• boot failure after update

    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Apr 8 08:41:51 2021


    A couple of days ago I allowed an update which included kernel and
    nvidia driver

    The reboot failed at a message

    20.7903911 IFWLOG register target

    I tried to boot an alternate installation (partition) mga6. It failed at
    the same point. Quite odd because they are separate installs

    While I didn't take notes in the panic, I did update mga6 with the
    install media which defaulted to the hardware setup and I reset the
    graphics.

    MGA7 reset itself also

    The system seemed to recover and all was well until I discovered today
    that I was using the nouveau driver.

    So while failing to take precautions I ran MCC and installed the nvidia
    driver and once again had the boot failure.

    Rinse and repeat

    I also tried running drakx11 from the VT and selected vesa.
    The graphics system failed to start with the onscreen warning to run
    drakx11.

    What puzzles me is that the graphics failure is global MGA6 and MGA7
    both failed to start and both being on separate partitions they should
    be independent.

    The last act was to reinstall update MGA6 - I can't find MGA7 media -
    run the graphics setup and reboot.

    Once again

    This has corrected MGA7 which now boots but with the nouveau driver.

    I don't dare try again.

    In the meantime I will make a new MGA7 install media.


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Apr 8 23:31:47 2021
    On 8/4/21 5:41 pm, faeychild wrote:


    A couple of days ago I allowed an update which included kernel and
    nvidia driver

    OK after a few blind alleys I think I may need to add "noksmboot" option
    to the kernel parameters.

    During boot I select the menu option and press "e" and get a list of
    the kernel options and the kernel command line.
    But I have no cursor, no way to select the line and edit it.
    What am I missing her?


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 9 01:19:32 2021
    On 4/8/21 3:31 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 8/4/21 5:41 pm, faeychild wrote:


    A couple of days ago I allowed an update which included kernel and
    nvidia driver

    OK after a few blind alleys I think I may need to add "noksmboot" option
    to the kernel parameters.

    During boot I select  the menu option and press "e" and get a list of
    the kernel options and the kernel command line.
    But I have no cursor, no way to select the line and edit it.
    What am I missing her?

    Use your cursor keys and you may see the cursor move as it
    is at the beginning of the top line. At least so on my Linux system.

    bliss - “Nearly any fool can use a Linux computer. Many do.” After all
    here I am...

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 9 03:03:29 2021
    On 9/4/21 10:19 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


        Use your cursor keys and you may see the cursor move as it
    is at the beginning of the top line.  At least so on my Linux system.

        bliss - “Nearly any fool can use a Linux computer. Many do.” After
    all here I am...



    Instructions from Google indicate that the cursor is just an underscore symbol. Probably why I missed it.
    I am waiting for an opportunity to check again. I am currently rendering
    video files and need a window to possibly re-trash the system :-)

    The update applet is already signaling a new kernel but before all that
    I will try the nokmsboot option - sometime today.


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 9 05:55:45 2021
    On 9/4/21 12:03 pm, faeychild wrote:


    I allowed the new update with the 5.10.27-desktop-1.mga7 #1 SMP kernel

    Unfortunately it is still using the nouveau driver

    lsmod | grep nouveau
    nouveau 2306048 14
    mxm_wmi 16384 1 nouveau
    wmi 36864 2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
    i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 nouveau
    ttm 114688 1 nouveau
    drm_kms_helper 262144 1 nouveau
    video 53248 1 nouveau
    button 24576 1 nouveau
    drm 593920 17 drm_kms_helper,ttm,nouveau


    If I use MCC to install the Nvidia driver the system fails to boot

    I added "nokmsboot" to the kernel command from the grub boot menu and
    the boot still fails.


    I's nouveau or nothing

    I've run out of ideas!

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 9 06:38:56 2021
    On 4/8/21 9:55 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 9/4/21 12:03 pm, faeychild wrote:


    I allowed the new update with the 5.10.27-desktop-1.mga7 #1 SMP kernel

    Unfortunately it is still using the nouveau driver

    lsmod | grep nouveau
    nouveau              2306048  14 mxm_wmi                16384  1 nouveau wmi                    36864  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 nouveau ttm                   114688  1 nouveau drm_kms_helper        262144  1 nouveau video                  53248  1 nouveau button                 24576  1 nouveau drm                   593920  17 drm_kms_helper,ttm,nouveau


    If I use MCC to install the Nvidia driver the system fails to boot

    I added "nokmsboot" to the kernel command from the grub boot menu and
    the boot still fails.


    I's nouveau or nothing

    I've run out of ideas!


    Have you tried blacklisting Noveau and whitelisting nVidea?
    If you look on the web or forum you might get more intormation on
    what is involved but I think I heard that displacing Noveau is
    a task. I only had to due it once years ago on Mandriva.

    Good luck and take some time away from this specific problem.

    Bliss

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 9 06:50:46 2021
    On 9/4/21 2:55 pm, faeychild wrote:


    I may have a hardware problem
    I am reasonable convinced that I used the Nvidia 340 drivers and I found
    that they are now deprecated

    ********

    Unfortunately we are dropping the R340 "nvidia340" driver due to
    security issues in the NVIDIA binary blob. Several affected GPUs
    supported by the updated R390 driver will be switched over from R340.
    Where that does not happen, nouveau will be used. If you see problems
    try X11 vesa driver; try editing the first boot menu entry and change "xdriver=free" to "xdriver=vesa".

    *******


    My graphics card is identified as Geforce 635 or higher

    I may have to upgrade or stay with nouveau

    regards

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 9 10:40:27 2021
    On 9/4/21 3:38 pm, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    Have you tried blacklisting Noveau and whitelisting nVidea?
    If you look on the web or forum you might get more intormation on
    what is involved  but I think I heard that displacing Noveau is
    a task.   I only had to due it once years ago on Mandriva.

        Good luck and take some time away from this specific problem.

        Bliss



    Worth a try Bobbie.
    Something for tomorrow

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 00:35:17 2021
    On 4/9/21 1:50 AM, faeychild wrote:
    On 9/4/21 2:55 pm, faeychild wrote:


    I may have a hardware problem
    I am reasonable convinced that I used the Nvidia 340 drivers and I found that they are now deprecated

    ********

    Unfortunately we are dropping the R340 "nvidia340" driver due to
    security issues in the NVIDIA binary blob. Several affected GPUs
    supported by the updated R390 driver will be switched over from R340.
    Where that does not happen, nouveau will be used. If you see problems
    try X11 vesa driver; try editing the first boot menu entry and change "xdriver=free" to "xdriver=vesa".

    *******


    My graphics card is identified as Geforce 635 or higher

    I may have to upgrade or stay with nouveau

    regards

    Yes, I dumped my nvidia 210 card a year ago, when I saw that nvidia was dropping support for the 340 driver. I switched to AMD, and I'll never
    go back. Time was when nvidia was best at supporting Linux, but no
    longer. AMD is MUCH better these days.

    I bought my cards used on eBay. Of course you have to watch what you are buying, but there are a lot of decent desktop components available
    there, rescued by recyclers, and sold at very reasonable prices.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 02:07:26 2021
    On 10/4/21 9:35 am, TJ wrote:


    Yes, I dumped my nvidia 210 card a year ago, when I saw that nvidia was dropping support for the 340 driver. I switched to AMD, and I'll never
    go back. Time was when nvidia was best at supporting Linux, but no
    longer. AMD is MUCH better these days.

    I bought my cards used on eBay. Of course you have to watch what you are buying, but there are a lot of decent desktop components available
    there, rescued by recyclers, and sold at very reasonable prices.


    Would you believe it TJ, I have been tossing up whether to get another
    Nvidia or go AMD.

    Does the installer deal with the AMD graphics driver during installation
    as with Nvidia.

    I still have memories from the old days of downloading the .run file
    from Nvidia. Switching to runlevel 3 to install only to find I had
    forgotten to install the kernel headers beforehand. And I did it more
    than once

    Ahhgg!!


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 02:27:23 2021
    On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 21:07:26 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does the installer deal with the AMD graphics driver during installation
    as with Nvidia.

    # lspcidrake -v|grep Card
    Card:ATI Radeon HD 5000 to HD 6300 (radeon/fglrx): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]|Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:1002 device:68f9 subv:1043 subd:03ca)

    Older ati cards like this used to use the fglrx kernel module which was in nonfree,
    but that is no longer used as the radeon module now works with it.

    The radeon kernel module is in the kernel (even kernel-linus), so it doesn't need to be built as an addon.

    On my laptop, the amdgpu kernel module is also in the kernel, but it has
    hybrid graphics with a nvidia gpu too, so I use mageia-prime with that one.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 06:02:55 2021
    On 10/4/21 11:27 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    # lspcidrake -v|grep Card

    The command has gone into the brain page


    ~]$ lspcidrake -v|grep Card
    Card:NVIDIA GeForce 635 series and later: NVIDIA Corporation|GP107
    [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:10de device:1c82 subv:1458 subd:3732) (rev: a1)



    I installed MGA8 in a spare partition to test my graphics problem.

    MGA8 installed successfully with the Nvidia driver (v 460.67)

    This would definitely indicate that the update of MGA7 with kernel and
    Nvidia driver is flawed


    regards

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 12:10:39 2021
    On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 11:07:26 +1000, faeychild wrote:


    Does the installer deal with the AMD graphics driver during installation
    as with Nvidia.

    Yes so far, lspcidrake -v|grep Card from my 3 nodes

    Card:ATI Radeon HD 6400 and later (radeon): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]

    Card:ATI Radeon HD 5000 to HD 6300 (radeon): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]

    Card:AMD Southern Islands and later (amdgpu): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240/340]

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 13:57:28 2021
    On 10/4/21 9:10 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 11:07:26 +1000, faeychild wrote:


    Does the installer deal with the AMD graphics driver during installation
    as with Nvidia.

    Yes so far, lspcidrake -v|grep Card from my 3 nodes

    Card:ATI Radeon HD 6400 and later (radeon): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]

    Card:ATI Radeon HD 5000 to HD 6300 (radeon): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]

    Card:AMD Southern Islands and later (amdgpu): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240/340]



    MGA8 has installed successfully with the Nvidia card. So if I stick with
    it and abandon MGA7, I may dodge a bullet.
    There will be a little bit of work to customise things and install the printer/scanner and I can use MGA7 as a template.

    Regards

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 16:03:21 2021
    On 4/10/21 8:57 AM, faeychild wrote:

    MGA8 has installed successfully with the Nvidia card. So if I stick with
    it and abandon MGA7, I may dodge a bullet.
    There will be a little bit of work to customise things and install the printer/scanner and I can use MGA7 as a template.

    Mageia 7 only has a few weeks left before it goes EOL, so you should be
    moving on to Mageia 8, anyway.

    As far as dodging Nvidia bullets, IMO it's only a matter of time before
    they fire off the next one. Good luck.

    TJ

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 16:23:10 2021
    On 09.04.2021 at 19:35, TJ scribbled:

    On 4/9/21 1:50 AM, faeychild wrote:

    My graphics card is identified as Geforce 635 or higher

    I may have to upgrade or stay with nouveau

    Yes, I dumped my nvidia 210 card a year ago, when I saw that nvidia
    was dropping support for the 340 driver. I switched to AMD, and I'll
    never go back. Time was when nvidia was best at supporting Linux, but
    no longer. AMD is MUCH better these days.

    I bought my cards used on eBay. Of course you have to watch what you
    are buying, but there are a lot of decent desktop components
    available there, rescued by recyclers, and sold at very reasonable
    prices.

    If you're not a gamer and/or someone who needs state-of-the-art
    graphics processing, then an onboard Intel GPU will do just fine. ;)

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    = Aragorn =


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 16:27:41 2021
    On 4/10/21 8:23 AM, Aragorn wrote:
    On 09.04.2021 at 19:35, TJ scribbled:

    On 4/9/21 1:50 AM, faeychild wrote:

    My graphics card is identified as Geforce 635 or higher

    I may have to upgrade or stay with nouveau

    Yes, I dumped my nvidia 210 card a year ago, when I saw that nvidia
    was dropping support for the 340 driver. I switched to AMD, and I'll
    never go back. Time was when nvidia was best at supporting Linux, but
    no longer. AMD is MUCH better these days.

    I bought my cards used on eBay. Of course you have to watch what you
    are buying, but there are a lot of decent desktop components
    available there, rescued by recyclers, and sold at very reasonable
    prices.

    If you're not a gamer and/or someone who needs state-of-the-art
    graphics processing, then an onboard Intel GPU will do just fine. ;)


    I agree. Few problems with drivers and no Nvidia fussiness.
    AMDGPU works fine too.

    bliss

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 21:55:14 2021
    On 4/10/21 11:23 AM, Aragorn wrote:

    If you're not a gamer and/or someone who needs state-of-the-art
    graphics processing, then an onboard Intel GPU will do just fine.;)

    Not always, because not all onboard gpus are Intel. Some are Nvidia, and
    some are AMD.

    I have one older motherboard, purchased a couple of major hardware
    upgrades ago, with AMD HD 3300 graphics. My plan was to use the onboard graphics rather than purchase a video card.

    It worked fine at first - until I tried to use Libreoffice. I suppose
    it's been fixed by now, but at the time Libreoffice was almost totally unusable with "older" AMD graphics. I needed to be able to use it, so I
    bought a video card, and because at the time I thought Nvidia was the
    best choice, I bought Nvidia. That was the card I wrote about replacing up-thread. I still use that computer, but now it's mostly for testing
    Mageia updates.

    The Nvidia card worked OK for years. But when I heard about Nvidia
    dropping support, I looked around for a replacement. I thought about
    using the onboard gpu, and it probably would work, but when I saw a much newer, more capable card on eBay for less than $15 US, I went with that.

    YMMV.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 23:15:02 2021
    On 11/4/21 1:23 am, Aragorn wrote:


    If you're not a gamer and/or someone who needs state-of-the-art
    graphics processing, then an onboard Intel GPU will do just fine. ;)


    On occasion it has! Which is a story no-one wants to hear :-)


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 23:24:52 2021
    On 11/4/21 6:55 am, TJ wrote:

    The Nvidia card worked OK for years. But when I heard about Nvidia
    dropping support, I looked around for a replacement. I thought about
    using the onboard gpu, and it probably would work, but when I saw a much newer, more capable card on eBay for less than $15 US, I went with that.


    One has to be able to recognize a more capable card also.
    I would require extensive re-education on card capabilities and
    functions, ie a new career path

    I will always wonder why an upgrade broke the nvidia connection

    But that is a sleeping dog now

    regards

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 23:29:58 2021
    On 10.04.2021 at 16:55, TJ scribbled:

    On 4/10/21 11:23 AM, Aragorn wrote:
    =20
    If you're not a gamer and/or someone who needs state-of-the-art
    graphics processing, then an onboard Intel GPU will do just fine.;)
    =20
    =20
    Not always, because not all onboard gpus are Intel. Some are Nvidia,
    and some are AMD.

    I didn't say that all onboard GPUs were Intel. I was specifically
    making a comment about Intel GPU performance and compatibility, and as
    it just so happens to be, Intel GPUs usually *are* of the onboard
    variety =E2=80=94 I've read that Intel would have plans toward discrete graphics adapters, but so far that doesn't appear to have materialized
    yet. ;)

    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 10 23:36:42 2021
    On 11.04.2021 at 08:24, faeychild scribbled:

    On 11/4/21 6:55 am, TJ wrote:

    The Nvidia card worked OK for years. But when I heard about Nvidia dropping support, I looked around for a replacement. I thought
    about using the onboard gpu, and it probably would work, but when I
    saw a much newer, more capable card on eBay for less than $15 US, I
    went with that.

    One has to be able to recognize a more capable card also.
    I would require extensive re-education on card capabilities and
    functions, ie a new career path

    I will always wonder why an upgrade broke the nvidia connection

    But that is a sleeping dog now

    Linus got tired of having to work around Nvidia's intransigence
    regarding the proprietary nature of their drivers, and so he changed the
    way the Nvidia driver must interface with the kernel. Nvidia in
    turn have chosen not to implement this change into their
    older-generation drivers.

    It was Nvidia's decision to break that compatibility instead of doing
    what AMD and Intel have been doing, which is to release their drivers
    under the GPL. The company's name is after all Nvidia.

    What's in a name, right? ;)

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sun Apr 11 00:34:53 2021
    On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 22:57:28 +1000, faeychild wrote:
    On 10/4/21 9:10 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 11:07:26 +1000, faeychild wrote:


    Does the installer deal with the AMD graphics driver during installation >>> as with Nvidia.

    Yes so far, lspcidrake -v|grep Card from my 3 nodes

    Card:ATI Radeon HD 6400 and later (radeon): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]

    Card:ATI Radeon HD 5000 to HD 6300 (radeon): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    [AMD/ATI]|Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]

    Card:AMD Southern Islands and later (amdgpu): Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. >> [AMD/ATI]|Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240/340]



    MGA8 has installed successfully with the Nvidia card. So if I stick with
    it and abandon MGA7, I may dodge a bullet.
    There will be a little bit of work to customise things and install the printer/scanner and I can use MGA7 as a template.


    Hehe, enter the commands used into a script, say, install_printer, next install may go a bit faster.



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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun Apr 11 17:18:27 2021
    On 4/10/21 6:36 PM, Aragorn wrote:
    On 11.04.2021 at 08:24, faeychild scribbled:

    On 11/4/21 6:55 am, TJ wrote:

    The Nvidia card worked OK for years. But when I heard about Nvidia
    dropping support, I looked around for a replacement. I thought
    about using the onboard gpu, and it probably would work, but when I
    saw a much newer, more capable card on eBay for less than $15 US, I
    went with that.

    One has to be able to recognize a more capable card also.
    I would require extensive re-education on card capabilities and
    functions, ie a new career path

    I will always wonder why an upgrade broke the nvidia connection

    But that is a sleeping dog now

    Linus got tired of having to work around Nvidia's intransigence
    regarding the proprietary nature of their drivers, and so he changed the
    way the Nvidia driver must interface with the kernel. Nvidia in
    turn have chosen not to implement this change into their
    older-generation drivers.

    It was Nvidia's decision to break that compatibility instead of doing
    what AMD and Intel have been doing, which is to release their drivers
    under the GPL. The company's name is after all Nvidia.

    What's in a name, right? ;)

    And of course, there's always the popular business model that can be summarized as "If we quit supporting our old stuff, users will buy more
    of our new stuff."

    TJ

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun Apr 11 17:43:45 2021
    On 4/10/21 6:24 PM, faeychild wrote:

    One has to be able to recognize a more capable card also.
    I would require extensive re-education on card capabilities and
    functions, ie  a new career path

    DuckDuckGo can be your friend.

    For AMD,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units is a
    good place to start.

    If you are considering an AMD card with Linux in mind, I would recommend
    the HD 8500 "Sea Islands" series and above, as in Mageia they use the open-source AMDGPU driver. These days that driver is receiving just
    about all of the development support from AMD.

    But the other ones do still work with Mageia. How well depends on their capabilities, rather than on the driver. Mentioned before elsewhere, I
    have an ancient Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop, from circa 2002. It came with
    a Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics card, which uses the RV200 gpu. Because
    the card is incapable of running OpenGL higher than 1.3, it won't work
    with Mageia 8 Plasma. But, it is perfectly happy running 32-bit Mageia Xfce.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun Apr 11 23:22:28 2021
    On 12/4/21 2:43 am, TJ wrote:


    For AMD,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units is a good place to start.


    Bookmarked. Thanks


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    Running plasmashell 5.15.4 on 5.10.27-desktop-1.mga7 kernel.
    Mageia release 7 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-7-x86_64-DVD.iso


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