• dumb terminal

    From Rick Smith@1:105/10 to All on Fri Jun 18 17:26:24 2021
    Greetings All!

    Is there a dumb terminal of sorts for the modern day binkd? Like a window open in a terminal where you can watch the doings of bink? I think I am remembering such a thing from back in the day with binkleyterm... I may be mistaken old age and all..



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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jun 19 12:50:53 2021
    Hi! Alan,

    On 18 Jun 2021, Alan Ianson said the following...

    I remember that display from binleyterm, 4 colour CGA or something.. :) I've often thought that one day someone would write some sort of
    graphical front end for binkd but I have never seen one.

    If you can point a DOS-like box at the BSO (via a network share, even), you could use Bonk (the old BSO util) to drive the outbound. Even a Binkley non-fossil task would do. Then there's the Argus trio: Argus, Radius, or Taurus. Probably more that I don't know of.

    :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Rick Smith on Sat Jun 19 15:34:53 2021
    On 18 Jun 2021 at 05:26p, Rick Smith pondered and said...

    Is there a dumb terminal of sorts for the modern day binkd? Like a
    window open in a terminal where you can watch the doings of bink? I
    think I am remembering such a thing from back in the day with

    Well I have a copy running in a terminal and use this to get it running.

    ./binkd -C binkd.cfg

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  • From Paul Quinn@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jun 19 07:25:03 2021
    Hi! Alan,

    On 06/19/2021 01:44 PM, you wrote:

    Even if there was a graphical front end I don't think I'd use it but I do get nostalgic for the old FD, Binkley and PoP days.. :)

    Me too. My itch is Radius but I can't do it; all Linux now.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rick Smith on Sat Jun 19 12:09:14 2021
    Hi Rick,

    On 2021-06-18 17:26:24, you wrote to All:

    Is there a dumb terminal of sorts for the modern day binkd? Like a
    window open in a terminal where you can watch the doings of bink? I
    think I am remembering such a thing from back in the day with binkleyterm... I may be mistaken old age and all..

    Nope, but since you are on linus:

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    You could do something like this:

    # tail -f binkd.log

    In a terminal of your choice. But lines will scroll by pretty fast and of the screen if there are sessions in progress. So you could combine it with something like:

    # tail -f binkd.log | egrep 'ing session | done '

    Or some other filtering for the lines you like to see...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Jun 19 12:45:44 2021
    # tail -f binkd.log | egrep 'ing session | done '

    Or some other filtering for the lines you like to see...

    I love it. But couldn't 'ing session |' in there clutter things up a wee bit? Wouldn't just egrep 'done (' suffice? Depends of course of what you want to see...

    I agree though with the previous writer, I'd love a GUI program that can sort out all the different information in the log file and present it in a humanly readable way.

    I started out once (in BP7), but came to the conclusion that it would be a Windows only program, so no use to most of the other binkd users. 8-)



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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Bj”rn Felten on Sat Jun 19 14:28:48 2021
    Hi Bj”rn,

    On 2021-06-19 12:45:44, you wrote to me:

    # tail -f binkd.log | egrep 'ing session | done '

    Or some other filtering for the lines you like to see...

    I love it. But couldn't 'ing session |' in there clutter things up a
    wee bit? Wouldn't just egrep 'done (' suffice? Depends of course of
    what you want to see...

    It was just an example so you see the begining and end of each outgoing and incoming session. Everyone could of course use a filter string to their own liking.

    I agree though with the previous writer, I'd love a GUI program that
    can sort out all the different information in the log file and present
    it in a humanly readable way.

    It is a server daemon. It's not customary to monitor those in realtime, it should just quitely do it's job! ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.3 to Rick Smith on Fri Jun 18 18:21:14 2021
    Is there a dumb terminal of sorts for the modern day binkd? Like a window open in a terminal where you can watch the doings of bink? I think I am remembering such a thing from back in the day with binkleyterm... I may be mistaken old age and all..

    I remember that display from binleyterm, 4 colour CGA or something.. :)

    I've often thought that one day someone would write some sort of graphical front end for binkd but I have never seen one.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.3 to Paul Quinn on Fri Jun 18 20:44:34 2021
    I remember that display from binleyterm, 4 colour CGA or something.. :)
    I've often thought that one day someone would write some sort of
    graphical front end for binkd but I have never seen one.

    If you can point a DOS-like box at the BSO (via a network share, even), you could use Bonk (the old BSO util) to drive the outbound. Even a Binkley non-fossil task would do.

    I only use one external app here, showold.pl to have a quick look at the outbound.

    Then there's the Argus trio: Argus, Radius, or Taurus. Probably more that
    I don't know of.

    I had a quick look at argus shortly after it was released. Quite impressive. I don't have a windows box here so I haven't been able to follow radius/taurus but from what I read they made some improvements.

    Even if there was a graphical front end I don't think I'd use it but I do get nostalgic for the old FD, Binkley and PoP days.. :)

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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Rick Smith on Sat Jun 19 21:49:58 2021
    Hello Rick.

    18 Jun 21 17:26, you wrote to All:

    Greetings All!

    Is there a dumb terminal of sorts for the modern day binkd? Like a
    window open in a terminal where you can watch the doings of bink? I
    think I am remembering such a thing from back in the day with binkleyterm... I may be mistaken old age and all..

    on my linux machine i'm running binkd in screen.. or you can just tail -f the log file :)

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    Daniel

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  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Björn Felten on Sun Jun 20 21:09:18 2021
    19 Jun 21 12:45:44, Björn Felten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    I agree though with the previous writer, I'd love a GUI program that can sort out all the different information in the log file and present it in a humanly readable way.

    I started out once (in BP7), but came to the conclusion that it
    would be a Windows only program, so no use to most of the other binkd users. 8-)

    Have a look at Free Pascal. It uses BP7 syntax and can build for Windows, OS/2, Linux, FreeBSD & MacOS.

    There is a CRT unit that can be used for text mode CUI apps, to display an output similar to BinkleyTerm's, though another option would be to just to output ANSI codes directly and let the Windows/OS2/*NIX terminal interpret them.

    For cross-platform GUI apps there's the Free Pascal GUI toolkit, fpGUI. Or you can use Lazarus, which is basically an open source version of Borland Delphi.

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