• FidoNet remembered on popular podcast by John C Dvorak and Adam Curry

    From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to All on Fri Dec 8 18:38:31 2023
    https://youtube.com/shorts/o5xkfR3vqEA?si=cOAMsU7QHJ3Xjjmb
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Swindell on Sat Dec 9 08:23:00 2023
    Hello Rob Swindell!

    ** On Friday 08.12.23 - 18:38, Rob Swindell wrote to All:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/o5xkfR3vqEA?si=cOAMsU7QHJ3Xjjmb

    And that's it? They didn't even refer to "netmail" properly and
    called it "email" :( Do they delve into Fidonet with more
    detail in the full program?

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to August Abolins on Sat Dec 9 15:53:58 2023
    Re: FidoNet remembered on popular podcast by John C Dvorak and Adam Curry
    By: August Abolins to Rob Swindell on Sat Dec 09 2023 08:23 am

    Hello Rob Swindell!

    ** On Friday 08.12.23 - 18:38, Rob Swindell wrote to All:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/o5xkfR3vqEA?si=cOAMsU7QHJ3Xjjmb

    And that's it? They didn't even refer to "netmail" properly and
    called it "email" :( Do they delve into Fidonet with more
    detail in the full program?

    No, that was pretty much it for that episode. There's been many other instances where they've remembered BBSing and FidoNet:
    https://nasearch.online/episode/516?q=fido%20net&st=alloftext&tab=transcript
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Swindell on Sat Dec 9 19:41:00 2023
    Hello Rob!

    And that's it? They didn't even refer to "netmail" properly
    and called it "email" :( Do they delve into Fidonet with
    more detail in the full program?

    No, that was pretty much it for that episode. There's been
    many other instances where they've remembered BBSing and FidoNet:https://nasearch.online/episode/
    516?q=fido%20net&st=alloftext&tab =transcript --

    Nothing worthy there. The search/transcript feature is
    interesting though. No hits for "fidonet", but 3 results for
    "fido net". That tech has a long way to go before it is useful
    for finding relevant text in a podcast.

    I used to listen to the No Agenda podcast more regularly in the
    past. But I stopped when it seemed you never knew what they
    would end up talking about. 1hr+ to 2hrs is a bit too long for
    a stream of conciousness chit chat. <g>

    There is far more relevant "Fidonet remembered.." content in a
    couple of recent books that I've mentioned in a few other
    echos.

    Listening to a couple of old guys misremembering what Fidonet
    is and is not can be a bit depressing actually. :/


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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to August Abolins on Sat Dec 9 17:14:40 2023
    Re: FidoNet remembered on popular podcast by John C Dvorak and Adam Curry
    By: August Abolins to Rob Swindell on Sat Dec 09 2023 07:41 pm

    Listening to a couple of old guys misremembering what Fidonet
    is and is not can be a bit depressing actually. :/

    I suppose, but at least it was impactful enough to still be remembered!

    Imagine Joe Rogan talking about FidoNet? A FidoNet mention on a podcast with a huge audience is notable, I think.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Swindell on Sun Dec 10 09:07:00 2023
    Hello Rob!

    Listening to a couple of old guys misremembering what
    Fidonet is and is not can be a bit depressing actually.
    :/

    I suppose, but at least it was impactful enough to still
    be remembered!

    But it was remembered poorly; they spoke of it as in the past
    tense. Fidonet not might be the bustling network that it used
    to be, but does Fidonet still need to be referred to in the
    past tense all the time? They didn't shed any knowledgable
    light that a modicum of it still exists and is supported by
    many BBSes.

    Imagine Joe Rogan talking about FidoNet? A FidoNet mention
    on a podcast with a huge audience is notable, I think. --

    Anyone discussing Fidonet shouldn't be referring to it in the
    past tense and should provide the resources to identify
    operating BBSes, the tools required for either a sysop or a
    user, etc.
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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to August Abolins on Sun Dec 10 08:46:00 2023
    August Abolins wrote to Rob Swindell <=-

    Listening to a couple of old guys misremembering what Fidonet
    is and is not can be a bit depressing actually. :/

    I know Adam Curry was slightly leading-edge in the '90s, I wonder if he
    ever had a node number?

    A nodelist lookup doesn't show anything.

    There have been some documentary efforts, we should really start
    capturing more of our history. Sysops have been passing away for some
    time.



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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Dec 10 19:18:00 2023
    Hello Kurt!

    I know Adam Curry was slightly leading-edge in the '90s..
    A nodelist lookup doesn't show anything.

    Yeah.. It seems that anyone who may have attained any kind of
    media status, seems to have little to nothing to say about
    Fidonet today. Leo Laporte (of TWiT podcast fame) seems to
    have had a Fidonet node for a couple of years 1986-1988 only.


    There have been some documentary efforts, we should really
    start capturing more of our history. Sysops have been
    passing away for some time.

    The book Modem World - A Prehistory of Social Media - by Kevin
    Driscoll, does a fine job analysing and presenting the matrix
    of online development including a modicum of reference to
    Fidonet and how, where and when it fit in the timeline of
    things.

    Isn't there a wiki page about Fidonet that seems to be the
    "documentary efforts" that you speak of?

    Perhaps there could be a better effort to announce that the
    Fidonet universe is still alive and kicking and *not* be spoken
    of in the past-tense all the time when someone "reviews"
    Fidonet.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Dec 10 19:52:00 2023
    There have been some documentary efforts, we should really
    start capturing more of our history. Sysops have been
    passing away for some time.

    The book Modem World - A Prehistory of Social Media - by Kevin
    Driscoll, does a fine job analysing and presenting the matrix
    of online development including a modicum of reference to
    Fidonet and how, where and when it fit in the timeline of
    things.


    BTW.. You can see portions of the book as a preview on Google Books: https://books.google.com/books?id=bYxhEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA001


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