• Is there a www vector for Element/Matrix?

    From August Abolins@2:460/256 to All on Wed Oct 27 18:04:55 2021
    Hi All,
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    Is there a www vector for Element/Matrix?

    My Element prog is not loading on my Win7 pc (since 2 days ago). Meanwhile I was wondering if there was a web version like discord provides?

    Ciao!
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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to August Abolins on Thu Oct 28 12:05:00 2021
    Am 27.10.21 schrieb August Abolins@2:460/256 in CHAT:

    Hallo August,

    Is there a www vector for Element/Matrix?

    My Element prog is not loading on my Win7 pc (since 2 days ago). Meanwhile I was wondering if there was a web version like discord provides?

    Do you mean something like http://app.element.io ?

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Anna Christina Nass on Thu Oct 28 08:11:00 2021
    Hello Anna!

    ** On Thursday 28.10.21 - 12:05, you wrote to me:

    Is there a www vector for Element/Matrix?
    My Element prog is not loading on my Win7 pc (since 2 days ago).

    Do you mean something like http://app.element.io ?

    That's the one, exactly. Thanks. I thought I stumbled upon it
    months ago, but never used it (hence, it was long gone in my
    browser History).

    Meanwhile I unistalled the thing (ie Element) from that
    particular pc. It was serving as an unneeded distraction at my
    work anyway.

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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to August Abolins on Fri Oct 29 10:43:00 2021
    Am 28.10.21 schrieb August Abolins@1:153/757.21 in CHAT:

    Hallo August,

    Is there a www vector for Element/Matrix?
    My Element prog is not loading on my Win7 pc (since 2 days ago).

    Do you mean something like http://app.element.io ?

    That's the one, exactly. Thanks.

    I'm glad I could help.

    Btw, you can install a web version of Element on any web server if you
    would like to self-host it. As it only is a JavaScript application, no
    PHP etc. is neccessary.
    Mine is on https://chat.imzadi.de/, for example :)
    You (and I) just have to keep up with updates ;-)

    Regards,
    Anna
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Anna Christina Nass on Fri Oct 29 21:30:00 2021
    Hello Anna Christina Nass!

    ** On Friday 29.10.21 - 10:43, you wrote to me:

    Btw, you can install a web version of Element on any web
    server if you would like to self-host it. As it only is a
    JavaScript application, no PHP etc. is neccessary. Mine
    is on https://chat.imzadi.de/, for example :) You (and I)
    just have to keep up with updates ;-)

    No php? I thought everything was pretty much governed by php
    these days. Are you hosting yours on your own local pc? Or,
    can this also be done at an ISP hosting account?

    I'm throttled down to about 23-58Kbps at his time until Nov 3.
    Your chat url is taking a really long time to respond. Maybe
    your pc is turned off? ..cuz it eventually told me that
    "Element is unable to load.."

    Meanwhile, I just learned of this:

    https://getsession.org

    I'm liking this one. It doesn't have fancy animated stickers,
    widgets, or voice calls, but as a pure text comms tool it's
    very nice primarly for the privacy that it promises. A voice
    message could be recorded and sent.

    It works very efficiently (even at 23Kbps! LOL)



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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 31 15:39:00 2021
    Am 29.10.21 schrieb August Abolins@1:153/757.21 in CHAT:

    Hallo August,

    Btw, you can install a web version of Element on any web
    server if you would like to self-host it. As it only is a
    JavaScript application, no PHP etc. is neccessary. Mine
    is on https://chat.imzadi.de/, for example :) You (and I)
    just have to keep up with updates ;-)

    No php? I thought everything was pretty much governed by php
    these days.

    :) I would say that the days of "everything is PHP" are over, as more
    and more stuff is JavaScript, either on the client or via node.js...
    And I don't like that :)

    Are you hosting yours on your own local pc? Or,
    can this also be done at an ISP hosting account?

    I'm hosting it on one of my vServers that I've rented.
    It is running apache on Devuan Linux.

    Just have a look at element.io for more information about hosting it.

    I'm throttled down to about 23-58Kbps at his time until Nov 3.
    Your chat url is taking a really long time to respond. Maybe
    your pc is turned off? ..cuz it eventually told me that
    "Element is unable to load.."

    As it is running on a VPS, I don't think that it's offline.
    Your connection might be a little too slow for a timeout in the code
    so that this message appears?!

    Meanwhile, I just learned of this: https://getsession.org
    I'm liking this one. It doesn't have fancy animated stickers,
    widgets, or voice calls, but as a pure text comms tool it's
    very nice primarly for the privacy that it promises. A voice
    message could be recorded and sent.
    It works very efficiently (even at 23Kbps! LOL)

    I hope that I don't have the need to start using yet another
    messenger... ;-)

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Anna Christina Nass on Sun Oct 31 18:49:00 2021
    Hello Anna Christina Nass!

    ** On Sunday 31.10.21 - 15:39, your wrote to me:

    Just have a look at element.io for more information about hosting it.

    I will.


    I'm throttled down to about 23-58Kbps at his time until Nov 3.

    As it is running on a VPS, I don't think that it's
    offline. Your connection might be a little too slow for a
    timeout in the code so that this message appears?!

    That is most certainly right. Even 93Kbps is not good enough.


    Meanwhile, I just learned of this: https://getsession.org
    I'm liking this one. It doesn't have fancy animated
    stickers, widgets, or voice calls, but as a pure text
    comms tool [...]

    I hope that I don't have the need to start using yet
    another messenger... ;-)

    Check it out. It's much easier to authorize and re-install and
    sync on another device than Element/Matrix. It is also very
    efficient wrt data throughput. It is very suitable for persons
    operating on restricted mobile data plans.

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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to August Abolins on Mon Nov 1 09:50:00 2021
    Am 31.10.21 schrieb August Abolins@1:153/757.21 in CHAT:

    Hallo August,

    As it is running on a VPS, I don't think that it's
    offline. Your connection might be a little too slow for a
    timeout in the code so that this message appears?!

    That is most certainly right. Even 93Kbps is not good enough.

    Oh okay... I hope that at least with a local installation (Linux,
    Windows, Mac desktop app or mobile app) it is usable at such a low
    speed. You don't have to use an online version...

    Meanwhile, I just learned of this: https://getsession.org
    I'm liking this one. It doesn't have fancy animated
    stickers, widgets, or voice calls, but as a pure text
    comms tool [...]

    I hope that I don't have the need to start using yet
    another messenger... ;-)

    Check it out. It's much easier to authorize and re-install and
    sync on another device than Element/Matrix. It is also very
    efficient wrt data throughput. It is very suitable for persons
    operating on restricted mobile data plans.

    That might be true, but you also have to know people who are also
    using it. And the 'market' for messenger services is very fragmented,
    so using yet another one is -at least for me- not an option at the
    moment.
    If I ever find some spare time, I will use MRC or IRC :)

    Regards,
    Anna
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