• sleep tracker smartwatches.. anyone?

    From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to All on Sat May 28 23:38:00 2022
    Anyone here have one of those smartwatches that is primarily
    designed as a fitness tracker and sleep tracker?

    On a whim while visiting an electronics shop for something
    else, one particular type of watch was on display for $55CDN.
    Sleep tracking was an included feature. Recently, I have been
    curious about monitoring my own sleep after a friend of mine
    started sharing the screenshots of the results from a
    Fitbit(tm). A Fitbit is clearly beyond my price range, but the
    ones in the electronics shop seemed reasonable to try.

    The one I have is the ID205L. It's corresponding "app" is
    Letsfit(tm).

    It's a reasonable device for the price, but sleep tracking
    seems to be skewed and/or limited to recording from 3a to 7a
    only! :( I'm wondering if anyone else is familiar with such a
    problem.

    The device has a sleep "range" that I can specify and confirm.
    The default was/is 11p-7a. That was fine and I left it that
    way. But the sleep record only seems to kick in closer to 3a
    each time. Two recordings for the last two nights were like
    that. Total sleep time recorded was 3hrs 50min or 4hr 30min,
    which makes no sense!

    Meanwhile, I've set the device for a sleep range of 6p-7a. Not
    sure if that will make a difference in the logging period.

    Since then, I'v studied the important concerns on how to wear
    one of things properly. Hoping that there will be a difference

    Anyone familiar with the ID205L? Many companies seem to re-
    brand the device with different names.
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sun May 29 10:55:07 2022
    Hi August,

    On 2022-05-28 23:38:00, you wrote to All:

    The device has a sleep "range" that I can specify and confirm.
    The default was/is 11p-7a. That was fine and I left it that
    way. But the sleep record only seems to kick in closer to 3a
    each time. Two recordings for the last two nights were like
    that. Total sleep time recorded was 3hrs 50min or 4hr 30min,
    which makes no sense!

    Maybe you are sleepwalking? ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun May 29 07:57:00 2022
    Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

    ** On Sunday 29.05.22 - 10:55, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to August Abolins:

    ..Total sleep time recorded was 3hrs 50min or 4hr 30min,
    which makes no sense!

    Maybe you are sleepwalking? ;-)

    And, maybe you are dreaming! LOL

    THIS morning the reading seemed more reasonable.

    https://susepaste.org/99731580


    Perhaps the new/proper placement of the watch..

    https://susepaste.org/26542669


    ...instead of this:

    https://susepaste.org/33351467


    ...and a notch tighter than I would have liked made all the
    difference:

    https://susepaste.org/2201182





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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to August Abolins on Sun May 29 08:07:00 2022
    August Abolins wrote to All <=-

    Anyone here have one of those smartwatches that is primarily
    designed as a fitness tracker and sleep tracker?


    I still use a FitBit Flex 2. I wear a traditional watch on my non-dominant wrist, and the flex on my dominant wrist. I think the term I read was
    "polite computing", where technology is there to assist without being disruptive.

    It's got 5 LEDs and a vibration feature. If you tap it, it'll tell you how what fraction of your step count you've met so far. It'll vibrate to wake
    you silently, to remind you to move every hour, and when you get a text message. Otherwise, it's unobtrusive.

    It also tracks sleep pretty well, although it doesn't do heart rate
    monitoring and can't track what level of sleep you're in.

    I'll be sad when it dies, they haven't made them for a couple of years.


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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.2 to Kurt Weiske on Mon May 30 14:54:00 2022
    *** Quoting Kurt Weiske from a message to August Abolins ***

    I still use a FitBit Flex 2. I wear a traditional watch on my
    non-dominant wrist, and the flex on my dominant wrist.

    It also tracks sleep pretty well, although it doesn't do heart rate monitoring and can't track what level of sleep you're in.

    I had the Fitbit One for several years. I liked it because it was a step counter that wasn't on your wrist, you could clip it to your belt or the inside of a pocket and was basically out of the way.

    When it came time to track sleep you used a soft wrist band and placed the Fitbit One into that on your non-dominant wrist. It had a small OLED screen and one button on it to show you your steps, stairs climbed, etc. I liked
    the sleep tracking feature, though I'm not sure I got much out of it.

    I really like the alarm clock feature of it, since you were wearing it on
    your wrist it could vibrate when it was time to wake you up and be less
    likely to disturb your partner.

    I'll be sad when it dies, they haven't made them for a couple of
    years.

    That's what happened to mine, the battery no longer held a charge, and it wasn't user replaceable. Now I have the Apple Watch, but it's much too bulky to wear to bed.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Jay Harris on Mon May 30 18:17:00 2022
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Monday 30.05.22 - 14:54, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

    I had the Fitbit One for several years. I liked it [...]

    [...] the battery no longer held a charge, and it wasn't
    user replaceable. Now I have the Apple Watch, but it's
    much too bulky to wear to bed.

    How long is "several years"? It's a shame that a perfectly
    good device has to declare end-of-life just because of the
    internal battery.

    I have an iPod 2nd gen 8GB that holds a charge for almost 2
    weeks on standby and occassional use. Conversely, I have a
    newer 4th gen 32GB that barely lasts a 7 days on standby.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Kurt Weiske on Mon May 30 18:25:00 2022
    Hello Kurt!

    ** On Sunday 29.05.22 - 08:07, you wrote to me:

    I still use a FitBit Flex 2. I wear a traditional watch on
    my non-dominant wrist, and the flex on my dominant wrist.
    I think the term I read was "polite computing", where
    technology is there to assist without being disruptive.

    I don't think I'd want wrists full of too much stuff. :/


    It's got 5 LEDs and a vibration feature. [...]

    Based on the design according what I found out, I see why you
    are encouraged to still wear a traditional watch! LOL.


    I'll be sad when it dies, they haven't made them for a
    couple of years.

    How long have you used it now?

    I like the look and operation of the ID205L (Letsfit). It
    doesn't scream "Hey.. look at me! I'm a fitness tracker/watch!"

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.2 to August Abolins on Mon May 30 19:31:44 2022
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Jay Harris ***

    How long is "several years"? It's a shame that a perfectly good
    device has to declare end-of-life just because of the internal
    battery.

    I think I got about 3.5 years out of it, not too bad, but you're right that it's a shame that a device needs to be recycled just because the battry no longer holds a charge.

    I liked that it was on my hip as it seemed more actuate for step counting. I remember trying out a wrist mounted one around that time and got about 200 steps just for typing an email.

    I wanted to buy another one but by then they had discontinued that model in favour of the new wrist mounted models.

    That being said, my Apple watch seems to be pretty accurate for a wrist mounted step counter.


    Jay

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Jay Harris on Mon May 30 19:51:00 2022
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Monday 30.05.22 - 19:31, you wrote:

    I liked that it was on my hip as it seemed more actuate
    for step counting. I remember trying out a wrist mounted
    one around that time and got about 200 steps just for
    typing an email.

    The ID205L (letsfit) watch-style is surprisingly accurate.
    There are about 28 to 32 steps from my desk at the front of the
    shop to the coffee machine at the back depending on what floor
    display I navigate around. The watch gets it right each and
    every time.

    That being said, my Apple watch seems to be pretty
    accurate for a wrist mounted step counter.

    I'm not familiar with the Apple watches.. but are they strictly
    watches then? (ie. no fitness tracking at all?)
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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Mon May 30 21:03:22 2022
    On 30 May 2022, August Abolins said the following...

    I'm not familiar with the Apple watches.. but are they strictly
    watches then? (ie. no fitness tracking at all?)

    They all do some form of health tracking. Mine (Series 5) has a heart rate monitor, ECG, step counting. Newer versions also have blood oxygen sensors as well.

    They also have "Fall Detection" so if you fall & pass out it can automatically call emergency services. It can also warn you if you're around loud noises too long which could damage hearing. There also mindfulness reminders and of course the sleep tracking.

    On top of that, I have my debit & credit card on my watch so I can just tap that to pay for things. All-in-all a pretty handy device.


    Jay

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Jay Harris on Tue May 31 23:29:00 2022
    Hello Jay Harris!

    ** On Monday 30.05.22 - 21:03, you wrote:

    They all do some form of health tracking. Mine (Series 5)
    has a heart rate monitor, ECG, step counting. Newer
    versions also have blood oxygen sensors as well.

    A friend has volunteered to swap watches/trackers with me for
    about 4 days. We'll see if he gets the same 2:30-7a-ONLY sleep
    record with the ID205L that I did.

    Meanwhile, I'll be wearing a Fitbit Charge 4. Ret. $149.

    https://susepaste.org/93406117


    They also have "Fall Detection" so if you fall & pass out
    it can automatically call emergency services. It can also
    warn you if you're around loud noises too long which could
    damage hearing. There also mindfulness reminders and of
    course the sleep tracking.

    I suppose that's can be good (obviously for seniors) ..but also
    perhaps for a hiker.


    On top of that, I have my debit & credit card on my watch
    so I can just tap that to pay for things. All-in-all a
    pretty handy device.

    I see a lot more people settling a POS payment using the
    touchless tech using a phone. I assume that's an ApplePay
    exclusive feature.

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Wed Jun 1 06:08:54 2022
    On 31 May 2022, August Abolins said the following...

    I see a lot more people settling a POS payment using the
    touchless tech using a phone. I assume that's an ApplePay
    exclusive feature.

    Android has that as well. A few years back I used GooglePay on both my watch and phone when I was still in the Android ecosystem.


    Jay

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to August Abolins on Tue May 31 07:09:00 2022
    August Abolins wrote to Jay Harris <=-

    Hello Jay!

    ** On Monday 30.05.22 - 14:54, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

    I had the Fitbit One for several years. I liked it [...]

    [...] the battery no longer held a charge, and it wasn't
    user replaceable. Now I have the Apple Watch, but it's
    much too bulky to wear to bed.

    How long is "several years"? It's a shame that a perfectly
    good device has to declare end-of-life just because of the
    internal battery.

    I thought he was talking about the fitbit Flip, another belt-clip tracker. I had one at first, and it took CR2032 batteries. Wasteful, yes, but the local dollar store had them for something like 10 cents each.




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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to August Abolins on Tue May 31 07:11:00 2022
    August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    I don't think I'd want wrists full of too much stuff. :/

    Watch on one wrist, fitbit, wooden bead nala bracelet, and maybe a thin leather bracelet on the other - I'm ready for Yoga pants in public and a Man Bun.

    :)




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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.2 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 1 20:49:38 2022
    *** Quoting Kurt Weiske from a message to August Abolins ***

    I thought he was talking about the fitbit Flip, another belt-clip
    tracker. I had one at first, and it took CR2032 batteries. Wasteful,
    yes, but the local dollar store had them for something like 10 cents each.

    I tried that one for a short time after, I think it was called the Fitbit Zip here. It was around the time they were having some bluetooth issues with iPhones and would drain the battery in about a week. It's probably fixed by now, but replacing a coin battery once a week certainly did seem wasteful.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 1 22:57:00 2022
    Hello Kurt!

    ** On Tuesday 31.05.22 - 07:09, you wrote:

    Amazfit makes some nice, inexpensive trackers that look
    like that - long battery life, too. I think the Fit had a
    3 week battery life?

    I've never looked beyond Fitbit for these things. There is
    certainly quite a huge variety of makers, re-branders, and
    designs.


    Amazfit also makes one called the Neo that looks like an
    old-school Casio watch but still does notification, step
    tracking and alarms.

    I had a "real" Casio at one time. Back then, the hourly chime
    seemed like a cool feature to keep me focused and aware of the
    time.

    I stopped wearing watches over 12 years ago. Since my little
    foray into fitness trackers, now I remember why. I simply got
    tired of the strangled feeling of wearing a rubberized band,
    and any bulkiness of a watch that scrapes and damages a shirt
    cuff.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 1 23:03:00 2022
    Hello Kurt!

    ** On Tuesday 31.05.22 - 07:11, you wrote:

    Watch on one wrist, fitbit, wooden bead nala bracelet, and
    maybe a thin leather bracelet on the other - I'm ready for
    Yoga pants in public and a Man Bun.

    :)

    LOL.

    Since lockdowns, I've let my hair grow. I can probably fashion
    a couple of man buns on each side of my head. I think I'm
    gonna have to cut it off before summer ends. It's becoming a
    shore to keep it done up and tidy.

    And.. I still prefer a nice naked wrist.
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