• Unrecognised warning message

    From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 1 16:34:35 2021
    I found the following in my mail box:
    <
    From: root@localhost
    Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
    X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
    Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
    Status: R

    Load is huge: 3.58

    Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search
    target. Any ideas why/what?
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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 1 17:32:26 2021
    On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 11:34:35 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I found the following in my mail box:
    <
    From: root@localhost
    Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
    X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
    Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
    Status: R

    Load is huge: 3.58

    Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search target. Any ideas why/what?

    https://www.howtogeek.com/194642/understanding-the-load-average-on-linux-and-other-unix-like-systems/

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From red floyd@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 1 17:39:59 2021
    On 9/1/2021 9:32 AM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 11:34:35 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I found the following in my mail box:
    <
    From: root@localhost
    Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
    X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
    Date: Wed,  1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
    Status: R

    Load is huge: 3.58
    ;
    Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search
    target. Any ideas why/what?

    https://www.howtogeek.com/194642/understanding-the-load-average-on-linux-and-other-unix-like-systems/


    What kind of system considers a 3.58 load average as huge?

    [Begin Old Man Rant]
    Back in the '80s, my university ran BSD 4.2 (not Open/Free/Net, but
    the original) on a Vax 11/780. Load average was probably around 7,
    but during the last week of the semester it averaged 30+, with spikes
    to 70... and it DID NOT CRASH.



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 1 18:37:08 2021
    On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 12:39:59 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
    What kind of system considers a 3.58 load average as huge?

    A single or dual core system. On my qaud core ...
    $ uptime
    13:32:56 up 2 days, 20:28, 2 users, load average: 0.94, 0.85, 0.86

    Unlike old systems from back in the 80's, the bulk of the processes are used to provide interactive responses, so someone is sitting there waiting for them when they are running or waiting to run.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From red floyd@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 1 20:11:55 2021
    On 9/1/2021 10:37 AM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 12:39:59 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
    What kind of system considers a 3.58 load average as huge?

    A single or dual core system. On my qaud core ...
    $ uptime
     13:32:56 up 2 days, 20:28,  2 users,  load average: 0.94, 0.85, 0.86

    Unlike old systems from back in the 80's, the bulk of the processes are
    used to
    provide interactive responses, so someone is sitting there waiting for them when they are running or waiting to run.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    I did warn that it was an "Old Man Rant"....


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 1 20:18:05 2021
    On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:11:55 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
    I did warn that it was an "Old Man Rant"....

    My first programming started in 75 with optical sense cards and later, card punches.
    :-)

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 2 16:57:14 2021
    On 01/09/2021 16:34, Grimble wrote:
    I found the following in my mail box:
    <
    From: root@localhost
    Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
    X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
    Date: Wed,  1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
    Status: R

    Load is huge: 3.58

    Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search target. Any ideas why/what?
    Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
    running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
    be worried about.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 2 20:28:40 2021
    On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:57:14 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
    running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
    be worried about.

    Correct. There are a lot of legacy warnings built in that should be reviewed. In this case it dates back to when dual core systems were a novelty. As they are just cosmetic, that's not a high priority.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 2 21:21:49 2021
    On 9/2/21 12:28, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:57:14 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
    running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
    be worried about.

    Correct. There are a lot of legacy warnings built in that should be reviewed.
    In this case it dates back to when dual core systems were a novelty. As
    they
    are just cosmetic, that's not a high priority.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    And you may get better result as you move to 5.14.x which has modification specifically directed toward the new Ryzen processors from
    AMD.
    You can read more about and adventurous people no not me have
    already compiled and tested the RC on their Ryzen machnes. <https://9to5linux.com/linux-kernel-5-14-officially-released-this-is-whats-new>


    bliss don't use Mageia but has and honors its ancestors.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Sep 3 17:47:26 2021
    On 2021-09-01, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:11:55 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
    I did warn that it was an "Old Man Rant"....

    My first programming started in 75 with optical sense cards and later, card punches.
    :-)

    For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
    switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It did multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables (Addresses 100-200 for addition
    and 200-400 for multiplication if I recall correctly. So 1+1 could well
    be 5 if you wanted.)


    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Sep 3 22:45:13 2021
    On 4/9/21 2:47 am, William Unruh wrote:

    For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
    switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It did multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables (Addresses 100-200 for addition
    and 200-400 for multiplication if I recall correctly. So 1+1 could well
    be 5 if you wanted.)


    I once heard that 2 X 2 = 5
    but only for extremely large values of 2




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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Fri Sep 3 23:22:35 2021
    On 04.09.2021 at 07:45, faeychild scribbled:

    On 4/9/21 2:47 am, William Unruh wrote:

    For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It
    did multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables
    (Addresses 100-200 for addition and 200-400 for multiplication if I
    recall correctly. So 1+1 could well be 5 if you wanted.)


    I once heard that 2 X 2 = 5
    but only for extremely large values of 2

    Well, in some of the early Pentium processors, 4/2 was actually
    1.99999... :p

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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Sat Sep 4 14:49:47 2021
    On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 07:45:13 +1000, faeychild wrote:

    On 4/9/21 2:47 am, William Unruh wrote:

    For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
    switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It did
    multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables (Addresses
    100-200 for addition and 200-400 for multiplication if I recall
    correctly. So 1+1 could well be 5 if you wanted.)


    I once heard that 2 X 2 = 5 but only for extremely large values of 2

    Try 2.3 + 2.3 = 4.6 which rounds off to 5.

    Or 2.6 + 2.6 = 5.2 trunctated to one digit yields 5.

    As the tax attorney presented with a sample case by a
    prospective client proposed, "What would you like the
    tax to be?"

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  • From Daniel65@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 23 08:24:00 2021
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/9/21 5:28 am:
    On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:57:14 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
    running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
    be worried about.

    Correct. There are a lot of legacy warnings built in that should be reviewed.
    In this case it dates back to when dual core systems were a novelty. As
    they
    are just cosmetic, that's not a high priority.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    .... and, in this day and age when six or more cores are common, could we again say "dual core systems were a novelty"?? ;-P
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