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    From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Fri Dec 15 22:41:02 2023
    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the
    other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.



    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

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  • From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Fri Dec 15 23:03:29 2023
    On 15/12/2023 22:41, Ar wrote:

    Tried a downgrade GIMP to the previous version, but the package manger
    won't let me.

    There is no "GEGL 0.4.36" listed in the package manager.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 16 03:25:21 2023
    On 2023-12-15, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:
    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the
    other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.


    urpmi --downgrade gimp
    Installs the second newest version of gimp (2.10.32)


    Note that you do not tell us what this nesest version of gimp is that
    you installed. You might have got it before the newest version of
    libgegl got uploaded to the mirror.i Mind you Mga8 is no longer being
    updated so that is unlikely

    Or Mageia made a mistake (go to the bugs.mageia.org and tell them)

    The newest version of libgegl on the 8 mirror is lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.36-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm






    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 16 15:12:40 2023
    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:41:02 +0000, Ar wrote:

    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the
    other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.



    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    Other than that, Mageia seems to be at 0.4.34 unless you
    upgrade to Mga9. Perhaps enable testing and use mcc to see
    if you can find the package(s) you need.

    Bear in mind, urpmi has --downgrade and --replacepkgs options.
    You have to download the rpm(s) first and then it uses rpm
    to do the deed.

    Cheers!

    jim

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 16 17:30:56 2023
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:12:40 -0500, Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:41:02 +0000, Ar wrote:

    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the
    other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.



    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    Other than that, Mageia seems to be at 0.4.34 unless you
    upgrade to Mga9. Perhaps enable testing and use mcc to see
    if you can find the package(s) you need.

    Bear in mind, urpmi has --downgrade and --replacepkgs options.
    You have to download the rpm(s) first and then it uses rpm
    to do the deed.

    Cheers!

    4.38 can be downloaded from http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/8/SRPMS/core/updates_testing/gegl-0.4.38-1.mga8.src.rpm

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 16 18:04:50 2023
    On 2023-12-16, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:12:40 -0500, Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:41:02 +0000, Ar wrote:

    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the
    other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.



    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    Other than that, Mageia seems to be at 0.4.34 unless you
    upgrade to Mga9. Perhaps enable testing and use mcc to see
    if you can find the package(s) you need.

    Bear in mind, urpmi has --downgrade and --replacepkgs options.
    You have to download the rpm(s) first and then it uses rpm
    to do the deed.

    Cheers!

    4.38 can be downloaded from http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/8/SRPMS/core/updates_testing/gegl-0.4.38-1.mga8.src.rpm


    Or http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/8/x86_64/media/core/updates_testing/
    and get
    gegl-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm
    lib64gegl-devel-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm
    and install them. without having to compile the source.

    But I do agree, releasing a new version of gimp without at the same time releasing new versions of libraries that gimp depends on is not good.
    And libgegl has been stuck in testing now for 3 weeks.
    If it is not ready for release then gimp shold not have been released.



    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 16 18:17:53 2023
    On 2023-12-16, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:12:40 -0500, Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:41:02 +0000, Ar wrote:

    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the
    other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.



    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    Other than that, Mageia seems to be at 0.4.34 unless you
    upgrade to Mga9. Perhaps enable testing and use mcc to see
    if you can find the package(s) you need.

    Bear in mind, urpmi has --downgrade and --replacepkgs options.
    You have to download the rpm(s) first and then it uses rpm
    to do the deed.

    Cheers!

    4.38 can be downloaded from http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/8/SRPMS/core/updates_testing/gegl-0.4.38-1.mga8.src.rpm

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Bug 32548 - gimp new security issues CVE-2023-4444[1-4]

    It looks like one of the admin team forgot to push libgegl to updates
    when gimp was pushed there, and it was finally done today, so that
    should happen today by the Mageia Robot.
    It should propagate to the mirrors in the next day or two.
    Looks like the OP downloaded the new gimp just (well, a day) befor the
    error was caught, since gimp was pushed up yesterday.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 16 19:30:28 2023
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:04:50 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    On 2023-12-16, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:12:40 -0500, Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:41:02 +0000, Ar wrote:

    I am currently working on a photo project, thanks to a GIMP update the >>>> other day, it no longer loads, and am fucked as I can't work!

    Mageia 8, x86_64.


    GEGL version too old!



    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.



    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    Other than that, Mageia seems to be at 0.4.34 unless you
    upgrade to Mga9. Perhaps enable testing and use mcc to see
    if you can find the package(s) you need.

    Bear in mind, urpmi has --downgrade and --replacepkgs options.
    You have to download the rpm(s) first and then it uses rpm
    to do the deed.

    Cheers!

    4.38 can be downloaded from
    http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/8/SRPMS/core/updates_testing/gegl-0.4.38-1.mga8.src.rpm


    Or http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/8/x86_64/media/core/updates_testing/
    and get
    gegl-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm
    lib64gegl-devel-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm
    and install them. without having to compile the source.

    But I do agree, releasing a new version of gimp without at the same time releasing new versions of libraries that gimp depends on is not good.
    And libgegl has been stuck in testing now for 3 weeks.
    If it is not ready for release then gimp shold not have been released.

    Agreed. Mistakes happen though as people are involved in creating the file
    used by the script that is used to push the updates from the updates testing repositories to the updates repositories and publish the advisory.

    In this case the m9 update only involved gimp, while the m8 update involved both
    gimp and gegl. The gegl srpm was missed when creating the file https://svnweb.mageia.org/advisories/32548.adv?revision=15416&view=markup
    that was used by the scripts that push the updates.

    The gegl srpm has since been added, but requires manual intervention by a sysadmin
    to actually get moved rather then just running the normal script.

    I'm no longer involved in the qa team by the way.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Sun Dec 17 15:20:25 2023
    On 16/12/2023 15:12, Jim wrote:
    Somehow you or your software packager managed

    to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.



    Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    I didn't try this file, but the packages list at the same site you gave
    did have GIMP 2.10.32, it DOES NOT exist in the up-to-date media sources
    / package manager. So someone deleted that version, but left an even
    older version, which is why I could not "downgrade".

    Removing GIMP and two other library files allowed me to install the
    downloaded GIMP 2.10.32, plus it automatically grabbed the older
    dependencies which had not been deleted from the package manager.

    I have the older version of GIMP working now, so can continue working.

    Thank you for your help.

    I have bookmarked the packages website in case I ever need it again.

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  • From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Sun Dec 17 15:23:49 2023
    On 16/12/2023 03:25, William Unruh wrote:
    GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.38 or later.

    Installed GEGL version is 0.4.36.


    urpmi --downgrade gimp
    Installs the second newest version of gimp (2.10.32)

    I tried your suggestion, but it didn't install. More digging I found
    that someone has deleted GIMP 2.10.32 from the repositories, and so GIMP
    could not be downgraded because the next version back was too old and
    needed a tonne of dependencies.

    I downloaded GIMP 2.10.32 from elsewhere, and it installed with the old dependencies that hadn't been deleted from the package manager.

    Thanks for your help.

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  • From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Sun Dec 17 15:25:28 2023
    On 16/12/2023 18:17, William Unruh wrote:

    Bug 32548 - gimp new security issues CVE-2023-4444[1-4]

    It looks like one of the admin team forgot to push libgegl to updates
    when gimp was pushed there, and it was finally done today, so that
    should happen today by the Mageia Robot.
    It should propagate to the mirrors in the next day or two.
    Looks like the OP downloaded the new gimp just (well, a day) befor the
    error was caught, since gimp was pushed up yesterday.

    Thanks for that, very interesting. I had not spotted that bug report.

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  • From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Sun Dec 17 15:35:21 2023
    On 16/12/2023 15:12, Jim wrote:
    A search of the 'Net brings up a hit in
    https://mageia.pkgs.org › 8 › mageia-core-updates-testing-x86_64

    lib64gegl0.4_0-0.4.38-1.mga8.x86_64.rpm

    Other than that, Mageia seems to be at 0.4.34 unless you
    upgrade to Mga9. Perhaps enable testing and use mcc to see
    if you can find the package(s) you need.

    I'm not due to install Mageia 9 until sometime over the Christmas
    period, which is why I needed GIMP working before Christmas, to work!

    Thanks for your help with the packages URL, which allowed me to get it
    all running again eventually with the older GIMP (which was also deleted
    from the package manager list).

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Tue Dec 19 17:50:03 2023
    On 2023-12-16 14:30, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    Agreed. Mistakes happen though as people are involved in creating the file used by the script that is used to push the updates from the updates
    testing
    repositories to the updates repositories and publish the advisory.

    In this case the m9 update only involved gimp, while the m8 update
    involved both
    gimp and gegl. The gegl srpm was missed when creating the file https://svnweb.mageia.org/advisories/32548.adv?revision=15416&view=markup that was used by the scripts that push the updates.

    The gegl srpm has since been added, but requires manual intervention by
    a sysadmin
    to actually get moved rather then just running the normal script.

    The gegl rpms have finally been pushed, and should be making their way
    through the mirrors now. We apologize for the issue, but we are only
    human, after all.

    I'm no longer involved in the qa team by the way.

    And we miss you, my friend.

    TJ


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