I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it
is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming
that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
On 2/6/21 8:48 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it
is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming
that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or
loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
I put a four-port hub into the long-unused floppy bay of my desktop.
There are several around on Amazon and eBay, at varying configurations
and prices. I bought a cheap, no-name one, and have had no problems with it.
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:32:11 -0500, TJ wrote:
On 2/6/21 8:48 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it
is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming
that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or
loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
I put a four-port hub into the long-unused floppy bay of my desktop.
There are several around on Amazon and eBay, at varying configurations
and prices. I bought a cheap, no-name one, and have had no problems with it.
Look at his symptoms again. He leaves it plugged in. Offhand I am guessing
he does something that dismounts the drive. If so, power cycle or unjdack/jack
in usb cable will get it remounted. Other method is have the system rescan the usb ports.
On 2/6/21 10:49 AM, Bit Twister wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:32:11 -0500, TJ wrote:
On 2/6/21 8:48 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it >>>> is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming >>>> that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or
loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
I put a four-port hub into the long-unused floppy bay of my desktop.
There are several around on Amazon and eBay, at varying configurations
and prices. I bought a cheap, no-name one, and have had no problems with it.
Look at his symptoms again. He leaves it plugged in. Offhand I am guessing >> he does something that dismounts the drive. If so, power cycle or unjdack/jack
in usb cable will get it remounted. Other method is have the system rescan >> the usb ports.
I see this frequently and my routine it to shut the drive off and then
on again. It is a 3 Terabyte drive with its own power supply.
I use it for regular backups of the system and for recovery when I need
a space for /home files that are on machine that is not working.
Thursday and Friday this occupied my time to exhaustion.
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:32:11 -0500, TJ wrote:
On 2/6/21 8:48 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it
is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming
that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or
loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
I put a four-port hub into the long-unused floppy bay of my desktop.
There are several around on Amazon and eBay, at varying configurations
and prices. I bought a cheap, no-name one, and have had no problems with it.
Look at his symptoms again. He leaves it plugged in. Offhand I am guessing
he does something that dismounts the drive. If so, power cycle or unjdack/jack
in usb cable will get it remounted. Other method is have the system rescan the usb ports.
On 2/6/21 1:49 PM, Bit Twister wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:32:11 -0500, TJ wrote:And yet he also mentions "constant plugging and unplugging."
On 2/6/21 8:48 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it >>>> is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming >>>> that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or
loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
I put a four-port hub into the long-unused floppy bay of my desktop.
There are several around on Amazon and eBay, at varying configurations
and prices. I bought a cheap, no-name one, and have had no problems with it.
Look at his symptoms again. He leaves it plugged in. Offhand I am guessing >> he does something that dismounts the drive. If so, power cycle or unjdack/jack
in usb cable will get it remounted. Other method is have the system rescan >> the usb ports.
Contradictory, so one is forced to speculate on a reasonable explanation
for the contradiction.
Past use, perhaps, that has worn the socket to the point where even if
the device is always plugged in now, it's loose enough to make
connections tenuous enough to be made or broken by simple vibration.
I am still having problems with my external backup drive. Although it
is always plugged in, sometimes there is no connection. I am assuming
that with constant plugging and unplugging, the socket gets dirty, or
loose. That sounds like a routine maintenance job, like checking my
car's oil and water levels once a month.
What is the usual action to take in these circumstances?
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 17:33:59 -0500, TJ wrote:
Contradictory, so one is forced to speculate on a reasonable explanation
for the contradiction.
Past use, perhaps, that has worn the socket to the point where even if
the device is always plugged in now, it's loose enough to make
connections tenuous enough to be made or broken by simple vibration.
I can agree with your logic since I had the same kind of problem with
a nic card ethernet socket.
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder that
can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:53:40 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder that
can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
I'm guessing wrapping it in tin foil. :-)
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On 2/8/21 4:13 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:53:40 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:Good guess. Just the one blade, of course. The fuse can still do its job.
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder that >>> can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
I'm guessing wrapping it in tin foil. :-)
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:53:40 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder that
can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
I'm guessing wrapping it in tin foil. :-)
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 19:06:51 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
On 2/8/21 4:13 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:53:40 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:Good guess. Just the one blade, of course. The fuse can still do its job.
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder that >>>> can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
I'm guessing wrapping it in tin foil. :-)
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Been there, done that. It's really annoying how poorly the fuse holders are built.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On 2021-02-08, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:53:40 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder that >>> can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
I'm guessing wrapping it in tin foil. :-)
Probably not. The creases in the foil means that contact area is not
great, and for a high amperage the foil could melt. (Even Al wires to
copper tend to do that, and start house fires.)
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 19:20:21 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2021-02-08, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:53:40 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
But, we came up with a temporary way to make the fuse blade thicker,
thus allowing contact to be restored, and letting us clean out our
driveways. A better, more permanent solution, an inline fuse holder
that
can be installed to piggyback the original, is on the way and should
arrive any day now.
I'm guessing wrapping it in tin foil. :-)
Probably not. The creases in the foil means that contact area is not
great, and for a high amperage the foil could melt. (Even Al wires to
copper tend to do that, and start house fires.)
These are low amperage 12 volt systems in vehicles. Careful wrapping
ensures
no creases. While it does increase resistance/heat generation, it's not enough
to make the fuse even warm to the touch, on inspection immediately after using
for a while. I did check that as I didn't want my car catching fire, but wanted
the dashboard lights to work at night. Not knowing how fast you are
going is
generally not a good idea. :-)
The misbehaving fuse in the tractor is a 10-amp, this circuit for the interlock system, so probably just energizing some relays. Hard to be
sure, since much of the harness is hidden from view, but I know what
doesn't happen when the circuit is open. The more demanding circuits
have their own, heavier, fuses.
In my case, at over 71 the prospect of clearing 2 feet of snow from
roughly 150 yards-worth of two-lane driveway with a shovel didn't
exactly make my day.
On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 22:46:14 -0500, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
The misbehaving fuse in the tractor is a 10-amp, this circuit for the
interlock system, so probably just energizing some relays. Hard to be
sure, since much of the harness is hidden from view, but I know what
doesn't happen when the circuit is open. The more demanding circuits
have their own, heavier, fuses.
In my case, at over 71 the prospect of clearing 2 feet of snow from
roughly 150 yards-worth of two-lane driveway with a shovel didn't
exactly make my day.
That's a max of 120 watts. Do check it periodically to ensure it doesn't
get hot.
The blade fuses I did that with were 2 amp, iirc.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On 9/2/21 4:36 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
I _think_ that I have this problem solved.
My computer case has a row of USB sockets along the top, 2xUSB2 and 2xUSB3. Naturally, I plug and unplug devices in them all the time, so
they deteriorate, and become loose. I moved the external drive to a
socket on the back of the box, one that is never used otherwise. The
tight fit was very reassuring. To date, I have had no more problems. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
On 13/3/21 10:08 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
On 9/2/21 4:36 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
I _think_ that I have this problem solved.
My computer case has a row of USB sockets along the top, 2xUSB2 and
2xUSB3. Naturally, I plug and unplug devices in them all the time, so
they deteriorate, and become loose. I moved the external drive to a
socket on the back of the box, one that is never used otherwise. The
tight fit was very reassuring. To date, I have had no more problems.
I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I have an easily replaced extension cable permanently plugged into the
USB 3 socket for that very reason. I plug in USB sticks constantly and therefore run the extension up to the table. It also saves fumbling
under the desk every time to plug in a stick.
On 3/16/21 4:29 PM, faeychild wrote:
On 13/3/21 10:08 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:My motherboard has its two USB 3.0 ports on the back, with no internal
On 9/2/21 4:36 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
I _think_ that I have this problem solved.
My computer case has a row of USB sockets along the top, 2xUSB2 and
2xUSB3. Naturally, I plug and unplug devices in them all the time,
so they deteriorate, and become loose. I moved the external drive to
a socket on the back of the box, one that is never used otherwise.
The tight fit was very reassuring. To date, I have had no more
problems. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I have an easily replaced extension cable permanently plugged into the
USB 3 socket for that very reason. I plug in USB sticks constantly and
therefore run the extension up to the table. It also saves fumbling
under the desk every time to plug in a stick.
USB 3.0 headers. So, I bought a four-port USB 3.0 hub, with enough of a cable to reach to the back. It also has individual power switches for
each port, so I can leave my external drive plugged into one all the
time but it only connects when I work the switch. No idea how long it
will hold up, but for now it works well.
TJ
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