• Baloo

    From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 31 07:32:47 2019
    What is baloo and do I need it? I am trying to run Xfce with only the
    good bits of KDE.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 31 08:45:46 2019
    On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:32:47 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    What is baloo and do I need it?

    I would assume if you were using baloo, you would know what it does.

    Anytime I seek information on a package, I get into
    mcc->Software Management->Install & Remove Software and search
    for the package to get a description.

    For any in depth research I find using
    https://encrypted.google.com/advanced_search
    with something like linux baloo in the first box.

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 31 10:33:56 2019
    On 31.10.2019 at 18:32, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    What is baloo and do I need it? I am trying to run Xfce with only
    the good bits of KDE.

    It's part of the semantic desktop paradigm. It's the successor of
    Nepomuk, and it allows you to either index all your files or index the
    files' content. =20

    Among other things, if you have it running, it's what provides you with
    the search results if you bring up the KRunner search box by pressing
    Alt+F2. If you have it set to index the content also, then it can also
    present you with searches inside documents and emails. =20

    Personally, I have it running, but set to only index files, not their
    content. This was the default in Manjaro, and I've kept it that way.
    By contrast, in PCLinuxOS, the default is to have it disabled.

    If you're running XFCE, then there's a good chance that it already
    offers a similar search functionality of its own =E2=80=94 GNOME (which see=
    ks
    to combine the worst of macOS with the worst of Windows) certainly does
    have something similar as well =E2=80=94 and then you won't need Baloo.


    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 31 14:50:04 2019
    On 10/31/19 3:33 AM, Aragorn wrote:
    On 31.10.2019 at 18:32, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    What is baloo and do I need it? I am trying to run Xfce with only
    the good bits of KDE.

    It's part of the semantic desktop paradigm. It's the successor of
    Nepomuk, and it allows you to either index all your files or index the
    files' content.

    Well I did not know that it could handle content.

    Among other things, if you have it running, it's what provides you with
    the search results if you bring up the KRunner search box by pressing
    Alt+F2. If you have it set to index the content also, then it can also present you with searches inside documents and emails.

    If it behaves like Nepomuk you want to be sure it is shut
    off as Nepomuk created huge files that filled up my disks until
    I wised up to what it was doing.


    Personally, I have it running, but set to only index files, not their content. This was the default in Manjaro, and I've kept it that way.
    By contrast, in PCLinuxOS, the default is to have it disabled.

    If you're running XFCE, then there's a good chance that it already
    offers a similar search functionality of its own — GNOME (which seeks
    to combine the worst of macOS with the worst of Windows) certainly does
    have something similar as well — and then you won't need Baloo.


    Have you heard Aragorn that Gnome and KDE are combining their
    forces to conquer the desktop environment world. <https://www.zdnet.com/article/gnome-and-kde-work-together-on-the-linux-desktop

    Just search on Gnome-KDE collaboration for lots of speculation
    and maybe some news.
    And as with all else the result of this collaboration will be downloadable but not yet despite Source Forge links to an empty
    project.
    I fear for the result being the worst of both worlds.

    bliss

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 31 15:36:23 2019
    On 31.10.2019 at 07:50, Bobbie Sellers scribbled:

    On 10/31/19 3:33 AM, Aragorn wrote:
    On 31.10.2019 at 18:32, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:
    =20
    What is baloo and do I need it? I am trying to run Xfce with only
    the good bits of KDE. =20
    =20
    It's part of the semantic desktop paradigm. It's the successor of
    Nepomuk, and it allows you to either index all your files or index
    the files' content. =20
    =20
    Well I did not know that it could handle content.

    System Settings =E2=86=92 Workspace =E2=86=92 Search =E2=86=92 "Also inde=
    x content"

    :)

    Among other things, if you have it running, it's what provides you
    with the search results if you bring up the KRunner search box by
    pressing Alt+F2. If you have it set to index the content also,
    then it can also present you with searches inside documents and
    emails. =20
    =20
    If it behaves like Nepomuk you want to be sure it is shut
    off as Nepomuk created huge files that filled up my disks until
    I wised up to what it was doing.

    Nepomuk was commonly set up to create backups by default, and to
    reserve a certain amount of drive space for that. I see no such
    settings in Baloo, although it does have an index file of about 150 MiB
    under ~/.local/baloo on my system.

    Personally, I have it running, but set to only index files, not
    their content. This was the default in Manjaro, and I've kept it
    that way. By contrast, in PCLinuxOS, the default is to have it
    disabled.
    =20
    If you're running XFCE, then there's a good chance that it already
    offers a similar search functionality of its own =E2=80=94 GNOME (which seeks to combine the worst of macOS with the worst of Windows)
    certainly does have something similar as well =E2=80=94 and then you wo=
    n't
    need Baloo.=20
    =20
    Have you heard Aragorn that Gnome and KDE are combining their
    forces to conquer the desktop environment world. <https://www.zdnet.com/article/gnome-and-kde-work-together-on-the-linux-d=
    esktop/>

    Yes, I saw it at Slashdot and I believe it was also posted at the
    Manjaro forum a while ago. =20

    Just search on Gnome-KDE collaboration for lots of speculation
    and maybe some news.
    And as with all else the result of this collaboration will be=20 downloadable but not yet despite Source Forge links to an empty
    project.
    I fear for the result being the worst of both worlds.

    Oh, I certainly share your fear, Bobbie, even if only because one of
    the two players involved is GNOME. =20

    The GNOME and GTK developers =E2=80=94 insofar as they are not the same peo= ple
    =E2=80=94 have a very authoritarian and antisocial attitude with regard to their code. See, they feel that catering to the users' wishes for more customization options would negatively affect the quality of the code
    they write.

    If I were in their shoes, I would feel the exact same way, given how
    poor the quality of their code already is. :p

    Seriously, in my 20+ years of exclusively using GNU/Linux, I have
    barely ever had any problems with KDE applications, but GNOME/GTK
    applications have always been troublesome and relatively unstable.

    Unfortunately, not everything is available in a Qt variant =E2=80=94 many applications do come in both versions, though =E2=80=94 and so I'm still fo= rced
    to use GTK applications, such as this Claws Mail that I'm using for
    Usenet access. And it occasionally still crashes. But other than that
    and GIMP, I try steering clear of all things GTK. =20

    It's Qt all the way for us, Preciousss. GNOMEses, we hates them, we
    hates them! ;)

    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Fri Nov 1 07:26:42 2019
    On 31/10/19 7:45 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    What is baloo and do I need it?
    I would assume if you were using baloo, you would know what it does.


    Yes, I know what it does. It ties up my computer, just like tracker.

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Fri Nov 1 11:21:06 2019
    On 01.11.2019 at 18:26, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    On 31/10/19 7:45 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    What is baloo and do I need it?
    I would assume if you were using baloo, you would know what it
    does.


    Yes, I know what it does. It ties up my computer, just like tracker.

    It doesn't tie up mine. I've never even noticed that it was running.

    But of course, one must never let the facts stand in the way of a
    perfectly good prejudice. <sour grin>

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    With respect,
    = Aragorn =


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 5 02:23:18 2019
    On 1/11/19 10:21 pm, Aragorn wrote:
    On 01.11.2019 at 18:26, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    On 31/10/19 7:45 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    What is baloo and do I need it?
    I would assume if you were using baloo, you would know what it
    does.


    Yes, I know what it does. It ties up my computer, just like tracker.

    It doesn't tie up mine. I've never even noticed that it was running.

    I noticed that its predecessor "Nepomuk " certainly tied mine up.
    It took some time to discover why I was so slow, temporarily, after
    booting up..
    I kicked it fair in the head when I found it :-(


    It is an education how many different reactions a distribution has on different machines.

    You may have noticed that I have a "feature"; not being able the have
    the ethernet shut down manually.

    It only affects me !!

    regards


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    faeychild
    Running plasmashell 5.15.4 on 5.3.6-desktop-2.mga7 kernel.
    Mageia release 7 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-7-x86_64-DVD.iso


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