• Samba and Windows 10

    From pinnerite@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 17 21:05:21 2023
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1.

    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share.

    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



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  • From Paul@2:250/1 to All on Tue Jul 18 00:21:35 2023
    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1.

    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share.

    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address
    from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And,
    I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't
    set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

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  • From pinnerite@2:250/1 to All on Tue Jul 18 07:35:14 2023
    On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:21:35 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1.

    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share.

    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address
    from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And,
    I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on
    with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

    Sadly I still get asked for my share's credentials which it rejects.
    It shouldn't. They or rather it (the password) are correct. Thanks for trying.


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  • From Paul@2:250/1 to All on Tue Jul 18 10:14:15 2023
    On 7/18/2023 2:35 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:21:35 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1. >>>
    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share. >>>
    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address
    from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And,
    I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't >> set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on
    with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

    Sadly I still get asked for my share's credentials which it rejects.
    It shouldn't. They or rather it (the password) are correct. Thanks for trying.


    wsdd package takes the place of nmbd ? This idea shows up in
    Synaptic when I searched for nmb. I don't need to apply it at the
    moment, as stuff seems to be working.

    sudo systemctl start {nmbd,smbd,winbind}.service # I don't have a winbind

    sudo systemctl status {nmbd,smbd }.service # Both are running

    groups bullwinkle
    bullwinkle : bullwinkle adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    This is on Win10. Sadly, it never records failed attempts to connect.
    Who gives a rats ass about success cases, when something is broken ?

    Get-SmbConnection # This only works in Win10 Powershell *after* a connection is made
    # Obviously my test connection was not from WinXP :-) [ NT1 ]
    # In Win10, in Windows Features, is a way to turn on NT1 so WinXP can connect to Win10

    ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens
    ---------- --------- -------- ---------- ------- --------
    WALLACE RAMDrive WALLACE\username My MSA 3.1.1 2

    nbtscan-1.0.35.exe 192.168.1.0/24
    192.168.1.3 WORKGROUP\CRUISE SHARING # But Win10 does not list itself. *timeout (normal end of scan) # Generally, NBTscan sees more items, than any file manager.

    The program is also available on Linux. Convenient.
    However, it does not mention the workgroup value.
    Both boxes are workgroup=WORKGROUP. I like it when it
    lists the workgroup value, because it can identify VMs
    where you haven't configured that yet.

    bullwinkle@CRUISE:~$ nbtscan 192.168.1.0/24
    Doing NBT name scan for addresses from 192.168.1.0/24

    IP address NetBIOS Name Server User MAC address ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 192.168.1.3 CRUISE <server> CRUISE 00:00:00:00:00:00 Linux physical box
    192.168.1.2 WALLACE <server> <unknown> 2c:f0:12:34:56:78 Windows physical box
    192.168.1.255 Sendto failed: Permission denied
    bullwinkle@CRUISE:~$

    Not that this makes a bit of difference of course. I hardly
    ever get to refer to them by name. It's the luck of the
    draw on boot order, and population of a list.

    Still no sign of an authentication issue, but I have *definitely*
    seen a rejection issue before. Most annoying when it happens.
    Probably a different distro ? Maybe I saw that on a Ubuntu, like
    a 23.04 or something.

    Paul

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@2:250/1 to All on Tue Jul 18 12:12:35 2023
    pinnerite wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:21:35 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1. >>>
    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share. >>>
    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address
    from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And,
    I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't >> set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on
    with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

    Sadly I still get asked for my share's credentials which it rejects.
    It shouldn't. They or rather it (the password) are correct. Thanks for trying.


    WAG, on reincarnated Mint 21.1 did you add samba password for user?

    sudo smbpasswd -a YOUR_USER_NAME

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    Take care,

    Jonathan
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  • From pinnerite@2:250/1 to All on Tue Jul 18 18:26:49 2023
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 05:14:15 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/18/2023 2:35 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:21:35 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1. >>>
    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share. >>>
    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address
    from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And, >> I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't
    set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on
    with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

    Sadly I still get asked for my share's credentials which it rejects.
    It shouldn't. They or rather it (the password) are correct. Thanks for trying.


    wsdd package takes the place of nmbd ? This idea shows up in
    Synaptic when I searched for nmb. I don't need to apply it at the
    moment, as stuff seems to be working.

    sudo systemctl start {nmbd,smbd,winbind}.service # I don't have a winbind

    sudo systemctl status {nmbd,smbd }.service # Both are running

    groups bullwinkle
    bullwinkle : bullwinkle adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    This is on Win10. Sadly, it never records failed attempts to connect.
    Who gives a rats ass about success cases, when something is broken ?

    Get-SmbConnection # This only works in Win10 Powershell *after* a connection is made
    # Obviously my test connection was not from WinXP :-) [ NT1 ]
    # In Win10, in Windows Features, is a way to turn on NT1 so WinXP can connect to Win10

    ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens ---------- --------- -------- ---------- ------- --------
    WALLACE RAMDrive WALLACE\username My MSA 3.1.1 2

    nbtscan-1.0.35.exe 192.168.1.0/24
    192.168.1.3 WORKGROUP\CRUISE SHARING # But Win10 does not list itself.
    *timeout (normal end of scan) # Generally, NBTscan sees more items, than any file manager.

    The program is also available on Linux. Convenient.
    However, it does not mention the workgroup value.
    Both boxes are workgroup=WORKGROUP. I like it when it
    lists the workgroup value, because it can identify VMs
    where you haven't configured that yet.

    bullwinkle@CRUISE:~$ nbtscan 192.168.1.0/24
    Doing NBT name scan for addresses from 192.168.1.0/24

    IP address NetBIOS Name Server User MAC address ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    192.168.1.3 CRUISE <server> CRUISE 00:00:00:00:00:00 Linux physical box
    192.168.1.2 WALLACE <server> <unknown> 2c:f0:12:34:56:78 Windows physical box
    192.168.1.255 Sendto failed: Permission denied
    bullwinkle@CRUISE:~$

    Not that this makes a bit of difference of course. I hardly
    ever get to refer to them by name. It's the luck of the
    draw on boot order, and population of a list.

    Still no sign of an authentication issue, but I have *definitely*
    seen a rejection issue before. Most annoying when it happens.
    Probably a different distro ? Maybe I saw that on a Ubuntu, like
    a 23.04 or something.

    Paul

    As Windows XP running on the same VBox/Mint 21.1 combination runs vedry fast and connects to the same samba shares. the problem is either protocol limitations or Windows 10 itself.

    As Windows 10 has shown several oddities I am going through the onboard Windows repair options. This agonisingly slow and for me foreign territory but I shal stick with it.

    Alan



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  • From Paul@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jul 19 07:02:30 2023
    On 7/18/2023 7:12 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    pinnerite wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:21:35 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1. >>>>
    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share. >>>>
    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address
    from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And, >>> I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't >>> set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on
    with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

    Sadly I still get asked for my share's credentials which it rejects.
    It shouldn't. They or rather it (the password) are correct. Thanks for trying.


    WAG, on reincarnated Mint 21.1 did you add samba password for user?

    sudo smbpasswd -a YOUR_USER_NAME


    My test setup was like this. I tend to keep one account as
    common to all the things where I expect to be doing smb/cifs.

    LM212 physical Win10 pyhsical Win7 (no MSA possible???)

    user=bullwinkle pw=password user=MSAname pw=MSApass
    user=bullwinkle pw=password user=bullwinkle pw=password

    The bullwinkle account is something I added to Win10
    just for file sharing.

    The MSAname is not a practical way of authenticating
    anything.

    This is not a Domain setup, so there isn't any coordination of SIDs.
    The SID of bullwinkle on Win10, is not the same as the SID of bullwinkle on win7,
    but this only matters when connecting the Win7 physical HDD to the Win10 machine
    and "browsing" things with the usual Win7 ownership. The "implicit Takeown"
    the File Explorer uses, allows stamping ownership on user directories,
    so two SIDs can be assigned and I can "get in" and do stuff.

    Apparently smb.conf has some sort of password sync, which
    might imply that the smbpasswd and the Linux account and
    passwd are handled the same somehow. Even though there
    is the possibility of setting up Samba server on the
    LM212 side, to use one of three different databases
    for the password.

    I tested this one, where the password value is the same on the two,
    and the bullwinkle account worked to get me in. It's possible
    installing samba, provided the smb.conf starting file, to which
    I added my six line stanza.

    bullwinkle:password
    (server) <=============================== (client)

    LM212 Win10

    user=bullwinkle pw=password user=MSAname pw=MSApass X Logged in, via MSA
    user=bullwinkle pw=password <=== this makes the samba connection

    unix password sync = yes \
    passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u \___ I did not set these...
    pam password change = yes /
    log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m /

    cat /var/lib/samba/usershares/topshared

    #VERSION 2
    path=/topshared
    comment=
    usershare_acl=S-1-1-0:F
    guest_ok=y
    sharename=topshared

    The testfile in /topshared

    ls -al /topshared

    rwx r r nobody nogroup 5 WALLACE.txt

    From Win10, I tried to edit the file and I was denied.
    Then I notice /var/log/samba/log.wallace was updated a
    minute or two ago.

    Segmentation fault (/usr/sbin/smbd ? hard to tell)

    And now I'm editing the file. See how neat it is, to
    not read LOG FILES :-) The test file has five characters
    in it "saved", which is from where I saved out my Notepad
    session into the share, yesterday. And the nobody:nogroup
    suggests I did this as Guest, and not as bullwinkle.

    Well, at least there are plenty of moving part -- no complaint there :-)

    Paul

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  • From Dan Purgert@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jul 19 12:22:55 2023
    On 2023-07-19, Paul wrote:
    [...]
    Apparently smb.conf has some sort of password sync, which
    might imply that the smbpasswd and the Linux account and
    passwd are handled the same somehow. Even though there
    is the possibility of setting up Samba server on the
    LM212 side, to use one of three different databases
    for the password.

    They're not, but (as I recall), if the samba user (configured with, iirc 'smbpasswd') is the same name as a standard user (in /etc/passwd), then
    there is a setting that allows samba to execute passwd(1) to keep the
    system login in sync with the samba password. Can't recall ever using
    it though :( .


    I tested this one, where the password value is the same on the two,
    and the bullwinkle account worked to get me in. It's possible
    installing samba, provided the smb.conf starting file, to which
    I added my six line stanza.

    [...]

    The testfile in /topshared

    ls -al /topshared

    rwx r r nobody nogroup 5 WALLACE.txt

    From Win10, I tried to edit the file and I was denied.
    Then I notice /var/log/samba/log.wallace was updated a
    minute or two ago.

    Segmentation fault (/usr/sbin/smbd ? hard to tell)

    And now I'm editing the file. See how neat it is, to
    not read LOG FILES :-) The test file has five characters
    in it "saved", which is from where I saved out my Notepad
    session into the share, yesterday. And the nobody:nogroup
    suggests I did this as Guest, and not as bullwinkle.

    IIRC, samba doesn't assume samba users are also users on the local
    system; although I recall it saving as samba:samba by default (but it's
    been ages since i've set up a samba server).


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  • From pinnerite@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jul 20 18:59:55 2023
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:26:49 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 05:14:15 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/18/2023 2:35 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:21:35 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On 7/17/2023 4:05 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1.

    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    I have come to the conclusion that I previously must have been using an earlier version of VirtualBox.

    I had been using version 7.0.8 on this rig but it had annoying characteristics so I went back to 6.1.12. I have nothing earlier than that.

    If anyone happens to be a VBox user and knows the answer. Plesase share.

    I can carry on using VBox's shared directories but it is a niggle.



    First you have to do

    ipconfig

    in Windows 10 and see what your VirtualBox has netted for an IP address >> from the DHCP on your router (or not). You can run with default "NAT"
    for the VBox choice or you can try "Bridged".

    Without discussing all the security implications, these
    are the settings in the Linux Host (I'm using LM212 Victoria Cinn for test here).
    I did a "sudo apt install samba", before setting up my LM212 share. And, >> I can see my Windows share, which for once, didn't put up a fight. I didn't
    set up a test share in my home, and put it under slash instead. Just to get on
    with it.

    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    ...
    workgroup = WORKGROUP

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    That should be enough to make a VBox WinXP and a VBox Win10 work.
    Previously, there was an authentication issue (get the dialog,
    enter the details of the Win10 box, and get rejected). It's possible
    the auth lines helped.

    Paul

    Sadly I still get asked for my share's credentials which it rejects.
    It shouldn't. They or rather it (the password) are correct. Thanks for trying.


    wsdd package takes the place of nmbd ? This idea shows up in
    Synaptic when I searched for nmb. I don't need to apply it at the
    moment, as stuff seems to be working.

    sudo systemctl start {nmbd,smbd,winbind}.service # I don't have a winbind

    sudo systemctl status {nmbd,smbd }.service # Both are running

    groups bullwinkle
    bullwinkle : bullwinkle adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    This is on Win10. Sadly, it never records failed attempts to connect.
    Who gives a rats ass about success cases, when something is broken ?

    Get-SmbConnection # This only works in Win10 Powershell *after* a connection is made
    # Obviously my test connection was not from WinXP :-) [ NT1 ]
    # In Win10, in Windows Features, is a way to turn on NT1 so WinXP can connect to Win10

    ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens ---------- --------- -------- ---------- ------- --------
    WALLACE RAMDrive WALLACE\username My MSA 3.1.1 2

    nbtscan-1.0.35.exe 192.168.1.0/24
    192.168.1.3 WORKGROUP\CRUISE SHARING # But Win10 does not list itself.
    *timeout (normal end of scan) # Generally, NBTscan sees more items, than any file manager.

    The program is also available on Linux. Convenient.
    However, it does not mention the workgroup value.
    Both boxes are workgroup=WORKGROUP. I like it when it
    lists the workgroup value, because it can identify VMs
    where you haven't configured that yet.

    bullwinkle@CRUISE:~$ nbtscan 192.168.1.0/24
    Doing NBT name scan for addresses from 192.168.1.0/24

    IP address NetBIOS Name Server User MAC address ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    192.168.1.3 CRUISE <server> CRUISE 00:00:00:00:00:00 Linux physical box
    192.168.1.2 WALLACE <server> <unknown> 2c:f0:12:34:56:78 Windows physical box
    192.168.1.255 Sendto failed: Permission denied
    bullwinkle@CRUISE:~$

    Not that this makes a bit of difference of course. I hardly
    ever get to refer to them by name. It's the luck of the
    draw on boot order, and population of a list.

    Still no sign of an authentication issue, but I have *definitely*
    seen a rejection issue before. Most annoying when it happens.
    Probably a different distro ? Maybe I saw that on a Ubuntu, like
    a 23.04 or something.

    Paul

    As Windows XP running on the same VBox/Mint 21.1 combination runs vedry fast and connects to the same samba shares. the problem is either protocol limitations or Windows 10 itself.

    As Windows 10 has shown several oddities I am going through the onboard Windows repair options. This agonisingly slow and for me foreign territory but I shal stick with it.

    Alan



    Windows 10 seems to have cleared itself. I decided to overwrite smb.conf with a version that I knew had been reliable and tested again.

    Bingo! Both XP and Win-10 are accessing the Linux shares again.


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  • From Jonathan N. Little@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jul 21 15:39:19 2023
    pinnerite wrote:
    Windows 10 seems to have cleared itself. I decided to overwrite smb.conf with a version that I knew had been reliable and tested again.

    Bingo! Both XP and Win-10 are accessing the Linux shares again.

    testparm -d might have helped.

    Also "diff non_working_smb.conf backup_smb.conf" might be informative

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  • From pinnerite@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jul 21 18:21:16 2023
    On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:39:19 -0400
    "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:
    Windows 10 seems to have cleared itself. I decided to overwrite smb.conf with a version that I knew had been reliable and tested again.

    Bingo! Both XP and Win-10 are accessing the Linux shares again.

    testparm -d might have helped.

    Also "diff non_working_smb.conf backup_smb.conf" might be informative

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    Jonathan

    You're right. I haven't used diff for over 20 years! :)

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jul 28 15:50:36 2023
    On 7/18/2023 4:05 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1.

    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    Are you using the stanealone Samba or the in-kernel Samba?


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  • From pinnerite@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jul 28 20:30:49 2023
    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 22:50:36 +0800
    "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/18/2023 4:05 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    I cannot get Windows 10 to see samba shares on my reincarnated Mint 21.1.

    I have tried every combination of min and max protocols.

    Windows XP on the same configuration does see the samba shares.

    Are you using the stanealone Samba or the in-kernel Samba?


    Just the regular client and server modules.


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