some binkp capable mailers send PHN with their phone/domain/IP...

binkd doesn't appear to have this capability...

it would be nice if a config verb "phone" or similar was introduced so we could configure binkd to transmit this information... it would be beneficial for those who study the binkd log output to check on operation and to find problems that may exist... this would be a freeform field like sysname, location, and sysop... granted it won't affect the operation of binkd but then neither does sysname, location, or sysop ;)

eg:
sysname "Ivan's BBS"
location "Magadan, Russia"
sysop "Ivan Ivanov"
phone "binkd.some.domain.invalid"

if the "phone" verb exists and contains data, send it to the remote as

PHN binkd.some.domain.invalid

otherwise, do not send it at all...

thank you for your attention and consideration :)

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Hello mark,

On Tuesday June 18 2019 10:34, you wrote to all:

some binkp capable mailers send PHN with their phone/domain/IP...

binkd doesn't appear to have this capability...

It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

it would be nice if a config verb "phone" or similar was introduced so
we could configure binkd to transmit this information... it would be

Seems to me, what you request is already covered by the nodeinfo keyword.


Cheers, Michiel

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some binkp capable mailers send PHN with their phone/domain/IP...

binkd doesn't appear to have this capability...

It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

I don't think it is the same thing...

Taurus shows NDL and PHN. How can you do that with Binkd?

=== Cut ===
18:34 [5376] creating a poll for 2:221/6@fidonet (`d' flavour)
18:34 [5376] clientmgr started
18:34 [7976] call to 2:221/6@fidonet
18:34 [7976] trying cow.mine.nu [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6]:24555...
18:34 [7976] connected
18:34 [7976] outgoing session with cow.mine.nu:24555 [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:
18:34 [7976] OPT HLZ PLZ GZ LST UTF CRYPT
18:34 [7976] Remote supports GZ mode
18:34 [7976] Remote requests CRYPT mode
18:34 [7976] OPT CRAM-MD5-4785ed5a2d3f817a67b854879bcaf9a3
18:34 [7976] Remote requests MD mode
18:34 [7976] SYS COW, TCP/IP 2
18:34 [7976] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
18:34 [7976] LOC Lake Ylo, Finland
18:34 [7976] PHN cow.mine.nu
18:34 [7976] NDL CM,MO,IFC,ITN:60177,IBN:24555
18:34 [7976] TIME Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:34:12 +0300
18:34 [7976] VER Taurus/5.114.2013.19/Summer/Win32 binkp/1.1
18:34 [7976] addr: 2:221/6@fidonet
18:34 [7976] OPT EXTCMD
18:34 [7976] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
18:34 [7976] done (to 2:221/6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
18:34 [7976] session closed, quitting...
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'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday June 18 2019 18:37, you wrote to me:

It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

I don't think it is the same thing...

Taurus shows NDL and PHN. How can you do that with Binkd?

Look in the binkd log of 221/360 for an incoming call fom 280/5556


Cheers, Michiel

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It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

I don't think it is the same thing...

Taurus shows NDL and PHN. How can you do that with Binkd?

Look in the binkd log of 221/360 for an incoming call fom 280/5556

No PHN line.

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18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] incoming session with 83-85-196-105.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.85.196.105]
- 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] SYS Nieuw Schnoord IPv6 test node
- 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
- 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] LOC Driebergen, NL
- 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] NDL CM,MO,IBN:5556.vlist.eu,IPv6,INO4,PHN:here.useless.info
- 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] TIME Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:32:40 +0200
- 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] VER binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 18 Jun 19:32:35 [35336] addr: 2:280/5556@fidonet
=== Cut ===

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday June 18 2019 20:40, you wrote to me:

280/5556

No PHN line.

NDL CM,MO,IBN:5556.vlist.eu,IPv6,INO4,PHN:here.useless.info

The info that mark wanted to convey is there.


Cheers, Michiel

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On 2019 Jun 18 16:58:36, you wrote to me:

some binkp capable mailers send PHN with their phone/domain/IP...

binkd doesn't appear to have this capability...

It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

nodeinfo generally carries the nodelist flags and connection speed...

it would be nice if a config verb "phone" or similar was introduced
so we could configure binkd to transmit this information... it would
be

Seems to me, what you request is already covered by the nodeinfo keyword.

not really...

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Hello mark,

On Tuesday June 18 2019 15:46, you wrote to me:

binkd doesn't appear to have this capability...

It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

nodeinfo generally carries the nodelist flags and connection speed...

The PhoneNumber is not nodelist information?

it would be nice if a config verb "phone" or similar was
introduced so we could configure binkd to transmit this
information... it would be

Seems to me, what you request is already covered by the nodeinfo
keyword.

not really...

What you requested was that binkd could be configured tp transmit the information. "nodeinfo" can do that. All that is needed is that the sysops adds the iformation to the "nodeinfo" line in his/her binkd config.


Cheers, Michiel

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On 2019 Jun 18 22:17:04, you wrote to me:

binkd doesn't appear to have this capability...

It has the "nodeinfo" config verb. It is a free form field.

nodeinfo generally carries the nodelist flags and connection speed...

The PhoneNumber is not nodelist information?

i'm working only with the binkd logs and analyzing them... i'm asking for a small feature request so that binkd can transmit PHN like other systems... if i could figure out how to add it to the code myself, i'd never have posted here... furrfu...

Seems to me, what you request is already covered by the nodeinfo
keyword.

not really...

What you requested was that binkd could be configured tp transmit the information. "nodeinfo" can do that. All that is needed is that the

sysops

adds the iformation to the "nodeinfo" line in his/her binkd config.

that does not cause binkd to transmit a PHN line like other systems do... how hard is this to understand???? :sigh:

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Hello mark,

On Tuesday June 18 2019 17:53, you wrote to me:

What you requested was that binkd could be configured tp transmit
the information. "nodeinfo" can do that. All that is needed is
that the sysops adds the iformation to the "nodeinfo" line in
his/her binkd config.

that does not cause binkd to transmit a PHN line like other systems
do... how hard is this to understand???? :sigh:

The PHN line obviously is a relic from the POTS age. The "phone" keyword in the config crearly indicate that it was meant for the phone number.

Binkd is the leading binkp implementation. Instead of sheepishly following others it should lead. Progress is not just adding new stuff, it is also getting rid of archaic ballast. Binkd does not use phone numbers. The PHN line is archaic ballast. The makers of binkp were wise to ommit it. Using it for IP information is improper use. The proper place for IP information is the NDL line. That is were the capability flags are and IP info is conveyed as parameter in an IP related flag. Like this:

nodeinfo CM,MO,IBN:fido.vlist.eu,RPK,NPK,ENC,NC,PING,IPv6

The PHN line is archaic ballast. IP info belongs in de NDL line.

How hard is that to understand? <sigh>


Cheers, Michiel

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On 2019 Jun 19 12:17:06, you wrote to me:

What you requested was that binkd could be configured tp transmit
the information. "nodeinfo" can do that. All that is needed is
that the sysops adds the iformation to the "nodeinfo" line in
his/her binkd config.

that does not cause binkd to transmit a PHN line like other systems
do... how hard is this to understand???? :sigh:

The PHN line obviously is a relic from the POTS age.

PLONK!

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Hi mark.

19 Jun 19 11:24:18, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

PLONK!

:D :D

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20:11 [17428] call to 2:221/360@fidonet
20:11 [17428] trying f360.n221.z2.binkp.net [88.114.128.38]...
20:11 [17428] connected
20:11 [17428] outgoing session with f360.n221.z2.binkp.net:24554 [88.114.128.38]
20:11 [17428] OPT CRAM-MD5-97fe33d255c219bbd6877c3b087182ee
20:11 [17428] Remote requests MD mode
20:11 [17428] SYS RBB/2
20:11 [17428] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
20:11 [17428] LOC Lake Ylo, Finland
20:11 [17428] NDL IBN,CM
20:11 [17428] PHN rbb.fidonet.fi
20:11 [17428] TIME Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:11:26 +0300
20:11 [17428] VER binkd/1.1a-99.1/OS2 binkp/1.1
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/0@fidonet
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/1@fidonet
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/360@fidonet
=== Cut ===

There. :)

'Tommi

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On 2019 Jun 19 20:12:08, you wrote to me:

20:11 [17428] SYS RBB/2
20:11 [17428] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
20:11 [17428] LOC Lake Ylo, Finland
20:11 [17428] NDL IBN,CM
20:11 [17428] PHN rbb.fidonet.fi
20:11 [17428] TIME Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:11:26 +0300
20:11 [17428] VER binkd/1.1a-99.1/OS2 binkp/1.1
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/0@fidonet
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/1@fidonet
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/360@fidonet
=== Cut ===

There. :)

8) :) :) :)

patch please! i'm currently running "binkd/1.1a-99/Linux binkp/1.1" freshly compiled from the repo in the last few days...

i'm guessing this setting will also show up in the settings dump via "binkd -v"?

i actually took some time and scanned over the code to try to figure out where this would be inserted... i'm just not a C/C++ coder so some of these types of things are just beyond my capabilities... i probably should have used grep and hunted down "VER" instead of stumbling through trying to follow the code flow...

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Hi mark.

19 Jun 19 14:21:04, you wrote to me:

On 2019 Jun 19 20:12:08, you wrote to me:

20:11 [17428] SYS RBB/2
20:11 [17428] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
20:11 [17428] LOC Lake Ylo, Finland
20:11 [17428] NDL IBN,CM
20:11 [17428] PHN rbb.fidonet.fi
20:11 [17428] TIME Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:11:26 +0300
20:11 [17428] VER binkd/1.1a-99.1/OS2 binkp/1.1
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/0@fidonet
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/1@fidonet
20:11 [17428] addr: 2:221/360@fidonet
=== Cut ===

There. :)

8) :) :) :)

patch please!

The only thing I did was adding one line to protocol.c :

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msg_send2 (state, M_NUL, "SYS ", config->sysname);
msg_send2 (state, M_NUL, "ZYZ ", config->sysop);
msg_send2 (state, M_NUL, "LOC ", config->location);
msg_send2 (state, M_NUL, "NDL ", config->nodeinfo);
msg_send2 (state, M_NUL, "PHN ", "rbb.fidonet.fi");
=== Cut ===

The last one. Just for testing. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello mark,

Wednesday June 19 2019, mark lewis wrote to Tommi Koivula:

20:11 [17428] PHN ...

patch please!

:-) I wouldn't use it. It resembles a Russian word meaning a crime boss. :)

Michael

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On 19 Jun 19 22:28:00, Michael Dukelsky said the following to Mark Lewis:

patch please!

:-) I wouldn't use it. It resembles a Russian word meaning a crime boss.

:)

Lol, a Russian "crime boss" is someone who runs a vodka racket.

Nick

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On 2019 Jun 19 21:48:58, you wrote to me:

patch please!

The only thing I did was adding one line to protocol.c :

i woke up this morning with the realization that you might have hard-coded it like that... gave myself a good laugh :)

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On 2019 Jun 19 22:28:00, you wrote to me:

20:11 [17428] PHN ...

patch please!

:-) I wouldn't use it. It resembles a Russian word meaning a crime boss.

:)

what does? PHN? pakhan? hummm...

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