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    From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Wed Dec 27 22:58:22 2023
    I am looking in to doing a clean install of Mageia 9 instead of updating
    8, Asking a "stupid" question because I don't remember as it's been many
    years since I last did a clean install.. and also because it's a first
    try using a M.2 drive instead of a regular SSD.

    /home is on a different hard drive. If I do a clean install, will the installation find /home, or do I have to tell it where it is? Will it
    also work out the UID I set for the various users. Do I have to install
    the users names and passwords of /home manually all over again? I will disconnect all other drives and add them in manually to FSTAB after the install.

    Thanks.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Dec 28 00:56:26 2023
    On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 17:58:22 -0500, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    I am looking in to doing a clean install of Mageia 9 instead of updating
    8, Asking a "stupid" question because I don't remember as it's been many years since I last did a clean install.. and also because it's a first
    try using a M.2 drive instead of a regular SSD.

    /home is on a different hard drive. If I do a clean install, will the installation find /home, or do I have to tell it where it is? Will it
    also work out the UID I set for the various users. Do I have to install
    the users names and passwords of /home manually all over again? I will disconnect all other drives and add them in manually to FSTAB after the install.

    Before you start, make note of the uid used for users.

    In the partitioning step create the partitions you want on the nvme drive,
    and select the partition to be mounted as /home. Make sure you remember to uncheck the option to format the /home partition if you want to keep it's contents.

    Use the same uid for each user created during the install as they had in
    the existing /home.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Daniel65@2:250/1 to All on Thu Dec 28 10:22:38 2023
    Ar wrote on 28/12/23 9:58 am:
    I am looking in to doing a clean install of Mageia 9 instead of
    updating 8, Asking a "stupid" question because I don't remember

    Back in the 80's and 90's, I used to teach Electronics to Apprentices
    ..... and one thing that I really tried to hammer home was that "The only stupid question is the unasked question"!!

    I don't know if it sunk in or not! ;-P
    --
    Daniel

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Dec 28 18:19:18 2023
    On 2023-12-27, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:
    I am looking in to doing a clean install of Mageia 9 instead of updating
    8, Asking a "stupid" question because I don't remember as it's been many years since I last did a clean install.. and also because it's a first
    try using a M.2 drive instead of a regular SSD.

    /home is on a different hard drive. If I do a clean install, will the installation find /home, or do I have to tell it where it is? Will it

    No it will not find home. It will make a directory called /home, and put
    your one account into that. But afterwards you can do
    put in a line into /etc/fstab to mount your home onto /home. Or you can
    move away /home (mv /home /home.orig) and then link to where you put the
    home (eg ln -s /local/home /home)

    also work out the UID I set for the various users. Do I have to install
    You will have to transfer the bits of your original /etc/passwd which contain the
    users ids to /etc/passwd
    awk -F: ' $1>999 {print $0} ' /old/passwd >>/etc/passwd
    (where /old/passwd is wherever your old password from Mga8 was saved,
    and 999 is one less than the lowest user uid you defined in /etc/passwd)

    Note that the files in /home know absolutely nothing about user names.
    They only know about uids.
    the users names and passwords of /home manually all over again? I will

    The passwords are in /etc/shadow. They are listed not according uids but according to use names. So make sure you save the /etc/shadow file
    somewhere and replace the /etc/shadow file in Mga9 with that old file.

    disconnect all other drives and add them in manually to FSTAB after the install.

    Thanks.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Dec 28 18:26:30 2023
    On 2023-12-28, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 17:58:22 -0500, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    I am looking in to doing a clean install of Mageia 9 instead of updating
    8, Asking a "stupid" question because I don't remember as it's been many
    years since I last did a clean install.. and also because it's a first
    try using a M.2 drive instead of a regular SSD.

    /home is on a different hard drive. If I do a clean install, will the
    installation find /home, or do I have to tell it where it is? Will it
    also work out the UID I set for the various users. Do I have to install
    the users names and passwords of /home manually all over again? I will
    disconnect all other drives and add them in manually to FSTAB after the
    install.

    Before you start, make note of the uid used for users.

    In the partitioning step create the partitions you want on the nvme drive, and select the partition to be mounted as /home. Make sure you remember to uncheck the option to format the /home partition if you want to keep it's contents.

    Use the same uid for each user created during the install as they had in
    the existing /home.

    I believe /home is not on the nvme drive. It is on some other drive.

    One problem with a clean install is that you must re-setup all of the configurations that you originally had. /etc/fstab /etc/passwd
    /etc/shadow are only some of them. /etc/shorewall, /etc/cups,
    /etc/chrony*, /etc/sysconfig, ....
    Now some you may not mind recreating since things have changed, others
    you have long forgotten because they just work, and now will not just
    work, but need to be set up again.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 30 21:57:53 2023
    On 29/12/23 05:26, William Unruh wrote:


    One problem with a clean install is that you must re-setup all of the configurations that you originally had. /etc/fstab /etc/passwd
    /etc/shadow are only some of them. /etc/shorewall, /etc/cups,
    /etc/chrony*, /etc/sysconfig, ....

    Yes This is why I delay my install as long as possible.
    Also some settings move around or disappear from "Control Center" and
    "System Setting"


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    Running KDE on x86_64 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8
    Mageia release 8


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 30 22:37:00 2023
    Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com

    On 12/30/23 13:57, faeychild wrote:
    On 29/12/23 05:26, William Unruh wrote:


    One  problem with a clean install is that you must re-setup all of the
    configurations that you originally had. /etc/fstab /etc/passwd
    /etc/shadow are only some of them. /etc/shorewall, /etc/cups,
    /etc/chrony*, /etc/sysconfig, ....

    Yes This is why I delay my install as long as possible.
    Also some settings move around or disappear from "Control Center"  and "System Setting"


    Which is one of the reaons I went to a "Rolling Release" and we
    still have those sorts of problems but re-installation is relativly
    rare. Usually the missing parts of the PCC and KDE System Settings
    can be worked around and the PCLinuxOS Forum can generally help.

    Good luck to all the distros that started with Mandrake.

    bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2023.12- Linux 6.5.13- Plasma 5.27.10

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun Dec 31 21:53:39 2023
    On 31/12/23 09:37, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


        Good luck to all the distros that started with Mandrake.

    bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2023.12- Linux 6.5.13- Plasma 5.27.10


    Dead Right Bobbie. Happy New Year


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    Mageia release 8


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