarter
    cup but it made a difference taste wise, just adds a bit more depth of flavor.

    Currently (05:40) it's 35ºF and raining. It's supposed to go to
    45ºF before heading for the cellar and -02ºF for a high on Sunday. BRRRRRR

    We're getting another wind/rain storm this afternoon/tonight, followed
    by another, early next week. American weather model suggests snow with
    that one but European says none.


    The newspaper today had an article on keeping your pipes from
    freezing. Since many of my pipes are on an outside wall I keep basw cabinet doors open to let the room air help them stay free running.

    That's something we've done for years, both when I was growing up and as
    an adult in various places we've lived.

    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks good but I make mine corn free, much as I'd like to add it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jan 14 06:20:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Good luck with that. Some chilies are "front of the mouth" (immediate heat) and some are "back of the throat" (Late heat). And a few
    will give a general warm glow that lets you know you've been eating chilies.

    Anything from anchos, poblanos, serranos, jalapenos, anaheims to
    a bell pepper or two (for color) and points in between. Usually
    toss in some chipotle powder as well.

    If you use Mexi-bells (a cross between jalapenos and bell peppers)
    you can have heat as well as colour. Ancho chilies are the "almost"
    ripe form of the poblano - so other than colour, basically the same
    chile.

    If I'm making salsa (or Pico de Gallo) I prefer serrano over jalapeno.
    Both for the heat level and the flavour.

    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    I generally learn at least one new thing from each of their
    newsletters. I aklways enjoy learning.

    I do too, in areas of interest to me.

    My problem is curiosity. I get interested in some odd things and spend
    a fair whack of my time learning about them. That's how I got into the
    computer world. Bv)=

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    The newspaper today had an article on keeping your pipes from
    freezing. Since many of my pipes are on an outside wall I keep basw cabinet doors open to let the room air help them stay free running.

    That's something we've done for years, both when I was growing up and
    as an adult in various places we've lived.

    It's really good practice. And I'm surprised more people aren't aware
    of it/don't do it. If really severe cold is predicted (lower than -10-|F)
    I'll also open a tap to just a steady drip ... which also helps prevent freezing up,

    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks good but I make mine corn free, much as I'd like to add it.

    I keep forgetting about Steve's unfortunate corn allergy. I was going
    to post my prize-winning salsa/pico de gallo recipe but I 86ed that in
    favour of this no-corn (or beans) version.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fresh Pico de Gallo
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 lg White onion; fine dice
    4 Ripe plum tomatoes; seeded,
    - diced
    2 (or 3) jalapenos or serranos
    - or a combination: seeded;
    - fine chopped
    1/2 c Fresh cilantro leaves;
    - chopped
    1 tb Lime juice
    Salt

    Combine all the ingredients, cover, and refrigerate for
    an hour.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jan 14 19:59:27 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Good luck with that. Some chilies are "front of the mouth" (immediate heat) and some are "back of the throat" (Late heat). And a few
    will give a general warm glow that lets you know you've been eating chilies.

    Anything from anchos, poblanos, serranos, jalapenos, anaheims to
    a bell pepper or two (for color) and points in between. Usually
    toss in some chipotle powder as well.

    If you use Mexi-bells (a cross between jalapenos and bell peppers)
    you can have heat as well as colour. Ancho chilies are the "almost"
    ripe form of the poblano - so other than colour, basically the same
    chile.

    Don't think I've seen the Mexi-bells around here. Do know that one year
    qhen we planted bells and jalapenos, they cross pollenated so we had
    hot, bitter bells and no heat jalapenos. I usually buy from one or
    another spice dealer the ancho chilis in powdered form, keeping a small
    amount out at a time and extra in the freezer.

    If I'm making salsa (or Pico de Gallo) I prefer serrano over
    jalapeno. DD> Both for the heat level and the flavour.

    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    I generally learn at least one new thing from each of their
    newsletters. I aklways enjoy learning.

    I do too, in areas of interest to me.

    My problem is curiosity. I get interested in some odd things and spend
    a fair whack of my time learning about them. That's how I got into the computer world. Bv)=

    Sounds about right. Steve had wnated to get into radio years ago but the
    lack of funding and needing to know Morse code were hinderences. Money
    crunch eased up and need to know Morse was dropped so in August of 2020,
    he got his first radio. Now he has more radios than I have sewing
    machines.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    The newspaper today had an article on keeping your pipes from
    freezing. Since many of my pipes are on an outside wall I keep basw cabinet doors open to let the room air help them stay free running.

    That's something we've done for years, both when I was growing up and
    as an adult in various places we've lived.

    It's really good practice. And I'm surprised more people aren't aware
    of it/don't do it. If really severe cold is predicted (lower than
    -10-|F) I'll also open a tap to just a steady drip ... which also
    helps prevent freezing up,

    We've done that too. Supposed to get quite cold next week end but still
    be above 0.


    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks good but I make mine corn free, much as I'd like to add it.

    I keep forgetting about Steve's unfortunate corn allergy. I was going
    to post my prize-winning salsa/pico de gallo recipe but I 86ed that in favour of this no-corn (or beans) version.


    Title: Fresh Pico de Gallo
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 2 Servings

    We'll leave out the cilantro as neither of us care for the taste of it.
    I can take it in (very) small quantities but even a little bit will
    taste like soap to Steve.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 16 05:38:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If you use Mexi-bells (a cross between jalapenos and bell peppers)
    you can have heat as well as colour. Ancho chilies are the "almost"
    ripe form of the poblano - so other than colour, basically the same
    chile.

    Don't think I've seen the Mexi-bells around here. Do know that one year qhen we planted bells and jalapenos, they cross pollenated so we had
    hot, bitter bells and no heat jalapenos. I usually buy from one or
    another spice dealer the ancho chilis in powdered form, keeping a small amount out at a time and extra in the freezer.

    You've discovered how Mexi-Bells are made. Bv)= I like Mexi-bells for
    some things where both bell pepper and chile is specified - they have
    a little bite but are considered fairly mild.

    I buy my chilli spice and other components like cumin and Worcestershire
    powder from https://penderys.com.

    My bell peppers are "Sweet Chinese Giants" an heirloom cultivar from
    Burpee Seeds. The mature fruits are as long as 6" and 5" across. Great
    for stuffed peppers.

    If I'm making salsa (or Pico de Gallo) I prefer serrano over
    jalapeno. Both for the heat level and the flavour.

    "The Chile Pepper Institute is the world's only international,
    non-profit organization dedicated to the research and education
    related to Capsicum, or chile peppers. Established in 1992, The

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    I generally learn at least one new thing from each of their
    newsletters. I always enjoy learning.

    I do too, in areas of interest to me.

    My problem is curiosity. I get interested in some odd things and
    spend a fair whack of my time learning about them. That's how I
    got into the computer world. Bv)=

    Sounds about right. Steve had wnated to get into radio years ago but
    the lack of funding and needing to know Morse code were hinderences.
    Money crunch eased up and need to know Morse was dropped so in August
    of 2020, he got his first radio. Now he has more radios than I have
    sewing machines.

    Snicker

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    The newspaper today had an article on keeping your pipes from
    freezing. Since many of my pipes are on an outside wall I keep basw cabinet doors open to let the room air help them stay free running.

    That's something we've done for years, both when I was growing up and
    as an adult in various places we've lived.

    It's really good practice. And I'm surprised more people aren't aware
    of it/don't do it. If really severe cold is predicted (lower than
    -10-|F) I'll also open a tap to just a steady drip ... which also
    helps prevent freezing up,

    We've done that too. Supposed to get quite cold next week end but
    still be above 0.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the day
    was -1ºF. Yesterday it got all the way to +5ºF. Supposed to reach the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks good but I make mine corn free, much as I'd like to add it.

    I keep forgetting about Steve's unfortunate corn allergy. I was going
    to post my prize-winning salsa/pico de gallo recipe but I 86ed that in favour of this no-corn (or beans) version.

    Title: Fresh Pico de Gallo
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 2 Servings

    We'll leave out the cilantro as neither of us care for the taste of it.
    I can take it in (very) small quantities but even a little bit will
    taste like soap to Steve.

    I am not a huge fan of the soap weed. So, while I use some, I'm careful
    not to "overload" - which is easy to do with cilantro. Some dishes don't
    taste "right" to me without at least some cilantro.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hy-Vee Stuffed Bell Peppers
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Grains, Rice, Cheese
    Yield: 6 Servings

    6 md Red bell peppers
    1 lb 90% lean ground beef
    1/2 lg White onion; diced
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1/2 c Diced green bell pepper
    1/2 c Shredded carrots
    1/4 c Dry quick barley
    1/2 c Dry instant brown rice
    1 c Broth
    1 c Shredded mozzarella; divided

    Set oven to 250°F/120°C.

    Cut tops off peppers; * remove seeds and membranes. Place
    peppers in a large pot; cover with salted water. Bring to
    a boil; reduce heat, cover and simmer for 5 minutes. Drain
    peppers and set aside.

    In a large skillet, brown beef with diced onion and garlic.

    Stir in bell pepper, carrots, barley, rice and broth.
    Simmer, covered, for 10 to 15 minutes.

    Stir in 1/2 cup cheese.

    Fill each bell pepper with beef mixture. Top each with
    remaining cheese and bake for 25 minutes.

    * Dice the tops you cut off and mix them in with the
    green bell pepper. - UDD

    From: http://www.hy-vee.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jan 16 13:22:49 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Don't think I've seen the Mexi-bells around here. Do know that one year when we planted bells and jalapenos, they cross pollenated so we
    had RH> hot, bitter bells and no heat jalapenos. I usually buy from one
    or RH> another spice dealer the ancho chilis in powdered form, keeping
    a small RH> amount out at a time and extra in the freezer.

    You've discovered how Mexi-Bells are made. Bv)= I like Mexi-bells for some things where both bell pepper and chile is specified - they have
    a little bite but are considered fairly mild.

    Usually not a problem for most people but we have a friend that
    considers anything above a bell pepper as too hot.


    I buy my chilli spice and other components like cumin and
    Worcestershire powder from https://penderys.com.

    I used to get from the Penzy's store in Raleigh but they went belly up.
    There's another spice store nearby where we've gotten some of the "must
    haves" from time to time.

    I've got my iron in enough fires already, same reason I told Steve not
    to push ham radio on me, to get into something like that. Sounds like interesting reading tho.

    I generally learn at least one new thing from each of their
    newsletters. I always enjoy learning.

    I do too, in areas of interest to me.

    My problem is curiosity. I get interested in some odd things and
    spend a fair whack of my time learning about them. That's how I
    got into the computer world. Bv)=

    Sounds about right. Steve had wanted to get into radio years ago
    but RH> the lack of funding and needing to know Morse code were
    hinderences. RH> Money crunch eased up and need to know Morse was
    dropped so in August RH> of 2020, he got his first radio. Now he has
    more radios than I have RH> sewing machines.

    Snicker

    If you count my serger and embroidery machines, we're about equal.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    It's really good practice. And I'm surprised more people aren't aware
    of it/don't do it. If really severe cold is predicted (lower than
    -10-|F) I'll also open a tap to just a steady drip ... which also
    helps prevent freezing up,

    We've done that too. Supposed to get quite cold next week end but
    still be above 0.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the day
    was -1ºF. Yesterday it got all the way to +5ºF. Supposed to reach
    the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Right now (1:30 pm) it's 36 and rainy. Temps have been falling all day
    but we've got a brisket on the smoker.


    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks good but I make mine corn free, much as I'd like to add it.

    I keep forgetting about Steve's unfortunate corn allergy. I was going
    to post my prize-winning salsa/pico de gallo recipe but I 86ed that in favour of this no-corn (or beans) version.

    Title: Fresh Pico de Gallo
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 2 Servings

    We'll leave out the cilantro as neither of us care for the taste of it.
    I can take it in (very) small quantities but even a little bit will
    taste like soap to Steve.

    I am not a huge fan of the soap weed. So, while I use some, I'm
    careful not to "overload" - which is easy to do with cilantro. Some
    dishes don't taste "right" to me without at least some cilantro.

    No problem for us to leave it out.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jan 18 06:58:15 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    You've discovered how Mexi-Bells are made. Bv)= I like Mexi-bells for some things where both bell pepper and chile is specified - they have
    a little bite but are considered fairly mild.

    Usually not a problem for most people but we have a friend that
    considers anything above a bell pepper as too hot.

    And, as far as I can tell, straight-up bell peppers have *NO* heat. The
    Pepper Scale @ https://pepperscale.com tellsm us:

    "Bell pepper fast facts. Scoville heat units (SHU): 0 SHU. Median heat:
    0 SHU. Origin: Mexico, South America. Capsicum species: Annuum

    I buy my chilli spice and other components like cumin and
    Worcestershire powder from https://penderys.com.

    I used to get from the Penzy's store in Raleigh but they went belly up. There's another spice store nearby where we've gotten some of the "must haves" from time to time.

    I sort of misspoke - I buy "specialy" chilli spice blends from Pendery's.
    My base chilli spice is Baron's Dark which I buy in five pound batches
    from M.J. Kellner who are a wholesale restaurasnt supply. Since I am not
    a restaurant I go to their warehouse to pick up my product - which I
    store in my ice box to keep it fresh.

    Baron's can be bought online right from https://baronspices.com

    Cumin I buy from one of my local Asian stores as that cuisine uses more
    cumin in more dishes than the normal run of prepared food for "round
    eyes" and, thus, tends to be fresher than what's on my stupormarkup
    shelves.


    8<----- CUT ----->8

    It's really good practice. And I'm surprised more people aren't aware
    of it/don't do it. If really severe cold is predicted (lower than
    -10-|F) I'll also open a tap to just a steady drip ... which also
    helps prevent freezing up,

    We've done that too. Supposed to get quite cold next week end but
    still be above 0.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the day
    was -1ºF. Yesterday it got all the way to +5ºF. Supposed to reach
    the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Right now (1:30 pm) it's 36 and rainy. Temps have been falling all day
    but we've got a brisket on the smoker.

    Yesterday (Wednesday) we got almost to the freezing point. And saw sun
    light finally which helped melting snow/ice left on the dark asphalt of
    the local highways and byways. Today is guesstimated to reach 34ºF. Then
    right back into the deep freeze.

    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    Title: Fresh Pico de Gallo
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 2 Servings

    We'll leave out the cilantro as neither of us care for the taste of it.
    I can take it in (very) small quantities but even a little bit will
    taste like soap to Steve.

    I am not a huge fan of the soap weed. So, while I use some, I'm
    careful not to "overload" - which is easy to do with cilantro. Some
    dishes don't taste "right" to me without at least some cilantro.

    No problem for us to leave it out.

    According to Real Simple cumin, curry powder and caraway are the best
    subs for dried cilantro/coriander. To wit:

    "Caraway and coriander are almost interchangeable. Their flavor profiles
    are so similar, you can use it easily any place you're supposed to use coriander. The flavor is a bit sweeter, however, so it's especially good
    in marinades and spice rubs where roasting or grilling amplifies the
    flavor."

    Best substitutes for fresh are basil, parsley and dill.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cilantro-Free Pico de Gallo
    Categories: Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 4 servings

    6 md Vine-ripened tomatoes; in
    - small dice
    1 sm Red onion; in fine dice
    2 Jalapeno or serrano chilies;
    - stemmed, seeded, deveined,
    - finely diced
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    2 tb Fresh squeezed lime juice
    1 ts (heaping) Mexican oregano
    1/4 ts Ground cumin
    1 ts Smoked paprika
    Salt

    Combine ingredients and mix thoroughly.

    Crush the Mexican oregano leaves between your fingers
    as you add them to the mix.

    Let this sit overnight for more developed flavors.

    Serve with tortilla chips. This makes a great topping
    for nachos or queso dip too.

    Yield: 4 to 5 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.thespicehouse.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jan 18 11:57:11 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Usually not a problem for most people but we have a friend that
    considers anything above a bell pepper as too hot.

    And, as far as I can tell, straight-up bell peppers have *NO* heat.
    The Pepper Scale @ https://pepperscale.com tellsm us:
    "Bell pepper fast facts. Scoville heat units (SHU): 0 SHU. Median
    heat: 0 SHU. Origin: Mexico, South America. Capsicum species:
    Annuum

    That's the whole thing--she can't take any heat. Once while we were both
    in HI, we (her & our husbands) went to one of the small Korean places
    that are all over Oahu. She got some kim chee, not knowing what it was,
    just that it looked good to her. She took one bite, the rest either
    stayed on her plate or was given to her husband, I forget which.
    Meanwhile Steve and I enjoyed ours.

    I buy my chilli spice and other components like cumin and
    Worcestershire powder from https://penderys.com.

    I used to get from the Penzy's store in Raleigh but they went belly up. There's another spice store nearby where we've gotten some of the "must haves" from time to time.

    I sort of misspoke - I buy "specialy" chilli spice blends from
    Pendery's. My base chilli spice is Baron's Dark which I buy in five
    pound batches
    from M.J. Kellner who are a wholesale restaurasnt supply. Since I am
    not a restaurant I go to their warehouse to pick up my product - which
    I
    store in my ice box to keep it fresh.

    Sounds like a good idea to me; I'm not sure where the nearest restaurant
    supply place is for us. And, yes, my extras go into the freezer as well.


    Baron's can be bought online right from https://baronspices.com

    Cumin I buy from one of my local Asian stores as that cuisine uses
    more cumin in more dishes than the normal run of prepared food for
    "round
    eyes" and, thus, tends to be fresher than what's on my stupormarkup shelves.

    We've gotten whole cumin and ground it ourselves--major difference, even
    from Asian places. A little bit goes a loooooooooooooooong way.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the day
    was -1ºF. Yesterday it got all the way to +5ºF. Supposed to reach
    the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Right now (1:30 pm) it's 36 and rainy. Temps have been falling all day
    but we've got a brisket on the smoker.

    Yesterday (Wednesday) we got almost to the freezing point. And saw sun light finally which helped melting snow/ice left on the dark asphalt
    of the local highways and byways. Today is guesstimated to reach
    34ºF. Then right back into the deep freeze.

    Our high temperature yesterday was 39, supposed to be a bit warmer today
    and then the bottom will fall out on Friday.


    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jan 20 06:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Usually not a problem for most people but we have a friend that
    considers anything above a bell pepper as too hot.

    And, as far as I can tell, straight-up bell peppers have *NO* heat.
    The Pepper Scale @ https://pepperscale.com tellsm us:
    "Bell pepper fast facts. Scoville heat units (SHU): 0 SHU. Median
    heat: 0 SHU. Origin: Mexico, South America. Capsicum species:
    Annuum

    That's the whole thing--she can't take any heat. Once while we were
    both in HI, we (her & our husbands) went to one of the small Korean
    places that are all over Oahu. She got some kim chee, not knowing what
    it was, just that it looked good to her. She took one bite, the rest either stayed on her plate or was given to her husband, I forget which. Meanwhile Steve and I enjoyed ours.

    As it says in the "facts" that I posted - the bell pepper HAS NO HEAT.
    Zero Scoville units, None, not a one.

    8<----- G'Bye" ----->8

    Cumin I buy from one of my local Asian stores as that cuisine uses
    more cumin in more dishes than the normal run of prepared food for
    "round eyes" and, thus, tends to be fresher than what's on my
    stupormarkup shelves.

    We've gotten whole cumin and ground it ourselves--major difference,
    even from Asian places. A little bit goes a loooooooooooooooong way.

    I can also buy whole, in the spiky husk, durian should I be so inclined.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the day
    was -1.F. Yesterday it got all the way to +5.F. Supposed to reach
    the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Right now (1:30 pm) it's 36 and rainy. Temps have been falling all day
    but we've got a brisket on the smoker.

    Yesterday (Wednesday) we got almost to the freezing point. And saw sun light finally which helped melting snow/ice left on the dark asphalt
    of the local highways and byways. Today is guesstimated to reach
    34.F. Then right back into the deep freeze.

    Our high temperature yesterday was 39, supposed to be a bit warmer
    today and then the bottom will fall out on Friday.

    Climatge is what you expect. Weather is what you get. The only benefit
    I can see in this cold snap is that many of the plants need to go through
    a hard freeze to trigger essential parts of their life cycle.

    We were warm for a couple of days then right back into the ice box with
    6 inches of fresh snow. Supposed to be in the 40s next week and stay. I
    hope that weather guesser knows what s/he's talking about.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Khao Neeo Durian
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Sticky rice; cooked
    2 1/2 c Coconut milk
    1 c Sugar
    1 ts Salt
    1 tb Palm sugar
    4 Drops (or more) durian
    - flavouring
    +=OR=+
    1 c (or more) fresh durian flesh
    1 tb Tapioca starch

    A pleasant dessert not commonly served in Thailand unless
    durian is in high season (May and June), and it's an
    expensive dish so it's not often sold by Thai street
    vendors. When served, the coconut milk drenches the rice
    so it's a "soupy" consistency.

    Dissolve 2 cups coconut milk, 1 cup sugar and 1/2 teaspoon
    salt over medium heat. Add durian/flavouring.

    Topping: Mix 1/2 cup coconut milk with 1/4 teaspoon salt, 1
    tablespoon palm sugar and the tapioca starch. Bring to a
    boil.

    Serving: Place sticky rice in a bowl and pour the sweetened
    coconut milk over it. For each serving, transfer to an
    individual bowl, then top with a few teaspoons of topping
    sauce.

    From: http://importfood.com/recipes

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jan 20 14:00:38 2024
    Hi Dave,


    That's the whole thing--she can't take any heat. Once while we were
    both in HI, we (her & our husbands) went to one of the small Korean
    places that are all over Oahu. She got some kim chee, not knowing what
    it was, just that it looked good to her. She took one bite, the rest either stayed on her plate or was given to her husband, I forget which. Meanwhile Steve and I enjoyed ours.

    As it says in the "facts" that I posted - the bell pepper HAS NO
    HEAT. Zero Scoville units, None, not a one.

    You know and I know but to this lady they had a slight amount of heat,
    more than she would have enjoyed, but she tolerated bells.

    8<----- G'Bye" ----->8

    Cumin I buy from one of my local Asian stores as that cuisine uses
    more cumin in more dishes than the normal run of prepared food for
    "round eyes" and, thus, tends to be fresher than what's on my
    stupormarkup shelves.

    We've gotten whole cumin and ground it ourselves--major difference,
    even from Asian places. A little bit goes a loooooooooooooooong way.

    I can also buy whole, in the spiky husk, durian should I be so
    inclined.

    We can too, but choose not to.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the
    day DD> was -1.F. Yesterday it got all the way to +5.F. Supposed to
    reach DD> the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Right now (1:30 pm) it's 36 and rainy. Temps have been falling all day
    but we've got a brisket on the smoker.

    Yesterday (Wednesday) we got almost to the freezing point. And saw sun light finally which helped melting snow/ice left on the dark asphalt
    of the local highways and byways. Today is guesstimated to reach
    34.F. Then right back into the deep freeze.

    Our high temperature yesterday was 39, supposed to be a bit warmer
    today and then the bottom will fall out on Friday.

    Climatge is what you expect. Weather is what you get. The only benefit
    I can see in this cold snap is that many of the plants need to go
    through a hard freeze to trigger essential parts of their life cycle.

    We had a slightly warmer day yesterday, turned cold after dark. We'd
    gone down to Raleigh for a NC Symphony concert (Christmas gift from
    older daughter) and it was COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLD! when we
    got out about 10pm. Had supper at Outback before going to the
    concert.Right now it's just after 2pm and 29 degrees.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 22 04:45:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That's the whole thing--she can't take any heat. Once while we were
    both in HI, we (her & our husbands) went to one of the small Korean
    places that are all over Oahu. She got some kim chee, not knowing what
    it was, just that it looked good to her. She took one bite, the rest either stayed on her plate or was given to her husband, I forget which. Meanwhile Steve and I enjoyed ours.

    As it says in the "facts" that I posted - the bell pepper HAS NO
    HEAT. Zero Scoville units, None, not a one.

    You know and I know but to this lady they had a slight amount of heat, more than she would have enjoyed, but she tolerated bells.

    Sounds psychosomatic to me. There is "pepper" in the name - must be hot.

    8<----- G'Bye" ----->8

    Cumin I buy from one of my local Asian stores as that cuisine uses
    more cumin in more dishes than the normal run of prepared food for
    "round eyes" and, thus, tends to be fresher than what's on my
    stupormarkup shelves.

    We've gotten whole cumin and ground it ourselves--major difference,
    even from Asian places. A little bit goes a loooooooooooooooong way.

    I can also buy whole, in the spiky husk, durian should I be so
    inclined.

    We can too, but choose not to.

    We had a pair of tornadoes hit us a few years ago and wipe ot the big
    Asian Foods restaurant supply place and the Mr. Battery next to it.
    Whole durians from the Asian place and car batteries from Mr. Battery
    were found up to 2 miles further east. Good thing no one was under
    either when they fell from the sky.

    Sunday I didn't set foot outside of the house. High temp for the
    day DD> was -1.F. Yesterday it got all the way to +5.F. Supposed to
    reach DD> the freezing point tomorrow (Wednesday).

    Right now (1:30 pm) it's 36 and rainy. Temps have been falling all day
    but we've got a brisket on the smoker.

    Yesterday (Wednesday) we got almost to the freezing point. And saw sun light finally which helped melting snow/ice left on the dark asphalt
    of the local highways and byways. Today is guesstimated to reach
    34.F. Then right back into the deep freeze.

    Our high temperature yesterday was 39, supposed to be a bit warmer
    today and then the bottom will fall out on Friday.

    Climatge is what you expect. Weather is what you get. The only benefit
    I can see in this cold snap is that many of the plants need to go
    through a hard freeze to trigger essential parts of their life cycle.

    We had a slightly warmer day yesterday, turned cold after dark. We'd
    gone down to Raleigh for a NC Symphony concert (Christmas gift from
    older daughter) and it was COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLD! when we
    got out about 10pm. Had supper at Outback before going to the concert.Right now it's just after 2pm and 29 degrees.

    What climate change? We're predicted to be 36ºF for a high. With snoe,
    sleet and freezing rain. I can almost hear the body shop owners lickiny
    their chops. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Outback Steakhouse Alice Springs Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Sauces, Pork, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM--------------------HONEY MUSTARD SAUCE-------------------------
    1/2 c Prepared mustard
    1/4 c Honey
    1/4 c Light corn syrup
    1/4 c Mayonnaise

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    4 (4 oz ea) boned, skinned
    - chicken breast halves
    1/2 ts McCormick Season All
    6 sl Bacon; fried crisp, cut in
    - half
    1 c Sliced mushrooms; drained
    - (canned or jarred)
    3 c Shredded Colby Jack Cheese
    2 ts Chopped parsley

    HONEY MUSTARD SAUCE: Blend ingredients for the honey
    mustard until smooth and free from lumps. The corn syrup
    may be adjusted depending on how sharp the mustard might
    be or to your taste.

    CHICKEN: Rub chicken breasts with Seasonal All and set
    aside to marinate for 1 hour.

    While the chicken is marinating, fry the bacon until
    crisp and drain it.

    Saute the chicken in a pan over medium heat with just
    enough oil to prevent sticking.

    Cook the chicken on both sides until slightly golden and
    cooked in the middle but not dry.

    Remove the chicken from the pan.

    Spread honey mustard on the chicken breasts.

    Top each chicken breast with a layer of mushrooms and
    three slices of bacon

    Sprinkle enough shredded Colby-Jack cheese on top to
    completely cover the chicken.

    Pop the chicken in a 350ºF/175ºC oven or in a microwave
    just until the cheese melts.

    Sprinkle with parsley and serve with honey mustard
    sauce.

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

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