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    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Mar 3 07:04:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    One time I had made some pestp using dandelion greens from the front
    yard and was having it with spaghetti noodles when a fried of Italian descent dropped by. I fixed him a plate and he exclaimed "This is like
    my old grandmother used to make!"

    Who knew ... I just made it up as I went along.

    And his grandmother had probably done the same. (G)

    And learned it from HER mother.

    8<----- EDIT ----->b

    I have a big red graniteware pot with a mesh basket to fit it for
    those purposes. I haven't a bowl big enough to use for more than one
    or two pieces of fruit - with the pour over boiling water method.

    I've got bowls ranging in size from 2 cups to 16 quarts in stainless
    steel or aluminum. The 16 qt one we bought fairly early on in our
    married life; it even travelled to Germany with us when we had to take
    a basic kitchen. I generally use a 5 or 7 qt bowl to hold peaches or tomatoes for skinning; they hold a good number of fruit.

    Don't got any metal dinnerware. Except some souffle' boats I bought
    off of eBay for use as chilli bowls. All my metal vessels are
    cookware. I do have a 3 qt (ish) heavy serving dish I got as a
    "premium" from Coca Cola rewards points. And a larger diameter, short walled bowl of about the
    same capacity - but that one would not allow for covering fruits with boiling water.

    We used to have a mix of pyrex and metal bowls, decided to go all metal when one more of the pyrex ones broke. Down side is that I can't use
    the metal ones in the microwave.

    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping on the
    floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce pans I aquired
    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a "hot
    pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much like cold
    glass and there are no insulated handles.

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't see why.
    If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice concentrate for the
    flavour and blow off the tequila altogether.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 oz Olive oil
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    3 Shallots; chopped
    1/2 lg Onion; minced
    1 Habanero chile; minced
    1 Whole tomato; peeled
    3 Bay leaves
    6 Epazote leaves
    3 Branches fresh thyme
    7 Mint leaves
    1 oz Orange liqueur (Curacao)
    1 oz Tequila
    8 oz Whipped cream
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    36 Jumbo (u-12) shrimp; shelled
    - de-veined

    Recipe courtesy of La Serenata de Garibaldi

    SERVING SUGGESTIONS: sliced roasted tomatoes and onions,
    Champagne vinegar dressing, various herbs and spices

    Heat a grill.

    Heat the olive oil in a medium saute pan over medium-low
    to medium heat. Add the garlic, shallots, and onion and
    saute for 2 minutes. Add the habanero chile and tomato
    and saute for 1 minute. Add the herbs and saute for an
    additional minute. Increase the heat to medium-high and
    bring the mixture to a boil. Once boiling, immediately
    add the orange liqueur and tequila. Stir, remove from
    the heat, and then add the whipped cream. Season, to
    taste, with salt and pepper.

    Grill the shrimp for a couple minutes on each side until
    just cooked through; be careful not to overcook. Place 5
    or 6 shrimp on each serving plate and top with the
    habanero sauce. Garnish with 1 thick slice each of
    roasted tomato and onion topped with Champagne vinegar
    dressing and the herbs and spices of your choice.

    "Best of Visions Cookware Skillet Recipes"

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Mar 3 15:09:22 2023
    Hi Dave,

    yard and was having it with spaghetti noodles when a fried of Italian descent dropped by. I fixed him a plate and he exclaimed "This is like
    my old grandmother used to make!"

    Who knew ... I just made it up as I went along.

    And his grandmother had probably done the same. (G)

    And learned it from HER mother.

    Most likely. I learned cooking basics from my mom; when I got married
    and started cooking for Steve, a lot of those basics were either
    eliminated or changed up. Mom was a basic cook because Dad was a basic
    eater. I ended up teaching her a number of cooking related tips, ideas, proceedures, etc.

    8<----- EDIT ----->b

    I have a big red graniteware pot with a mesh basket to fit it for
    those purposes. I haven't a bowl big enough to use for more than one
    or two pieces of fruit - with the pour over boiling water method.

    I've got bowls ranging in size from 2 cups to 16 quarts in stainless
    steel or aluminum. The 16 qt one we bought fairly early on in our
    married life; it even travelled to Germany with us when we had to take
    a basic kitchen. I generally use a 5 or 7 qt bowl to hold peaches or tomatoes for skinning; they hold a good number of fruit.

    Don't got any metal dinnerware. Except some souffle' boats I bought
    off of eBay for use as chilli bowls. All my metal vessels are
    cookware. I do have a 3 qt (ish) heavy serving dish I got as a
    "premium" from Coca Cola rewards points. And a larger diameter, short walled bowl of about the
    same capacity - but that one would not allow for covering fruits with boiling water.

    We used to have a mix of pyrex and metal bowls, decided to go all metal when one more of the pyrex ones broke. Down side is that I can't use
    the metal ones in the microwave.

    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping on the floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too hot or
    cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece. I've got 2 amber visions
    pots, one and one point five quarts. Used to have a set of the white
    range toppers to go with them but replaced them with Calphalon. Kept the visions because I could use them in the microwave.

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a
    "hot DD> pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much
    like DD> cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the right as
    the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable
    using it as the main "grab hand".

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't see
    why. DD> If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice concentrate for
    the DD> flavour and blow off the tequila altogether.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Mar 12 05:41:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping on the floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too hot or
    cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece. I've got 2 amber visions pots, one and one point five quarts. Used to have a set of the white
    range toppers to go with them but replaced them with Calphalon. Kept
    the visions because I could use them in the microwave.

    My Visions are saucepans w/handles that make them awkward in the tight
    confines of the nuker. I tend not to cook in the microwave anyway - just re-heat or thaw. Except for "baked" potatoes or popcorn. Bv)=

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a
    "hot DD> pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much
    like DD> cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I
    grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the
    right as the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable using it as the main "grab hand".

    I'm going to have to make an appointment with an orthopedis. I'm having
    trouble with the trapezium or capitate bone in my left wrist. As I am left-handed and it's my left wrist it is becoming a problem. Ah, well,
    the joys of living this long ...........

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't see
    why. If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice concentrate
    for the flavour and blow off the tequila altogether.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    One Habanero in that quantity of food would be zippy but not overwhelming.

    I made this for supper after finding a bag of corn niblets in the freezer
    that had been there for who knows how long. And having on hand some cans
    of generic/store brand cream of potato soup. I added in the can of Ortega
    diced jalapenos at the last minute and they tried to light up my life.

    The leftovers were much better the next day after the heat had been
    subsumed by the other ingredients. Next time I'll use the milder "Diced
    Green Chilies" (Anaheim/NuMex) from Old El Paso.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 servings

    32 oz Bag corn niblets
    21 1/2 oz (2 cans) cream of potato
    - soup; undiluted
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    1 Soup can milk
    Fresh ground pepper

    Open the soup and dump into your crockpot. Add the corn
    and milk and stir. Add the chilies and stir again.

    Set the cooker on low and let it do its thing for about
    four hours. Just before serving grind pepper (to taste)
    into the soup and give it another stir to combine.

    Ladle into bowls and dig in. Refrigerate leftovers (if
    any) and nuke back to life for supper the next day.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Mar 12 16:05:06 2023
    Hello Ruth,

    [..]

    We used to have a mix of pyrex and metal bowls, decided to go all metal
    when one more of the pyrex ones broke. Down side is that I can't use
    the metal ones in the microwave.

    The pyrex you had was not real PYREX. And pyrex explodes, whereas
    real PYREX does not. Which can be a deadly combination ...

    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping on the
    floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too hot or
    cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece.

    Vintage PYREX dishes are oven-safe (up to 425 F).
    Crappy pyrex dishes are not, very breakable, and can even explode.

    I've got 2 amber visions pots, one and one point five quarts.

    At least you got rid of the pyrex you thought was PYREX.
    Whether by accident or design. You did get rid of them, right?

    Used to have a set of the white range toppers to go with them but replaced them with Calphalon. Kept the visions because I could use them in the microwave.

    Those pyrex dishes can be too hot to handle in the microwave.
    And no sane person would ever dare use PYREX ...

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a
    "hot pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much
    like cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the right as the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable using it as the main "grab hand".

    No pot holder can save you from a pyrex dish exploding ...

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't see
    why. DD> If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice concentrate for
    the DD> flavour and blow off the tequila altogether.

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    Creole/Cajun cuisine is not a hot kind of hot, but more of a mild
    kind of hot. Spicy but not flaming hot.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Denis Mosko@1:153/757.1315 to All on Sun Mar 12 18:30:13 2023
    Hello All, we used to have a mix of pyrex in small and cookware for microwave.

    I have never broken any pyrex and have got a number of souce pans I aquired too.

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe 1/2 pieces by too hot or too cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece too.

    Crappy pyrex dishes are very breakable at hot=>winter's delivery inside pyrex.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Denis Mosko on Mon Mar 13 14:14:49 2023
    Hello Dennis,

    Hello All, we used to have a mix of pyrex in small and cookware for microwave.

    All mine exploded into thin air. No microwave needed.

    I have never broken any pyrex and have got a number of souce pans I aquired
    too.

    And to think those things are still being made and sold - to a
    gullible public that thinks they are the real things their parents
    and grandparents had ...

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe 1/2 pieces by too hot or too cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece too.

    Mine exploded into tiny pieces that could never be put together again.
    Not even by all the king's horses and all the king's men.

    Crappy pyrex dishes are very breakable at hot=>winter's delivery inside pyrex.

    If you think that's something, watch the exploding pyrex -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxTtnPGHSo


    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Denis Mosko@1:153/757.1315 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Mar 13 16:33:52 2023
    Txh a lot, Lee!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxTtnPGHSo
    Who is that man?



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Mar 13 15:12:31 2023
    Hi Dave,


    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping on the floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too hot or
    cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece. I've got 2 amber visions pots, one and one point five quarts. Used to have a set of the white
    range toppers to go with them but replaced them with Calphalon. Kept
    the visions because I could use them in the microwave.

    My Visions are saucepans w/handles that make them awkward in the tight confines of the nuker. I tend not to cook in the microwave anyway -
    just re-heat or thaw. Except for "baked" potatoes or popcorn. Bv)=

    When we had a microwave with a temperature probe and I was making bread
    full time, I'd put the liquids in a Visions pot, pull the battery
    operated turn table out of the microwave and pop in the pot, temp probe
    set for 125. I could then measure out the first part of the flour,
    yeast, salt, etc while the liquids were heating without having to stand
    over the stove waiting for the temp to rise. Very useful, miss that
    feature at times. I use my microwave a lot for reheating sides for
    meals, heating water for this & that and other tasks, as needed.


    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a
    "hot DD> pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much
    like DD> cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I
    grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the
    right as the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable using it as the main "grab hand".

    I'm going to have to make an appointment with an orthopedis. I'm
    having trouble with the trapezium or capitate bone in my left wrist.
    As I am
    left-handed and it's my left wrist it is becoming a problem. Ah, well,
    the joys of living this long ...........

    My finger is getting better tho I still can't quite close it into a full
    fist. I can use the sewing machine; picking up/putting in pins still
    isn't as smooth as before. I can stir a pot on the stove, switching off
    hands as they tire. All in all, better than it was, not quite as good as
    it was up until late August of last year.

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't see
    why. If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice concentrate
    for the flavour and blow off the tequila altogether.

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    One Habanero in that quantity of food would be zippy but not
    overwhelming.

    Still just a bit too much for me.


    I made this for supper after finding a bag of corn niblets in the
    freezer that had been there for who knows how long. And having on hand some cans of generic/store brand cream of potato soup. I added in the
    can of Ortega diced jalapenos at the last minute and they tried to
    light up my life.

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 servings

    Of course a no go around here because of Steve's allergy. I had to cook
    for our small group at church yesterday. Since it was almost 3/14, I
    made a chicken pot pie--filled a 13x9 pan almost to the brim. Only had a
    single man, a married one (wife was sick) with his teen age daughter and
    Steve & me for lunch but a good dent was put into the pie. Served it
    with Caesar salad, (commercial) apple pie a la mode for dessert. I'd
    mixed the flour and fat for a crust; Steve added the water, rolled it
    out and topped the pie. He cut pi symbols as slits. (G) We brought home
    less than half of the pot pie, no salad, a bit of ice cream and about
    half of the apple pie as well as raves over the pot pie, especially from
    the single guy.

    Basically what I did for the pot pie--cooked 2 chicken breasts in about
    2 quarts of home made stock. Pulled them out, chopped them up and put
    them in a bowl with about half a rotisserie chicken, pulled up. Nuked a
    16 oz bag of frozen peas & carrots with half a bag of green beans,
    drained & added to the bowl. Made about 2 1/2 quarts (used a bit over 2)
    of gravy from the stock, added it to the bowl and mixed. Poured it into
    a lightly greased (Pam) pan & let it set in th fridge overnight. Next
    day Steve made the crust, baked it at 350 for about 35-40 minutes. Corn
    would be a good idea for the veggie mix for those that can eat it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Mar 13 15:37:38 2023
    Hi Lee,

    We used to have a mix of pyrex and metal bowls, decided to go
    all metal RH>> when one more of the pyrex ones broke. Down side is
    that I can't use RH>> the metal ones in the microwave.

    The pyrex you had was not real PYREX. And pyrex explodes, whereas
    real PYREX does not. Which can be a deadly combination ...

    You misunderstood; I had PYREX bowls and I had metal ones. Pyrex ones
    broke (dropping, old age, etc).

    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping
    on the DD>> floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce
    pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too hot or
    cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece.

    Vintage PYREX dishes are oven-safe (up to 425 F).
    Crappy pyrex dishes are not, very breakable, and can even explode.

    I've got the real thing, have had breaks for various reasons but no
    explosions.


    I've got 2 amber visions pots, one and one point five quarts.

    At least you got rid of the pyrex you thought was PYREX.
    Whether by accident or design. You did get rid of them, right?

    I've always had the real thing, or Anchor Hocking version.

    Used to have a set of the white range toppers to go with them but
    replaced RH> them with Calphalon. Kept the visions because I could use
    them in the RH> microwave.

    Those pyrex dishes can be too hot to handle in the microwave.
    And no sane person would ever dare use PYREX ...

    Even the real thing can get rather warm in a microwave.

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use
    a LL> DD>> "hot pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks
    very LL> much DD>> like cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the right as the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable using it as the main "grab hand".

    No pot holder can save you from a pyrex dish exploding ...

    Most often they just craze, then crack from too hot or cold temps.

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't
    see RH> why. DD> If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice
    concentrate for RH> the DD> flavour and blow off the tequila
    altogether.

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    Creole/Cajun cuisine is not a hot kind of hot, but more of a mild
    kind of hot. Spicy but not flaming hot.

    I know; I've eaten (and enjoyed) that cuisine. Had shrimp & grits for
    supper the other night.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Mar 14 16:34:15 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Most likely. I learned cooking basics from my mom; when I got married
    and started cooking for Steve, a lot of those basics were either eliminated or changed up. Mom was a basic cook because Dad was a basic eater. I ended up teaching her a number of cooking related tips, ideas, proceedures, etc.

    I remember when I was 16, my mom started to teach me how to cook. She said, "No son of mine is going out into the world without knowing the basics."
    Not only did she teach me to cook, she taught me how to bake; read recipes
    and how to double/halve them; how to sew; knit (though I have forgotten); personal finance; and how to shop by looking at unit prices. All of those skills have served me very well in life and have allowed me to take care of myself with little assistance needed.

    Hanging out in this echo has taught me a lot also.

    Here's a recipe so simple it'd be impossible to screw up:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Busy Day Meatloaf
    Categories: Crs, Totest, Post, Chopmeat
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb Lean ground beef
    1 cn Tomato soup
    1 cn Cream of mushroom
    1 pk Onion soup mix

    Form meat into loaf and freeze. When ready to bake, place in a large
    piece of foil, pour soups over top, seal, and bake at 300F for 4
    hours.

    Taste of Home Ground Beef Collection 1996 Edition Shared by Carolyn
    Shaw 12-95

    MMMMM

    - Sean

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Mar 15 06:11:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My Visions are saucepans w/handles that make them awkward in the tight confines of the nuker. I tend not to cook in the microwave anyway -
    just re-heat or thaw. Except for "baked" potatoes or popcorn. Bv)=

    When we had a microwave with a temperature probe and I was making bread full time, I'd put the liquids in a Visions pot, pull the battery
    operated turn table out of the microwave and pop in the pot, temp probe

    My turntable is run by the mains current not a battery. It operates a
    six R.P.M. (one full turn every 10 seconds) so when I'm re-heating a
    cup of coffee I set the timer in 10 second increments to let the cup
    handle be pointing in the right direction for easy pick-up and removal.

    set for 125. I could then measure out the first part of the flour,
    yeast, salt, etc while the liquids were heating without having to stand over the stove waiting for the temp to rise. Very useful, miss that feature at times. I use my microwave a lot for reheating sides for
    meals, heating water for this & that and other tasks, as needed.

    I forgot - I *DO* cook/bake in my nuker. Steam-in-bag veggies and the occasional Banquet pot pie. I had one for lunch yesterday since it was
    Pi Day (also because it was fast and tasty). My microwave will "brown"
    pastry and microwave biscuits - altho I've not tried it on biscuits.

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a
    "hot DD> pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much
    like DD> cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I
    grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the
    right as the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable using it as the main "grab hand".

    I'm going to have to make an appointment with an orthopedis. I'm
    having trouble with the trapezium or capitate bone in my left wrist.
    As I am left-handed and it's my left wrist it is becoming a problem.
    Ah, well, the joys of living this long ...........

    My finger is getting better tho I still can't quite close it into a
    full fist. I can use the sewing machine; picking up/putting in pins
    still isn't as smooth as before. I can stir a pot on the stove,
    switching off hands as they tire. All in all, better than it was, not quite as good as it was up until late August of last year.

    We don't heal up nearly as quickly as when we were young.

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't see
    why. If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice concentrate
    for the flavour and blow off the tequila altogether.

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    One Habanero in that quantity of food would be zippy but not
    overwhelming.

    Still just a bit too much for me.

    Fair enuff. All recipes are/should be "to taste".

    I made this for supper after finding a bag of corn niblets in the
    freezer that had been there for who knows how long. And having on hand some cans of generic/store brand cream of potato soup. I added in the
    can of Ortega diced jalapenos at the last minute and they tried to
    light up my life.

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 servings

    Of course a no go around here because of Steve's allergy. I had to cook

    I forgot about Steve's allergy. I'm fortunate in that my only known food allergy is to bananas ... which I don't care for anyway.

    for our small group at church yesterday. Since it was almost 3/14, I
    made a chicken pot pie--filled a 13x9 pan almost to the brim. Only had
    a single man, a married one (wife was sick) with his teen age daughter
    and Steve & me for lunch but a good dent was put into the pie. Served
    it with Caesar salad, (commercial) apple pie a la mode for dessert. I'd mixed the flour and fat for a crust; Steve added the water, rolled it
    out and topped the pie. He cut pi symbols as slits. (G) We brought home less than half of the pot pie, no salad, a bit of ice cream and about
    half of the apple pie as well as raves over the pot pie, especially
    from the single guy.

    I like broccoli in my C.P.P . Green beans - not so much. Although I like
    then as a side dish w/nearly anything.

    Basically what I did for the pot pie--cooked 2 chicken breasts in about
    2 quarts of home made stock. Pulled them out, chopped them up and put
    them in a bowl with about half a rotisserie chicken, pulled up. Nuked a
    16 oz bag of frozen peas & carrots with half a bag of green beans,
    drained & added to the bowl. Made about 2 1/2 quarts (used a bit over
    2) of gravy from the stock, added it to the bowl and mixed. Poured it
    into a lightly greased (Pam) pan & let it set in th fridge overnight.
    Next day Steve made the crust, baked it at 350 for about 35-40 minutes. Corn would be a good idea for the veggie mix for those that can eat it.

    Here's one I make using puff pastry (the single guy's friend) and can
    be done in my microwave with its "browning" feature. The recipe, as was written, uses leftover turkey. But, I've used chicken to good effect.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Leftover Turkey Pot Pie
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Pastry, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Unsalted butter
    2 cl Garlic; smashed, minced
    1 sm Onion; peeled, diced
    2/3 c Chopped broccoli; thawed
    1/2 c Diced carrots; thawed
    1/2 c Peas; thawed
    1/3 c All-purpose flour
    1 c Chicken broth
    3/4 c Milk
    1 ts Fresh thyme leaves
    +=OR=+
    1/3 ts Dried thyme
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 c Chopped leftover turkey
    1 Puff pastry sheet; in four
    - 4 1/4" squares
    1 lg Egg; beaten

    Set oven @ 375-|F/190-|C.

    Lightly oil four 10 ounce ramekins or coat with nonstick
    spray.

    To make the filling, melt butter in a large skillet over
    medium high heat. Add garlic, onion, corn, carrots and
    peas and cook, stirring occasionally, until onions
    become translucent, about 2 minutes. Whisk in flour
    until lightly browned, about 1 minute. Gradually whisk
    in chicken broth, milk and thyme, and cook, whisking
    constantly, until slightly thickened, about 1-2 minutes.
    Stir in turkey; season with salt and pepper, to taste.

    Divide the filling evenly into the ramekins. Top with
    puff pastry and gently cut 4 vents in the top of the
    crust. Brush each crust with the beaten egg.

    Place into oven and bake until the crust is golden
    brown, about 20 minutes. Let cool 5 minutes before
    serving.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.yummly.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Mar 15 19:52:12 2023
    Hi Sean,

    Most likely. I learned cooking basics from my mom; when I got married
    and started cooking for Steve, a lot of those basics were either eliminated or changed up. Mom was a basic cook because Dad was a basic eater. I ended up teaching her a number of cooking related tips, ideas, proceedures, etc.

    I remember when I was 16, my mom started to teach me how to cook. She said, "No son of mine is going out into the world without knowing the basics." Not only did she teach me to cook, she taught me how to bake; read recipes and how to double/halve them; how to sew; knit (though I
    have forgotten); personal finance; and how to shop by looking at unit prices. All of those skills have served me very well in life and have allowed me to take care of myself with little assistance needed.

    Good for your mom! Steve's mom taught him how to get around in the
    kitchen too. He wasn't fond of the clean up when we first got married
    but when we lived in places with a dish washer, he was more willing to
    do the clean up. First place we had one was a rental unit in Copperas
    Cove, TX (near Fort Hood), then the post housing had one. Followed that
    by almost 6 years in Germany without one, then 6 months in MA (Fort
    Devens) and 3 months (temp housing) at Fort Huachuca (AZ) without. Since
    then, I've had a dish washer.

    I learned to cook when my mom took the job as school librarian the year
    I was in 8th grade. She had to get her MSLS so during the school year,
    she took classes an hour away one night a week. That wasn't too bad but
    over the summer she had to go 6 hours away so lived on campus for 6
    weeks. As oldest daughter, I had the most responsibility for keeping the
    house up--cooking, laundry, etc. Younger siblings helped some but I did
    most of it--without a microwave. (G) I learned how to cook, my siblings
    gave lots of critical reviews. Did that for 3 years, then got a summer
    job for one summer, next one took summer school myself. But, out of all
    my siblings, I was the only one who knew how to run a house, cook,
    clean, etc when I left home.

    Hanging out in this echo has taught me a lot also.

    I've learned probably the most about foods here. This was the place I
    first read about balsamic vinegar--bought a bottle out of curiosity and
    to see if Steve would like it. Now it's a pantry staple. Another thing I
    read about, didn't get to try until 15 years ago, is durian. It's not my favorite fruit but at least I can say I've tried it. (G)

    Here's a recipe so simple it'd be impossible to screw up:

    Title: Busy Day Meatloaf SD> Categories: Crs, Totest, Post,
    Chopmeat SD> Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb Lean ground beef
    1 cn Tomato soup
    1 cn Cream of mushroom
    1 pk Onion soup mix

    Very basic--so simple a child could do it. My meat loaf is a bit more
    complex than that but this gives me an idea or two for possible
    tweaking.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Mar 15 20:11:09 2023
    Hi Dave,

    confines of the nuker. I tend not to cook in the microwave anyway -
    just re-heat or thaw. Except for "baked" potatoes or popcorn. Bv)=

    When we had a microwave with a temperature probe and I was making bread full time, I'd put the liquids in a Visions pot, pull the battery
    operated turn table out of the microwave and pop in the pot, temp probe

    My turntable is run by the mains current not a battery. It operates a
    six R.P.M. (one full turn every 10 seconds) so when I'm re-heating a
    cup of coffee I set the timer in 10 second increments to let the cup handle be pointing in the right direction for easy pick-up and

    Our first microwave (bought in 1984) had no turntable so we bought a
    battery operated one. We called it "the rattlesnake" because the sound
    it made (after winding up every 15 minutes) sounded like the snake's
    rattle. Subsequent models have had built in turntables, and yes, it's
    nice to have the mug handle pointing in the right direction. (G)

    set for 125. I could then measure out the first part of the flour,
    yeast, salt, etc while the liquids were heating without having to stand over the stove waiting for the temp to rise. Very useful, miss that feature at times. I use my microwave a lot for reheating sides for
    meals, heating water for this & that and other tasks, as needed.

    I forgot - I *DO* cook/bake in my nuker. Steam-in-bag veggies and the occasional Banquet pot pie. I had one for lunch yesterday since it was
    Pi Day (also because it was fast and tasty). My microwave will "brown" pastry and microwave biscuits - altho I've not tried it on biscuits.

    I do soups and suchlike in mine--faster and easier clean up than stove
    top.

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use a
    "hot DD> pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks very much
    like DD> cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I
    grab anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the
    right as the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be comfortable using it as the main "grab hand".

    I'm going to have to make an appointment with an orthopedis. I'm
    having trouble with the trapezium or capitate bone in my left wrist.
    As I am left-handed and it's my left wrist it is becoming a problem.
    Ah, well, the joys of living this long ...........

    My finger is getting better tho I still can't quite close it into a
    full fist. I can use the sewing machine; picking up/putting in pins
    still isn't as smooth as before. I can stir a pot on the stove,
    switching off hands as they tire. All in all, better than it was, not quite as good as it was up until late August of last year.

    We don't heal up nearly as quickly as when we were young.

    No, but at least we're still around and able to heal.

    One Habanero in that quantity of food would be zippy but not
    overwhelming.

    Still just a bit too much for me.

    Fair enuff. All recipes are/should be "to taste".

    And some like it hotter than others. My heat tolerance has decreased
    since we left HI tho.

    I made this for supper after finding a bag of corn niblets in the
    freezer that had been there for who knows how long. And having on hand

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder

    Of course a no go around here because of Steve's allergy. I had to cook

    I forgot about Steve's allergy. I'm fortunate in that my only known
    food allergy is to bananas ... which I don't care for anyway.

    I don't have any food ones that I know of, do for some meds and latex.

    for our small group at church yesterday. Since it was almost 3/14, I
    made a chicken pot pie--filled a 13x9 pan almost to the brim. Only had

    I like broccoli in my C.P.P . Green beans - not so much. Although I
    like then as a side dish w/nearly anything.

    I used what I had on hand for veggies, thought about potatoes and onions
    but wanted to keep it basic. It had enough "fill" without them anyway.

    Here's one I make using puff pastry (the single guy's friend) and can
    be done in my microwave with its "browning" feature. The recipe, as
    was written, uses leftover turkey. But, I've used chicken to good
    effect.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    I looked at it--looks good but one I'd probably do only if I had nothing
    else planned for the better part of the day. As it was, I was in the
    kitchen for a couple of hours--would have been longer if I'd had to roll
    out the crust and bake it. It reheated well; we put portions on plates
    and reheated them last night. We've still got enough for another meal.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Mar 16 20:53:28 2023
    Hello Ruth,

    We used to have a mix of pyrex and metal bowls, decided to go
    all metal RH>> when one more of the pyrex ones broke. Down side is
    that I can't use RH>> the metal ones in the microwave.

    The pyrex you had was not real PYREX. And pyrex explodes, whereas
    real PYREX does not. Which can be a deadly combination ...

    You misunderstood; I had PYREX bowls and I had metal ones. Pyrex ones broke (dropping, old age, etc).

    Tempered glass of any kind will break when dropped from a great
    enough height. But exploding glass is something else entirely -

    https://tinyurl.com/bpnx5ct2


    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and dropping
    on the DD>> floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce
    pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too hot or
    cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece.

    The cheapie pyrex ia aafe for baking, up to 425 degrees F.
    Vintage PYREX can go higher, up to just under 500 degrees F.

    Vintage PYREX dishes are oven-safe (up to 425 F).
    Crappy pyrex dishes are not, very breakable, and can even explode.

    I've got the real thing, have had breaks for various reasons but no explosions.

    Glass does tend to break if dropped. Even tempered glass.
    I dropped a shot glass from waist level onto a hard floor.
    It shattered into a million pieces. Fortunately for me,
    the glass had already been emptied before I dropped it,
    leaving the bartender to clean up the mess.

    I've got 2 amber visions pots, one and one point five quarts.

    At least you got rid of the pyrex you thought was PYREX.
    Whether by accident or design. You did get rid of them, right?

    I've always had the real thing, or Anchor Hocking version.

    Anchor Hocking uses tempered soda-lime silicate, the same as
    cheapie pyrex. It quit making the good stuff about the same time
    as PYREX. It will explode, and is not nearly as stable for baking.
    Or for anything else.

    Used to have a set of the white range toppers to go with them but
    replaced RH> them with Calphalon. Kept the visions because I could use them in the RH> microwave.

    NEVER PUT NEWER PYREX OR ANCHOR HOCKING ITEMS FOR MICROWAVE USE.

    Microwave safe ceramic is best, and far safer. Even vintage PYREX
    items can be damaged, as such items were never intended for microwave
    use.

    Thos
    e pyrex dishes can be too hot to handle in the microwave.
    And no sane person would ever dare use PYREX ...

    Even the real thing can get rather warm in a microwave.

    It did not take me long to figure that out. Only a split second.
    A lesson I never forgot.

    from a friend's estate sale. I always have to remember to use
    a LL> DD>> "hot pot" when cooking with them because hot glass looks
    very LL> much DD>> like cold glass and there are no insulated handles.

    My current cookware is stainless steel with glass lids; I make sure I
    grab a pot holder to protect my hands with them also. Making sure I
    grab
    anything heavy with the left hand, give extra support with the right
    as
    the latter isn't quite strong enough (still rehabbing) to be
    comfortable
    using it as the main "grab hand".

    No pot holder can save you from a pyrex dish exploding ...

    Most often they just craze, then crack from too hot or cold temps.

    Your anchor hocking items are no different than pyrex items, as both
    are made from the same type of glass. Why those companies ditched what
    they had in favor of substandard glass can only be due to economic
    reasons. Increase profits by producing products at less cost.

    This recipe calls for orange liqueur and tequila. TBH I don't
    see RH> why. DD> If I ever make it I'll likely sub orange juice
    concentrate for RH> the DD> flavour and blow off the tequila
    altogether.

    Title: Giant Shrimp in Habanero Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side) pepper for
    me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    Creole/Cajun cuisine is not a hot kind of hot, but more of a mild
    kind of hot. Spicy but not flaming hot.

    I know; I've eaten (and enjoyed) that cuisine. Had shrimp & grits for supper the other night.

    The older recipes are much better than the newer versions. But then,
    being from Louisiana, I have been spoiled for decades enjoying the best
    food in the world. Especially now that it is crawfish season. Pinch
    da tails and suck da heads ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Mar 17 05:03:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My turntable is run by the mains current not a battery. It operates a
    six R.P.M. (one full turn every 10 seconds) so when I'm re-heating a
    cup of coffee I set the timer in 10 second increments to let the cup handle be pointing in the right direction for easy pick-up and

    Our first microwave (bought in 1984) had no turntable so we bought a battery operated one. We called it "the rattlesnake" because the sound
    it made (after winding up every 15 minutes) sounded like the snake's rattle. Subsequent models have had built in turntables, and yes, it's
    nice to have the mug handle pointing in the right direction. (G)

    My first microwave had no turn table either. It was a Raytheon that I
    picked up at the bankruptcy auction of a local hotel. It was tall and
    narrow rather than the short and wide models being sold today. My brother
    left a spoon in the cup of coffee he was reheating and it shot sparks
    clear across the kitchen. Neither of us ever made that mistake again.

    8<----- CUT ----->B

    Here's one I make using puff pastry (the single guy's friend) and can
    be done in my microwave with its "browning" feature. The recipe, as
    was written, uses leftover turkey. But, I've used chicken to good
    effect.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    I looked at it--looks good but one I'd probably do only if I had
    nothing else planned for the better part of the day. As it was, I was
    in the kitchen for a couple of hours--would have been longer if I'd had
    to roll out the crust and bake it. It reheated well; we put portions on plates and reheated them last night. We've still got enough for another meal.

    That recipe doesn't take long at all using rotissiere or canned chicken
    and pre-made pastry, frozen (or leftover) veg, etc.

    If I want to be more eabourate I may try this one I saved from one of
    Taste of Home's Top Ten listings. It calls for store-bought pie crusts.
    I am perfectly capable of making me own.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Favorite Chicken Potpie
    Categories: Poultry, Pastry, Vegetables, Potatoes, Herbs
    Yield: 16 servings

    2 c Diced, peeled, potatoes
    1 3/4 c Sliced carrots
    1 c Butter, cubed
    2/3 c Chopped onion
    1 c A-P flour
    1 3/4 ts Salt
    1 ts Dried thyme
    3/4 ts Pepper
    3 c Chicken broth
    1 1/2 c Whole milk
    4 c Diced, cooked, chicken
    1 c Frozen peas
    1 c Frozen corn
    4 Sheets refrigerated pie
    - crust

    Set oven @ 425ºF/218ºC.

    Place potatoes and carrots in a large saucepan; add
    water to cover. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat; cook,
    covered, 8-10 minutes or until crisp-tender; drain.

    In a large skillet, heat butter over medium-high heat.
    Add onion; cook and stir until tender. Stir in flour and
    seasonings until blended. Gradually stir in broth and
    milk. Bring to a boil, stirring constantly; cook and
    stir 2 minutes or until thickened. Stir in chicken,
    peas, corn and potato-carrot mixture; remove from heat.

    Unroll a pie crust into each of two 9-in. pie plates;
    trim crusts even with rims of plates. Add chicken
    mixture. Unroll remaining crusts; place over filling.
    Trim, seal and flute edges. Cut slits in tops.

    Bake 35-40 minutes or until crust is lightly browned.
    Let stand 15 minutes before cutting.

    Karen Johnson, Bakersfield, California

    Makes: 2 potpies (8 servings each)

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Denis Mosko@1:153/757.1315 to All on Fri Mar 17 14:46:56 2023
    And my turntable is run by the mains current not a battery. It operates a six R.P.M. (one full turn every 10 seconds) so when I am re-heating a cup of milk I set the timer in 10 second increments to let the cup handle be pointing in the right direction for easy pick-up.

    Too my microwave (bought in 1999) had turntable. I called it "The" because The sound it made (after GSM-up every 15 minutes) sounded like the. Subsequent models have had built in battery, and it is nice to have the mug handle pointing in the right direction.

    My too my microwave had no table either. It was a The that I picked up at the bankruptcy auction of a NASA. It was tall and narrow rather than the short and wide models being sold today. My rocket left a spoon in the cup of milk she was reheating and it shot sparks clear across the space. Neither of us ever made that mistake again at Baikonor.

    ... A cheapskate would not tip a server. I am just careful with money
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Mar 17 20:34:54 2023
    Hi Lee,

    The pyrex you had was not real PYREX. And pyrex explodes,
    whereas LL>> real PYREX does not. Which can be a deadly combination
    ...

    You misunderstood; I had PYREX bowls and I had metal ones. Pyrex ones broke (dropping, old age, etc).

    Tempered glass of any kind will break when dropped from a great
    enough height. But exploding glass is something else entirely -



    I've never broken (except by bring butter-fingered and
    dropping LL>> on the DD>> floor) any Pyrex. I've got a set of amber visions sauce LL>> pans I aquired

    Basically how our pyrex broke, maybe one or two pieces by too
    hot or RH>> cold a temperature on an old, weakened piece.

    The cheapie pyrex ia aafe for baking, up to 425 degrees F.
    Vintage PYREX can go higher, up to just under 500 degrees F.

    I think mine are a combination of newer and vintage. I've picked them up
    at various and sundry times/places over the years. Bought some new, got
    some at yard sales.

    Glass does tend to break if dropped. Even tempered glass.
    I dropped a shot glass from waist level onto a hard floor.
    It shattered into a million pieces. Fortunately for me,
    the glass had already been emptied before I dropped it,
    leaving the bartender to clean up the mess.

    Steve had a corelle plate break on him the other day--just set a biscuit
    on it, turned around and heard a crack. Turned back and saw the plate
    had broken in a somewhat uneven (not straight) line, all the way across.

    I've always had the real thing, or Anchor Hocking version.

    Anchor Hocking uses tempered soda-lime silicate, the same as
    cheapie pyrex. It quit making the good stuff about the same time
    as PYREX. It will explode, and is not nearly as stable for baking.
    Or for anything else.

    It works well for me, have had a few chips here & there over the years
    and moves, but nothing major. Learned that putting it into the
    dishwasher wears the markings off over time so now it gets hand washed.

    Used to have a set of the white range toppers to go with them
    but RH> replaced RH> them with Calphalon. Kept the visions because
    I could use RH> them in the RH> microwave.

    NEVER PUT NEWER PYREX OR ANCHOR HOCKING ITEMS FOR MICROWAVE USE.

    Mine has suvived microwaving quite often over the years.

    e pyrex dishes can be too hot to handle in the microwave.

    Even the real thing can get rather warm in a microwave.

    It did not take me long to figure that out. Only a split second.
    A lesson I never forgot.

    There's a tag line to that effect.

    No pot holder can save you from a pyrex dish exploding ...

    Most often they just craze, then crack from too hot or cold temps.

    Your anchor hocking items are no different than pyrex items, as both
    are made from the same type of glass. Why those companies ditched what they had in favor of substandard glass can only be due to economic reasons. Increase profits by producing products at less cost.

    I'd probably go with a milder (but still on the warm side)
    pepper for RH>> me, habeneros are too hot for me.

    Creole/Cajun cuisine is not a hot kind of hot, but more of a
    mild LL>> kind of hot. Spicy but not flaming hot.

    I know; I've eaten (and enjoyed) that cuisine. Had shrimp & grits for supper the other night.

    The older recipes are much better than the newer versions. But then,

    First time I encountered shrimp and grits was in Savannah, about 2007.
    Lived on the coast of NC in the mid to late 70s and early 80s, nobody
    served it then. Seafood was either fried or broiled; the fried was
    either a heavy crumb coating or, in parts of NC (Calabash), lightly
    floured. The latter style has spread to other areas of the state; the
    state seafood restaurant in Raleigh serves it Calabash style. If I have
    fried seafood, I prefer it to be Calabash style.

    being from Louisiana, I have been spoiled for decades enjoying the
    best food in the world. Especially now that it is crawfish season.
    Pinch
    da tails and suck da heads ...

    I always enjoyed it whenever I had the chance to get it while growing
    up. Got married & moved to coastal NC where I had it a lot. I've also
    lived in coastal (Monterey) CA, HI, and coastal (Savannah) GA, each with
    their own varients on seafood preparation and have enjoyed it in each of
    those regions.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Mar 17 20:58:29 2023
    Hi Dave,

    cup of coffee I set the timer in 10 second increments to let the cup handle be pointing in the right direction for easy pick-up and

    Our first microwave (bought in 1984) had no turntable so we bought a battery operated one. We called it "the rattlesnake" because the sound
    it made (after winding up every 15 minutes) sounded like the snake's rattle. Subsequent models have had built in turntables, and yes, it's
    nice to have the mug handle pointing in the right direction. (G)

    My first microwave had no turn table either. It was a Raytheon that I

    Ours was a Kenmore, bought in San Angelo, TX where we were for one of
    Steve's post basic training schools. Used it for 2.5 years, got told we couldn't take it to Germany so put it in storage. Got to Germany and
    found we could have brought it so replaced it. When we got back
    Stateside 6 years later, we gave my sister the original microwave as we
    had a newer, better model.


    picked up at the bankruptcy auction of a local hotel. It was tall and narrow rather than the short and wide models being sold today. My

    Beat having no microwace, no matter what shape, tho your choice of
    cookware was more limited.

    brother left a spoon in the cup of coffee he was reheating and it shot sparks
    clear across the kitchen. Neither of us ever made that mistake again.

    OOPS! BTW, when we bought the original microwave, we bought some Anchor
    Hocking hard plastic cookware for it. We're still using one of the
    original 4 pieces, a small square container with a lid. Very handy for reaheating a wide variety of things.

    8<----- CUT ----->B

    Here's one I make using puff pastry (the single guy's friend) and can
    be done in my microwave with its "browning" feature. The recipe, as
    was written, uses leftover turkey. But, I've used chicken to good
    effect.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    I looked at it--looks good but one I'd probably do only if I had
    nothing else planned for the better part of the day. As it was, I was
    in the kitchen for a couple of hours--would have been longer if I'd had
    to roll out the crust and bake it. It reheated well; we put portions on plates and reheated them last night. We've still got enough for another meal.

    That recipe doesn't take long at all using rotissiere or canned
    chicken and pre-made pastry, frozen (or leftover) veg, etc.

    I prefer home made pastry. As for the chicken, I did have to cook the
    breasts, only because we'd eaten about half of the rotisserie chicken.
    Had no left over fresh veggies so I briefly nuked the last of what
    frozen ones I had so probably the longest "work" part of making that pot
    pie was doing the gravy. Just took a while to get it all pulled together
    but the taste was worth it.

    If I want to be more eabourate I may try this one I saved from one of Taste of Home's Top Ten listings. It calls for store-bought pie
    crusts. I am perfectly capable of making me own.


    Title: Favorite Chicken Potpie
    Categories: Poultry, Pastry, Vegetables, Potatoes, Herbs
    Yield: 16 servings

    2 c Diced, peeled, potatoes
    1 3/4 c Sliced carrots
    1 c Butter, cubed
    2/3 c Chopped onion

    I debated using potatoes and onions but had enough "fill" with the
    veggies I had on hand, with a generous amount of chicken and enough
    gravy to hold it all together.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Mar 19 06:36:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My first microwave had no turn table either. It was a Raytheon that I

    Ours was a Kenmore, bought in San Angelo, TX where we were for one of Steve's post basic training schools. Used it for 2.5 years, got told we couldn't take it to Germany so put it in storage. Got to Germany and
    found we could have brought it so replaced it. When we got back
    Stateside 6 years later, we gave my sister the original microwave as we had a newer, better model.

    There have always been step-down transformers to bring the European
    standard 220 volt current down the the North American 110 volts. But
    AFAIK none of them do anything about the 50HZ vs 60HZ difference. And
    some of the early nukers had rather unsophisticated electronics - so
    one had to adjust the cooking times. Newer models are not frequency
    dependent.

    picked up at the bankruptcy auction of a local hotel. It was tall and narrow rather than the short and wide models being sold today. My

    Beat having no microwace, no matter what shape, tho your choice of cookware was more limited.

    It would fit a saucer/salad plate but not a dinner plate. Cereal bowls
    or paper plates were the norm.

    brother left a spoon in the cup of coffee he was reheating and it shot sparks clear across the kitchen. Neither of us ever made that mistake again.

    OOPS! BTW, when we bought the original microwave, we bought some Anchor Hocking hard plastic cookware for it. We're still using one of the original 4 pieces, a small square container with a lid. Very handy for reaheating a wide variety of things.

    If I'm re-heating I tend to use whatever red-neck Tupperware I used to
    store the leftovers. And go in 1 minute increments so as not to melt
    the thin plastic container. And *always* with some manner of cover so
    as to contain any splatters.

    8<----- CUT ----->B

    That recipe doesn't take long at all using rotissiere or canned
    chicken and pre-made pastry, frozen (or leftover) veg, etc.

    I prefer home made pastry. As for the chicken, I did have to cook the breasts, only because we'd eaten about half of the rotisserie chicken.
    Had no left over fresh veggies so I briefly nuked the last of what
    frozen ones I had so probably the longest "work" part of making that
    pot pie was doing the gravy. Just took a while to get it all pulled together but the taste was worth it.

    I quite like puff pastry - but, like pasta I prefer the store-bought over
    the home-made. I can (and have) made my own pasta and puff pastry but I'm eighty and prefer to spend my remaining time on more fun things.

    If I want to be more eabourate I may try this one I saved from one of Taste of Home's Top Ten listings. It calls for store-bought pie
    crusts. I am perfectly capable of making me own.

    Title: Favorite Chicken Potpie
    Categories: Poultry, Pastry, Vegetables, Potatoes, Herbs
    Yield: 16 servings

    2 c Diced, peeled, potatoes
    1 3/4 c Sliced carrots
    1 c Butter, cubed
    2/3 c Chopped onion

    I debated using potatoes and onions but had enough "fill" with the
    veggies I had on hand, with a generous amount of chicken and enough
    gravy to hold it all together.

    I know the words to that song, too.

    Lasy night's supper was a 1# chub of Dos Rios pre-cooked taco meat and
    a 15 oz can of Old El Paso refried beans in the little crockpot. A four
    ounce can of chooped green chilies stirred in once things heated uo. At
    suooer time some pre-made flour tortillas, shredded cheese and a shake
    or two of Cholula - et voila' - supper. No muss, no fuss, minimal clean
    up. Heck the dogs pre-washed the crockpot for me. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Working Person's Crockpot Country Pork Dinner *
    Categories: Pork, Potatoes, Vegetables, Crockpot
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 lb Pork loin country-style ribs
    - in serving pieces
    1/3 c Flour
    2 tb Oil
    1 1/2 c Apple cider
    1 c Water
    1 tb Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    2 lb Small red potatoes
    16 oz Carrots; in 2" pieces
    1 lg Onion; coarse chopped
    1 sm Cabbage; shredded
    1 ts Caraway seeds

    * Politically correct title. Original was "Working
    Man's Crockpot Country Pork Dinner)

    All preparation can be done the night before and assembled
    in the morning before leaving for work so you'll be
    greeted with a hearty supper at the end of the day.

    In a large plastic bag combine flour, salt and pepper.
    Drop meat into bag and coat pork loin country-style ribs
    with flour mixture; reserve leftover flour. In large
    skillet over med-high heat, in hot salad oil, cook meat, a
    few pieces at a time, until well browned on all sides,
    removing pieces as they brown.

    NOTE: I have made this without "browning" the meat. There
    is no noticable difference in taste and only a minor
    change in texture. - UDD

    Reduce heat to med; into drippings in skillet, stir
    reserved flour until blended. Gradually stir in apple
    cider. Simmer to thicken to gravy. Remove from heat and
    set aside.

    In 6 qt crockpot * add potatoes, carrots, onions and
    cabbage. Sprinkle with caraway seeds. Top with meat. Pour
    on gravy. Cover crockpot and cook on high for 6 hours or
    low for 8-10 hours.

    * Or Crockpot Casserole - UDD

    Recipe by: Vickie Ritz | 25 August 1998

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Mar 19 21:10:33 2023
    Hi Dave,


    My first microwave had no turn table either. It was a Raytheon that I

    Ours was a Kenmore, bought in San Angelo, TX where we were for one of Steve's post basic training schools. Used it for 2.5 years, got told we couldn't take it to Germany so put it in storage. Got to Germany and
    found we could have brought it so replaced it. When we got back
    Stateside 6 years later, we gave my sister the original microwave as we had a newer, better model.

    There have always been step-down transformers to bring the European standard 220 volt current down the the North American 110 volts. But
    AFAIK none of them do anything about the 50HZ vs 60HZ difference. And
    some of the early nukers had rather unsophisticated electronics - so
    one had to adjust the cooking times. Newer models are not frequency dependent.

    We bought a small microwave when we first got to Germany and ran it off
    a transformer. It did ok, but when we moved to Berlin, we got housing
    that had a couple of 110 circuits wired in. Replaced that microwave with
    a better one, one that could run on 50 or 60 cycles. Used that until the
    week before our daughter Rachel got married, so about 8 years and 2
    military moves.

    picked up at the bankruptcy auction of a local hotel. It was tall and narrow rather than the short and wide models being sold today. My

    Beat having no microwace, no matter what shape, tho your choice of cookware was more limited.

    It would fit a saucer/salad plate but not a dinner plate. Cereal bowls
    or paper plates were the norm.

    Still, you had a microwave. I'd be hard pressed to have a kitchen
    without one now, tho I could manage.

    brother left a spoon in the cup of coffee he was reheating and it
    shot DD> sparks clear across the kitchen. Neither of us ever made that
    mistake DD> again.

    OOPS! BTW, when we bought the original microwave, we bought some Anchor Hocking hard plastic cookware for it. We're still using one of the original 4 pieces, a small square container with a lid. Very handy for reaheating a wide variety of things.

    If I'm re-heating I tend to use whatever red-neck Tupperware I used to store the leftovers. And go in 1 minute increments so as not to melt
    the thin plastic container. And *always* with some manner of cover so
    as to contain any splatters.

    We have some plastics that don't go into the microwave, just on G.P.
    Other containers, no problem--and yes, we cover everything too, but
    still get occaisional "explosions".

    frozen ones I had so probably the longest "work" part of making that
    pot pie was doing the gravy. Just took a while to get it all pulled together but the taste was worth it.

    I quite like puff pastry - but, like pasta I prefer the store-bought
    over the home-made. I can (and have) made my own pasta and puff pastry
    but I'm eighty and prefer to spend my remaining time on more fun
    things.

    I've made pasta a few times, more work than worth for the most part.
    Never used puff pastry tho have eaten it.

    If I want to be more eabourate I may try this one I saved from one of Taste of Home's Top Ten listings. It calls for store-bought pie
    crusts. I am perfectly capable of making me own.

    Store bought crusts don't come in whole wheat; our flour of choice.

    I debated using potatoes and onions but had enough "fill" with the
    veggies I had on hand, with a generous amount of chicken and enough
    gravy to hold it all together.

    I know the words to that song, too.

    Lasy night's supper was a 1# chub of Dos Rios pre-cooked taco meat and
    a 15 oz can of Old El Paso refried beans in the little crockpot. A
    four ounce can of chooped green chilies stirred in once things heated
    uo. At suooer time some pre-made flour tortillas, shredded cheese and
    a shake
    or two of Cholula - et voila' - supper. No muss, no fuss, minimal

    Sounds good. We went to a local Mexican place for lunch today. Steve had chicken in a chipotle cream sauce; I had a chicken breast with chorizo
    topping. Both came with rice & beans, flour tortillas and mine had a
    small salad also. As usual, from that place, very good.


    clean up. Heck the dogs pre-washed the crockpot for me. Bv)=

    Clean as 3 Rivers can get them? C'mere 3 Rivers. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Mar 21 06:31:00 2023
    OOPS! BTW, when we bought the original microwave, we bought some Anchor Hocking hard plastic cookware for it. We're still using one of the original 4 pieces, a small square container with a lid. Very handy for reaheating a wide variety of things.

    If I'm re-heating I tend to use whatever red-neck Tupperware I used to store the leftovers. And go in 1 minute increments so as not to melt
    the thin plastic container. And *always* with some manner of cover so
    as to contain any splatters.

    Just remembered something I *do* cook in my microwave. Mostly because I
    did three pounds of it yesterday. Bacon. I got, as a gift, a round
    platter, ridged on one side and smooth on the other. I use the ridged
    side to nuke bacon rashers for five minutes - covered w/old newspaper.
    AT LAST - a use for the local bird-cage liner since I don't have a bird.

    The ridged side of the platter even has a notch w/lip for decanting the
    bacon drippings into a suitable container for future reference.

    I've never used the smooth dise for its stated purpose - reheating cold
    pizza. Huh? Leftover pizza? What's that??? Bv)=

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    Lasy night's supper was a 1# chub of Dos Rios pre-cooked taco meat and
    a 15 oz can of Old El Paso refried beans in the little crockpot. A
    four ounce can of chooped green chilies stirred in once things heated
    uo. At suooer time some pre-made flour tortillas, shredded cheese and
    a shake or two of Cholula - et voila' - supper. No muss, no fuss,
    minimal

    Sounds good. We went to a local Mexican place for lunch today. Steve
    had chicken in a chipotle cream sauce; I had a chicken breast with
    chorizo topping. Both came with rice & beans, flour tortillas and mine
    had a small salad also. As usual, from that place, very good.

    clean up. Heck the dogs pre-washed the crockpot for me. Bv)=

    I usually always get my lunch order w/rice & beans. Which I then stir
    together and pour a healthy dollop of the "salsa" that nearly all of
    our local Mexican venues present w/tortilla chops as an "appetiser".

    Then I eat it be scooping up with those chips.

    I've noticed that darned few of the Latino places in this area have any offerings with pork or fish. Just beef and chicken. The ones which *do*
    offer pork or fish dishes are the ones I tend to give repeat bsuiness.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tacos de Carnitas
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies, Citrus
    Yield: 7 Servings

    3 lb Pork shoulder
    7 Strips orange zest
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    +=PLUS=+
    Fine chopped onion; garnish
    1 1/4 ts Crushed red pepper flakes
    1 (1") Mexican canela cinnamon
    - stick
    2 Bay leaves
    1 1/2 ts Crushed, dried oregano
    - leaves
    1 1/2 ts Kosher salt; more to taste
    1/4 ts Ground cloves
    24 sm Corn tortilla shells; for
    - serving, warmed
    Chopped cilantro; garnish
    Salsa; garnish

    Trim any thick fat from surface of pork. Cut meat in 1"
    cubes, discarding any that are pure fat. Put pork in a
    large pot. Add enough water to cover by 2 inches, orange
    zest, garlic, chopped onion, red pepper flakes,
    cinnamon, bay leaves, oregano, 1 1/2 teaspoons salt and
    the cloves.

    Bring to a boil, then reduce to a simmer. Skim off any
    scum that forms on surface. Simmer uncovered for 1 1/2
    hours, until pork is very soft; add water if necessary
    to keep meat submerged. Season with salt, then continue
    to cook until water has evaporated, about 30 minutes.
    Cook a little longer to fry meat slightly; cook even
    longer if you prefer crisper meat. Stir often and add a
    bit of water if meat sticks or seems about to burn.

    Remove bay leaves and cinnamon stick. Spoon a few
    tablespoons of carnitas onto each tortilla. Top each
    taco with cilantro, finely chopped onion and salsa.

    Serve.

    UDD NOTE: I highly recommend that you bring the pork to
    a boil, reduce to a simmer and skim the scum BEFORE
    adding the other ingredients. Otherwise all of the
    ingredients that float will mix with the scum and be
    skimmed out along with the scum and the dish will be
    largely under-seasoned.

    By Kim Severson

    YIELD: 6 to 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Mar 21 13:47:01 2023
    Hi Dave,

    If I'm re-heating I tend to use whatever red-neck Tupperware I used to store the leftovers. And go in 1 minute increments so as not to melt
    the thin plastic container. And *always* with some manner of cover so
    as to contain any splatters.

    Just remembered something I *do* cook in my microwave. Mostly because
    I did three pounds of it yesterday. Bacon. I got, as a gift, a round platter, ridged on one side and smooth on the other. I use the ridged
    side to nuke bacon rashers for five minutes - covered w/old newspaper.
    AT LAST - a use for the local bird-cage liner since I don't have a
    bird.

    One of the pieces we bought was a rectangular tray, with a ridged,
    sloped interior. The slope ended in a shallow well at one of the narrow ends--meant for cooking bacon and the well was to catch the grease. I
    used it for a while; after Steve went on his anti pig spell, bacon was
    not usually in the house. I passed that dish on, maybe to one of our
    daghters? Now we cook bacon 3 different ways--frying pan for small
    amounts when we want to save the grease, oven for large amounts & saving
    the grease or on a paper towel covered plate in the microwave for small
    amounts when we don't want to save the grease.

    The ridged side of the platter even has a notch w/lip for decanting
    the bacon drippings into a suitable container for future reference.

    I've never used the smooth dise for its stated purpose - reheating
    cold pizza. Huh? Leftover pizza? What's that??? Bv)=

    Something we have a bit more of these days, now that I'm cooking for 2
    and our appetites aren't as big as they once were.

    four ounce can of chooped green chilies stirred in once things heated
    uo. At suooer time some pre-made flour tortillas, shredded cheese and
    a shake or two of Cholula - et voila' - supper. No muss, no fuss,
    minimal

    Sounds good. We went to a local Mexican place for lunch today. Steve
    had chicken in a chipotle cream sauce; I had a chicken breast with
    chorizo topping. Both came with rice & beans, flour tortillas and mine
    had a small salad also. As usual, from that place, very good.

    clean up. Heck the dogs pre-washed the crockpot for me. Bv)=

    I usually always get my lunch order w/rice & beans. Which I then stir together and pour a healthy dollop of the "salsa" that nearly all of
    our local Mexican venues present w/tortilla chops as an "appetiser".

    Then I eat it be scooping up with those chips.

    We decline the chips because they're corn and............


    I've noticed that darned few of the Latino places in this area have
    any offerings with pork or fish. Just beef and chicken. The ones which *do* offer pork or fish dishes are the ones I tend to give repeat bsuiness.

    Place we went to had several shrimp and pork choices.

    BTW, we found Ale 8 One in KY; I try to get a 6 pack of the diet version
    (Ale 8 Zero) when we're going thru the state. Either they've reduced the caffiene or I don't notice it but I've not been aware of any great
    amounts.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Mar 23 04:58:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If I'm re-heating I tend to use whatever red-neck Tupperware I used to store the leftovers. And go in 1 minute increments so as not to melt
    the thin plastic container. And *always* with some manner of cover so
    as to contain any splatters.

    Just remembered something I *do* cook in my microwave. Mostly because
    I did three pounds of it yesterday. Bacon. I got, as a gift, a round platter, ridged on one side and smooth on the other. I use the ridged
    side to nuke bacon rashers for five minutes - covered w/old newspaper.
    AT LAST - a use for the local bird-cage liner since I don't have a
    bird.

    One of the pieces we bought was a rectangular tray, with a ridged,
    sloped interior. The slope ended in a shallow well at one of the narrow ends--meant for cooking bacon and the well was to catch the grease. I
    used it for a while; after Steve went on his anti pig spell, bacon was
    not usually in the house. I passed that dish on, maybe to one of our daghters? Now we cook bacon 3 different ways--frying pan for small
    amounts when we want to save the grease, oven for large amounts &
    saving the grease or on a paper towel covered plate in the microwave
    for small amounts when we don't want to save the grease.

    I had one of those at one time but it didn't please me for some reason
    now forgotten. I also had one of the "racks" (https://tinyurl.com/E-BAIT-IT) But I donated it to the Goodwill because it spattered bacon grease around
    the interior of the microwave and it was as hard to clean up after as a
    puppy with diarrhoea.

    The ridged side of the platter even has a notch w/lip for decanting
    the bacon drippings into a suitable container for future reference.

    Oh, yeag it's from NordicWare - which is a plus in my book.

    I've never used the smooth dise for its stated purpose - reheating
    cold pizza. Huh? Leftover pizza? What's that??? Bv)=

    Something we have a bit more of these days, now that I'm cooking for 2
    and our appetites aren't as big as they once were.

    With a room mate and three mutts ......

    four ounce can of chooped green chilies stirred in once things heated
    uo. At suooer time some pre-made flour tortillas, shredded cheese and
    a shake or two of Cholula - et voila' - supper. No muss, no fuss,
    minimal

    Sounds good. We went to a local Mexican place for lunch today. Steve
    had chicken in a chipotle cream sauce; I had a chicken breast with
    chorizo topping. Both came with rice & beans, flour tortillas and mine
    had a small salad also. As usual, from that place, very good.

    clean up. Heck the dogs pre-washed the crockpot for me. Bv)=

    I usually always get my lunch order w/rice & beans. Which I then stir together and pour a healthy dollop of the "salsa" that nearly all of
    our local Mexican venues present w/tortilla chops as an "appetiser".

    Then I eat it be scooping up with those chips.

    We decline the chips because they're corn and............

    Most of the places around here use flour tortillas. I like either but the
    corn ones seem to break easier when used for dipping something substantial
    like rice & beans rather than the thin salsa presented when you are seated.

    I've noticed that darned few of the Latino places in this area have
    any offerings with pork or fish. Just beef and chicken. The ones which *do* offer pork or fish dishes are the ones I tend to give repeat bsuiness.

    Place we went to had several shrimp and pork choices.

    I generally go for lunch and the places doing seafood generally have it
    as a dinner (evening) selection. But the ones which have pork are on
    repeat with me.

    BTW, we found Ale 8 One in KY; I try to get a 6 pack of the diet
    version (Ale 8 Zero) when we're going thru the state. Either they've reduced the caffiene or I don't notice it but I've not been aware of
    any great amounts.

    I am told part of the effect comes from ginger. That may be. But I've
    had ginger ales and Vernor's Ginger Soda with tastable amounts of ginger
    in them and never got the "speed" like reaction I got from Ale - 8

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cinnamon Chips
    Categories: Five, Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 6 servings

    10 (10") flour tortillas
    1/2 c Butter; melted
    1/3 c sugar
    2 ts Ground cinnamon

    Mix sugar and cinnamon together in a small bowl. Set
    aside.

    Brush flour tortillas with butter and sprinkle with
    cinnamon sugar mixture.

    Cut each tortilla into eight wedges. Then cut off the
    tip and cut 3 more triangles from the top of the
    tortilla. Place on ungreased baking sheets.

    Bake @ 350ºF/175ºC for 8-10 minutes or just until crisp.

    Serve with fruit salsa.

    RECIPE FROM: https://lilluna.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Mar 24 19:50:22 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Just remembered something I *do* cook in my microwave. Mostly because
    I did three pounds of it yesterday. Bacon. I got, as a gift, a round platter, ridged on one side and smooth on the other. I use the ridged
    side to nuke bacon rashers for five minutes - covered w/old newspaper.

    One of the pieces we bought was a rectangular tray, with a ridged,
    sloped interior. The slope ended in a shallow well at one of the narrow ends--meant for cooking bacon and the well was to catch the grease. I
    used it for a while; after Steve went on his anti pig spell, bacon was
    not usually in the house. I passed that dish on, maybe to one of our daghters? Now we cook bacon 3 different ways--frying pan for small
    amounts when we want to save the grease, oven for large amounts &
    saving the grease or on a paper towel covered plate in the microwave
    for small amounts when we don't want to save the grease.

    I had one of those at one time but it didn't please me for some reason
    now forgotten. I also had one of the "racks"

    I know, we each have certain cookware we like, others, we'd just as soon rehome. I like my cast iron fry pans but Steve has a lighter weight non
    stick one that he usually grabs. The cast iron is just as non stick; it
    just weighs a bit more. (G)

    (https://tinyurl.com/E-BAIT-IT) But I donated it to the Goodwill
    because it spattered bacon grease around the interior of the

    Probably a rack thing that you drape the bacon over? I could never see
    the sense of that one either.

    The ridged side of the platter even has a notch w/lip for decanting
    the bacon drippings into a suitable container for future reference.
    Oh, yeag it's from NordicWare - which is a plus in my book.

    Some brands are worth every penny of what you pay for it.

    I've never used the smooth dise for its stated purpose - reheating
    cold pizza. Huh? Leftover pizza? What's that??? Bv)=

    Something we have a bit more of these days, now that I'm cooking for 2
    and our appetites aren't as big as they once were.

    With a room mate and three mutts ......

    We don't have any critters (pulmonology drs strong reccommendation) but
    do get puppy love from our neighbor's cocker spaniel. He's not quite 2
    years old, beginning to settle down but still gets all kind of excited
    when he sees us.

    I usually always get my lunch order w/rice & beans. Which I then stir together and pour a healthy dollop of the "salsa" that nearly all of
    our local Mexican venues present w/tortilla chops as an "appetiser".

    Then I eat it be scooping up with those chips.

    We decline the chips because they're corn and............

    Most of the places around here use flour tortillas. I like either but
    the corn ones seem to break easier when used for dipping something substantial like rice & beans rather than the thin salsa presented
    when you are seated.

    I like both of them but usually don't have any chips when it's just
    Steve and me at the table. He did find some black bean chips put out by/available at Wegman's that are a good sub for corn chips. They're
    good tasting, not beany and no corn in them.

    I've noticed that darned few of the Latino places in this area have
    any offerings with pork or fish. Just beef and chicken. The ones
    which DD> *do* offer pork or fish dishes are the ones I tend to give
    repeat DD> bsuiness.

    Place we went to had several shrimp and pork choices.

    I generally go for lunch and the places doing seafood generally have
    it as a dinner (evening) selection. But the ones which have pork are
    on
    repeat with me.

    They probably would be with me also. This place has the pork and shrimp
    on the menu for both lunch and supper. As is the case with a lot of our favorite places over the years, this is a small place (bigger than some
    we've come to enjoy), very popular with the student population in town
    but we can usually get seated when we walk in on a Sunday afternoon.

    BTW, we found Ale 8 One in KY; I try to get a 6 pack of the diet
    version (Ale 8 Zero) when we're going thru the state. Either
    they've RH> reduced the caffiene or I don't notice it but I've not been
    aware of RH> any great amounts.

    I am told part of the effect comes from ginger. That may be. But I've
    had ginger ales and Vernor's Ginger Soda with tastable amounts of
    ginger in them and never got the "speed" like reaction I got from Ale
    - 8

    Maybe a combination of ginger and caffiene? I gave Nancy a can of it
    when she came down for the picnic we hosted in 2019; I don't think it
    had enough ginger for her tastes. (G)

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Mar 29 06:39:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Can you call ahead and let them know you're coming but wanting
    something other than the usual? Or are there other ways to let them

    Hasn't been necessary so far. Yesterday I had breakfast @ Charlie
    Parker's Diner (a nationally known place - been on Diners, Drive-
    Ins & Dives, won a national food competition put on by a food
    supplier, been written up in several cooking magazines and web

    I've read your write ups of that place over the years. Glad to hear
    that they're keeping it same down home, friendly place.

    Well, sure. That's the recipe for success ... "Dance with who brought
    you." Something that Steak & Shake hasn't got a grip on. They went from
    regular waitress service to a "Quick Serve" model like Panera Bread,
    Culver's or Starbucks. The food is the same but the experience is far different. My local franchisee (the first franchise for S&S) is giving
    ditching the brand for a name/look that will make it obvious they are the
    same place they used to be but , Won't let the national chain sue their
    socks off.

    I used to eat at Steak & Shake four or more times per week. Now I don't
    go there that many times in a year.

    sites - but it's still a friendly, cazy, home-town venue with a
    decent menu and reasonable prices. All of the wait-staff know me
    and they also point me out to new hires (not many of those, staff
    turnover is low). And like my other regular stops they know my
    "usual" but always confirm it with me before submitting the order
    to the kitchen.

    Always good to confirm. Most mornings I have breakfast on the light
    side but it can vary from a bagel half with veggie cream cheese and yougurt to a bowl of cereal to a slice of toast with either a bit of butter blend or jam & yogurt to (rarely) bacon and eggs with a piece of toast. All of the above are accompanied by a mug of black tea. I've
    given up pancakes and waffles--too tempting to dump on the maple syrup.

    Be no temptation for me. I abhor maple syrup. But, I do put jam/jelly or
    honey on my panquakes.

    asthma. BTW, the fall RV/radio net rally will be in Pigeon Forge, TN so I've already told Steve that we're going to visit the Lodge outlet.

    Been there, done that. At the original in South Pittsburg - just off
    of I-24 pn the way to Chatanooga. Scored a really nice 12" ridged
    skillet and an oval griddle which sees a lot of use.

    We'll be camping at Pigeon Forge but no plans to go to Dollywood.

    I'd give it a miss, as well. Amusement parks do not amuse me.

    better price. While RH> we were living in Savannah, we got a round
    griddle (about 9" diameter) RH> that gets a lot of use. I've got a lot
    of other cast iron, including a RH> small pot/cover we found at
    ReStore--made in Mexico--that also gets a RH> lot of use.

    My round griddle (inherited from my grandparents kitchen) hasn't seen
    use for several years. Since I cook just for one (two at most) much of
    the time the big guy is sort of overkill and the smaller, oval one
    works better and more conveniently.

    The round one works well for a lot of things--fits one of the "coils"
    or the induction cooker nicely. If we do some sort of grilled cheese or other grilled sandwich, we can fit both on the griddle at once. Also
    good for cooking several eggs or slices of bacon (cut in half, under a press), all in all, nice for one or two people.

    Being single and cooking (mostly) for one .......

    I also found that they do enamelled cast iron. so if I need to replace
    any of the uber-expensive LeCreuset stuff I bargain shopped on eBay I
    can get it at Lodge for much more reasonable (and Made-In-America)
    cost.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, do I replace the regular cast iron with enamel clad or
    not? Tempting, but probably not. May pick up a piece or two but I've a good variety of pots/pans already so it would have to be something I
    don't have but could use.

    The LeCruest pieses I have are an oval "French" oven of 9 1/2 qt size (https://www.lecreuset.com/oval-dutch-oven/21178US.html) and a small
    sauce pan (2 quart) w/composite handle which lets you pick it up w/out
    a pot holder or oven mitt. Very convenient. https://www.lecreuset.com/traditional-saucepan-cool-mint/2913901849601 .html

    We stopped into their outlet in SC along I-95 on our way to/from
    Florida a couple of times. Looked, but they didn't have what we wanted
    or could afford.

    Especially not afford. Some of their prices would give John D. Rockefeller pause.

    And lastly I have a small (6" - 7") skillet which is great for
    cooking DD> eggs and sausage or ham for breakfast. But a little small
    for bacon. DD> Bv)=
    https://www.lecreuset.com/signature-skillet/20182US.html

    All are in the colour LeCreuset calls "Flame" (orange). And all would
    be uber-expensive to replace w/new. The little skillet, I see, is
    U$136. I paid (IIRC) U$30 for the saucepan and little skillet on eBay several years ago.

    You got a good deal. I like their blue but doubt I'll ever own any
    unless gifted it. Bought a number of stainless steel pieces a while ago that are our main pots, also have a couple of Calphalon pieces. Other stainless acquired over the years for canning include a 12 qt and 24 qt stock pots/water bath canners.

    I've got a stainless stock pot and a couple sauce pans and a huge (12 pieces) supply of souffle' trays which are great for making baked spaghetti or pot/ shepherds/cottage pies.

    I've made this recipe and had to use all 12 of my trove of souffle dishes
    so. I'd say the the author's 8 - 10 servings is low. Bv)= It works
    without the ricotta, as well. Just put the pasta in the bottom, then
    sauce over, cover w/cheese and into the oven until the cheese begins to
    scorch arund the edges.

    This recipe will feed a crowd - these days I make the meat sauce and
    freeze it in 1 - 2 person portions. Then when I want bakes spaghetti
    I pull one out of the freezer, cook a single/double portion of pan
    length pasta, assemble in the meatl souffle dish, pre-sliced mozzaella
    over the top and into the toaster oven.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Baked Spaghetti
    Categories: Pasta, Pork, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 9 Servings

    3/4 lb Vermicelli or thin spaghetti
    1 lb Italian sausage
    1/4 lb Shiitake or cremini
    - mushrooms; rough chopped
    1 md Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1/4 ts Red pepper flakes
    3 c Marinara or meatless tomato
    - sauce *
    1 1/2 c Water
    1 tb Italian seasoning
    1/4 c Chopped fresh parsley
    1 tb Olive oil + more to grease
    - the casserole
    1 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    2 lg Eggs; beaten
    1 c Ricotta cheese
    2 c (to 3 c) shredded mozzarella
    - cheese

    * You can make your own or use a good quality jarred
    sauce.

    Put a large pot of water on the stove on high heat. Add
    salt to the water, about 2 Tbsp for 6 quarts of water.
    While the pasta water is heating, continue with the next
    steps.

    Break up the sausage into clumps into a large saute pan.
    Turn the heat on, to medium. Slowly cook the sausage,
    breaking it up into smaller pieces with the a wooden
    spoon. The slow cooking will help the fat render out. Cook
    until the sausage is cooked through, no longer pink
    anywhere, and lightly browned. Remove the sausage from the
    pan with a slotted spoon and set aside. Drain the fat from
    the pan (not into your sink or you may clog it!)

    Add the chopped onions and mushrooms to the pan. Increase
    the heat to medium high. Cook, stirring frequently, until
    the onions become translucent and the mushrooms have given
    up some of their liquid. Add the minced garlic and red
    chile pepper flakes, and cook a minute more.

    Add the marinara sauce and the 1 1/2 cups of water to the
    pan with the onions and mushrooms. Add the sausage back to
    the pan. Add the Italian seasoning and chopped parsley.
    Bring to a simmer and reduce the heat to a very low simmer
    on the lowest simmer setting on your stovetop. Cook for 10
    to 15 minutes or so while you make the pasta.

    By this time your pasta water in step one should be
    boiling. Add the pasta to the boiling water and cook,
    uncovered, at a rolling boil, for 5 to 6 minutes, al
    dente. Note that the pasta will continue to cook and
    absorb some of the sauce when it is in the casserole dish
    in the oven, so the pasta should be al dente. When ready,
    drain the pasta and rinse in cold water.

    Place the cooled pasta in a large bowl. Toss with olive
    oil, then the Parmesan, then 2 beaten eggs. It's easiest
    to do this with your (clean) hands.

    Set your oven @ 350oF/175oC.

    Rub the inside of a 13" x 9" casserole dish (a Pyrex dish
    works great) with olive oil. Spread 1 cup of the sauce
    over the bottom of the casserole dish.

    Place half of the pasta in an even layer in the casserole
    dish.

    Cover with half of the sauce. Then dot the sauce with all
    of the ricotta cheese. Sprinkle half of the Mozzarella
    over the ricotta layer. Layer again with the remaining
    pasta, the remaining sauce, and the remaining Mozzarella.

    Cover with foil and bake for 40 min at 350oF/175oC.

    Remove the foil and bake an additional 20 minutes
    uncovered. Remove from oven and let rest for at least 10
    minutes before cutting into squares and serving.

    Yield: Serves 8 to 10

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Mar 29 15:46:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Hasn't been necessary so far. Yesterday I had breakfast @ Charlie
    Parker's Diner (a nationally known place - been on Diners, Drive-

    I've read your write ups of that place over the years. Glad to hear
    that they're keeping it same down home, friendly place.

    Well, sure. That's the recipe for success ... "Dance with who brought you." Something that Steak & Shake hasn't got a grip on. They went

    Fast track to closing the doors on a place. We've never stopped at the
    S&S in Raleigh, found other places to spend money on food.


    from regular waitress service to a "Quick Serve" model like Panera
    Bread,
    Culver's or Starbucks. The food is the same but the experience is far

    Last time we were in a Panera Bread was several years ago, using a gift
    card from one of our daughters. Gotten ice cream at Culvers (but again,
    not in years) and even more years since we've been in Starbucks.

    different. My local franchisee (the first franchise for S&S) is
    giving DD> ditching the brand for a name/look that will make it obvious
    they are DD> the same place they used to be but , Won't let the
    national chain sue DD> their socks off.

    Sounds like somebody had a good idea. (G)

    butter blend or jam & yogurt to (rarely) bacon and eggs with a piece of toast. All of the above are accompanied by a mug of black tea. I've
    given up pancakes and waffles--too tempting to dump on the maple syrup.

    Be no temptation for me. I abhor maple syrup. But, I do put jam/jelly
    or honey on my panquakes.

    I grew up in maple country; my parents never bought any imitation stuff.
    When Steve and I got married, he had a bottle of, IIRC, Aunt Jemima's
    syrup. After that bottle was used up we never had anything else but pure
    maple, even in places like Germany or HI. Trips back to NY or Christmas packages kept us well stocked--my dad mailed a gallon tin to HI right
    after 9/11. Arrived with a few minor dents but contents were intact.


    The LeCruest pieses I have are an oval "French" oven of 9 1/2 qt size

    We stopped into their outlet in SC along I-95 on our way to/from
    Florida a couple of times. Looked, but they didn't have what we wanted
    or could afford.

    Especially not afford. Some of their prices would give John D.
    Rockefeller pause.

    Very much so; we refer to it as "the fancy French cookware store". We
    also checked out the Sabret (?) outlet--they do knives--but found
    nothing there that wasn't covered by our Rada collection for our needs.

    All are in the colour LeCreuset calls "Flame" (orange). And all would
    be uber-expensive to replace w/new. The little skillet, I see, is
    U$136. I paid (IIRC) U$30 for the saucepan and little skillet on eBay several years ago.

    You got a good deal. I like their blue but doubt I'll ever own any
    unless gifted it. Bought a number of stainless steel pieces a while ago that are our main pots, also have a couple of Calphalon pieces. Other stainless acquired over the years for canning include a 12 qt and 24 qt stock pots/water bath canners.

    I've got a stainless stock pot and a couple sauce pans and a huge (12 pieces)


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Mar 31 06:18:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hasn't been necessary so far. Yesterday I had breakfast @ Charlie
    Parker's Diner (a nationally known place - been on Diners, Drive-

    I've read your write ups of that place over the years. Glad to hear
    that they're keeping it same down home, friendly place.

    Well, sure. That's the recipe for success ... "Dance with who brought you." Something that Steak & Shake hasn't got a grip on. They went

    Fast track to closing the doors on a place. We've never stopped at the
    S&S in Raleigh, found other places to spend money on food.

    I'lb bet Gus Belt (S&S founder) is spinning like a top in his crypt. I've
    eaten at the #1 location where he started it all, just 50 mor so miles up
    the road from me.

    from regular waitress service to a "Quick Serve" model like Panera
    Bread, Culver's or Starbucks. The food is the same but the experience
    is far

    Last time we were in a Panera Bread was several years ago, using a gift card from one of our daughters. Gotten ice cream at Culvers (but again, not in years) and even more years since we've been in Starbucks.

    Panera's is OK as a bakery or maker of bagels. My Sunday morning breakfast bunch went there once for breakfast at the suggestion of one of our guys.
    We've never gone back,

    different. My local franchisee (the first franchisee for S&S) is
    giving ditching the brand for a name/look that will make it obvious
    that they are the same place they used to be but, won't let the
    national chain sue their socks off.

    Sounds like somebody had a good idea. (G)

    I still see many of my (former) S&S servers in different venues. One
    of them told me that she couldn't afford to stay w/Steak & Shake as
    her average tipped hourly income was north of U$20/hr (More than I
    make after 18 years @ AutoZone.

    butter blend or jam & yogurt to (rarely) bacon and eggs with a piece of toast. All of the above are accompanied by a mug of black tea. I've
    given up pancakes and waffles--too tempting to dump on the maple syrup.

    Be no temptation for me. I abhor maple syrup. But, I do put jam/jelly
    or honey on my panquakes.

    I grew up in maple country; my parents never bought any imitation
    stuff. When Steve and I got married, he had a bottle of, IIRC, Aunt Jemima's syrup. After that bottle was used up we never had anything
    else but pure maple, even in places like Germany or HI. Trips back to
    NY or Christmas packages kept us well stocked--my dad mailed a gallon
    tin to HI right after 9/11. Arrived with a few minor dents but contents were intact.

    I'm just down the road from a world famous "Maple Sirup" (their spelling)
    venue -- Funk's Grove (https://www.funkspuremaplesirup.com/)

    The LeCruest pieses I have are an oval "French" oven of 9 1/2 qt size

    We stopped into their outlet in SC along I-95 on our way to/from
    Florida a couple of times. Looked, but they didn't have what we wanted
    or could afford.

    Especially not afford. Some of their prices would give John D.
    Rockefeller pause.

    Very much so; we refer to it as "the fancy French cookware store". We
    also checked out the Sabret (?) outlet--they do knives--but found
    nothing there that wasn't covered by our Rada collection for our needs.

    I've got some Rada (mostly steak) knives from my sister's church fund
    raisers over the years. I'm not a big fan of the metal handles.

    All are in the colour LeCreuset calls "Flame" (orange). And all would
    be uber-expensive to replace w/new. The little skillet, I see, is
    U$136. I paid (IIRC) U$30 for the saucepan and little skillet on eBay several years ago.

    You got a good deal. I like their blue but doubt I'll ever own any
    unless gifted it. Bought a number of stainless steel pieces a while ago that are our main pots, also have a couple of Calphalon pieces. Other stainless acquired over the years for canning include a 12 qt and 24 qt stock pots/water bath canners.

    Had I not scored such a super deal I'd not have been able to afford new
    Le Creuset pieces. I'm interested to see what Lodge's enamelled pieces
    go for.

    I've got a stainless stock pot and a couple sauce pans and a huge (12 pieces)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hot Gooseberry Souffle
    Categories: Five, Fruits, Desserts, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Gooseberry puree; thick and
    - sweetened
    6 tb Butter
    1/2 c Flour
    1 c Milk
    3 lg Eggs; separated

    In a heavy pan, melt the butter over low heat. As the
    butter melts, stir in the flour. Stir until smooth and
    blended, then gradually add the milk, stirring all the
    time so that the mixture remains smooth. Bring to the
    boiling point, still stirring, and cook for three minutes.
    Add the gooseberry puree and stir until thoroughly mixed.

    Beat the egg yolks until they are light and combine them
    with the gooseberry mixture. Beat the whites until they
    are stiff (this means that you can turn the bowl upside
    down without any ill effect), and use a metal spoon to
    gently fold the whites into the gooseberry mixture.

    Lightly oil a 5-cup souffle dish. Turn the mixture into the
    souffle dish and bake on the middle shelf of a preheated
    375øF/190øC oven for about 45 minutes. By this time the
    souffle should be crisp on the outside and still creamy on
    the inside. (For a more creamy result, bake the souffle in
    a water bath: Stand the souffle dish in a pan and pour
    enough hot water into the pan to cover the sides of the
    dish by about 2 inches.)

    Remember that the souffle will not remain at its best for
    more than a few minutes after leaving the oven.

    Source: Time-Life "Good Cook" series, Foods.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Mar 31 19:40:12 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Well, sure. That's the recipe for success ... "Dance with who brought you." Something that Steak & Shake hasn't got a grip on. They went

    Fast track to closing the doors on a place. We've never stopped at the
    S&S in Raleigh, found other places to spend money on food.

    I'lb bet Gus Belt (S&S founder) is spinning like a top in his crypt.
    I've eaten at the #1 location where he started it all, just 50 mor so miles up the road from me.

    Like other founders who started something good, only to have it
    corrupted over the years so it bears little resemblence to the original.


    from regular waitress service to a "Quick Serve" model like Panera
    Bread, Culver's or Starbucks. The food is the same but the experience
    is far

    Last time we were in a Panera Bread was several years ago, using a gift card from one of our daughters. Gotten ice cream at Culvers (but again, not in years) and even more years since we've been in Starbucks.

    Panera's is OK as a bakery or maker of bagels. My Sunday morning
    breakfast bunch went there once for breakfast at the suggestion of one
    of our guys. We've never gone back,

    We've gone there a few times, more so when we lived in GA than up here.
    They are good for a change from the usual fast food place in that a cup
    of soup and a half sandwich are just as filling. There's usually a
    variety of soups and sandwiches to choose from also.


    I still see many of my (former) S&S servers in different venues. One
    of them told me that she couldn't afford to stay w/Steak & Shake as
    her average tipped hourly income was north of U$20/hr (More than I
    make after 18 years @ AutoZone.

    A food service job is quite strenuous; I did it one summer while in high
    school but couldn't do it now.

    Be no temptation for me. I abhor maple syrup. But, I do put jam/jelly
    or honey on my panquakes.

    I grew up in maple country; my parents never bought any imitation
    stuff. When Steve and I got married, he had a bottle of, IIRC, Aunt Jemima's syrup. After that bottle was used up we never had anything
    else but pure maple, even in places like Germany or HI. Trips back to
    NY or Christmas packages kept us well stocked--my dad mailed a gallon
    tin to HI right after 9/11. Arrived with a few minor dents but contents were intact.

    I'm just down the road from a world famous "Maple Sirup" (their
    spelling) venue -- Funk's Grove
    (https://www.funkspuremaplesirup.com/)

    We keep well stocked now with our trips to VT.


    The LeCruest pieses I have are an oval "French" oven of 9 1/2 qt size

    We stopped into their outlet in SC along I-95 on our way to/from
    Florida a couple of times. Looked, but they didn't have what we wanted
    or could afford.

    Especially not afford. Some of their prices would give John D.
    Rockefeller pause.

    Very much so; we refer to it as "the fancy French cookware store". We
    also checked out the Sabret (?) outlet--they do knives--but found
    nothing there that wasn't covered by our Rada collection for our needs.

    I've got some Rada (mostly steak) knives from my sister's church fund raisers over the years. I'm not a big fan of the metal handles.

    You can get them with black composite handles. We had one knife with
    that handle (metal handle was sold out at that place) but found the same
    knife with the metal handle a couple of years ago. The composite handle
    one is now part of the camper kitchen. Found a set of 6 brand new steak
    knives at a yard sale for (IIRC) $15. a few years ago so got them, added
    a couple more. Most of our knife blocks (2) are filled with Rada knives.

    All are in the colour LeCreuset calls "Flame" (orange). And all
    would DD> be uber-expensive to replace w/new. The little skillet, I
    see, is DD> U$136. I paid (IIRC) U$30 for the saucepan and little
    skillet on eBay DD> several years ago.

    You got a good deal. I like their blue but doubt I'll ever own any
    unless gifted it. Bought a number of stainless steel pieces a while ago that are our main pots, also have a couple of Calphalon pieces. Other stainless acquired over the years for canning include a 12 qt and 24 qt stock pots/water bath canners.

    Had I not scored such a super deal I'd not have been able to afford
    new Le Creuset pieces. I'm interested to see what Lodge's enamelled pieces go for.

    If I remember in September, I'll jot down some prices at the outlet
    store.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Apr 2 05:18:38 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Well, sure. That's the recipe for success ... "Dance with who brought you." Something that Steak & Shake hasn't got a grip on. They went

    Fast track to closing the doors on a place. We've never stopped at the
    S&S in Raleigh, found other places to spend money on food.

    I'lb bet Gus Belt (S&S founder) is spinning like a top in his crypt.
    I've eaten at the #1 location where he started it all, just 50 mor so miles up the road from me.

    Like other founders who started something good, only to have it
    corrupted over the years so it bears little resemblence to the
    original.

    Not only in business but government and religion. When life evolves it's
    not always in a positive way. Bv(=

    from regular waitress service to a "Quick Serve" model like Panera
    Bread, Culver's or Starbucks. The food is the same but the experience
    is far

    Last time we were in a Panera Bread was several years ago, using a gift card from one of our daughters. Gotten ice cream at Culvers (but again, not in years) and even more years since we've been in Starbucks.

    Panera's is OK as a bakery or maker of bagels. My Sunday morning
    breakfast bunch went there once for breakfast at the suggestion of one
    of our guys. We've never gone back,

    We've gone there a few times, more so when we lived in GA than up here. They are good for a change from the usual fast food place in that a cup
    of soup and a half sandwich are just as filling. There's usually a
    variety of soups and sandwiches to choose from also.

    Panera soups are quite good. As long as I can treat them like a Fats
    Food joint I've no problem. But I dob't care for them as a sit-down
    restaurant.

    I still see many of my (former) S&S servers in different venues. One
    of them told me that she couldn't afford to stay w/Steak & Shake as
    her average tipped hourly income was north of U$20/hr (More than I
    make after 18 years @ AutoZone.

    A food service job is quite strenuous; I did it one summer while in
    high school but couldn't do it now.

    I never found food service to be "strenuous". Although at 82 all those
    hours on my feet and the hustling food would probably do me in. I'd have
    to settle for sitting o a tall stool and running the ca$h register.

    8<----- MAPLE SIRUP DRAINED ----->8

    The LeCruest pieses I have are an oval "French" oven of 9 1/2 qt size

    We stopped into their outlet in SC along I-95 on our way to/from
    Florida a couple of times. Looked, but they didn't have what we wanted
    or could afford.

    Especially not afford. Some of their prices would give John D.
    Rockefeller pause.

    Very much so; we refer to it as "the fancy French cookware store". We
    also checked out the Sabret (?) outlet--they do knives--but found
    nothing there that wasn't covered by our Rada collection for our needs.

    I've got some Rada (mostly steak) knives from my sister's church fund raisers over the years. I'm not a big fan of the metal handles.

    You can get them with black composite handles. We had one knife with
    that handle (metal handle was sold out at that place) but found the
    same knife with the metal handle a couple of years ago. The composite handle one is now part of the camper kitchen. Found a set of 6 brand
    new steak knives at a yard sale for (IIRC) $15. a few years ago so got them, added a couple more. Most of our knife blocks (2) are filled with Rada knives.

    When Georgia was flogging them for her church group fund-raiser all I ever
    saw available was the brushed aluminum handles. The composite hanles would
    have been (very) nice.

    My "sharps" are a mish-mash of Wusthof, Henkels, a Viktoronix 8" chef's
    knifw I scored for U$1 at a flea market and some Santoku Japanese knives.
    But, my overall most used/go to knife is an old "Old Hickory" butcher's
    knife. It has a 10" forged steel blade, riveted wood handle and I keep it
    sharp with my whet stone and steel hone.

    All are in the colour LeCreuset calls "Flame" (orange). And all
    would DD> be uber-expensive to replace w/new. The little skillet, I
    see, is DD> U$136. I paid (IIRC) U$30 for the saucepan and little
    skillet on eBay DD> several years ago.

    You got a good deal. I like their blue but doubt I'll ever own any
    unless gifted it. Bought a number of stainless steel pieces a while ago that are our main pots, also have a couple of Calphalon pieces. Other stainless acquired over the years for canning include a 12 qt and 24 qt stock pots/water bath canners.

    Had I not scored such a super deal I'd not have been able to afford
    new Le Creuset pieces. I'm interested to see what Lodge's enamelled pieces go for.

    If I remember in September, I'll jot down some prices at the outlet
    store.

    I looked on te interweb and their 7 1/2 qt. oval, enamelle,d Dutch oven
    can be had @ Target <U$100. I'd expect even friendlier pricing at the
    outlet store.

    They also offer ths: An oval casserole in 2 Quart size.

    https://www.amazon.com/Lodge-EC2C43-Oval-casserole-Quart/dp/B07GVPV2YL?th=1

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    2 c A-P flour
    4 c Milk
    2 c Water
    Salt & coarse ground pepper

    Brown sausage in Dutch oven. Add milk and while milk is
    still cool, mix flour and water thoroughly and add to
    milk. Stir constantly as it thickens to desired texture.
    Salt and pepper. Serve over biscuits.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Apr 2 13:17:04 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I'lb bet Gus Belt (S&S founder) is spinning like a top in his crypt.
    I've eaten at the #1 location where he started it all, just 50 mor so miles up the road from me.

    Like other founders who started something good, only to have it
    corrupted over the years so it bears little resemblence to the
    original.

    Not only in business but government and religion. When life evolves
    it's not always in a positive way. Bv(=

    True, those are the times when I say life has devolved. (G)


    Panera's is OK as a bakery or maker of bagels. My Sunday morning
    breakfast bunch went there once for breakfast at the suggestion of one
    of our guys. We've never gone back,

    We've gone there a few times, more so when we lived in GA than up here. They are good for a change from the usual fast food place in that a cup
    of soup and a half sandwich are just as filling. There's usually a
    variety of soups and sandwiches to choose from also.

    Panera soups are quite good. As long as I can treat them like a Fats
    Food joint I've no problem. But I dob't care for them as a sit-down restaurant.

    No, we took our meal to go the last time we went; the place did not have
    a good "sit down and enjoy your food here" vibe.

    I still see many of my (former) S&S servers in different venues.
    One DD> of them told me that she couldn't afford to stay w/Steak &
    Shake as DD> her average tipped hourly income was north of U$20/hr
    (More than I DD> make after 18 years @ AutoZone.

    A food service job is quite strenuous; I did it one summer while in
    high school but couldn't do it now.

    I never found food service to be "strenuous". Although at 82 all those hours on my feet and the hustling food would probably do me in. I'd
    have to settle for sitting o a tall stool and running the ca$h
    register.

    You're on your feet for long hours, careful when carrying the tray that
    you don't trip, bump into anything, etc. After I did my knee in while in college, I couldn't take a job like that any more.

    8<----- MAPLE SIRUP DRAINED ----->8

    also checked out the Sabret (?) outlet--they do knives--but found
    nothing there that wasn't covered by our Rada collection for our needs.

    I've got some Rada (mostly steak) knives from my sister's church fund raisers over the years. I'm not a big fan of the metal handles.

    You can get them with black composite handles. We had one knife with
    that handle (metal handle was sold out at that place) but found the
    same knife with the metal handle a couple of years ago. The composite handle one is now part of the camper kitchen. Found a set of 6 brand
    new steak knives at a yard sale for (IIRC) $15. a few years ago so got them, added a couple more. Most of our knife blocks (2) are filled with Rada knives.

    When Georgia was flogging them for her church group fund-raiser all I
    ever saw available was the brushed aluminum handles. The composite
    hanles would have been (very) nice.

    They're just as good as the brushed aluminum; when we started buying
    them, the aluminum handle was on all the pieces we wanted but for the
    utility knife. Bought the composite handle for that, found another
    outlet in West Amana, IA a couple of years ago. BTW, we were introduced
    to Rada by our friend that passed away in PA about 3 weeks ago & we
    bought most of our knives at Amish or Mennonite stores up there.

    My "sharps" are a mish-mash of Wusthof, Henkels, a Viktoronix 8"
    chef's knifw I scored for U$1 at a flea market and some Santoku DD>
    Japanese knives. But, my overall most used/go to knife is an old "Old
    Hickory" butcher's knife. It has a 10" forged steel blade, riveted
    wood handle and I keep it sharp with my whet stone and steel hone.

    I've got a Henkels chef's knife I picked up in Savannah, a couple of
    Victorinox paring knives (one straight, one serrated) and a small
    Victorinox bread knife I got at a small hardware store in Gruendelwald, Switzerland for a few francs each. Plus a wooden handle santoku (Steve's favorite) that he got at H Mart in MD at our first echo picnic, a
    cleaver and a boning knife from a cheap set (only pieces worth keeping
    of about 20 knives) we got in HI and a few other odds and ends of
    knives. For years my favorite knife was a squared off blade chef's type
    knife I got for $1. at a yard sale in San Angelo, TX. It had a plastic
    handle that Steve patched several times over the years until we got the
    chef's knife about 24 years later.

    Had I not scored such a super deal I'd not have been able to afford
    new Le Creuset pieces. I'm interested to see what Lodge's enamelled pieces go for.

    If I remember in September, I'll jot down some prices at the outlet
    store.

    I looked on te interweb and their 7 1/2 qt. oval, enamelle,d Dutch
    oven can be had @ Target <U$100. I'd expect even friendlier pricing at
    the outlet store.

    They also offer ths: An oval casserole in 2 Quart size.

    https://www.amazon.com/Lodge-EC2C43-Oval-casserole-Quart/dp/B07GVPV2YL th=1

    I've got a 2.5 and a 3.5 oval casseroles in Corning Ware so I'm set
    there. Also have a god number of round casseroles in various sizes from
    1/2 qt to (IIRC) 4 qt. One of my 1.5 qt ones gets used a lot for heating
    soup, cooking vegetables, etc--just right for the 2 of us.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Apr 4 07:09:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'lb bet Gus Belt (S&S founder) is spinning like a top in his crypt.
    I've eaten at the #1 location where he started it all, just 50 mor so miles up the road from me.

    Like other founders who started something good, only to have it
    corrupted over the years so it bears little resemblence to the
    original.

    Not only in business but government and religion. When life evolves
    it's not always in a positive way. Bv(=

    True, those are the times when I say life has devolved. (G)

    Without getting into polly - ticks the polarisation of this country
    has me worried about the future of the American Dream. There's waaaaay
    too much "my way or the highway" and not enough finding common grond
    and working from there. 'Nuff of that. Bv)=

    Panera's is OK as a bakery or maker of bagels. My Sunday morning
    breakfast bunch went there once for breakfast at the suggestion of one
    of our guys. We've never gone back,

    We've gone there a few times, more so when we lived in GA than up here. They are good for a change from the usual fast food place in that a cup
    of soup and a half sandwich are just as filling. There's usually a
    variety of soups and sandwiches to choose from also.

    Panera soups are quite good. As long as I can treat them like a Fats
    Food joint I've no problem. But I dob't care for them as a sit-down restaurant.

    No, we took our meal to go the last time we went; the place did not
    have a good "sit down and enjoy your food here" vibe.

    Perzackly

    I still see many of my (former) S&S servers in different venues.
    One DD> of them told me that she couldn't afford to stay w/Steak &
    Shake as DD> her average tipped hourly income was north of U$20/hr
    (More than I DD> make after 18 years @ AutoZone.

    A food service job is quite strenuous; I did it one summer while in
    high school but couldn't do it now.

    I never found food service to be "strenuous". Although at 82 all those hours on my feet and the hustling food would probably do me in. I'd
    have to settle for sitting o a tall stool and running the ca$h
    register.

    You're on your feet for long hours, careful when carrying the tray that you don't trip, bump into anything, etc. After I did my knee in while
    in college, I couldn't take a job like that any more.

    Some of those servers (I almost used the "sexist" girls) are amazing. I
    see them with four or five dinners at a time, spread up both arms from
    wrist to ....... and delivered to table without spilling a noodle.

    8<----- MAPLE SIRUP DRAINED ----->8

    also checked out the Sabret (?) outlet--they do knives--but found
    nothing there that wasn't covered by our Rada collection for our needs.

    I've got some Rada (mostly steak) knives from my sister's church fund raisers over the years. I'm not a big fan of the metal handles.

    You can get them with black composite handles. We had one knife with
    that handle (metal handle was sold out at that place) but found the
    same knife with the metal handle a couple of years ago. The composite handle one is now part of the camper kitchen. Found a set of 6 brand
    new steak knives at a yard sale for (IIRC) $15. a few years ago so got them, added a couple more. Most of our knife blocks (2) are filled with Rada knives.

    When Georgia was flogging them for her church group fund-raiser all I
    ever saw available was the brushed aluminum handles. The composite
    hanles would have been (very) nice.

    They're just as good as the brushed aluminum; when we started buying
    them, the aluminum handle was on all the pieces we wanted but for the utility knife. Bought the composite handle for that, found another
    outlet in West Amana, IA a couple of years ago. BTW, we were introduced
    to Rada by our friend that passed away in PA about 3 weeks ago & we
    bought most of our knives at Amish or Mennonite stores up there.

    I would expect the quality to be similar.

    My "sharps" are a mish-mash of Wusthof, Henkels, a Viktoronix 8"
    chef's knifw I scored for U$1 at a flea market and some Santoku DD>
    Japanese knives. But, my overall most used/go to knife is an old "Old
    Hickory" butcher's knife. It has a 10" forged steel blade, riveted
    wood handle and I keep it sharp with my whet stone and steel hone.

    I've got a Henkels chef's knife I picked up in Savannah, a couple of Victorinox paring knives (one straight, one serrated) and a small Victorinox bread knife I got at a small hardware store in Gruendelwald, Switzerland for a few francs each. Plus a wooden handle santoku
    (Steve's favorite) that he got at H Mart in MD at our first echo
    picnic, a cleaver and a boning knife from a cheap set (only pieces
    worth keeping of about 20 knives) we got in HI and a few other odds and ends of knives. For years my favorite knife was a squared off blade
    chef's type knife I got for $1. at a yard sale in San Angelo, TX. It
    had a plastic handle that Steve patched several times over the years
    until we got the chef's knife about 24 years later.

    Mine are, as I said, an American 'melting pot' for home ports and makers.
    Just went and looked and my paring knife (which gets little/no use these
    days) is an Old Hickory like my butcher's knife. Peelnh, paring vegetables
    and fruits is mostly done with an OXO Good Grips peeler. And where the
    paring kn ife would come in handy - coring/stemming tomatoes or peppers
    I usually find a steak knife first and use that. Bv)=

    Had I not scored such a super deal I'd not have been able to afford
    new Le Creuset pieces. I'm interested to see what Lodge's enamelled pieces go for.

    If I remember in September, I'll jot down some prices at the outlet
    store.

    I looked on te interweb and their 7 1/2 qt. oval, enamelled Dutch
    oven can be had @ Target <U$100. I'd expect even friendlier pricing at
    the outlet store.

    They also offer ths: An oval casserole in 2 Quart size.

    https://www.amazon.com/Lodge-EC2C43-Oval-casserole-Quart/dp/B07GVPV2YL th=1

    I've got a 2.5 and a 3.5 oval casseroles in Corning Ware so I'm set
    there. Also have a god number of round casseroles in various sizes from 1/2 qt to (IIRC) 4 qt. One of my 1.5 qt ones gets used a lot for
    heating soup, cooking vegetables, etc--just right for the 2 of us.

    I don't gots an oval one that small. I may have to investigate further.
    This wold work well in that size casserole .......

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Broccoli Casserole
    Categories: Casseroles, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 3 Servings

    10 oz Broccoli; thawed, chopped
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    4 tb Butter
    1/2 c Cheddar cheese; grated
    1/2 c Ritz crackers; crushed
    1/2 c Cream of Mushroom Soup
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    House Seasoning

    MMMMM----------------------HOUSE SEASONING---------------------------
    1 c Kosher Salt
    1/4 c Fresh ground black pepper
    1/4 c Garlic powder

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    1/2 c Ritz crackers; crushed
    1 tb Butter; melted

    Set oven @ 350oF/175oC. Steam broccoli until limp, 10
    minutes. Remove from heat; drain. Saute onion in butter
    and add to broccoli. Add cheese, crackers, soup and
    mayo; mix well.

    Pour mixture into a casserole dish.

    Spinkle topping over casserole and bake for 20 to 25 minutes.

    FROM: Paula Deen

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Apr 4 13:36:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Like other founders who started something good, only to have it
    corrupted over the years so it bears little resemblence to the
    original.

    Not only in business but government and religion. When life evolves
    it's not always in a positive way. Bv(=

    True, those are the times when I say life has devolved. (G)

    Without getting into polly - ticks the polarisation of this country
    has me worried about the future of the American Dream. There's waaaaay
    too much "my way or the highway" and not enough finding common grond
    and working from there. 'Nuff of that. Bv)=

    Agreed, end of subject.



    Panera soups are quite good. As long as I can treat them like a Fats
    Food joint I've no problem. But I dob't care for them as a sit-down restaurant.

    No, we took our meal to go the last time we went; the place did not
    have a good "sit down and enjoy your food here" vibe.

    Perzackly

    The one in WF isn't exactly on the main drag either. There used to be a
    PDQ beside it; they recently closed and I've heard that a Cook Out is
    coming to fill the spot. Best thing I've heard about them is that they regularly have about 45 flavors of milkshakes, with special ones added seasonally.


    I never found food service to be "strenuous". Although at 82 all those hours on my feet and the hustling food would probably do me in. I'd
    have to settle for sitting o a tall stool and running the ca$h
    register.

    You're on your feet for long hours, careful when carrying the tray that you don't trip, bump into anything, etc. After I did my knee in while
    in college, I couldn't take a job like that any more.

    Some of those servers (I almost used the "sexist" girls) are amazing.
    I see them with four or five dinners at a time, spread up both arms
    from
    wrist to ....... and delivered to table without spilling a noodle.

    I've seen that too. Also seen in Raleigh at one place we've stopped at
    where the waitress looks to be older than me--but she keeps hustling.


    8<----- MAPLE SIRUP DRAINED ----->8


    They're just as good as the brushed aluminum; when we started buying
    them, the aluminum handle was on all the pieces we wanted but for the utility knife. Bought the composite handle for that, found another
    outlet in West Amana, IA a couple of years ago. BTW, we were introduced
    to Rada by our friend that passed away in PA about 3 weeks ago & we
    bought most of our knives at Amish or Mennonite stores up there.

    I would expect the quality to be similar.

    My "sharps" are a mish-mash of Wusthof, Henkels, a Viktoronix 8"
    chef's knifw I scored for U$1 at a flea market and some Santoku DD>
    Japanese knives. But, my overall most used/go to knife is an old "Old
    Hickory" butcher's knife. It has a 10" forged steel blade, riveted
    wood handle and I keep it sharp with my whet stone and steel hone.

    I've got a Henkels chef's knife I picked up in Savannah, a couple of Victorinox paring knives (one straight, one serrated) and a small Victorinox bread knife I got at a small hardware store in Gruendelwald, Switzerland for a few francs each. Plus a wooden handle santoku
    (Steve's favorite) that he got at H Mart in MD at our first echo
    picnic, a cleaver and a boning knife from a cheap set (only pieces
    worth keeping of about 20 knives) we got in HI and a few other odds and ends of knives. For years my favorite knife was a squared off blade
    chef's type knife I got for $1. at a yard sale in San Angelo, TX. It
    had a plastic handle that Steve patched several times over the years
    until we got the chef's knife about 24 years later.

    Mine are, as I said, an American 'melting pot' for home ports and
    makers. Just went and looked and my paring knife (which gets little/no
    use these days) is an Old Hickory like my butcher's knife. Peelnh,
    paring vegetables and fruits is mostly done with an OXO Good Grips
    peeler. And where the


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Apr 6 05:23:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Panera soups are quite good. As long as I can treat them like a Fats
    Food joint I've no problem. But I dob't care for them as a sit-down restaurant.

    No, we took our meal to go the last time we went; the place did not
    have a good "sit down and enjoy your food here" vibe.

    Perzackly

    The one in WF isn't exactly on the main drag either. There used to be a PDQ beside it; they recently closed and I've heard that a Cook Out is coming to fill the spot. Best thing I've heard about them is that they regularly have about 45 flavors of milkshakes, with special ones added seasonally.

    'Nother chicken joint bites the dust. Long as you've got a Popeyes you're
    in good shape. Bv)=

    I never found food service to be "strenuous". Although at 82 all those hours on my feet and the hustling food would probably do me in. I'd
    have to settle for sitting o a tall stool and running the ca$h
    register.

    You're on your feet for long hours, careful when carrying the tray that you don't trip, bump into anything, etc. After I did my knee in while
    in college, I couldn't take a job like that any more.

    Some of those servers (I almost used the "sexist" girls) are amazing.
    I see them with four or five dinners at a time, spread up both arms
    from wrist to ....... and delivered to table without spilling a noodle.

    I've seen that too. Also seen in Raleigh at one place we've stopped at where the waitress looks to be older than me--but she keeps hustling.

    In almost every non-chain place here there is one server who is the #1
    of the staff. There is a lady at Parkway Cafe who seems to be everywhere, taking care of the tables plus picking up the slack for other servers.
    And I have seen patrons split their tip between their server and her.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Diner Steak Burger
    Categories: Beef, Sandwiches
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Beefsteak; ground, no more
    - than 20% fat
    Oregano & basil; mixed,
    - crumbled
    6 Standard hamburger buns;
    - seeds optional
    6 sl Onion; 1/8" or less thick
    6 sl Red, ripe tomato
    Dill pickle chips
    6 sl American cheese; opt
    6 Leaves iceberg lettuce

    MMMMM-------------------------CONDIMENTS------------------------------
    Salt & Pepper
    Yellow mustard
    Mayonnaise
    Catsup
    Steak sauce

    Divide ground steak into 6 equal balls. Flatten into
    patties between two sheets of wax paper or plastic wrap.
    Make patties slightly larger than the diameter of the
    bun.

    Heat a large skillet over medium heat. Put a pat of
    butter on the skillet and lay a patty on top of it.
    Sprinkle a pinch of the oregano and basil mixture on
    top of the meat. Place a small ice cube on top of the
    patty and cover with a lid that will fit inside the
    skillet and over the burger. Flip patty over only once
    during frying, fry (medium) only long enough for juices
    to start running clear. Over cooking will toughen and
    dry the meat.

    Using a standard size bun; on the top half of the sliced
    bun, add 1 slice tomato, next 1 thin slice onion, then
    one leaf of lettuce and the pickle chips (slice of
    American cheese is optional,) finally the still hot
    cooked patty and other half of the bun, turn burger to
    right-side-up, add a handful of potato chips and one
    wedge of a dill pickle (if you don't want to use the
    pickle chips on the sandwich) to the plate.

    Condiments on table should be, salt and pepper shaker,
    mustard, ketchup, mayonnaise and steak sauce.

    Makes 6 sandwiches

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Apr 6 14:24:38 2024
    Hi Dave,


    The one in WF isn't exactly on the main drag either. There used to be a PDQ beside it; they recently closed and I've heard that a Cook Out is coming to fill the spot. Best thing I've heard about them is that they regularly have about 45 flavors of milkshakes, with special ones added seasonally.

    'Nother chicken joint bites the dust. Long as you've got a Popeyes
    you're in good shape. Bv)=

    This one was more like Chick-Fil-A, but not as good. When they first
    opened, they had a blueberry cole slaw which was pretty good. We'd not
    been there in some years when we went a couple of years ago and found
    that the cole slaw had been taken off the menu. As for Popeyes--the
    nearest one is Raleigh; we do have a couple of Bojangles in town but we
    prefer Popeyes.


    Some of those servers (I almost used the "sexist" girls) are amazing.
    I see them with four or five dinners at a time, spread up both arms
    from wrist to ....... and delivered to table without spilling a noodle.

    I've seen that too. Also seen in Raleigh at one place we've stopped at where the waitress looks to be older than me--but she keeps hustling.

    In almost every non-chain place here there is one server who is the #1
    of the staff. There is a lady at Parkway Cafe who seems to be
    everywhere, taking care of the tables plus picking up the slack for
    other servers.
    And I have seen patrons split their tip between their server and her.

    Sounds like one lady who earns her pay, and tips.

    Last night Steve stopped at a new-ish smokehouse and smoothies place.
    They were all out of sides but for baked beans but he got about 1/4 lb
    pulled pork and a brisket sandwich. I took not quite half of the pork, a
    good couple of forkfuls of the brisket and an onion (non fried) ring & a
    couple of pickles, plus the bun top. The meat was good but a little bit
    on the dry side, probably because it was the end of the day's out put.
    I'd go back, doing so during the day when I could try some of the sides.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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