• Dual-booting Windows 11

    From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sat Nov 6 06:02:55 2021
    Trust Microsoft to have another try at excluding any opposition :(

    New computers are now shipping with Windows 11. Windows 11 has two requirements for existing computers, TPM and Secure Boot. TPM is
    already on my motherboard under a different name, but switched off, and
    the Windows "are-you-ready" test couldn't find it. If TPM is not
    installed, apparently, there is a header for later installation.

    Secure Boot sounds like more of a problem. For dual-booting Linux with Windows 10, it could be disabled. With Windows 11, it must be enabled,
    or Windows won't run. In theory, Secure Boot doesn't exist to lock out
    other OS's; any OS could create a signature file, but I have heard of
    only one Linux distro that has a signature for Secure Boot. Now, it
    seems, the others must follow suit.

    Personally, I could manage with Windows 8.1, which is still supported.
    I use Windows only when I have no alternative. My biggest problem is
    with genealogy. The program for Linux, Gramps, is unlike anything
    written for Windows. It is now available to Windows users, and I have
    seen one or two using it. Roots Magic runs well under Crossover Office,
    but like Gramps, it doesn't put the data entry screen (or any link to
    it) anywhere obvious.

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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Sat Nov 6 14:36:51 2021
    On Sat, 06 Nov 2021 17:02:55 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Trust Microsoft to have another try at excluding any opposition :(

    New computers are now shipping with Windows 11. Windows 11 has two requirements for existing computers, TPM and Secure Boot. TPM is
    already on my motherboard under a different name, but switched off, and
    the Windows "are-you-ready" test couldn't find it. If TPM is not
    installed, apparently, there is a header for later installation.

    Secure Boot sounds like more of a problem. For dual-booting Linux with Windows 10, it could be disabled. With Windows 11, it must be enabled,
    or Windows won't run. In theory, Secure Boot doesn't exist to lock out other OS's; any OS could create a signature file, but I have heard of
    only one Linux distro that has a signature for Secure Boot. Now, it
    seems, the others must follow suit.

    Personally, I could manage with Windows 8.1, which is still supported.
    I use Windows only when I have no alternative. My biggest problem is
    with genealogy. The program for Linux, Gramps, is unlike anything
    written for Windows. It is now available to Windows users, and I have
    seen one or two using it. Roots Magic runs well under Crossover Office,
    but like Gramps, it doesn't put the data entry screen (or any link to
    it) anywhere obvious.

    Are you aware of Geneweb? Distributed under the GNU General Public
    License, it is available for Unix, Linux, Microsoft Windows and macOS.

    I have been using it for 15 or 20 years now. The last time I updated
    was to gw-6.0 which provided version 6.05. The update to 6.07 did
    not seem worth the trouble to install, and for some years there was
    little work on the program. That now seems to have changed, and I
    am thinking of installing version 7.00, exporting my main database
    as a .ged or .gw database, and then importing that to see if it
    works well.

    The downloads are here. I could not log onto the server that has
    rpm versions for Fedora.

    https://geneweb.tuxfamily.org/wiki/download

    Other webpages of possible interest:
    https://geneweb.tuxfamily.org/
    http://pauillac.inria.fr/~ddr/GeneWeb/en/

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sat Nov 6 14:57:45 2021
    On 11/5/21 23:02, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    Trust Microsoft to have another try at excluding any opposition :(

    New computers are now shipping with Windows 11.  Windows 11 has two requirements for existing computers, TPM and Secure Boot.  TPM is
    already on my motherboard under a different name, but switched off, and
    the Windows "are-you-ready" test couldn't find it.  If TPM is not installed, apparently, there is a header for later installation.

    Secure Boot sounds like more of a problem.  For dual-booting Linux with Windows 10, it could be disabled.  With Windows 11, it must be enabled,
    or Windows won't run.  In theory, Secure Boot doesn't exist to lock out other OS's; any OS could create a signature file, but I have heard of
    only one Linux distro that has a signature for Secure Boot.  Now, it
    seems, the others must follow suit.

    Personally, I could manage with Windows 8.1, which is still supported. I
    use Windows only when I have no alternative.  My biggest problem is with genealogy.  The program for Linux, Gramps, is unlike anything written
    for Windows.  It is now available to Windows users, and I have seen one
    or two using it.  Roots Magic runs well under Crossover Office, but like Gramps, it doesn't put the data entry screen (or any link to it)
    anywhere obvious.

    Jim how about running Windows in a VirtualBox?
    You can download a Windows image. And unless something
    is strange even with a Windows 11 install you cam access the
    BIOS/Firware and switch the secure boot on before you run
    Windows.

    As for the TPM it is obsolete already.> Windows 11 has that as a
    requirement a chip or module
    that holds security information but some experts think
    that approach is already obsolete. TSM has to be accessed
    by software which means that attackers can get to the same
    information.
    If you want to read more about this go to the following URL.

    <https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/forget-tpm-chips-for-windows-11-thats-not-even-the-half-of-it>

    Whatever you do and you could install a Windows system to
    an external drive to boot up from good luck with your problem.


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 23 09:07:24 2021
    On 7/11/21 01:36, Jim wrote:
    Are you aware of Geneweb? Distributed under the GNU General Public
    License, it is available for Unix, Linux, Microsoft Windows and macOS.

    Yes, Jim, you mentioned it to me some time ago. I keep my family tree
    in various places, including Geneanet. I have looked at Geneweb a few
    times. Although it will accept GEDCOMs, it prefers its own equivalent.
    There don't seem to be as many opportunities to add events, etc. to the
    entry screen to add a person, but that could be my unfamiliarty with it.
    I have stayed with Geneanet because it gives me the best way to pick
    errors. Geneanet recently announced that they were combining with Ancestry.com. It seems that their opposition has joined MyHeritage, so
    they decided that they had to do something to survive.

    I started with Legacy Family Tree, because they had a free version,
    quite adequate for a beginner. It now seems to be acknowledged as the
    best. I can run it under Linux using Crossover Office, but some things
    don't work. RootsMagic is better in this regard. Legacy and Geneweb
    start up with a screen to enter a new individual, while RootsMagic and
    Gramps both hide it somewhere.

    Doug.

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  • From Herman Viaene@2:250/1 to All on Tue Nov 23 14:27:10 2021
    Op Tue, 23 Nov 2021 20:07:24 +1100, schreef Doug Laidlaw:

    .....snip...
    Legacy and Geneweb
    start up with a screen to enter a new individual, while RootsMagic and
    Gramps both hide it somewhere.


    What do you mean "Gramps hide it somwhere"??? Click on "Persons" and there
    is a big green "+" sign with tooltip "Add a person". Allow me for some wordings, I run mine in Dutch.
    I have used its export functions to upload my data to Geneanet.

    Herman Viaene



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