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  • Klipper a.k.a.Qlipper: clipboard manager

    From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Sun Sep 22 18:40:41 2019
    Been trying to set up a clipboard manager.
    Used to be Klipper, but seems to have morphed into Qlipper.

    On Mageia-7, installed Qlipper and put it in Panel, but when selected it appears to simply no-op, though it responds to R.click to see Properties.

    Can anyone throw some light on this, please>

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 26 07:27:51 2019
    On 23/9/19 3:40 am, Maurice wrote:
    Been trying to set up a clipboard manager.
    Used to be Klipper, but seems to have morphed into Qlipper.

    On Mageia-7, installed Qlipper and put it in Panel, but when selected it appears to simply no-op, though it responds to R.click to see Properties.

    Can anyone throw some light on this, please>

    Check the .desktop file for the panel launcher. I had something similar
    in Xfce.

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  • From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 26 12:00:29 2019
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:27:51 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Check the .desktop file for the panel launcher.

    Found qlipper.desktop in ~/.local/share/plasma-icons.

    Top lines are:

    [Desktop Entry]
    Terminal=false
    TryExec=qlipper
    Exec=qlipper
    Icon=qlipper
    Type=Application
    Categories=Qt;Utility;
    StartupNotify=false

    What change do you recommend?

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 26 14:50:00 2019
    On 26/9/19 9:00 pm, Maurice wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:27:51 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Check the .desktop file for the panel launcher.

    Found qlipper.desktop in ~/.local/share/plasma-icons.

    Top lines are:

    [Desktop Entry]
    Terminal=false
    TryExec=qlipper
    Exec=qlipper
    Icon=qlipper
    Type=Application
    Categories=Qt;Utility;
    StartupNotify=false

    What change do you recommend?

    Regards,

    I don't. It looks O.K., so you seem to have eliminated that cause. In
    my case, there was a bug in polkit.


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 26 15:02:17 2019
    On 9/22/19 1:40 PM, Maurice wrote:
    Been trying to set up a clipboard manager.
    Used to be Klipper, but seems to have morphed into Qlipper.

    On Mageia-7, installed Qlipper and put it in Panel, but when selected it appears to simply no-op, though it responds to R.click to see Properties.

    Can anyone throw some light on this, please>

    I installed Qlipper on my Plasma system, to check this out for you.

    If running Plasma, after running qlipper check the hidden icons in the systray. It's probably there, along with Plasma's Clipboard applet. It
    is on my system. I suspect it would be similar on other DEs.

    I'm sure it can be configured to autorun, if you want both applets.
    (Though I see little reason for two of them.) There's probably a way to disable Plasma's Clipboard applet, if Qlipper is what you prefer, but I haven't looked into it.

    TJ

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 26 19:25:46 2019
    On 26/9/19 11:50 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 26/9/19 9:00 pm, Maurice wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:27:51 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Check the .desktop file for the panel launcher.

       Found qlipper.desktop in ~/.local/share/plasma-icons.

       Top lines are:

         [Desktop Entry]
         Terminal=false
         TryExec=qlipper
         Exec=qlipper
         Icon=qlipper
         Type=Application
         Categories=Qt;Utility;
         StartupNotify=false

    What change do you recommend?

    Regards,

    I don't. It looks O.K., so you seem to have eliminated that cause.  In
    my case, there was a bug in polkit.

    I wasn't thinking straight. The .desktop file you found may be the main
    one, although being in ~/.local, I doubt it. A file in plasma-icons
    doesn't sound like one to start the app. There should be one in ..local/share/applications. The one I was talking about is the one
    associated with the desktop icon, not the menu. In Xfce, each icon has
    its own numbered folder, with a menu. But KDE may do things their own
    way. Like Windoze, they are big enough to ignore any rule they please.

    Secondly, you keep referring to Qlipper, with a capital Q, but TJ's test
    seems to suggest that there is no problem arising from case.

    Doug.

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 26 19:46:51 2019
    On 27/9/19 4:25 am, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 26/9/19 11:50 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 26/9/19 9:00 pm, Maurice wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:27:51 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Check the .desktop file for the panel launcher.

       Found qlipper.desktop in ~/.local/share/plasma-icons.

       Top lines are:

         [Desktop Entry]
         Terminal=false
         TryExec=qlipper
         Exec=qlipper
         Icon=qlipper
         Type=Application
         Categories=Qt;Utility;
         StartupNotify=false

    What change do you recommend?

    Regards,

    I don't. It looks O.K., so you seem to have eliminated that cause.  In
    my case, there was a bug in polkit.

    I wasn't thinking straight. The .desktop file you found may be the main
    one, although being  in ~/.local, I doubt it.  A file in plasma-icons doesn't sound like one to start the app.  There should be one in .local/share/applications.  The one I was talking about is the one associated with the desktop icon, not the menu.  In Xfce, each icon has
    its own numbered folder, with a menu.  But KDE may do things their own way.  Like Windoze, they are big enough to ignore any rule they please.

    Secondly, you keep referring to Qlipper, with a capital Q, but TJ's test seems to suggest that there is no problem arising from case.

    Doug.

    ..local/share/icons may be where Plasma puts its .desktop files for
    desktop buttons. Does it need to be executable?


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Fri Sep 27 01:59:57 2019
    On 9/26/19 2:25 PM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Secondly, you keep referring to Qlipper, with a capital Q, but TJ's test seems to suggest that there is no problem arising from case.


    The Plasma menu lists it as "Qlipper" but the command to execute it is "qlipper".

    Running it again from the menu does as before, "Qlipper" appears as one
    of the hidden icons in the systray. However, it does seem to want to
    conflict with Plasma's Clipboard app.

    I don't use the clipboard manager often, but when I do, I don't need a conflict going on. I'll be removing Qlipper ASAP.

    TJ


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  • From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Fri Sep 27 15:47:51 2019
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:02:17 -0400, TJ wrote:

    If running Plasma, after running qlipper check the hidden icons in the systray. It's probably there, . It
    is on my system. I suspect it would be similar on other DEs.

    Oh, it is in the systray, but - as I said - doesn't do anything!

    along with Plasma's Clipboard applet

    Well I'm running Plasma Mga7 but was not aware that 'Plasma' has a
    separate clipboard manager (i.e. different from qlipper).
    How does one install that?

    Nor do I understand why the following attempt to start qlipper reacts
    as shown:

    $ qlipper
    Translator is not loaded "qlipper_en_GB" "/usr/share/qlipper/translations"

    Check:
    $ cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
    DISPLAYMANAGER=sddm


    Regards,

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sat Sep 28 23:13:06 2019
    On 9/27/19 10:47 AM, Maurice wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:02:17 -0400, TJ wrote:

    If running Plasma, after running qlipper check the hidden icons in the
    systray. It's probably there, . It
    is on my system. I suspect it would be similar on other DEs.

    Oh, it is in the systray, but - as I said - doesn't do anything!

    along with Plasma's Clipboard applet

    Well I'm running Plasma Mga7 but was not aware that 'Plasma' has a separate clipboard manager (i.e. different from qlipper).
    How does one install that?

    No idea. It was installed for me as part of the M7 Plasma install back
    in January. Look for an icon in the systray that looks like, well, a clipboard. Mine happens to be with the hidden icons, so I don't
    regularly see it.

    If you don't see it, try right-clicking on the up arrow in the systray
    and select "Configure System Tray." Under "General" you should see a
    list of items with checkboxes next to them. "Clipboard" is in the "Extra Items" list. Make sure it is checked.

    Nor do I understand why the following attempt to start qlipper reacts
    as shown:

    $ qlipper
    Translator is not loaded "qlipper_en_GB" "/usr/share/qlipper/translations"

    Check:
    $ cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
    DISPLAYMANAGER=sddm



    I don't understand that one, either. Could be a bug.

    TJ

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Sun Sep 29 02:22:43 2019
    On 27.09.2019 at 14:47, Maurice scribbled:

    On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:02:17 -0400, TJ wrote:
    =20
    If running Plasma, after running qlipper check the hidden icons in
    the systray. It's probably there, . It
    is on my system. I suspect it would be similar on other DEs. =20
    =20
    Oh, it is in the systray, but - as I said - doesn't do anything!
    =20
    along with Plasma's Clipboard applet =20
    =20
    Well I'm running Plasma Mga7 but was not aware that 'Plasma' has a=20 separate clipboard manager (i.e. different from qlipper).=20
    How does one install that?

    It's the same clipboard manager, but you can install it on the panel as
    a separate widget, as opposed to that it would be part of the system
    tray.

    Right-click the panel and choose "Unlock widgets", then right-click the
    panel again and choose "add widgets". It /should/ normally be in the
    list.

    Likewise for the volume control, although there are several
    different volume controls available. Personally I prefer the one
    called "Win7 mixer" =E2=80=94 I have no idea whether it resembles a Windows volume control because I don't do Windows =E2=80=94 because it has vertical sliders, which I find more intuitive to use than the horizontal sliders
    in the default volume control.

    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Mon Sep 30 12:29:26 2019
    On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:22:43 +0200, Aragorn wrote:

    choose "add widgets". It /should/ normally be in the list.

    Not there!

    Regards,
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  • From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Mon Sep 30 12:32:41 2019
    On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 18:13:06 -0400, TJ wrote:

    try right-clicking on the up arrow in the systray and select "Configure System Tray." Under "General" you should see a list of items with
    checkboxes next to them. "Clipboard" is in the "Extra Items" list. Make
    sure it is checked.

    Already ticked...

    Regards,
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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Mon Sep 30 17:55:48 2019
    On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:29:26 -0400, Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:22:43 +0200, Aragorn wrote:
    choose "add widgets". It /should/ normally be in the list.

    Not there!
    Regards,

    Do you have the package qlipper installed?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Mon Sep 30 18:07:54 2019
    On 9/30/19 12:55 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:29:26 -0400, Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:22:43 +0200, Aragorn wrote:
    choose "add widgets".  It /should/ normally be in the list.

      Not there!
    Regards,

    Do you have the package qlipper installed?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Dave, qlipper and the Plasma clipboard app must be different packages. I
    don't have qlipper installed, yet the Plasma Clipboard app is on all my
    Plasma systems.

    A thread from the KDE forum from 2015 indicates that Klipper was moved
    to be part of the plasmashell process:

    https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=128086

    I don't know why Maurice isn't seeing it.

    TJ

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  • From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 3 12:17:44 2019
    On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:55:48 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:

    Do you have the package qlipper installed?


    # urpmi qlipper
    Package qlipper-5.1.2-2.mga7.x86_64 is already installed

    Regards,

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  • From Maurice@2:250/1 to All on Thu Oct 3 12:23:34 2019
    On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:07:54 -0400, TJ wrote:

    A thread from the KDE forum from 2015 indicates that Klipper was moved
    to be part of the plasmashell process:

    - now being handled in:

    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352171

    - so will keep an eye on its progress.

    Seems an unusual mix-up...

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