• sddm login manager

    From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 9 19:41:55 2022
    Today I am trying to put my installation of Mageia 8 in production. That
    is, to use it as my distribution to my daily tasks.

    In another distribution I use Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return to GUI but in the
    Mageia I return by Ctrl-Alt-F1. I would like it to be Ctrl-ALT-F7 for
    already accustomed to this combination.

    I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:

    Minimumvt = 7

    But there was no effect.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 9 20:13:21 2022
    On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
    I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
    Minimumvt = 7
    But there was no effect.

    Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be MinimumVT=

    Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 9 21:44:30 2022
    David W. Hodgins escreveu:
    On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
    <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
    I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
    Minimumvt = 7
    But there was no effect.

    Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be MinimumVT=

    Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

    Thanks for answering.

    If the line is left without a number, the value 1 will be assigned automatically.

    A copy and past from /etc/sddm.conf:
    ....
    MinimumVT=7
    # Minimum virtual terminal number that will be used by the first
    display. Virtual terminal number will increase as new displays added.
    #Default value is 1.
    ....

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 9 23:10:04 2022
    David W. Hodgins escreveu:
    On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
    <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
    I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
    Minimumvt = 7
    But there was no effect.

    Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be MinimumVT=

    Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

    I missed typing here but in the configuration file it is correct. I just
    put the "7".


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    Giilberto F da Silva

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jan 10 20:24:49 2022
    On 10/1/22 10:10, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
    David W. Hodgins escreveu:
    On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
    <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
    I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
    Minimumvt = 7
    But there was no effect.

    Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be
    MinimumVT=

    Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

    I missed typing here but in the configuration file it is correct. I just
    put the "7".




    Interesting, Gilberto.

    I had wondered about that GUI terminal change but never investigated it

    I have also wondered about starting a GUI in each terminal running a
    different desktop.
    Completely pointless, of course, but it can be done

    Regards

    --
    faeychild
    Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.11-desktop-3.mga8 kernel.
    Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso


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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jan 10 21:07:37 2022
    On 11.01.2022 at 07:24, faeychild scribbled:

    On 10/1/22 10:10, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
    David W. Hodgins escreveu: =20
    On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
    <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote: =20
    I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
    Minimumvt =3D 7
    But there was no effect. =20

    Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it
    should be MinimumVT=3D

    Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive. =20
    =20
    I missed typing here but in the configuration file it is correct. I
    just put the "7".
    =20
    Interesting, Gilberto.
    =20
    I had wondered about that GUI terminal change but never investigated
    it

    If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
    systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with Plasma as
    the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at tty1. =20

    This is however not the case for the XFCE desktop. In Arch and its
    various derivatives, XFCE (with lightdm as the display manager) runs at
    tty7, and I believe GNOME with GDM runs at tty4.

    In non-systemd-based distributions, SDDM commonly still runs at tty7,
    as it used to be.

    systemd-udev also initializes the other virtual ttys on demand only,
    i.e. they are only created when you switch to them =E2=80=94 with the excep= tion
    of tty12 if you have journald set up to mirror its log to tty12 (which
    is not the default setting).

    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 12 21:07:08 2022
    On 11/1/22 08:07, Aragorn wrote:


    If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
    systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with Plasma as
    the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at tty1.



    You have got to love standards, Aragorn
    we have so many

    We are greatly reassured that there are only two possible sides of the
    road to drive on


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    Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.11-desktop-3.mga8 kernel.
    Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso


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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 13 01:14:44 2022
    On 13.01.2022 at 08:07, faeychild scribbled:

    On 11/1/22 08:07, Aragorn wrote:

    If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
    systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with
    Plasma as the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at
    tty1.

    You have got to love standards, Aragorn
    we have so many

    ;)

    We are greatly reassured that there are only two possible sides of
    the road to drive on

    And yet all the time, people appear to be buying vehicles intended for
    off-road use, and then never taking them off-road. :p

    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 16 14:33:07 2022
    On 13/1/22 12:14, Aragorn wrote:
    On 13.01.2022 at 08:07, faeychild scribbled:

    On 11/1/22 08:07, Aragorn wrote:

    If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
    systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with
    Plasma as the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at
    tty1.

    You have got to love standards, Aragorn
    we have so many

    ;)

    We are greatly reassured that there are only two possible sides of
    the road to drive on

    And yet all the time, people appear to be buying vehicles intended for off-road use, and then never taking them off-road. :p

    I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name of
    the last distro I booted into. Like another user, I reverted to Lightdm.

    Interestingly, I looked up a comparison of login managers. Their first comment about sddm is that it is inclined to be buggy.

    https://www.slant.co/topics/2053/~best-linux-display-manager

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 16 21:02:41 2022
    On 17.01.2022 at 01:33, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name
    of the last distro I booted into.

    I'm afraid you've got a number of things mixed up. SDDM is a display
    and login manager. It doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with what distribution you're logged into.

    You're probably thinking of the GRUB screen.

    Like another user, I reverted to Lightdm.

    Interestingly, I looked up a comparison of login managers. Their
    first comment about sddm is that it is inclined to be buggy.

    https://www.slant.co/topics/2053/~best-linux-display-manager

    Over at the Manjaro forum, lightdm is the one we're seeing the most
    problems with, and especially so the people with Nvidia hardware.

    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 19 12:56:45 2022
    On 17/1/22 08:02, Aragorn wrote:
    On 17.01.2022 at 01:33, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name
    of the last distro I booted into.

    I'm afraid you've got a number of things mixed up. SDDM is a display
    and login manager. It doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with what distribution you're logged into.

    No, the only place where I use sddm is in Mageia 8. Once again,
    correlation does not prove cause and effect.

    sddm should retain the setting for the last DE that I used, but it
    refused to. To me, that sounds like a problem with sddm. I mentioned
    that I had a problem as well with Virtualbox being unable to load its
    kernel driver. A new kernel that has just come down fixed that; maybe
    it has fixed sddm as well. I am about to find out.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 19 17:11:17 2022
    On 2022-01-19, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
    On 17/1/22 08:02, Aragorn wrote:
    On 17.01.2022 at 01:33, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

    I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name
    of the last distro I booted into.

    I'm afraid you've got a number of things mixed up. SDDM is a display
    and login manager. It doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with what
    distribution you're logged into.

    No, the only place where I use sddm is in Mageia 8. Once again,
    correlation does not prove cause and effect.

    As far as I know, sddm is the default dm for KDE-Plasma. That is distro-agnositc. That you happen to be using it on YOUR Mageia install
    and not on your other installs has nothing to do with Mageia or with
    sddm.

    sddm should retain the setting for the last DE that I used, but it
    refused to. To me, that sounds like a problem with sddm. I mentioned
    I do not have that problem on Mageia 8, so that suggests that the
    problem is with your installation, not with Mageia 8 or sddm.

    that I had a problem as well with Virtualbox being unable to load its
    kernel driver. A new kernel that has just come down fixed that; maybe
    it has fixed sddm as well. I am about to find out.

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 19 22:29:48 2022
    On 1/19/22 07:56, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    sddm should retain the setting for the last DE that I used, but it
    refused to.  To me, that sounds like a problem with sddm.  I mentioned that I had a problem as well with Virtualbox being unable to load its
    kernel driver.  A new kernel that has just come down fixed that; maybe
    it has fixed sddm as well.  I am about to find out.

    That was fixed back in March. See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28378.

    The problem was with the /etc/sddm.conf file. It was fixed with that
    update, but it involved changing a user conf file, so because of Mageia policy, when the user got the update he was given the option of using
    the new configuration, or retaining the old one.

    It sounds like you chose the "do nothing" option when given that choice.
    But, you can fix it yourself. As root, load /etc/sddm.conf into your
    favorite text editor. Look for a line that says
    "RememberLastSession=false" and change the "false" to "true" and save
    the file.

    That should take care of it for you.

    TJ

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