• Installing "obsolete" applications

    From Ar@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jul 22 17:24:44 2021
    I heavily used kaudiocreator as the best CD ripper, recently moved to
    Mageia 8, I find it has been deleted. I found a Mageia 7 repo and I
    tried to install it, and it came up with:

    urpmi /home/Someuser/kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    installing kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm from /home/Someuser
    Installation failed: kaudiocreator < 1.3-8.git20191114.4 is obsoleted by (installed) task-obsolete-8-294.mga8.noarch


    Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
    used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jul 22 19:43:47 2021
    On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:24:44 -0400, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:
    I heavily used kaudiocreator as the best CD ripper, recently moved to
    Mageia 8, I find it has been deleted. I found a Mageia 7 repo and I
    tried to install it, and it came up with:
    urpmi /home/Someuser/kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm installing kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm from /home/Someuser
    Installation failed: kaudiocreator < 1.3-8.git20191114.4 is obsoleted by (installed) task-obsolete-8-294.mga8.noarch
    Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
    used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

    Short answer is no. Long answer is that it may work if you force it's installation
    by removing the obsoletes package first (urpme task-obsolete), however installing
    kaudiocreator is likely to break the plasma installation on that system. That's due
    to the package requiring old libraries that interfere with other plasma packages.

    As the package https://github.com/KDE/kaudiocreator hasn't been maintained for years, kde.org chose to drop the package. The recommendation is to use one of the
    other tools such as k3b or soundkonverter instead.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jul 24 00:31:46 2021
    On 23/7/21 2:24 am, Ar wrote:

    Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
    used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

    I have a similar problem with dvdstyler. Fortunately I have a Mageia 6 partition to run it in.

    I think that being on the cusp of optical disk obsolescence makes it
    less of a problem

    Handbrake is able to rip DVD's not that I've done it

    Also K3b will rip DVD's. In the Advanced section of the Copy dialog
    checking "Ignore Read Errors" has gotten me past copy protection and
    the resulting "ISO" file has played flawlessly when the original DVD
    would not (region errors)

    Regards
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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jul 24 04:00:24 2021
    On 2021-07-23, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/7/21 2:24 am, Ar wrote:

    Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
    used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

    I have a similar problem with dvdstyler. Fortunately I have a Mageia 6 partition to run it in.

    I think that being on the cusp of optical disk obsolescence makes it
    less of a problem

    Handbrake is able to rip DVD's not that I've done it

    Also K3b will rip DVD's. In the Advanced section of the Copy dialog checking "Ignore Read Errors" has gotten me past copy protection and
    the resulting "ISO" file has played flawlessly when the original DVD
    would not (region errors)

    And even better if you get k3b to use cdrecord (cdrtools) instead of wodin(cdrkit).
    But yes, optical disks are disappering.


    Regards

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jul 25 00:16:12 2021
    On 24/7/21 1:00 pm, William Unruh wrote:


    And even better if you get k3b to use cdrecord (cdrtools) instead of wodin(cdrkit).
    But yes, optical disks are disappering.


    Regards

    That has been on my back burner for years.
    I know that someone had a script to install cdrecord and install the links.
    The way things are going, though, it may be like the horse trough and
    hitching rail I always meant to set up :-)

    regards


    faeychild
    Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.10.41-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
    Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jul 25 01:08:48 2021
    On 2021-07-24, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 24/7/21 1:00 pm, William Unruh wrote:


    And even better if you get k3b to use cdrecord (cdrtools) instead of wodin(cdrkit).
    But yes, optical disks are disappering.


    Regards

    That has been on my back burner for years.
    I know that someone had a script to install cdrecord and install the links. The way things are going, though, it may be like the horse trough and hitching rail I always meant to set up :-)

    You can download cdrtools source from the OpenMageia web site http://rpmfind.net/linux/openmandriva/4.2/repository/x86_64/main/release/

    cdrtools-3.02-5-omv4002.x86_64.rpm



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jul 25 02:15:39 2021
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    On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:16:12 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    That has been on my back burner for years.
    I know that someone had a script to install cdrecord and install the links. The way things are going, though, it may be like the horse trough and hitching rail I always meant to set up :-)

    The script is attached. I stopped replacing failed dvd drives (they don't like heavy cigarette smokers) and haven't tried the script in years. No idea what changes it may need to work with Mageia 8.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 26 00:10:38 2021
    On 25/7/21 11:15 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    The script is attached. I stopped replacing failed dvd drives (they
    don't like

    Well an open vented construction and fans pulling in dust laden air is
    always a problem with CD drives The lens cleaner can only do so much

    heavy cigarette smokers) and haven't tried the script in years. No idea
    what
    changes it may need to work with Mageia 8.
    ..

    I found that I have an older copy also. The newer one is greater by 322
    bytes. It can't hurt to have it.

    Thanks


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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jul 29 00:23:48 2021
    Ar wrote:
    I heavily used kaudiocreator as the best CD ripper, recently moved to
    Mageia 8, I find it has been deleted. I found a Mageia 7 repo and I
    tried to install it, and it came up with:

    urpmi /home/Someuser/kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    installing kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm from /home/Someuser
    Installation failed: kaudiocreator < 1.3-8.git20191114.4 is obsoleted by (installed) task-obsolete-8-294.mga8.noarch


    Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
    used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

    When I asked for Superkaramba, someone said he was a dead program.

    After some time they indicated the TDE, he owns the Superkaramba and
    probably many other old programs. Unfortunately, the Mageia version is
    with bug. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php

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