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  • Re: Fidonet Beginner

    From Netsurge@1:229/101 to metalhead on Fri Mar 13 13:41:30 2020
    So, I want to "obtain a current nodelist" so that I can send mail (my request to join) but where can I find the nodelist? I checked the
    Fidonet website, and it has "Nodelist History Lookup," but I don't know what to type in there, I tried a few sysop real names that I know of,
    but it doesn't find them.

    Most Fidonet member systems carry the fileecho that distributes it. I have it up on my system, feel free to login and download it. You can also grab it
    from filegate.net. I think the file echo is called NODELIST.

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  • From metalhead@1:229/101 to All on Fri Mar 13 12:37:56 2020
    I've been a BBS sysop on and off for the past 30 years. One thing that I've never accomplished is setting up a message network such as Fidonet.

    I'm using Mystic BBS, which appears to make the whole process easier than in the old days, and I'm in the middle of reading the Fido policy4 file.

    So, I want to "obtain a current nodelist" so that I can send mail (my request to join) but where can I find the nodelist? I checked the Fidonet website,
    and it has "Nodelist History Lookup," but I don't know what to type in there,
    I tried a few sysop real names that I know of, but it doesn't find them.

    If anyone feels like sharing advice on this with me, please do, and thank you!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Netsurge on Sat Mar 14 10:33:50 2020
    So, I want to "obtain a current nodelist" so that I can send mail (my

    from filegate.net. I think the file echo is called NODELIST.

    Thanks!

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to metalhead on Sat Mar 14 17:08:46 2020
    So, I want to "obtain a current nodelist" so that I can send mail (my request to join) but where can I find the nodelist? I checked the
    Fidonet website, and it has "Nodelist History Lookup," but I don't know what to type in there, I tried a few sysop real names that I know of,
    but it doesn't find them.

    Feel free to come over here to get a current nodelist from my file base. Just log on/off & get back on a while later to let me update your access. Let me know you run a board & will update you to visiting sysop level. I have no ratios & knock yourself out if you find something else.

    Others in FidoNet should also have the current nodelist available.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/09 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-W.Coyote & D.Brown are our best users. (1:340/1000)
  • From metalhead@1:229/101 to Don Lowery on Sun Mar 15 11:34:26 2020
    Feel free to come over here to get a current nodelist from my file base.

    Thank you, I appreciate it. I managed to get the nodelist, and now I'm trying to figure out how to send netmail from my Mystic BBS to do my node request.

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to metalhead on Sun Mar 15 23:08:43 2020
    Feel free to come over here to get a current nodelist from my file
    ba
    Thank you, I appreciate it. I managed to get the nodelist, and now I'm trying to figure out how to send netmail from my Mystic BBS to do my
    node request.

    Set up your node as *:*/999...compile your nodelist to get the info you need into Mystic with MUTIL...information listed where the nodelist is located in
    I believe MAILIN.INI. Any time we see a 999 listed...just means someone got
    it configured...but doesn't have a node number yet.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/09 (Windows/32)
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Mon Mar 16 13:52:16 2020
    Set up your node as *:*/999...compile your nodelist to get the info you
    nee

    Thanks very much Don!

    I appreicate these details. I will work on this and see how it goes...

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 17 00:57:05 2020
    Set up your node as *:*/999...compile your nodelist to get the info
    yo
    Thanks very much Don!
    I appreicate these details. I will work on this and see how it goes...

    Fantastic!!!

    We're here to help each other. Was into this 30+ years ago...but am so happy it's still hanging around...even if it's a smaller version than what was here back in the "golden" area.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/09 (Windows/32)
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Wed Mar 18 00:45:49 2020
    We're here to help each other. Was into this 30+ years ago...but am so
    happ

    Thanks Don!

    I sent my node request, although I might have done it without having my configuration correct. Should I give it 2 weeks before trying it again with proper settings? I also forgot to include "I agree to the policy" in the statement. Big oops!

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Mar 18 04:41:29 2020
    I sent my node request, although I might have done it without having my configuration correct. Should I give it 2 weeks before trying it again with proper settings? I also forgot to include "I agree to the policy"
    in the statement. Big oops!

    Actually...I did mine thru a website which took 3 weeks for the coordinator
    to get back to me. Even then...had/still don't know his configuration & was never able to get a straight answer from him what this information was. Went with Paul out of New Zealand & never looked back. Since he already had me set up in fsxNet...was a no brainer on how to set it up on either end.

    I wouldn't sweat it too much about the agreement. If they need it...they will get in touch with you about it.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/09 (Windows/32)
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Wed Mar 18 12:22:25 2020
    I wouldn't sweat it too much about the agreement. If they need it...they
    wi
    get in touch with you about it.

    Thank you!

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Mar 19 14:37:59 2020
    I wouldn't sweat it too much about the agreement. If they need
    it...th
    get in touch with you about it.
    Thank you!

    NP at all. As my boss at work says that I make him feel guilty sweating like crazy because I'm working. I work...but there is no circulation of air & the heater is still on. This being the case...I will sweat standing up. ;)

    No need to worry about this at all. Many of the sysops on the othernets are more than happy to help you with your feed.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Sat Mar 21 09:30:59 2020
    NP at all. As my boss at work says that I make him feel guilty sweating
    lik

    I'm a sweater too! I was cleaning this lady's office in the middle of my busy day, and she was like "here's a tissue to dry yourself off!"

    It would take like 6 boxes of tissues to dry me off when I'm in that mode.

    Regarding the fido app, how do regional coordinators typically respond? By voice call? I think that's the only contact info I gave them - unless they want to log on to my BBS.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Metalhead on Sat Mar 21 09:40:51 2020
    On 13 Mar 20 12:37:56, Metalhead said the following to All:

    So, I want to "obtain a current nodelist" so that I can send mail (my
    reques
    to join) but where can I find the nodelist? I checked the Fidonet website, and it has "Nodelist History Lookup," but I don't know what to type in
    there
    I tried a few sysop real names that I know of, but it doesn't find them.

    Dude... you call my board all the time.

    You can get all your Fido stuff directly from me. I publish the nodelist.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Mar 21 08:47:52 2020
    NP at all. As my boss at work says that I make him feel guilty
    sweatin
    I'm a sweater too! I was cleaning this lady's office in the middle of my busy day, and she was like "here's a tissue to dry yourself off!"

    Problem is they have the heater going with no circulation. Usually...just
    keep a piece of paper towel in my pocket.

    Regarding the fido app, how do regional coordinators typically respond?
    By voice call? I think that's the only contact info I gave them - unless they want to log on to my BBS.

    Usually...by email. They have also logged onto my system to make sure it's there & leave me a message they were doing that. In terms of getting hold of Paul...would have to find a time for both of us & do it thru Skype. New
    Zealand is I believe 16 hours ahead.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 21 23:34:46 2020
    You can get all your Fido stuff directly from me. I publish the nodelist.

    I appreciate it! My BBS is a little crazy though, and might not be Fido-friendly. I'm waiting to see what they say. Plus, I have very little experience with echomail. I might not be set up properly yet.

    If Fido rejects me, I'll try some other one like Scinet or something.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Sat Mar 21 23:38:30 2020
    there & leave me a message they were doing that. In terms of getting hold Paul...would have to find a time for both of us & do it thru Skype. New

    Are there any conditions that would make a BBS not get accepted? Like if it was a warez board or something?

    I know who Paul is. Is it Paul's call?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Mar 22 00:38:06 2020
    If Fido rejects me, I'll try some other one like Scinet or something.

    You are always welcome to join SciNet, we tend to be more forgiving than Fidonet yet most of us are Fidonet, lol.

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  • From Netsurge@1:229/101 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Mar 22 00:39:22 2020
    Are there any conditions that would make a BBS not get accepted? Like if it was a warez board or something?

    I know who Paul is. Is it Paul's call?

    It isn't anyone's call. You just need to make sure you get all of the
    technical setup correct. You might be better off joining another network
    where you can get your feet wet.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Mar 22 00:13:16 2020
    On 21 Mar 20 23:34, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    I appreciate it! My BBS is a little crazy though, and might not be Fido-friendly. I'm waiting to see what they say. Plus, I have very little experience with echomail. I might not be set up properly yet.

    I don't give a shit about the BBS. I only give a shit about your mailer.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Mar 22 00:59:49 2020
    On 21 Mar 20 23:38, Aaron Thomas said the following to Don Lowery:

    Are there any conditions that would make a BBS not get accepted? Like if
    it
    was a warez board or something?

    Lets merge my other reply with this one so I don't rant twice. I cannot afford royalty payments to Mark Lewis.

    At one time there were Napoleon NC's that would reject nodelisting a system based on that system's BBS content ala that silly illogical "mark of the
    devil" example of P4.

    The problem with that, is that your BBS has absolutely jack-shit to do with Fidonet in and of itself. It is the messages originating from your system and the operation of your mailer that I or anyone else cares about.

    I can personally assure you that you are more than welcome in Fido as long as that is the case. Except you must buy the first 'round.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Netsurge on Mon Mar 23 09:20:40 2020
    You are always welcome to join SciNet, we tend to be more forgiving than Fidonet yet most of us are Fidonet, lol.

    Thanks, I am going to give it a try.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Mon Mar 23 09:26:34 2020
    The problem with that, is that your BBS has absolutely jack-shit to do
    with
    Fidonet in and of itself. It is the messages originating from your system

    I understand. Even it was a warez board, my echomail would still be legit, at least on Fido :)

    I can personally assure you that you are more than welcome in Fido as long that is the case. Except you must buy the first 'round.

    It will be worth celebrating once I get some echomail going. Me & my
    daughter just mastered "cats cradle" so how hard can this be? lol

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Mar 23 10:36:46 2020
    On 23 Mar 20 09:26, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    I understand. Even it was a warez board, my echomail would still be legit, least on Fido :)

    If you have any good warez, you must "share the wealth"...

    It will be worth celebrating once I get some echomail going. Me & my daughter just mastered "cats cradle" so how hard can this be? lol

    My daughter has begun to appreciate the genius that is Frank Zappa.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Dallas Vinson@1:123/257 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 24 16:04:44 2020
    Re: Re: Fidonet Beginner
    By: Aaron Thomas to Netsurge on Mon Mar 23 2020 09:20:40

    You are always welcome to join SciNet, we tend to be more forgiving
    than Fidonet yet most of us are Fidonet, lol.

    Thanks, I am going to give it a try.

    There is also SFnet that can be accessed by either FTN or QWK. You can get the info packet on the website at furmenservices.net
    -+-
    SFnet: A network for all things SF/Fantasy/Anime/Comics/Gaming.

    Dallas
    -Dallas Vinson
    Furmens Folly (FIDO 1:123/257) - telnet: furmenservices.net:23
    SSH: furmenservices.net:23222
    Before the Web - telnet: furmenservices.net:23232
    Legends of Yesteryear (FIDO 1:123/256) - telnet: furmenservices.net:23322
    Sound Source ]|[ - telnet: furmenservices.net:2323



    Dallas

    ... Success is a public affair. Failure is a private funeral.
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Tue Mar 24 13:31:34 2020
    If you have any good warez, you must "share the wealth"...

    Absolutely! I've been reluctant to download anything of that nature ever since I got some warnings from my ISP regarding some music that "somebody" downloaded from my IP.

    My daughter has begun to appreciate the genius that is Frank Zappa.

    I'm a fan of many classic rock artists, but I can't say that I know of any Frank Zappa songs. What are some of his hits? I just listened to "Montana" and it was kinda painful.

    Is it all comical entertainment or is some of it more beautiful musically?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 24 13:28:45 2020
    I'm a fan of many classic rock artists, but I can't say that I know of
    any Frank Zappa songs. What are some of his hits? I just listened to

    Don't go where the huskies roam...Stairway to Heaven are just 2 of the best
    of the best. The latter is his take on the '72 Zeppelin hit.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-W.Coyote & D.Brown are our best users. (1:340/1000)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Mar 25 05:13:20 2020
    On 24 Mar 20 13:31, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    Absolutely! I've been reluctant to download anything of that nature ever
    si
    I got some warnings from my ISP regarding some music that "somebody" downloaded from my IP.

    That sucks. Here in Canada we used to get the dreaded ISP "warning" but I believe liability law was changed and I can only say I never get them anymore.

    Its weird because I manage the IT for a company downtown and if anyone
    torrents anything on that connection through Cogent, they do send the DMCA notices and threaten suspension of service if its not acted upon.

    I'm a fan of many classic rock artists, but I can't say that I know of any Frank Zappa songs. What are some of his hits? I just listened to "Montana" it was kinda painful.

    Black Napkins. Zoot Allures. Muffin Man. Watermelon in Easter Hay. Rat Tomango. Sexual harassment in the Workplace.

    Just to name a few...

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Wed Mar 25 13:47:01 2020
    Don't go where the huskies roam...Stairway to Heaven are just 2 of the
    best
    of the best. The latter is his take on the '72 Zeppelin hit.

    "Don't go where the huskies go" sounds interesting. It's weird! I bet Frank heard that a few times before.

    My impression is that he was the "Weird Al" of the 70s, and maybe a precursor for alternative rock bands like Weezer. Am I getting it?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dallas Vinson on Wed Mar 25 13:48:01 2020
    There is also SFnet that can be accessed by either FTN or QWK. You can get info packet on the website at furmenservices.net

    I will give this a try also. Thank you.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Wed Mar 25 13:54:51 2020
    Black Napkins. Zoot Allures. Muffin Man. Watermelon in Easter Hay. Rat Tomango. Sexual harassment in the Workplace.

    Muffin Man sounds good! I like the guitar playing. Is that him?

    His abstract song titles and music reminds me of Buckethead.

    Thanks for this list. Now I'm finding some gold..

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Mar 25 14:50:12 2020
    Don't go where the huskies roam...Stairway to Heaven are just 2 of
    the
    of the best. The latter is his take on the '72 Zeppelin hit.
    "Don't go where the huskies go" sounds interesting. It's weird! I bet Frank heard that a few times before.

    Forgot to finish the title which is...don't eat that yellow snow.

    My impression is that he was the "Weird Al" of the 70s, and maybe a precursor for alternative rock bands like Weezer. Am I getting it?

    I would even go back to the 60's. In terms of Weird Al...he would take pop
    hits & make them into novelties...while Frank would do much of his own with Mothers of Invention. Dr. Demento (Barry Hanson) would play Frank once in a while...but he was instrumental in giving Al his start.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Don Lowery on Mon Jan 4 00:56:08 2021
    I would even go back to the 60's. In terms of Weird Al...he would take pop hits & make them into novelties...while Frank would do much of his own
    with

    What's up with Dweezil? Is he a comedian too?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)