As I write, the Mageia Community link seems not to work. Maybe they are re-writing it for a big announcement?

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On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:36:38 -0500, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

As I write, the Mageia Community link seems not to work. Maybe they are re-writing it for a big announcement?

https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/community/ is working here.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:36:38 -0500, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

As I write, the Mageia Community link seems not to work. Maybe they are re-writing it for a big announcement?

Just adding a bit more info. I've seen no outages in the last couple of hours. The rc iso images are currently in qa testing, and will require as least one more rebuild to include fixes, before being considered for release to the general public. No big announcements in progress, that I'm aware of. :-)

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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David W. Hodgins wrote on 18/01/21 06:38:

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:36:38 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
<laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

As I write, the Mageia Community link seems not to work.  Maybe they are
re-writing it for a big announcement?

Just adding a bit more info. I've seen no outages in the last couple of hours.
The rc iso images are currently in qa testing, and will require as least
one
more rebuild to include fixes, before being considered for release to the general public. No big announcements in progress, that I'm aware of. :-)

Regards, Dave Hodgins

David, on the community page, https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/community/ ,
I see the 'MGA8 is on its way' (Nov 3, 2020) and '8 in beta2' (Dec 13 2020).

Any idea when MGA 8 (final) might be out?? (I figure my MGA 6 might be
just a bit 'old'!!)
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 03:20:08 -0500, Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Any idea when MGA 8 (final) might be out?? (I figure my MGA 6 might be
just a bit 'old'!!)

As always, the answer is "When it's ready!". :-) The main holding block for the
rc iso images right now is graphics not working on some very new hardware.

What happens after the rc iso images are released to the public depends entirely
on the results of the public testing. If deemed necessary, as second rc may be produced. If everything does go well, then a couple of weeks after the last rc is
released, Mageia 8 will be released.

While we do set target dates for ourselves, as per https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_8_Development
we do not hold to arbitrary deadlines. The quality is more important than working
to some fixed date to get something out.

The rc iso images are working well for most testers, but there are a few where the
installs are not working. Those issues are being investigated. How long they will
take to fix or workaround remains to be seen.

In addition to the rc iso testing of new installs, we are also conducting testing
of upgrading from Mageia 7 to 8, mostly using mgaapplet.

Upgrading from Mageia 6 directly to 8 is not supported, and extremely unlikely to
work. Best to do a new install, including a new /home, and then after booting into the new install, copy data as needed from the old install. It is not recommended to copy config files, as the formats of many of them have changed.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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On 2021-01-18, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 03:20:08 -0500, Daniel65

<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

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Upgrading from Mageia 6 directly to 8 is not supported, and extremely

unlikely to

work. Best to do a new install, including a new /home, and then after

booting

into the new install, copy data as needed from the old install. It is not recommended to copy config files, as the formats of many of them have

changed.

I assume that upgrading from 6 to 7, updating 7 and then going from 7 to
8 is supported. Note sure what happens to the config file during that
double transition. The problem with "copy data as needed" is that there
could well be data that one does not realise that there is a problem
with until a year after one did the transition. And saving a complete
install from 6 for a year is expensive.

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On 1/18/21 9:52 AM, William Unruh wrote:

On 2021-01-18, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 03:20:08 -0500, Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

....

Upgrading from Mageia 6 directly to 8 is not supported, and extremely unlikely to
work. Best to do a new install, including a new /home, and then after booting
into the new install, copy data as needed from the old install. It is not
recommended to copy config files, as the formats of many of them have changed.

I assume that upgrading from 6 to 7, updating 7 and then going from 7 to
8 is supported. Note sure what happens to the config file during that
double transition. The problem with "copy data as needed" is that there
could well be data that one does not realise that there is a problem
with until a year after one did the transition. And saving a complete
install from 6 for a year is expensive.

Well I have stuff here a lot older than a year from when I too
was using Mageia but you can escape by moving to a Rolling Release
such as PCLinuxOS 64. Even if something weird happens you can install
without creating a new home. But if you do regular backups then you
would already have the system as it was before the weird happened.
Oh but you would have to do without the Poettering masterwork ie systemd.

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 12:52:54 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

I assume that upgrading from 6 to 7, updating 7 and then going from 7 to
8 is supported. Note sure what happens to the config file during that
double transition. The problem with "copy data as needed" is that there
could well be data that one does not realise that there is a problem
with until a year after one did the transition. And saving a complete
install from 6 for a year is expensive.

Yes. My current primary install started as a Mageia 3 install, upgraded each release and currently running Mageia 7. I'll be upgrading it to Mageia 8 soon.

You can keep /home, but don't be surprised by how many applications do not handle
old config file formats well. It makes debugging problems much harder.

If you do keep /home, I recommend that after the upgrade create a new user, and
use that user to figure out which problems are due to a bug in the new software,
and which are due to settings in /home. Mageia updates do not touch files in /home.
Updates and upgrades requiring changes in /home are the user's responsibility.

When we know about needed changes, the updates include README.urpmi files that are displayed when the update is installed that explain changes or deletions the user should make.

It's much easier to use a new /home and copy data as needed from the old /home,
then to go through the upgrade log(s) to ensure all necessary changes have been
made, hence the recommendation not to reuse /home.

Also, it's recommended to uninstall any third party software, and reinstall it after the upgrade, so it doesn't stop an upgrade half way through.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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