• sudo critical bug.

    From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 27 04:34:13 2021
    Anyone know when Mageia will be bringing out the critical fix for sudo (currently it allows anyone to craft a command to allow anyone to run
    sudo, whether allowed to or not. Ie, anyone can gain root.)
    Run
    sudoedit -s '\'
    If it comes back with
    useage: sudoedit .....
    you are OK. Otherwise you are not.

    sudo-1.9.5p2
    apparently fixes the bug.

    https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-research/2021/01/26/cve-2021-3156-heap-based-buffer-overflow-in-sudo-baron-samedit

    I downloaded the source code from www.sudo.ws
    wget http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/dist/sudo-1.9.5p2.tar.gz
    wget http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/dist/sudo-1.9.5p2.tar.gz.sig
    and put them into /usr/src/rpm/SOURCE
    I then downloaded the source rpm for 1.9.5p1 from the Mageia repository sudo-1.9.5p1-1.mga7.src.rpm
    and unpacked it
    rpm -Uhv sudo-1.9.5p1-1.mga7.src.rpm
    to put the packege into the rpm tree (/usr/src/rpm for me. It might be /root/rpmbuild for you)
    Edit sudo.spec in /usr/src/rpm/SPECS, and change the p1 to p2 on the
    second Versions: line, save and then run
    rpmbuild -ba sudo.spec
    If it asks for requirements, use uprmi to fulfill them
    (eg
    urpmi pkgconfig\(libcap\)
    )
    Then install the new sudo rpm from
    rpm -Uhv /usr/src/rpm/RPMS/x86-64/sudo-1.9.5p2*rpm





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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 27 05:16:43 2021
    On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:34:13 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    Anyone know when Mageia will be bringing out the critical fix for sudo (currently it allows anyone to craft a command to allow anyone to run
    sudo, whether allowed to or not. Ie, anyone can gain root.)

    https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28230#c3 https://advisories.mageia.org/MGASA-2021-0056.html
    Pushed from updates testing to updates for Mageia 7 roughly 6 hours ago as of now.
    It's also been updated in cauldron.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 27 20:47:40 2021
    On 27/1/21 3:34 pm, William Unruh wrote:
    Anyone know when Mageia will be bringing out the critical fix for sudo (currently it allows anyone to craft a command to allow anyone to run
    sudo, whether allowed to or not. Ie, anyone can gain root.)
    Run
    sudoedit -s '\'
    If it comes back with
    useage: sudoedit .....
    you are OK. Otherwise you are not.



    ~]$ sudoedit -s '\'
    malloc(): invalid size (unsorted)
    Aborted

    it appears that I am not...



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jan 27 20:52:19 2021
    On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:47:40 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    ~]$ sudoedit -s '\'
    malloc(): invalid size (unsorted)
    Aborted
    it appears that I am not...

    $ sudoedit -s '\'
    usage: sudoedit [-AknS] [-C num] [-D directory] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-R directory] [-T timeout] [-u user] file ...

    $ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: 2021-01-26T17:20:00 EST
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.src.rpm

    https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7.1/x86_64/media/core/updates/sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    What mirror are you using?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 01:58:25 2021
    On 2021-01-27, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 27/1/21 3:34 pm, William Unruh wrote:
    Anyone know when Mageia will be bringing out the critical fix for sudo
    (currently it allows anyone to craft a command to allow anyone to run
    sudo, whether allowed to or not. Ie, anyone can gain root.)
    Run
    sudoedit -s '\'
    If it comes back with
    useage: sudoedit .....
    you are OK. Otherwise you are not.



    ~]$ sudoedit -s '\'
    malloc(): invalid size (unsorted)
    Aborted

    it appears that I am not...

    Well you better install the fix. Apparently it is out in the base
    Mageia. Whether it got the mirrors you use is of course not clear.

    It is there in jameswhitby.net mirror.




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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 11:59:22 2021
    On 28/1/21 7:52 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:47:40 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    ~]$ sudoedit -s '\'
    malloc(): invalid size (unsorted)
    Aborted
    it appears that I am not...

    $ sudoedit -s '\'
    usage: sudoedit [-AknS] [-C num] [-D directory] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-R directory] [-T timeout] [-u user] file ...

    $ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: 2021-01-26T17:20:00 EST
    Source RPM  : sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.src.rpm

    https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7.1/x86_64/media/core/updates/sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm


    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 23 Jan 2021 14:13:11 AEDT
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5-1.mga7.src.rpm


    What mirror are you using?


    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 13:59:03 2021
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 06:59:22 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 23 Jan 2021 14:13:11 AEDT
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5-1.mga7.src.rpm
    What mirror are you using?
    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/

    It's there, or at least it is now. https://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates/sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    What does "urpmq --list-media active" show?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 17:39:37 2021
    On 2021-01-28, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 28/1/21 7:52 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:47:40 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    ~]$ sudoedit -s '\'
    malloc(): invalid size (unsorted)
    Aborted
    it appears that I am not...

    $ sudoedit -s '\'
    usage: sudoedit [-AknS] [-C num] [-D directory] [-g group] [-h host] [-p
    prompt] [-R directory] [-T timeout] [-u user] file ...

    $ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: 2021-01-26T17:20:00 EST
    Source RPM  : sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.src.rpm

    https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7.1/x86_64/media/core/updates/sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm


    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 23 Jan 2021 14:13:11 AEDT
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5-1.mga7.src.rpm

    Wrong on. You MUST have 1.9.5p2 not 1.9.5!



    What mirror are you using?


    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/

    That has p2 as the sudo update on it now.
    (17:30 UTC Jan 28) It says they put it up Jan26



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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 17:40:57 2021
    On 2021-01-28, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 06:59:22 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 23 Jan 2021 14:13:11 AEDT
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5-1.mga7.src.rpm
    What mirror are you using?
    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/

    It's there, or at least it is now. https://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates/sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    What does "urpmq --list-media active" show?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    Also run uprmi.update -a
    before you try updating your system.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 19:06:43 2021
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:40:57 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    Also run uprmi.update -a
    before you try updating your system.

    Which should be run "urpmi.update -a" as root.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 21:04:49 2021
    On 29/1/21 12:59 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 06:59:22 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 23 Jan 2021 14:13:11 AEDT
    Source RPM  : sudo-1.9.5-1.mga7.src.rpm
    What mirror are you using?
    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/

    It's there, or at least it is now. https://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates/sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm


    OK it will appear in the next update, maybe

    Question?
    Does the update application have a critical mass trigger or will it run
    for one new file only?


    What does "urpmq --list-media active" show?

    ~]$ urpmq --list-media active
    Core Release (distrib1)
    Core Updates (distrib3)
    Nonfree Release (distrib11)
    Nonfree Updates (distrib13)
    Tainted Release (distrib21)
    Tainted Updates (distrib23)
    Core 32bit Release (distrib31)
    Core 32bit Updates (distrib32)
    Nonfree 32bit Release (distrib36)
    Nonfree 32bit Updates (distrib37)
    Tainted 32bit Release (distrib41)
    Tainted 32bit Updates (distrib42)


    Regards

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 21:13:51 2021
    On 29/1/21 4:40 am, William Unruh wrote:


    Also run uprmi.update -a
    before you try updating your system.


    I usually leave it all to the tender mercies of the update applet and
    fail to immediately notice the new icon for some time


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 21:17:28 2021
    On 29/1/21 4:39 am, William Unruh wrote:

    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 23 Jan 2021 14:13:11 AEDT
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5-1.mga7.src.rpm

    Wrong on. You MUST have 1.9.5p2 not 1.9.5!



    What mirror are you using?


    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/

    That has p2 as the sudo update on it now.
    (17:30 UTC Jan 28) It says they put it up Jan26



    The auto update has yet to trigger

    update frequency is every three hours and the computer has been running
    for an hour.
    Maybe later today.


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 28 22:36:15 2021
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:04:49 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does the update application have a critical mass trigger or will it run
    for one new file only?

    One update will trigger it.

    What does "urpmq --list-media active" show?
    ~]$ urpmq --list-media active

    That looks fine. The update should have shown up for you by now.

    You can always (as root) run "urpmi --auto-update" instead of waiting for the applet.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 00:46:34 2021
    On 29/1/21 9:36 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:04:49 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does the update application have a critical mass trigger or will it run
    for one new file only?

    One update will trigger it.

    What does "urpmq --list-media active" show?
    ~]$ urpmq --list-media active

    That looks fine. The update should have shown up for you by now.

    You can always (as root) run "urpmi --auto-update" instead of waiting
    for the
    applet.


    Yes I could do that but now I have a growing curiosity about the
    applet's failure to pick it up.

    MCC > updates frequency is 3 hours

    ]$ uptime
    11:42:20 up 4:38, 3 users, load average: 14.44, 13.81, 13.83

    It should have triggered by now. Maybe there is a granularity to the update


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 01:08:58 2021
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:46:34 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    It should have triggered by now. Maybe there is a granularity to the update

    Check /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg and confirm that the stanza for Core\ Updates\ has the keyword "update" on the line after the one with the key-id.

    If that's there, check that mgaapplet is actually running with the
    command "ps -A|grep mgaapplet", which should show a line for it with a process id.

    Are you running plasma? If so, right click on a blank part of the system tray and
    select "Configure System Tray ...", then select the Entries tab and select the option to "Always show all entries", and see if it shows up.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 20:35:21 2021
    On 29/1/21 12:08 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:46:34 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    It should have triggered by now. Maybe there is a granularity to the
    update

    Check /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg and confirm that the stanza for Core\
    Updates\ has
    the keyword "update" on the line after the one with the key-id.

    OK "Update" on some, "Ignore" on others . Like on "Testing" for example



    If that's there, check that mgaapplet is actually running with the
    command "ps -A|grep mgaapplet", which should show a line for it with a process id.

    ~]$ ps -A|grep mgaapplet
    7932 ? 00:00:00 mgaapplet




    Are you running plasma? If so, right click on a blank part of the system tray and
    select "Configure System Tray ...", then select the Entries tab and
    select the
    option to "Always show all entries", and see if it shows up.

    Yes it does and the tooltip says :Your system is up to date"



    regards

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 22:27:57 2021
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:35:21 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Yes it does and the tooltip says :Your system is up to date"

    Does /etc/urpmi/skip.list contain any non-comment lines?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 23:14:49 2021
    On 2021-01-29, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 29/1/21 12:08 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:46:34 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    It should have triggered by now. Maybe there is a granularity to the
    update

    Check /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg and confirm that the stanza for Core\
    Updates\ has
    the keyword "update" on the line after the one with the key-id.

    OK "Update" on some, "Ignore" on others . Like on "Testing" for example

    It was Core Updates that you were to look at.




    If that's there, check that mgaapplet is actually running with the
    command "ps -A|grep mgaapplet", which should show a line for it with a
    process id.

    ~]$ ps -A|grep mgaapplet
    7932 ? 00:00:00 mgaapplet




    Are you running plasma? If so, right click on a blank part of the system
    tray and
    select "Configure System Tray ...", then select the Entries tab and
    select the
    option to "Always show all entries", and see if it shows up.

    Yes it does and the tooltip says :Your system is up to date"

    Open a terminal. Log into root.
    urpmi sudo
    It will either say 1.9.5p2 is installed, or it will install it.


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 23:22:50 2021
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:14:49 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    Open a terminal. Log into root.
    urpmi sudo
    It will either say 1.9.5p2 is installed, or it will install it.

    Not if sudo is listed in /etc/urpmi/skip.lst, as I'm now suspecting. That's the only thing I can think of to explain things so far.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 02:54:55 2021
    On 30/1/21 9:27 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:35:21 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Yes it does and the tooltip says :Your system is up to date"

    Does /etc/urpmi/skip.list contain any non-comment lines?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins



    ~]$ cat /etc/urpmi/skip.list
    # Here you can specify the packages that won't be upgraded automatically
    # for example, to exclude all apache packages :
    # /^apache/


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 03:08:06 2021
    On 30/1/21 10:14 am, William Unruh wrote:


    It was Core Updates that you were to look at.


    cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg | grep -i core
    Core\ Release\ (Installer) cdrom://x86_64/media/core {
    Core\ Release\ (distrib1) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/release { Core\ Release\ Debug\ (distrib2) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/debug/core/release
    {
    Core\ Updates\ (distrib3) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates { Core\ Updates\ Debug\ (distrib4) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/debug/core/updates
    {
    Core\ Updates\ Testing\ (distrib5) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates_testing
    {
    Core\ Updates\ Testing\ Debug\ (distrib6) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/debug/core/updates_testing
    {
    Core\ Backports\ (distrib7) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/backports
    {
    Core\ Backports\ Debug\ (distrib8) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/debug/core/backports
    {
    Core\ Backports\ Testing\ (distrib9) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/backports_testing
    {
    Core\ Backports\ Testing\ Debug\ (distrib10) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/debug/core/backports_testing
    {
    Core\ 32bit\ Release\ (distrib31) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/i586/media/core/release { Core\ 32bit\ Updates\ (distrib32) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/i586/media/core/updates { Core\ 32bit\ Updates\ Testing\ (distrib33) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/i586/media/core/updates_testing
    {
    Core\ 32bit\ Backports\ (distrib34) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/i586/media/core/backports { Core\ 32bit\ Backports\ Testing\ (distrib35) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mageia/distrib/7/i586/media/core/backports_testing
    {


    Obviously backports and testing could go, reducing the list a bit.



    Open a terminal. Log into root.
    urpmi sudo
    It will either say 1.9.5p2 is installed, or it will install it.


    Yes I certainly could do that. But I am now curious when the update
    applet will fire up. Last time was a week maybe two, ago which included
    a kernel upgrade.

    I don't think I'm in any immediate peril from the sudo bug, I'm the only
    one here.


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 03:11:36 2021
    On 30/1/21 10:22 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:14:49 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    Open a terminal. Log into root.
    urpmi sudo
    It will either say 1.9.5p2 is installed, or it will install it.

    Not if sudo is listed in /etc/urpmi/skip.lst, as I'm now suspecting.
    That's the
    only thing I can think of to explain things so far.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    I checked with MCC update
    only two are pending
    glibc and glibc-devel NO sudo
    neither of which has triggered the update applet

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 04:04:02 2021
    On 2021-01-30, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 30/1/21 10:14 am, William Unruh wrote:


    It was Core Updates that you were to look at.


    cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg | grep -i core

    Of course it was not just the lines containing core but the whole stanza
    For example in mine

    Core\ Updates http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates {
    key-ids: 80420f66
    update
    }

    Or for
    Core\ Updates\ Testing http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates_testing {
    ignore
    }

    is one to ignore, rather than to use for update.




    I don't think I'm in any immediate peril from the sudo bug, I'm the only
    one here.

    The sudo bug means that anyone who gets into your machine as any user at
    all can immediately become root. It is not who is in your house. It is
    anyone from anywhere in the world -- a few billion people.

    So either update, or remove sudo from your system
    urpme sudo






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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 04:06:11 2021
    On 2021-01-30, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 30/1/21 10:22 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:14:49 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote: >>> Open a terminal. Log into root.
    urpmi sudo
    It will either say 1.9.5p2 is installed, or it will install it.

    Not if sudo is listed in /etc/urpmi/skip.lst, as I'm now suspecting.
    That's the
    only thing I can think of to explain things so far.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    I checked with MCC update
    only two are pending
    glibc and glibc-devel NO sudo
    neither of which has triggered the update applet

    OK, but again, why not just do
    urpmi sudo
    as root from the command line.


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 04:15:40 2021
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:11:36 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    I checked with MCC update
    only two are pending
    glibc and glibc-devel NO sudo
    neither of which has triggered the update applet

    As they are priority updates, they must be installed before it will do other updates.

    As to why mgaapplet isn't showing the update, /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg should have a stanza such as
    Core\ Updates\ (distrib3) http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7/x86_64/media/core/updates {
    key-ids: 80420f66
    update
    }

    Different url, but the rest the same especially the update keyword on the line by itself after the key-ids line.

    Don't worry about the other stanzas for now. That's the one for the repo where mgaapplet should be finding it's updates.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 04:19:17 2021
    On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:04:02 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    The sudo bug means that anyone who gets into your machine as any user at
    all can immediately become root. It is not who is in your house. It is
    anyone from anywhere in the world -- a few billion people.

    Only if you've allowed a few billion people to already login to your computer.

    To exploit the bug, the person exploiting it must already be able to login
    as a regular user. It's critical for administrators of multi-user systems
    who have users they do not want to have admin access, but for everyone else it's really just a but that should be patched by the update as good housekeeping.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 09:04:04 2021
    On 28/1/21 7:47 am, faeychild wrote:



    It is now 19:50 hours here and I have noticed the mgaapplet in the task
    bar. finaly
    As David suggested the priority glib files loaded first and then some
    others including sudo

    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 30 Jan 2021 19:52:18 AEDT
    Source RPM : sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.src.rpm


    All OK


    Regards
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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 15:20:19 2021
    On 30/1/21 8:04 pm, faeychild wrote:
    On 28/1/21 7:47 am, faeychild wrote:



    It is now 19:50 hours here and I have noticed the mgaapplet in the task
    bar. finaly
    As David suggested the priority glib files loaded first and then some
    others including sudo

    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 30 Jan 2021 19:52:18 AEDT
    Source RPM  : sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.src.rpm


    All OK


    Regards
    Is this thread about the sudo critical bug, or about the mgaapplet?
    The mgaapplet has not been appearing in my Cauldron installation for a
    while.

    Re sudo: Surely sudo was simply doing what it was designed to do,
    namely, to allow users to have some root privileges? It was never
    intended to obsolete firewalls, etc.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 18:23:08 2021
    On 2021-01-30, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
    On 30/1/21 8:04 pm, faeychild wrote:
    On 28/1/21 7:47 am, faeychild wrote:



    It is now 19:50 hours here and I have noticed the mgaapplet in the task
    bar. finaly
    As David suggested the priority glib files loaded first and then some
    others including sudo

    ~]$ rpm -q -i sudo|grep -e ^In -e ^So
    Install Date: Sat 30 Jan 2021 19:52:18 AEDT
    Source RPM  : sudo-1.9.5p2-1.mga7.src.rpm


    All OK


    Regards
    Is this thread about the sudo critical bug, or about the mgaapplet?
    The mgaapplet has not been appearing in my Cauldron installation for a while.

    Cauldron is not a good test bed. Cauldron has no updates (core/updates
    is always empty).

    Re sudo: Surely sudo was simply doing what it was designed to do,
    namely, to allow users to have some root privileges? It was never
    intended to obsolete firewalls, etc.

    No, it was NOT doing what it was designed to do. By issuing a carefully
    crafted request, sudo would allow ANY user, no matter how that user was controlled by the /etc/sudoers files, to run ANY command as root. Ie, it
    gave all users on the machine, no matter who, the ability to be a
    completely unconstrained root. That was NOT what sudo was designed to
    do. It was supposed to be designed to allow some, carefully controlled,
    users the ability to run some, carefully limited, programs as root.
    Especially on large systems, with many users (think University servers),
    giving everyone, including temporary guests, the ability to be root is a disaster.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 30 23:30:02 2021
    On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:20:19 -0500, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    Is this thread about the sudo critical bug, or about the mgaapplet?

    It was about mgaapplet.

    The mgaapplet has not been appearing in my Cauldron installation for a while.

    Run "drakrpm-edit-media --expert" (as root), and set the updates flag for the release media. This is not done in stable releases due to the extra time it takes to look for updates in the release media. Don't forget to remove the updates tag from the release media after Mageia 8 has been released.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 31 09:26:14 2021
    On 31/1/21 10:30 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:20:19 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
    <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    Is this thread about the sudo critical bug, or about the mgaapplet?

    It was about mgaapplet.

    The mgaapplet has not been appearing in my  Cauldron installation for a
    while.

    Run "drakrpm-edit-media --expert" (as root), and set the updates flag
    for the
    release media. This is not done in stable releases due to the extra time it takes to look for updates in the release media. Don't forget to remove the updates tag from the release media after Mageia 8 has been released.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    And when will that be? Mga8 was supposed to be ready in "a few weeks,"
    and I thought that the absence of updates meant that the distro was
    frozen to create a DVD image, but I was wrong. Now it has more bugs
    than ever before. The history is sounding too like Mandriva.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 31 13:56:56 2021
    On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 20:26:14 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 31/1/21 10:30 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:

    Don't forget to remove the
    updates tag from the release media after Mageia 8 has been released.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    And when will that be?

    When QA and major contributors agree it is ready for Official Release.

    Mga8 was supposed to be ready in "a few weeks,"

    Just what is your hurry. You have pulled down the latest Mga8 iso
    and can decide if you want to use it as Production.

    and I thought that the absence of updates meant that the distro was
    frozen to create a DVD image, but I was wrong.

    It is in Release freeze and Packagers having more time to finish
    getting the latest versions in the iso.

    Now it has more bugs than ever before.

    I disagree. Watching bugzilla seems to indicate far more security updates
    than bugs.

    The history is sounding too like Mandriva.

    I really do not understand your ranting. If 8 were to be released
    today you would still get the same number of package updates that
    the current Release candidate gets.


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 31 15:29:05 2021
    On 1/31/21 8:56 AM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 20:26:14 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

    Now it has more bugs than ever before.

    I disagree. Watching bugzilla seems to indicate far more security updates than bugs.

    The history is sounding too like Mandriva.

    I really do not understand your ranting. If 8 were to be released
    today you would still get the same number of package updates that
    the current Release candidate gets.


    And if it had been released, and he had been affected by the one or two stubborn release blockers that have been addressed this week, he would
    have ranted even louder.

    There are some people who just like to complain.

    TJ

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 31 18:28:27 2021
    On 2021-01-31, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
    On 31/1/21 10:30 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:20:19 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
    <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    Is this thread about the sudo critical bug, or about the mgaapplet?

    It was about mgaapplet.

    The mgaapplet has not been appearing in my  Cauldron installation for a >>> while.

    Run "drakrpm-edit-media --expert" (as root), and set the updates flag
    for the
    release media. This is not done in stable releases due to the extra time it >> takes to look for updates in the release media. Don't forget to remove the >> updates tag from the release media after Mageia 8 has been released.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    And when will that be? Mga8 was supposed to be ready in "a few weeks,"
    and I thought that the absence of updates meant that the distro was
    frozen to create a DVD image, but I was wrong. Now it has more bugs
    than ever before. The history is sounding too like Mandriva.

    When it is ready! cauldron NEVER has updates as in core/updates. Any
    updates are placed into core/release and replace the old version. You
    really should have noticed that as you have been using Mageia for many
    years now. But since you have not, there it is. Cauldron never has
    anything in core/updates ( or any of the other updates directories).
    It is because of bugs that have been found and reported that Magageia 8
    is presumably delayed. If you have found bugs, I hope you have reported
    them on the Mageia bugs site, so they can be fixed.

    Mageia has told you ( and everyone) that cauldron is NOT for a
    production system. It is for finding bugs. Sometimes one is forced to
    use cauldron because, for example, new hardware my not be supported in
    the released version. If so, then you have to be careful, and keep
    up-to-date in the cauldron changes.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 31 21:39:44 2021
    On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 04:26:14 -0500, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    And when will that be? Mga8 was supposed to be ready in "a few weeks,"
    and I thought that the absence of updates meant that the distro was
    frozen to create a DVD image, but I was wrong. Now it has more bugs
    than ever before. The history is sounding too like Mandriva.

    My opinion only, others have different opinions ...

    When the qa team is satisfied, we will recommend to the council to go for release.
    Once that happens, the other teams indicate if they are ready or not. When all of
    the teams agree it's ready, then it is released.

    The qa team is currently testing the 5th build of the rc iso images. If the qa team
    and others didn't keep finding bugs, it would have been released by now. Since that
    is not the case, the release stays on hold until we are satisfied.

    Whether or not there is second RC created, or this will be the last RC release before
    final depends on the severity of bugs found after the rc iso images are released,
    and whether the bugs are on the ISO images, or can be fixed by updates after release.

    I do not care about arbitrary deadlines, imposed just for the sake of keeping some
    people happy. We aim for the target dates, but are not controlled by them.

    Mageia is made entirely by people volunteering their time and effort. My primary
    concern is that the people who contribute to making Mageia are happy with the result,
    for their own use, as well as their family and friends.

    Making it work well for others too is primarily to our benefit in that they will
    find bugs that the above group has not yet found, due to the limited variety of hardware, and different usage choices.

    There are people contributing to Mageia who care what the press, or other groups
    say about Mageia. I'm not one of them. That's why I joined the QA team and became
    it's leader, and did not volunteer for the Atelier team. I have zero interest in
    marketing.

    As above, this is only my personal opinion. Many, perhaps most of the other people
    contributing to Mageia would not agree with me.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Tue Feb 2 17:06:51 2021
    On 1/31/21 4:39 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 04:26:14 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
    <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    And when will that be?  Mga8 was supposed to be ready in "a few weeks,"
    and I thought that the absence of updates meant that the distro was
    frozen to create a DVD image, but I was wrong.  Now it has more bugs
    than ever before.  The history is sounding too like Mandriva.

    My opinion only, others have different opinions ...

    When the qa team is satisfied, we will recommend to the council to go
    for release.
    Once that happens, the other teams indicate if they are ready or not.
    When all of
    the teams agree it's ready, then it is released.

    The qa team is currently testing the 5th build of the rc iso images. If
    the qa team
    and others didn't keep finding bugs, it would have been released by now. Since that
    is not the case, the release stays on hold until we are satisfied.

    Whether or not there is second RC created, or this will be the last RC release before
    final depends on the severity of bugs found after the rc iso images are released,
    and whether the bugs are on the ISO images, or can be fixed by updates
    after release.

    I do not care about arbitrary deadlines, imposed just for the sake of keeping some
    people happy. We aim for the target dates, but are not controlled by them.

    Mageia is made entirely by people volunteering their time and effort. My primary
    concern is that the people who contribute to making Mageia are happy
    with the result,
    for their own use, as well as their family and friends.

    Making it work well for others too is primarily to our benefit in that
    they will
    find bugs that the above group has not yet found, due to the limited
    variety of
    hardware, and different usage choices.

    There are people contributing to Mageia who care what the press, or
    other groups
    say about Mageia. I'm not one of them. That's why I joined the QA team
    and became
    it's leader, and did not volunteer for the Atelier team. I have zero interest in
    marketing.

    As above, this is only my personal opinion. Many, perhaps most of the
    other people
    contributing to Mageia would not agree with me.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    At least one agrees with you, Dave - me.

    For me, looking for bugs in Cauldron, the isos, and updates to current releases before they are unleashed to an unwary public is the very
    reason why QA exists.

    As far as marketing goes, with nearly 60 years of experience in selling
    to the public, I can assure you that it's MUCH easier to market a
    quality product than one that was rushed out before it was ready.

    TJ

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