Belatedly catching up on Mageia Cauldron, I now have a cloned copy of my Mageia7 / & /home partitions, fully updated from Cauldron in 2 new
partitions
on the same drive.

All but 2 applications (even including Kmail) appear to work normally,
but
unfortunately the 2 miscreants are Firefox (64-bit 68.3.0esr) and
Thunderbird
68.3.0, both of which seem to have lost track of their Mga7 profiles (FF:
URL
settings in menu bar, Tbird all email and addressbook.)
Seems users are supposed to re-create them all over again for the time being...

I'm hoping this is only a temporary Cauldron glitch, and that coming down
the
pike there will be an upward compatibility fix for this.

In the meantime, could someone point me to a way of acquiring the missing
data
from an Mga7 installtion?

[This is what is in the Cauldron ~/.thunderbird:

ls /new/mab/.thunderbird
aeilcp70.default/ 'Crash R
eports'/ installs.ini profiles.ini
yxark1a2.default-release/

and to see into the latter:

[root@pc18 ~]# ls /new/mab/.thunderbird/yxark1a2.default-release/
abook.mab compatibility.ini
favicons.sqlite
pkcs11.txt session.json virtualFolders.dat addons.json cookies.sqlite
folderTree.json
places.sqlite SiteSecurityServiceState.txt
webappsstore.sqlite
addonStartup.json.lz4 datareporting/ global-messages-
db.sqlite
prefs.js storage/ xulstore.json AlternateServices.txt directoryTree.json
history.mab
revocations.txt storage.sdb
blist.sqlite extension-preferences.json
key4.db
search.json.mozlz4 storage.sqlite
calendar-data/ extensions/
mailViews.dat
SecurityPreloadState.txt Telemetry.ShutdownTime.txt
cert9.db extensions.json
permissions.sqlite
sessionCheckpoints.json times.json*

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:07:32 +0000, I wrote:

All but 2 applications (even Kmail) appear to work normally,

P.S.
Another glitch is that the user login gently-rising tinkling piano
cadence
is now a loud cacophonous screech!

WTH is causing that, one wonders...

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:07:32 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

Belatedly catching up on Mageia Cauldron, I now have a cloned copy of my

All but 2 applications (even including Kmail) appear to work normally,
but
unfortunately the 2 miscreants are Firefox (64-bit 68.3.0esr) and
Thunderbird
68.3.0, both of which seem to have lost track of their Mga7 profiles (FF:
URL
settings in menu bar, Tbird all email and addressbook.)
Seems users are supposed to re-create them all over again for the time being...

Heheheh, saw the same thing with the vendor copy. And what is worse
each point release, cause the same thing to happen.

Even posted about it in this Usenet group.

I'm hoping this is only a temporary Cauldron glitch, and that coming down
the
pike there will be an upward compatibility fix for this.

In the meantime, could someone point me to a way of acquiring the missing data
from an Mga7 installtion?

[This is what is in the Cauldron ~/.thunderbird:

Your "data" is in the, or one of, the previous default directories.

Your address book is in the abook.mab file. Just copy it from an old
default directory into the current in use default directory.

I have
$ grep thunderbird /etc/passwd | wc -l
6
thunderbird accounts, plus my $USER account.

On the few I had folders of saved email I had to use grep -r to locate
and copy those folders from an old default to the new default thunderbird directory.

Currently running firefox-71.0 and thunderbird-68.3.0

Current workaround for both firefox and thunderbird is to use the
--profile option/switch.

For firefox I have
$ grep firefox /etc/passwd | wc -l
11
accounts.

All of those user accounts ~/.bash_profile, execute my ~/.user_profile script.

The script locates the latest user's firefox or thunderbird default
directory and launches the app with the --profile option/switch.

Sample thunderbird code snippet follow: Be mindful of possible line wrap
of the first line above if [

_profile_fn=$(ls -1d $HOME/.thunderbird/*.default-release* 2> /dev/null | tail -1)
if [ -n "$_profile_fn" ] ; then
_profile_fn=" --profile $_profile_fn"
else
_profile_fn=""
fi

thunderbird -no-remote $_profile_fn

On firefox, $HOME/.mozilla/firefox, is the directory to use.


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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:29:42 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

On firefox, $HOME/.mozilla/firefox, is the directory to use.

Tried:

firefox --profile /home/mab/.mozilla/firefox
firefox --profile ~/.mozilla/firefox

but neither showed the old familiar URL menu bar.

What did I do wrong?!

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:29:42 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

$HOME/.thunderbird/*.default-release*

Also tried:

thunderbird --profile ~/.thunderbird/yxark1a2.default-release/

but still just a starter TBird screen arrived...
No sign of email DB.

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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 12:04:00 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:29:42 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

On firefox, $HOME/.mozilla/firefox, is the directory to use.

Tried:

firefox --profile /home/mab/.mozilla/firefox
firefox --profile ~/.mozilla/firefox

but neither showed the old familiar URL menu bar.

What did I do wrong?!

First thing, you did not provide the firefox default release file name.

Example:
$ cd ~/.mozilla/firefox

$ ls -1d *default*
uzvzoz4q.default
xshvdmau.default-release

So, profile would be
--profile $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/xshvdmau.default-release

Note: at one time I up to *.default-release-3 profiles.
To get back to a simple selection, I deleted ~/.mozilla/firefox
and started over.

As for your "URL menu bar" I will have to guess you are talking
about the top of screen list of selections:
File Edit View History Bookmarks Tools Help
Menu Bar.

If so, you Right click Above the URL box, say mid screen, and set
Check box on the Menu Bar box line.

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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 12:15:05 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:29:42 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

$HOME/.thunderbird/*.default-release*

Also tried:

thunderbird --profile ~/.thunderbird/yxark1a2.default-release/

I have no idea if it matters or not, but I do not have a trailing /
on end of mine. Script provided does not return a directory with a
trailing /.

but still just a starter TBird screen arrived...
No sign of email DB.

Yup, Yup, yup. Been there done that, when I attempted to use my previous thunderbird restore from backup. TB saw that the default-release contents
was the old TB release/version and forced me through the new user
install/setup screen and gave me a *.default-release-1 :(

I then had to copy any desired files from .default-release to .default-release-1
and go though Edit Preferences to set them as desired.

Next version of TB did the same thing and left me with a default-release-2
and next release gave me a default-release-3.

I said screw this. renamed .thunderbird to .thunderbird_old, ran thunderbird, copied desired files from thunderbird_old.default-release into
new .default-release, updated my TB launch script to get latest *.default-release* for --profile, and had no problems on each TB update
since and no new *.default-release-X are showing up.

$ cd ~/.thunderbird
$ ls -1
Crash\ Reports
installs.ini
Pending\ Pings
profiles.ini
t3eu8n3p.default-release
wze5vs11.default

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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 06:54:13 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

profile would be
--profile $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/xshvdmau.default-release

Just tried:

firefox --profile /home/mab/.mozilla/firefox/qe56dw5m.default-release

- but still firefox comes up in 'starter' mode. :-(

(No other 'default-release' files in sight).

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 06:54:13 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

profile would be
--profile $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/xshvdmau.default-release

Just tried:

firefox --profile /home/mab/.mozilla/firefox/qe56dw5m.default-release

- but still firefox comes up in 'starter' mode. :-(

(No other 'default-release' files in sight).

Are you completing the new user 'starter' mode?

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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 06:54:13 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

As for your "URL menu bar" I will have to guess you are talking about
the top of screen list of selections:
File Edit View History Bookmarks Tools Help
Menu Bar.

No, its the bar along the top showing horizontally all the URL icons I
had
set up for connecting to often-used sites, e.g. banks and such.
(Have forgotten the formal name of that bar...)

As for the multiple versions of 'default-release', I just have that one,
as
have not yet had a replacement download of TBird (or Firefox).

So - pro tem - cannot get normal use of FF or TB.

Apart from getting Dropbox to work, all other apps seem to be playing
ball, amazingly!

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:30:15 +0000, I wrote:

, all other apps seem to be playing ball, amazingly!

It even installed the nVidia 430 driver...

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On 12/14/19 9:30 AM, Maurice wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 06:54:13 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

As for your "URL menu bar" I will have to guess you are talking about
the top of screen list of selections:
File Edit View History Bookmarks Tools Help
Menu Bar.

No, its the bar along the top showing horizontally all the URL icons I
had
set up for connecting to often-used sites, e.g. banks and such.
(Have forgotten the formal name of that bar...)

I believe Firefox calls that the "Bookmarks Toolbar."

TJ

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On 12/14/19 6:17 AM, Maurice wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 06:54:13 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

profile would be
--profile $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/xshvdmau.default-release

Just tried:

firefox --profile /home/mab/.mozilla/firefox/qe56dw5m.default-release

- but still firefox comes up in 'starter' mode. :-(

(No other 'default-release' files in sight).

Regards,

It seems like you did not back up your previous default?

I do not use the Bookmarks Toolbar but maintain a directory
with the same name.

Are you using the Menu Bar? If not click on the
bar above the top of the Tab bar. You should see a short menu
including check boxes for the Menu Bar and the Bookmark toolbar.

I am using Firefox 71.0(64 bit) but these procedures
have worked for me on every other release to this point.

bliss

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:54:37 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

It seems like you did not back up your previous default?

On Mga7 I'm not aware of having a default.
Newer versions of FF simply behaved as before!

I do not use the Bookmarks Toolbar but maintain a directory
with the same name.

Well, I don't see how the contents would show up on FF's window.

Are you using the Menu Bar? If not click on the
bar above the top of the Tab bar. You should see a short menu including
check boxes for the Menu Bar and the Bookmark toolbar.

Nothing apparently useful shows up there!

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:21:48 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

Are you completing the new user 'starter' mode?

No - I'm not a 'new user' wanting to start /ab initio/ :-)

Is one supposed to play with /about:profiles/, by any chance?

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:45:06 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:21:48 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

Are you completing the new user 'starter' mode?

No - I'm not a 'new user' wanting to start /ab initio/ :-)

Is one supposed to play with /about:profiles/, by any chance?

Only if you know what you are doing and why.

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On 12/14/19 10:20 AM, Bit Twister wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:45:06 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:21:48 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

Are you completing the new user 'starter' mode?

No - I'm not a 'new user' wanting to start /ab initio/ :-)

Is one supposed to play with /about:profiles/, by any chance?

Only if you know what you are doing and why.

It seems he does not as he is expecting to get
stable performance from a Cauldron release. Why the
Caudron release is so far behind the current release
is beyond my cognizance.

bliss

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:42:15 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:54:37 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

It seems like you did not back up your previous default?

On Mga7 I'm not aware of having a default.

We are talking about the firefox *default* setting directories in
~/.mozilla/firefox

For example:
$ ls -1d ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default* /home/bittwister/.mozilla/firefox/wyqnyffk.default /home/bittwister/.mozilla/firefox/xql5igqg.default-release

Newer versions of FF simply behaved as before!

Yep, and releases 68+ are creating new default directory without
migrating previous release default settings.

Are you using the Menu Bar? If not click on the
bar above the top of the Tab bar. You should see a short menu including
check boxes for the Menu Bar and the Bookmark toolbar.

Nothing apparently useful shows up there!

Either you are not clicking in the right location or you have a bad
firefox install. Either a user problem or a system wide problem.

To rule out a user problem, I recommend that you create a test account,
say junk. log out of your account, log into junk, bring up a terminal and run
rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox/

then enter firefox at the bash prompt.

You will have a New Tab with X on the far Left followed by a + and
Search with Google or enter address
in the URL bar. You need to Right click above the "or enter" in the + area.

You will then get the configuration control pop up menu with

Reload Selected Tab
Bookmark Selected Tab
Select All Tabs
Undo Close Tab
[_] Menu Bar
[_] Bookmarks Tool Bar
Customize

I suggest clicking in each [_] check box.

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:42:15 +0000, I wrote:

On Mga7 I'm not aware of having a default.

Well, of course Firefox does have my default tucked away somewhere.

What I meant was that I don't directly use the file - though using FF's
GUI
to create bookmarks will (under the covers) change its contents..

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:25:39 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

On 12/14/19 10:20 AM, Bit Twister wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:45:06 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:21:48 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

Are you completing the new user 'starter' mode?

No - I'm not a 'new user' wanting to start /ab initio/ :-)

Is one supposed to play with /about:profiles/, by any chance?

Only if you know what you are doing and why.

It seems he does not as he is expecting to get
stable performance from a Cauldron release.

Heheh, I think he is getting a "stable performance" So far I have
seen his initial display and default results.

Why the
Caudron release is so far behind the current release
is beyond my cognizance.

Yeah, I hear that. From vendor official release I am running
# ls -1
firefox-71.0
thunderbird-68.3.0
on Mga7.

I can commiserate with the package managers, Too few package managers,
sooo many packages.


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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:45:52 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:42:15 +0000, I wrote:

On Mga7 I'm not aware of having a default.

Well, of course Firefox does have my default tucked away somewhere.

What I meant was that I don't directly use the file - though using FF's
GUI
to create bookmarks will (under the covers) change its contents..

I do not use bookmarks. Decades ago I pulled all my bookmarks into an
ASCII file and added keyword comments to each entry so I could grep for keyword(s) to find the url of interest.

A quick use of locate bookmark, gets me
.mozilla/firefox/xshvdmau.default-release/bookmarkbackups
I can only guess that bookmarkbackups would be the file needed to be
copied from its old default location to the new default-release location.

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On 12/14/19 10:59 AM, Bit Twister wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:45:52 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:42:15 +0000, I wrote:

On Mga7 I'm not aware of having a default.

Well, of course Firefox does have my default tucked away somewhere.

What I meant was that I don't directly use the file - though using FF's
GUI
to create bookmarks will (under the covers) change its contents..

I do not use bookmarks. Decades ago I pulled all my bookmarks into an
ASCII file and added keyword comments to each entry so I could grep for keyword(s) to find the url of interest.

Well that is a good idea certainly. But I have a long list
of bookmarks some of which I visit daily or more often,

A quick use of locate bookmark, gets me
.mozilla/firefox/xshvdmau.default-release/bookmarkbackups
I can only guess that bookmarkbackups would be the file needed to be
copied from its old default location to the new default-release location.

Using Dophin in split page mode with Views/hidden files turned on I enter the /home/bliss/.mozilla/firefox/ and copy the default directory
to whatever I belive is a secure location.
I usually call it a Help directory on a different disk or if hurried to
a USB Flash Drive.
Then after install of a new version of Firefox I look for what is in the default and if it does not match the version in Help/ I copy the
contents of that default back into the new default.

Nothing is perfect of course and sometimes I have problems.

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:26:47 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

On 12/14/19 10:59 AM, Bit Twister wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:45:52 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:42:15 +0000, I wrote:

On Mga7 I'm not aware of having a default.

Well, of course Firefox does have my default tucked away somewhere.

What I meant was that I don't directly use the file - though using FF's
GUI
to create bookmarks will (under the covers) change its contents..

I do not use bookmarks. Decades ago I pulled all my bookmarks into an
ASCII file and added keyword comments to each entry so I could grep for
keyword(s) to find the url of interest.

Well that is a good idea certainly. But I have a long list
of bookmarks some of which I visit daily or more often,

For the majority of those I have created my own local index.html web
page. Small snippet follows.

Data Breaches security tracker f-secure viruslist Investor News Stock lookup explore.org
security radar traffic report downdetector
NASA Pictures Consumer Affairs Food Consumer Dilbert Nature Reuters UPI Mageia Mirrors Mga_Mirror Status
current activity privoxy config Shorewall docs TLDP docker
Mageia Blog Mageia sysadmin Mageia Dev Mageia User Mageia Forum Mageia QA Bugs Mageia build Mageia Bugzilla
Disk Docs local webpage PHP Manual Apache Manual php myadmin Doc MySql Ref KDE Bugs Xfce Bugs


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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:42:47 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

We are talking about the firefox *default* setting directories in
~/.mozilla/firefox

OK. Here is what I see in the Cauldron8 /home (mounted on 'new'):

$ ls -1d /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox/*default* /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox/oq1yjb9z.default-release-1576344245735/ /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox/oryf55a3.default/

As a matter of interest, which of those do I need to use in
firefox --profile ....?

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:40:29 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:42:47 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

We are talking about the firefox *default* setting directories in
~/.mozilla/firefox

OK. Here is what I see in the Cauldron8 /home (mounted on 'new'):

$ ls -1d /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox/*default* /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox/oq1yjb9z.default-release-1576344245735/ /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox/oryf55a3.default/

As a matter of interest, which of those do I need to use in
firefox --profile ....?

The yucky one, release-1576344245735



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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:25:39 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

It seems he does not as he is expecting to get stable performance from a Cauldron release.

Not at all!

In fact I'm amazed how stable this Cauldron is; quite impressed ...

What bothers me is that its FF & Tbird lack ANY migration consideration,
but
I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that's just a temporary Cauldron glitch.

I don't know what the Mageia users total is these days but im guessing
it's
at least 10,000.
Hopefully we are not contemplating leaving that lot to sort out FF & Tbird's hiding their previous setup?
Luckily, in the short term I can use Kmail for any ad hoc emails, and
FF
is usable for occasional lookups.

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On 12/14/19 1:25 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

Why the
Caudron release is so far behind the current release
is beyond my cognizance.

    bliss

Firefox 68.3.0 ESR IS the current ESR release. It is the same one that
is currently being used in Mageia 7 - if installed from Mageia's
repositories.

According to Mozilla, the ESR versions get bug and security fixes, but
don't get all the new "features."

Firefox ESR releases are tested for use with Mageia 7 by the Mageia QA
team before being passed on to Mageia users. If you get Firefox from
Mozilla, you do your own testing. As for the ESR in Cauldron, well, it's Cauldron, with all the limitations that involves.

TJ

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On 12/14/19 11:54 AM, Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:25:39 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

It seems he does not as he is expecting to get stable performance from a
Cauldron release.

Not at all!

In fact I'm amazed how stable this Cauldron is; quite impressed ...

What bothers me is that its FF & Tbird lack ANY migration consideration,
but
I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that's just a temporary Cauldron glitch.

I don't know what the Mageia users total is these days but im guessing
it's
at least 10,000.
Hopefully we are not contemplating leaving that lot to sort out FF & Tbird's hiding their previous setup?
Luckily, in the short term I can use Kmail for any ad hoc emails, and
FF
is usable for occasional lookups.

Regards,

No the sensible way to run Caldron would be in a Virtual Machine. That
Virtual machine should be setup on the stable
release of Mageia or whichever you prefer.
In my humble opinion. Here below is some help
for attaining that nearly ideal solution.

<https://dephace.com/how-to-build-a-hacking-lab-with-virtualbox/>
I did not write that, but I used it recently to set up Virtual
Box and to install Mageia 7.1 x86_64 Install only. I still have
some work to do on it.

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:54:47 +0000, I wrote:

What bothers me is that its FF & Tbird lack ANY migration consideration,
but I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that's just a temporary Cauldron
glitch.

Having tried - in vain - all the suggested ways (for which many thanks!)
out
if this impasse, I'm going to hold off any further migration attempts wih
FF
and TB until a migratory-ready version of FF & TB arrives.

Here in the meantime Cauldron Tbird is dead, FF is in 'starter' mode -
though
usable for one-off lookups), and I'm supressing any thought of raising a
bug
report (on the assumption that as more users give Cauldron FF & TB a try,
many will add to the howls of annoyance and revolt.) :-)

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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 14:35:41 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:54:47 +0000, I wrote:

Having tried - in vain - all the suggested ways (for which many thanks!)
out
if this impasse, I'm going to hold off any further migration attempts wih
FF
and TB until a migratory-ready version of FF & TB arrives.

Ok, finally was able to get logged into a brand new cauldron VirtualBox
guest using Mageia-Cauldron-netinstall-nonfree-x86_64.iso with tainted media.

Created junk account, installed firefox, logged into junk.

Ran firefox. Enabled Menu and Bookmarks. customized it a bit, exit FF.

Ran firefox again, no arguments, everything was still there, no new default-release-xxxxx

$ cd .mozilla/firefox
$ ls -1d *default*
emjovfyl.default
tsafuaqc.default-release

Read the last four lines of this reply, I'll wait . . . . . . . . . . . .

Offhand, I see no reason that you can not export bookmarks from mga7,
boot cauldron (mga8),
\rm -r $HOME/.mozilla/firefox
firefox
and import your bookmarks, make any customization/Preference changes.

Next FF launch should be good.

Above assumes $HOME/.mozilla/firefox is not shared between mga7 and mga8.

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 06:17:04 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

$ cd .mozilla/firefox
$ ls -1d *default*
emjovfyl.default
tsafuaqc.default-release

Given Cauldron's /home mounted here on /new:

$ cd /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox
$ ls -1d *default*
6k4j2i74.default-release/
oryf55a3.default/

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:21:25 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 06:17:04 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

$ cd .mozilla/firefox
$ ls -1d *default*
emjovfyl.default
tsafuaqc.default-release

Given Cauldron's /home mounted here on /new:

$ cd /new/mab/.mozilla/firefox
$ ls -1d *default*
6k4j2i74.default-release/
oryf55a3.default/

Regards,

Not a lot of information given there.

You seemed to indicate you were unable to get a Menu and/or Bookmarks bar.

Does FF now have the desired bars and did you migrate your bookmarks?



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On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:20:15 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

Does FF now have the desired bars

Sadly still not...

and did you migrate your bookmarks?

No - that's what FF should do automatically, as it has always done
before
in my experience! [Efforts to do it myself in Cauldron have failed]

I am postponing spending any more Cauldron time on FF and the now useless Tbird until the 1st Mageia8 .iso is available for a fresh install, unless
a
further Cauldron update solves the migration problem.

Meanwhile over here on Mga7, for the time being I am blacklisting FF & TB
in
/etc/urpmi/skip.list and /etc/dnf/dnf.conf, to prevent any Cauldron-like non-migration change slipping in...

Many thanks for your help, BT; much appreciated as always. :-)
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:01:44 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:20:15 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

Does FF now have the desired bars

Sadly still not...

Even if you have enabled Menu Bar and Bookmarks Toolbar and created
a few new bookmarks as a test?

and did you migrate your bookmarks?

No - that's what FF should do automatically, as it has always done
before
in my experience! [Efforts to do it myself in Cauldron have failed]

That should be a bug report if exported on mga7 and failed to import on mga8. If you do not report it now it will not get fixed any time soon.

I am postponing spending any more Cauldron time on FF and the now useless Tbird until the 1st Mageia8 .iso is available for a fresh install, unless
a
further Cauldron update solves the migration problem.

Meanwhile over here on Mga7, for the time being I am blacklisting FF & TB
in
/etc/urpmi/skip.list and /etc/dnf/dnf.conf, to prevent any Cauldron-like non-migration change slipping in...

Sounds like a bad decision to me. You would be disabling any security
fixes. Any of which are closing possible Criminal access to your system.

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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 05:32:55 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

if exported on mga7 and failed to import on mga8.

Uh? You mean some sort of manual procedure?

Never been needed here before this Cauldron...

In all probability it's only a temporary situation, which is why I am holding off pro tem, on assumption that bug raising for it would be
premature ATM.

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:20:15 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

did you migrate your bookmarks?

OK, have now realised how to import bookmarks.html into FF, so can now
select
from its list.

But I miss having a selected group in the Bookmarks Bar menu long top of screen for quicker access, rather than having to search the long HTML
list.

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On 12/18/19 11:51 AM, Maurice wrote:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:20:15 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

did you migrate your bookmarks?

OK, have now realised how to import bookmarks.html into FF, so can now
select
from its list.

But I miss having a selected group in the Bookmarks Bar menu long top of screen for quicker access, rather than having to search the long HTML
list.

Regards,

The Firefox (not Mageia) default is to not show the Bookmarks Toolbar.
That is why you aren't seeing it in this new profile.

Now that you have imported your bookmarks, try this:

1. At the top, click on the "hamburger" button to drop down the menu.
2. Click on "Customize."
3. At the bottom left of the screen, click on the button marked "Toolbars."
4. Put a check in the box next to "Bookmarks Toolbar."

That should do it.

TJ

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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:05:06 -0500, TJ wrote:

Put a check in the box next to "Bookmarks Toolbar.

Was already ticked...

However, at the end of the Bookmarks list on screen left, there is a
separate
Bookmarks Toolbar icon containng the Bookmarks whose main secvtion I used
to
see horizontally at the top, and I was able to drag that icon to the bookmarks(?) bar at the top of screen, and if I click on it there the
list of
'favourite' URLs appears!
What I could not find how to do was spread them across the top, but I
can
live with it as is now.

So, I can now start Firefox without having to specify a profile, so is
quite
usable now, but not quite as convenient as it used to be...
(Why shouldn't it have been, though...)

No change with Thunderbird, though - that is still just a starter's empty shell, so useless for me.
(Tried the other profile in it's profile.ini, but no joy.)

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On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:02:10 +0000 (UTC), Maurice wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:05:06 -0500, TJ wrote:

Put a check in the box next to "Bookmarks Toolbar.

Was already ticked...

However, at the end of the Bookmarks list on screen left, there is a
separate
Bookmarks Toolbar icon containng the Bookmarks whose main secvtion I used
to
see horizontally at the top, and I was able to drag that icon to the bookmarks(?) bar at the top of screen, and if I click on it there the
list of
'favourite' URLs appears!
What I could not find how to do was spread them across the top, but I
can
live with it as is now.

So, I can now start Firefox without having to specify a profile, so is
quite
usable now, but not quite as convenient as it used to be...
(Why shouldn't it have been, though...)

No change with Thunderbird, though - that is still just a starter's empty shell, so useless for me.
(Tried the other profile in it's profile.ini, but no joy.)

Yup, spent a day screwing around with Thunderbird.
At one point I had up to xxx.default-release-4 directories.

I had to go ahead and create my previous email users.

If you do not have exported address book for import, solution is to
find/copy old xxx.default-release/abook.mab to new xxx.default-release

If using thunderbird folders for old mail storage, use
grep -r keyword_of_interest_here ~/.thunderbird/*
to find the directory and copy that directory to new xxx.default-release

To me, that is a waste of space to have both old and new default-release sub-directories.

I moved ~/.thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird_bkup, ran thunderbird,
created users, then copied directories from _bkup into xxx.default-release

When I was happy, deleted ~/.thunderbird_bkup

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 17:45:06 +0000, I wrote:

Is one supposed to play with /about:profiles/, by any chance?

Just came across this i:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1580770

"Not going to fix this at this point.
You should be able to switch back to your old profile through about:profiles."

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