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    From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 09:47:16 2022
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 12:52:00 2022
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:47:16 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.


    And mirrors are getting new alpha1 isos, for example See:
    https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/cauldron/

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 13:25:36 2022
    On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

    You can also get it here:

    https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

    Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
    for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

    TJ

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 14:38:34 2022
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:52:00 -0500, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:47:16 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.
    And mirrors are getting new alpha1 isos, for example See:
    https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/cauldron/

    Also available from https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/alternative/#Cauldron

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 20:57:33 2022
    On 14/11/22 01:38, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    Also available from https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/alternative/#Cauldron

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    That is where I expected to find it. The one in LinuxTracker was
    probably put there by a user.

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 21:03:33 2022
    On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
    On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

    You can also get it here:

     https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

    Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
    for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

    TJ
    Understood. I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND normal ISOs.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Nov 13 21:24:17 2022
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
    On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

    You can also get it here:

    https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

    Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
    for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

    TJ
    Understood. I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND normal ISOs.

    https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.

    The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
    on a cd are the network iso images.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Daniel65@2:250/1 to All on Mon Nov 14 04:25:03 2022
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 14/11/22 8:24 am:
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
    <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
    normal  ISOs.

    https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.

    The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
    on a cd are the network iso images.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be available??

    The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??
    --
    Daniel

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Mon Nov 14 05:28:26 2022
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:25:03 -0500, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be available??
    The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??

    The schedule will be reviewed once we have a better idea how many problems
    are found with the first alpha and how serious they are.

    Off hand I expect it will sometime in January or February, but it depends
    a lot on what problems are found in alpha 1 testing.

    Testing upgrades from Mageia 8 to 9 and getting any problems found fixed will likely be a lot of the time needed based on past experience.

    There are still around 350 packages from Mageia 8 that are failing to build on Mageia 9 that either have to be fixed or dropped.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Mon Nov 14 11:24:34 2022
    On 14/11/22 08:24, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
    <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
    On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

    You can also get it here:

      https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

    Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
    for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

    TJ
    Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
    normal  ISOs.

    https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.

    The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
    on a cd are the network iso images.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
    normal ISOs. KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
    Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Mon Nov 14 17:00:05 2022
    On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 22:24:34 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 14/11/22 08:24, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
    <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
    On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

    You can also get it here:

      https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

    Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
    for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

    TJ
    Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND >>> normal  ISOs.

    https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.

    The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
    on a cd are the network iso images.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be normal ISOs. KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
    Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

    And if you want the newest and improvedest net install images qthere is https://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/9/x86_64/install/images/

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  • From Daniel65@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 15 08:49:09 2022
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 14/11/22 4:28 pm:
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:25:03 -0500, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be
    available?? The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??

    The schedule will be reviewed once we have a better idea how many
    problems are found with the first alpha and how serious they are.

    Understood.

    Off hand I expect it will sometime in January or February, but it
    depends a lot on what problems are found in alpha 1 testing.

    Thank you very much!!

    Testing upgrades from Mageia 8 to 9 and getting any problems found
    fixed will likely be a lot of the time needed based on past
    experience.

    There are still around 350 packages from Mageia 8 that are failing to
    build on Mageia 9 that either have to be fixed or dropped.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thank you.
    --
    Daniel

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 15 13:42:57 2022
    On 2022-11-14 06:24, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible. Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

    I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size of
    the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
    "nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to function
    with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware from
    nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.

    As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
    that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
    with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
    Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

    Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
    with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.

    TJ

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 15 15:02:24 2022
    On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:42:57 -0500, TJ wrote:

    As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
    that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
    with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
    Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.


    Yep, got tired of plasma buld and slow speed and switched to Xfce and
    made it look/feel like the older kde. Only ting I miss is the holiday
    schedule in the clock/calendar app.

    Using geany as my file editor.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 15 18:44:44 2022
    On 2022-11-15, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:42:57 -0500, TJ wrote:

    As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
    that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
    with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
    Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.


    Yep, got tired of plasma buld and slow speed and switched to Xfce and
    made it look/feel like the older kde. Only ting I miss is the holiday schedule in the clock/calendar app.

    Using geany as my file editor.

    Still using vi (vim) since I am constantly editing stuff on machines
    which are remote from me (eg this note is being composed on one 4000km
    away) and X is just horrendously slow over the net.
    Why vi? Because I learned it first and do not have the time to
    waste learning, say, emacs, is probably the reason.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Wed Nov 16 04:30:37 2022
    On 11/15/22 05:42, TJ wrote:
    On 2022-11-14 06:24, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to
    be normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
    Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

    I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size of
    the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the "nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to function
    with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware from
    nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.

    As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
    with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
    Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

    Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
    with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.

    TJ

    While I was using Mandriva in one of the good years I tried Gnome 2.4 and it was ok but the tools were not as reliable as those
    under KDE 3.5.x. I have tried to help people with Gnome after 3.2 and
    it was very difficult for me to use. I am currently happy with KDE's
    Plasma 5.26.3 on my PCLinuxOS.

    bliss
    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com


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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sat Dec 10 17:09:33 2022
    Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 11/15/22 05:42, TJ wrote:
    On 2022-11-14 06:24, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to
    be normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
    Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

    I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size
    of the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
    "nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to
    function with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware
    from nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.

    As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8,
    but that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to
    work with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I
    dislike Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

    Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
    with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.

    TJ

        While I was using Mandriva in one of the good years I tried Gnome
    2.4 and it was ok but the tools were not as reliable as those
    under KDE 3.5.x.  I have tried to help people with Gnome after 3.2 and
    it was very difficult for me to use.  I am currently happy with KDE's
    Plasma 5.26.3 on my PCLinuxOS.

        bliss

    I think Linux has a lot of graphic interfaces is not an advantage. On
    the contrary, there are numerous discussions about which one would be
    best. A discussion almost as useless as knowing the sex of angels.

    --

    Abraços

    Gilberto F da Silva

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