• first impressions Mageia 9

    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tue Feb 27 03:11:49 2024

    These are default conditions


    During installation an error message

    Warning task-pipewire n is not available in any media sources so only
    pulse audio Please fix your repo configuration


    Kwrite has no menu bar

    MCC is blank except for the navigation panel. The exception is Install
    remove Software when called from the start menu


    Clicking on title bar or attempting to resize a window causes shade or
    rollup


    Firefox slow to start
    When launched from the command line this error appears

    [faeychild@unimatrix ~]$ firefox
    [Parent 4792, Main Thread] WARNING:
    /usr/share/applications/kde-mimeapps.list contains a [Added
    Associations] group, but it is not permitted here. Only the non-desktop-specific mimeapps.list file may add or remove associations.:
    'glib warning', file /home/iurt/rpmbuild/BUILD/firefox-102.13.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:167

    (firefox:4792): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 13:35:09.994: /usr/share/applications/kde-mimeapps.list contains a [Added
    Associations] group, but it is not permitted here. Only the non-desktop-specific mimeapps.list file may add or remove associations. ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment. kf.i18n: KLocalizedString: Using an empty domain, fix the code. msgid: "Mozilla Firefox" msgid_plural: "" msgctxt: ""
    Missing chrome or resource URL: resource://gre/modules/UpdateListener.jsm Missing chrome or resource URL:
    resource://gre/modules/UpdateListener.sys.mjs

    These are the major niggles I wont be installing the printer for some
    time :-)

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again





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  • From jim whitby@2:250/1 to All on Tue Feb 27 03:34:31 2024
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:11:49 +1100, faeychild wrote:

    <snip>

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again

    And verify the checksum of the download.



    --
    Jim Whitby


    God gives us relatives; thank goodness we can chose our friends. ----------------------
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64
    6.6.14-server-2.mga9 unknown
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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tue Feb 27 21:32:27 2024
    On 27/2/24 14:34, jim whitby wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:11:49 +1100, faeychild wrote:

    <snip>

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again

    And verify the checksum of the download.



    Yes My thoughts - and hopes. No one else has reported problems

    I find all installs to be subtly different. I assume that they follow a
    script and it shouldn't be - but they are

    Back in the dark ages when I installed Win 3.1 from disk, it would
    always fall over if I rode shotgun..

    If I could start the process and get away to do something else, and NOT
    think about it (pretty difficult) then the installation would complete.
    That never made any sense either; I just blamed the Universe, what else
    do you do?

    regards
    --
    Running KDE on x86_64 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8
    Mageia release 8


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tue Feb 27 23:41:02 2024
    On 28/2/24 08:32, faeychild wrote:
    On 27/2/24 14:34, jim whitby wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:11:49 +1100, faeychild wrote:

    <snip>

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again

    And verify the checksum of the download.


    $ md5sum -c Mageia-9-x86_64.iso.md5
    Mageia-9-x86_64.iso: OK

    I'll re-dump to USB stick. Take two


    regards

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    Mageia release 8


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Wed Feb 28 01:54:27 2024
    On 2024-02-27 16:32, faeychild wrote:
    On 27/2/24 14:34, jim whitby wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:11:49 +1100, faeychild wrote:

    <snip>

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again

    And verify the checksum of the download.



    Yes  My thoughts - and hopes. No one else has reported problems

    I find all installs to be subtly different. I assume that they follow a script and it shouldn't be - but they are

    Back in the dark ages when I installed Win 3.1 from disk, it would
    always fall over if I rode shotgun..

    If I could start the process and get away to do something else, and NOT think about it (pretty difficult) then the installation would complete.
    That never made any sense either; I just blamed the Universe, what else
    do you do?

    regards
    The Mageia QA Team did hundreds of test installs before those ISOs were released - completely new, new but retaining /home, and upgrades from
    Mageia 8. Classic installs, installs from the Live ISOs, net installs, upgrades from the CI, net install, or the mgaapplet. They were tested in VirtualBox and on real hardware, in as many different combinations as we
    had available. But we can't possibly test on every possible combination
    of hardware that could conceivably use Mageia 9 - we just don't have the resources for that.

    To my knowledge, no one reported the issue you saw with Kwrite. I use it
    all the time, and had *I* seen anything like that the ISOs would not
    have been released until it was fixed.

    As for the issue you saw with MCC, I had that problem in Mageia 8 on an ancient 32-bit laptop I call "Foolishness," but moving to Mageia 9 fixed
    it. When I had it, it only affected the MCC window. You could still call
    up the tools with the command line, as root.

    Use drakrpm-edit-media to switch from MIRRORLIST to a specific mirror.
    Use drakrpm-update to use the familiar update GUI, or use urpmi
    --auto-update to get updates.

    You did not say what your hardware is. You also did not say which ISO
    you used, but from other posts I assume it was the Classic. Without that information it would be pretty much impossible for any of us to help you
    if you still have issues.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Feb 28 03:41:18 2024
    On 28/2/24 12:54, TJ wrote:
    On 2024-02-27 16:32, faeychild wrote:
    On 27/2/24 14:34, jim whitby wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:11:49 +1100, faeychild wrote:

    <snip>

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again

    And verify the checksum of the download.



    Yes  My thoughts - and hopes. No one else has reported problems

    I find all installs to be subtly different. I assume that they follow
    a script and it shouldn't be - but they are

    Back in the dark ages when I installed Win 3.1 from disk, it would
    always fall over if I rode shotgun..

    If I could start the process and get away to do something else, and
    NOT think about it (pretty difficult) then the installation would
    complete.
    That never made any sense either; I just blamed the Universe, what
    else do you do?

    regards
    The Mageia QA Team did hundreds of test installs before those ISOs were released - completely new, new but retaining /home, and upgrades from
    Mageia 8. Classic installs, installs from the Live ISOs, net installs, upgrades from the CI, net install, or the mgaapplet. They were tested in VirtualBox and on real hardware, in as many different combinations as we
    had available. But we can't possibly test on every possible combination
    of hardware that could conceivably use Mageia 9 - we just don't have the resources for that.

    To my knowledge, no one reported the issue you saw with Kwrite. I use it
    all the time, and had *I* seen anything like that the ISOs would not
    have been released until it was fixed.


    Correct! Good reasons to suspect I have evil spirits, cosmic rays or an EMP


    You did not say what your hardware is. You also did not say which ISO
    you used, but from other posts I assume it was the Classic. Without that information it would be pretty much impossible for any of us to help you
    if you still have issues.

    It's classic

    -rw-rw-r-- 1 faeychild faeychild 4520814592 Dec 5 09:12
    Mageia-9-x86_64.iso
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 faeychild faeychild 54 Feb 28 10:32 Mageia-9-x86_64.iso.md5

    I also do this stuff so infrequently so as to attract the fates. I can
    always guarantee a glitch


    Hardware is far from fancy and getting on a bit

    Base Board Information
    Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
    Product Name: B250M-D3H-CF

    Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
    Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz

    primary drive is an SSD Ram is 32 Gig


    I'll run a checksum on the USB stick and try again

    It is fortunate these days with SSD and USB stick the install no longer
    takes most of the afternoon

    Take two coming up soon

    Regards

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    Running KDE on x86_64 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8
    Mageia release 8


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Wed Feb 28 20:25:14 2024
    On 2024-02-27 22:41, faeychild wrote:
    Hardware is far from fancy and getting on a bit

    Base Board Information
            Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
            Product Name: B250M-D3H-CF

    Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
            Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz

    primary drive is an SSD  Ram is 32 Gig

    Not so awful different from my newest hardware:

    Asus Prime Q250M-C motherboard
    Intel i5-7500
    48Gigs of RAM
    Primary drive is a 1TB NVME M.2 SSD.
    GPU: Nvidia Quadro K620.
    Hotswap SATA drive bay capable of using both 3.5 inch and 2.5 inch drives.

    I upgraded my production hardware to this in January. It's never had
    anything but Mageia 9 Plasma on it. When I installed, I had backed up my
    old /home to a rust drive, then did a completely fresh install using the netinstall ISO. Then I restored my /home from the backup.

    (You didn't mention your GPU) The K620 is capable of using any of the
    three nvidia drivers Mageia 9 provides. I've tested it with each of the
    three, with no issues. Years ago I swore I'd not use Nvidia cards again,
    but QA needed more testers, so I bought one anyway. So far, so good.

    I seem to remember that you used an older Nvidia card at one time. If
    you are still using it, you may have to use the nouveau driver rather
    than one of the nvidia proprietary drivers. That could make a difference.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Feb 29 05:27:42 2024
    On 29/2/24 07:25, TJ wrote:


    The card is a GTX 1050 TI. It's been OK but many actively don't like
    Nvidia

    But, as for me I have been actively reinstalling mga8 following a disaster
    I do know that I should have followed Bit Twisters advice but, it's
    never going to happen until it does. NO BACKUPS

    I've had the puzzling battle with Thunderbird. setting that up just
    baffles me. I could not tell you how I managed to get it working.
    It's a process of blundering round and round and then behold and low, it starts working. Completely lost

    And the Brother install script coupled with MCC seems to be a chicken
    and egg thing

    Next mga9


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 3 00:44:33 2024
    On 28/2/24 12:54, TJ wrote:
    On 2024-02-27 16:32, faeychild wrote:
    On 27/2/24 14:34, jim whitby wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:11:49 +1100, faeychild wrote:

    <snip>

    Perhaps I should download the ISO afresh and try again

    And verify the checksum of the download.



    Yes  My thoughts - and hopes. No one else has reported problems

    I find all installs to be subtly different. I assume that they follow
    a script and it shouldn't be - but they are

    Back in the dark ages when I installed Win 3.1 from disk, it would
    always fall over if I rode shotgun..

    If I could start the process and get away to do something else, and
    NOT think about it (pretty difficult) then the installation would
    complete.
    That never made any sense either; I just blamed the Universe, what
    else do you do?

    regards
    The Mageia QA Team did hundreds of test installs before those ISOs were released - completely new, new but retaining /home, and upgrades from
    Mageia 8. Classic installs, installs from the Live ISOs, net installs, upgrades from the CI, net install, or the mgaapplet. They were tested in VirtualBox and on real hardware, in as many different combinations as we
    had available. But we can't possibly test on every possible combination
    of hardware that could conceivably use Mageia 9 - we just don't have the resources for that.

    To my knowledge, no one reported the issue you saw with Kwrite. I use it
    all the time, and had *I* seen anything like that the ISOs would not
    have been released until it was fixed.

    As for the issue you saw with MCC, I had that problem in Mageia 8 on an ancient 32-bit laptop I call "Foolishness," but moving to Mageia 9 fixed
    it. When I had it, it only affected the MCC window. You could still call
    up the tools with the command line, as root.

    Use drakrpm-edit-media to switch from MIRRORLIST to a specific mirror.
    Use drakrpm-update to use the familiar update GUI, or use urpmi --auto-update to get updates.

    You did not say what your hardware is. You also did not say which ISO
    you used, but from other posts I assume it was the Classic. Without that information it would be pretty much impossible for any of us to help you
    if you still have issues.

    TJ


    OK the second trial went much better and the update seemed to help.

    Unfortunately I still have the MCC window unpopulated; the navigation
    panel is intact but the window with app thumbnails is blank. Despite
    their invisibility they still work if I click on the appropriate blank area.
    It reminds me of the old trick of setting font color to the background.

    Changing themes, decoration, etc has no effect

    Also quite impressed with the self centering task bar - nice touch
    --
    faeychild
    Running kde on 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
    Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64


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