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  • FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 1 15:05:21 2021
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 1 15:48:33 2021
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.

    I think that provided the library I mentioned earlier is the right one,
    even a tarball will compile. The library RPM has core libraries, and a selection of extra ones. That was the only thing blocking a tarball
    compile before. I suggested adding a supplementary RPM to Bruno, but he didn't think it was appropriate.

    During the COVID lockdown, my radio club used Zoom to keep in touch. I
    live in Victoria, outside the metropolitan lockdown region. Club
    meetings are now permitted, and Zoom is no longer needed there.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 1 16:42:05 2021
    On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 02:48:33 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.

    I think that provided the library I mentioned earlier is the right one,
    even a tarball will compile. The library RPM has core libraries, and a selection of extra ones. That was the only thing blocking a tarball
    compile before. I suggested adding a supplementary RPM to Bruno, but he didn't think it was appropriate.

    I use the command/application "script" to get output and a log when doing research. Doing that with the zoom rpm allowed me to get a list of the additional rpms required by zoom which are as follows:
    lib64xcb-xtest0
    gnu-free-fonts-common
    gnu-free-fonts-compat
    ibus-gtk
    ibus-gtk3
    ibus-m17n
    librsvg
    m17n-db
    m17n-lib

    Oh, yeah, I noticed public key has version and signature which are
    different on each release.


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 14 09:11:46 2021
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.

    I just tried to install Zoom. The dependencies looked promising, but
    what I got was the client for story-type games.It was Release zoom-1.1.5-10.mga7.

    Just be careful.

    Doug.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jan 14 14:25:05 2021
    On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 20:11:46 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.

    I just tried to install Zoom. The dependencies looked promising, but
    what I got was the client for story-type games.It was Release zoom-1.1.5-10.mga7.

    That is correct. That is because zoom is the name of a released game
    under Mageia.

    There is a new zoom meeting released

    1.8K Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.pubkey
    44M Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64.rpm

    zoom rpm needs to downloaded from
    https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Bit Twister on Fri Jan 15 17:55:48 2021
    Hello Bit!

    Thursday January 14 2021 14:25, Bit Twister wrote to All:

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 20:11:46 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm
    release with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt
    to move the job to weekly.

    I just tried to install Zoom. The dependencies looked promising,
    but what I got was the client for story-type games.It was Release
    zoom-1.1.5-10.mga7.

    That is correct. That is because zoom is the name of a released game
    under Mageia.

    There is a new zoom meeting released

    1.8K Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.pubkey
    44M Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64.rpm

    zoom rpm needs to downloaded from
    https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm


    Using mga 7.1 I get :

    sudo urpmi zoom_x86_64.rpm
    A requested package cannot be installed:
    zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.6])

    Is there a trick to this ?



    Vincent


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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 15 18:36:03 2021
    On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:55:48 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
    Hello Bit!

    Thursday January 14 2021 14:25, Bit Twister wrote to All:

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 20:11:46 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm
    release with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt
    to move the job to weekly.

    I just tried to install Zoom. The dependencies looked promising,
    but what I got was the client for story-type games.It was Release
    zoom-1.1.5-10.mga7.

    That is correct. That is because zoom is the name of a released game
    under Mageia.

    There is a new zoom meeting released

    1.8K Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.pubkey
    44M Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64.rpm

    zoom rpm needs to downloaded from
    https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm


    Using mga 7.1 I get :

    sudo urpmi zoom_x86_64.rpm
    A requested package cannot be installed:
    zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.6])

    Is there a trick to this ?

    I read somewhere you are supposed to use
    urpmi --allow-nodeps zoom_x86_64.rpm


    It is also suggested to download the pubkey
    https://zoom.us/linux/download/pubkey
    and import it
    rpm --import zoom.pubkey

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 15 20:00:58 2021
    On 2021-01-15, Vincent Coen <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:

    Using mga 7.1 I get :

    sudo urpmi zoom_x86_64.rpm
    A requested package cannot be installed:
    zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.6])

    Is there a trick to this ?

    Yes. Use the --nodeps to rpm.
    or
    --allow-nodeps for urpmi


    The freetype for Mageia has a slightly different name from that for
    Redhat.
    lib64freetype6-2.9.1-4.1.mga7.tainted instead of freetype.

    Warning-- using Zoom on Mageia can be messy.
    a) You must disallow the setting of
    QT_PLUGIN_PATH or unset it before running zoom

    Mageia unlike all other distros, sets this variable, and zoom crashes immediately if it is set.

    b) Under KDE Plasma, you are liable to not be able to share. It will
    look fine to you when you share your screen, but everyone else will see
    an unreadable flickering/flashing image. Running under XFCE works.
    There is some suggestion that one of the Desktop Effects under Plasma is
    what causes teh problem, or the compositor, and that atl-Shift-F12 will
    turn it off and allow Zoom to work properly. I have already water for
    more time than I have trying to track down the bug, and the zoom people
    seem to be uninterested in fixing the bug.


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 15 20:09:27 2021
    On 2021-01-15, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:55:48 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
    Hello Bit!

    Thursday January 14 2021 14:25, Bit Twister wrote to All:

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 20:11:46 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 2/1/21 2:05 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm
    release with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt
    to move the job to weekly.

    I just tried to install Zoom. The dependencies looked promising,
    but what I got was the client for story-type games.It was Release
    zoom-1.1.5-10.mga7.

    That is correct. That is because zoom is the name of a released game
    under Mageia.

    There is a new zoom meeting released

    1.8K Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.pubkey
    44M Jan 10 22:20 zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64.rpm

    zoom rpm needs to downloaded from
    https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm


    Using mga 7.1 I get :

    sudo urpmi zoom_x86_64.rpm
    A requested package cannot be installed:
    zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.6])

    Is there a trick to this ?

    I read somewhere you are supposed to use
    urpmi --allow-nodeps zoom_x86_64.rpm


    It is also suggested to download the pubkey
    https://zoom.us/linux/download/pubkey
    and import it
    rpm --import zoom.pubkey

    That of course will not solve the dependency problem.
    Or you can just tell urpmi/rpm to ignore the pubkey and
    to install anyway. (of course that could be dangerous as some hacker
    might have replaces the real code with code with a hack on some
    repository).


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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to William Unruh on Sat Jan 16 13:45:48 2021
    Hello William!

    Friday January 15 2021 20:00, William Unruh wrote to All:

    On 2021-01-15, Vincent Coen <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:

    Using mga 7.1 I get :

    sudo urpmi zoom_x86_64.rpm
    A requested package cannot be installed:
    zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.6])

    Is there a trick to this ?

    Yes. Use the --nodeps to rpm.
    or
    --allow-nodeps for urpmi


    The freetype for Mageia has a slightly different name from that for
    Redhat.
    lib64freetype6-2.9.1-4.1.mga7.tainted instead of freetype.

    Noted thanks I will install that any way.

    Warning-- using Zoom on Mageia can be messy.
    a) You must disallow the setting of
    QT_PLUGIN_PATH or unset it before running zoom

    Mageia unlike all other distros, sets this variable, and zoom crashes immediately if it is set.

    b) Under KDE Plasma, you are liable to not be able to share. It will
    look fine to you when you share your screen, but everyone else will
    see an unreadable flickering/flashing image. Running under XFCE works.
    There is some suggestion that one of the Desktop Effects under Plasma
    is what causes teh problem, or the compositor, and that atl-Shift-F12
    will turn it off and allow Zoom to work properly. I have already water
    for more time than I have trying to track down the bug, and the zoom
    people seem to be uninterested in fixing the bug.

    OK, there are enough issues for me to keep clear of it. I was slightly concerned when I could not see the sources for validation.

    Will stick to using it under Windoz on a laptop for family and council
    meetings etc.

    Vincent


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 16 16:55:31 2021
    On 2021-01-16, Vincent Coen <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hello William!

    Friday January 15 2021 20:00, William Unruh wrote to All:

    On 2021-01-15, Vincent Coen <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:

    Using mga 7.1 I get :

    sudo urpmi zoom_x86_64.rpm
    A requested package cannot be installed:
    zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.6])

    Is there a trick to this ?

    Yes. Use the --nodeps to rpm.
    or
    --allow-nodeps for urpmi


    The freetype for Mageia has a slightly different name from that for
    Redhat.
    lib64freetype6-2.9.1-4.1.mga7.tainted instead of freetype.

    Noted thanks I will install that any way.

    Warning-- using Zoom on Mageia can be messy.
    a) You must disallow the setting of
    QT_PLUGIN_PATH or unset it before running zoom

    Mageia unlike all other distros, sets this variable, and zoom crashes immediately if it is set.

    b) Under KDE Plasma, you are liable to not be able to share. It will
    look fine to you when you share your screen, but everyone else will
    see an unreadable flickering/flashing image. Running under XFCE works.
    There is some suggestion that one of the Desktop Effects under Plasma
    is what causes teh problem, or the compositor, and that atl-Shift-F12
    will turn it off and allow Zoom to work properly. I have already water
    for more time than I have trying to track down the bug, and the zoom
    people seem to be uninterested in fixing the bug.

    OK, there are enough issues for me to keep clear of it. I was slightly concerned when I could not see the sources for validation.

    Why would you stay clear of it?

    Will stick to using it under Windoz on a laptop for family and council meetings etc.

    Sorry, you would rather use it on a hack-magnet than do some things
    which are trivial if you know about them?

    You can get rid of the QT_PLUGIN_PATH by editing
    /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh and /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh
    and getting rid of the lines containing QT_PLUGIN_PATH
    Note that Mageia has gotten rid of this bug in Mageia 8/cauldron. I do
    not know if they are backporting it.

    To get rid of the sharescreen bug, just do alt-shift-F12 before running
    zoom I believe.

    But to each his own.



    Vincent



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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 16 17:28:50 2021
    On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 16:55:31 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

    You can get rid of the QT_PLUGIN_PATH by editing
    /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh and /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh
    and getting rid of the lines containing QT_PLUGIN_PATH

    I would suggest that is somewhat of a poor hack.
    You run the risk of the modified files being overwritten by an update
    having to do with those files.

    You can use a link or a file in /etc/profile.d/ to unset the desired
    variables. For example /etc/profile.d/zoon.sh/csh

    Another option is a wrapper script in /usr/bin that sets the desired environment then calls zoom executable.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 16 18:10:19 2021
    On 2021-01-16, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 16:55:31 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

    You can get rid of the QT_PLUGIN_PATH by editing
    /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh and /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh
    and getting rid of the lines containing QT_PLUGIN_PATH

    I would suggest that is somewhat of a poor hack.
    You run the risk of the modified files being overwritten by an update
    having to do with those files.

    Of course. Better would have been if Mageia had never done it in the
    first place, or that they issued a bug fix for 7.1. Two years ago, it
    was pointed out that Mageia had violated the direct advice of the QT5 developers. It took till this Dec for them to fix this in cauldron. I
    have not seen that they fixed it in Mga7, but they may have, in which
    case your worry is not relevant.

    You can use a link or a file in /etc/profile.d/ to unset the desired variables. For example /etc/profile.d/zoon.sh/csh
    Better give it a number higher than 60 or you are liable to have it
    unset before it is set and then set:-) (Or are unnumbered things always
    run after numbered things?). Another would be to write a
    script to unset it, and have cron run it every 5 min :-)
    (I presume you meant /etc/profile.d/zoom.{sh,csh} in bash-speak. As it
    is it looks like csh is a subdirectory of zoon.sh)



    Another option is a wrapper script in /usr/bin that sets the desired environment then calls zoom executable.

    Even better is to have Mageia fix the bug in 7. It would also be nice to
    know why that environment variable was set by the Mageia developer when
    qt5 came out, so that this change does not break something else.
    The problem is that Zoom has its own version of qt5, and it is
    incompatible with the Mageia qt5. Thus when it tries to load something
    from that Plugin_path from the Mageia qt5 it crashes the system.
    This is a problem it seems with all programs which are delivered as
    flatpack or snap or appimage and use qt5.
    (and although zoom does not say that is what it doing, it seems what
    they do is equivalent.)



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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sat Jan 16 20:32:57 2021
    On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 18:10:19 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    On 2021-01-16, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 16:55:31 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

    You can get rid of the QT_PLUGIN_PATH by editing
    /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh and /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh
    and getting rid of the lines containing QT_PLUGIN_PATH

    I would suggest that is somewhat of a poor hack.
    You run the risk of the modified files being overwritten by an update
    having to do with those files.

    Of course. Better would have been if Mageia had never done it in the
    first place, or that they issued a bug fix for 7.1. Two years ago, it
    was pointed out that Mageia had violated the direct advice of the QT5 developers. It took till this Dec for them to fix this in cauldron. I
    have not seen that they fixed it in Mga7, but they may have, in which
    case your worry is not relevant.

    You can use a link or a file in /etc/profile.d/ to unset the desired
    variables. For example /etc/profile.d/zoon.sh/csh
    Better give it a number higher than 60 or you are liable to have it
    unset before it is set and then set:-) (Or are unnumbered things always
    run after numbered things?).

    Scripts are usually executed in normal ASCII order. Take a look at
    ls -1 /etc/profile.d/

    Another would be to write a
    script to unset it, and have cron run it every 5 min :-)

    An absolute waste of time/resource. That would only unset it for that
    cron job.

    (I presume you meant /etc/profile.d/zoom.{sh,csh} in bash-speak. As it
    is it looks like csh is a subdirectory of zoon.sh)

    Sorry, you are correct.


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  • From Leo@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 17 02:47:11 2021
    On 17/1/21 6:32 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 18:10:19 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    On 2021-01-16, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 16:55:31 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

    You can get rid of the QT_PLUGIN_PATH by editing
    /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh and /etc/profile.d/60qt5.sh
    and getting rid of the lines containing QT_PLUGIN_PATH

    I would suggest that is somewhat of a poor hack.
    You run the risk of the modified files being overwritten by an update
    having to do with those files.

    Of course. Better would have been if Mageia had never done it in the
    first place, or that they issued a bug fix for 7.1. Two years ago, it
    was pointed out that Mageia had violated the direct advice of the QT5
    developers. It took till this Dec for them to fix this in cauldron. I
    have not seen that they fixed it in Mga7, but they may have, in which
    case your worry is not relevant.

    You can use a link or a file in /etc/profile.d/ to unset the desired
    variables. For example /etc/profile.d/zoon.sh/csh
    Better give it a number higher than 60 or you are liable to have it
    unset before it is set and then set:-) (Or are unnumbered things always
    run after numbered things?).

    Scripts are usually executed in normal ASCII order. Take a look at
    ls -1 /etc/profile.d/

    Another would be to write a
    script to unset it, and have cron run it every 5 min :-)

    An absolute waste of time/resource. That would only unset it for that
    cron job.

    (I presume you meant /etc/profile.d/zoom.{sh,csh} in bash-speak. As it
    is it looks like csh is a subdirectory of zoon.sh)

    Sorry, you are correct.

    There is an excellent web page on Mageia Wiki explaining how to install
    Zoom on Mageia using the Fedora rpm package.

    https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Using_Zoom_communication_application

    I was unable to install Zoom successfully until I followed the
    instructions on the above page. I can verify it works ok in Mageia 8
    Beta2. I have a weekly meeting with our Linux Computer Club and haven't
    had any problems.

    [/root ]# rpm -q zoom
    zoom-5.3.472687.1012-1 (version number)

    Leo Kavanagh


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 17 04:16:43 2021
    On 2021-01-17, Leo <kavanaghleo@gmail.com> wrote:

    There is an excellent web page on Mageia Wiki explaining how to install
    Zoom on Mageia using the Fedora rpm package.

    https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Using_Zoom_communication_application

    I was unable to install Zoom successfully until I followed the
    instructions on the above page. I can verify it works ok in Mageia 8
    Beta2. I have a weekly meeting with our Linux Computer Club and haven't
    had any problems.

    I believe that Mga8 beta2 already has the QT5_PLUGIN_PATH fix (check if /etc/profile.d/qt5.sh has anthing about QT5_PLUGIN_PATH in it).

    There is also the Share problem under Plasma which has not been fixed by
    zoom. Either make sure you run zoom under XFCE instead of Plasma, or
    try typing alt-shift-F12 before you run zoom.
    (the problem is that zoom Sharing sends out images which flash and
    flicker so as to make zoom sharing unreadable by people who look at your
    shared screen (see www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/zoom-flicker.mp4)
    It will look fine to you. It is everyone else who will see this horror.

    It might be enough to unset some of the SystemSettings->DesktopBehaviour->DesktopEffects ( I would unset all of
    the Appearance settings).


    [/root ]# rpm -q zoom
    zoom-5.3.472687.1012-1 (version number)

    The latest version is 5.4.57862.0110 I believe.




    Leo Kavanagh


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 17 04:31:51 2021
    On 2021-01-01, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.


    Actually where do you download those zoom rpms from? From zoom you just
    get a non-descript zoom_x86_64.rpm which gives no idea what the version
    is.

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  • From Leo@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 17 20:42:02 2021
    On 17/1/21 2:31 pm, William Unruh wrote:
    On 2021-01-01, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    FYI: New zoom rpm released.

    My monthly pull_zoom cron script warned me about a new zoom rpm release
    with a build date of Dec 20 22:59

    $ ls -l zoom*
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bittwister document
    44M Nov 16 00:19 zoom-5.4.54779.1115-1.x86_64.rpm
    44M Dec 7 21:08 zoom-5.4.56259.1207-1.x86_64.rpm
    1.8K Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.pubkey
    44M Dec 20 22:59 zoom-5.4.57450.1220-1.x86_64.rpm

    Looking at the above ls snippet dates, suggests it might not hurt to
    move the job to weekly.


    Actually where do you download those zoom rpms from? From zoom you just
    get a non-descript zoom_x86_64.rpm which gives no idea what the version
    is.

    This is the download page:

    https://zoom.us/download

    Click on "Linux type" and select Fedora, select 32 or 64 bit and click Download. zoom_x86_64.rpm size 43.2MB will download.I change the name
    to 'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion. The GPG key is also
    available on this page.

    Leo Kavanagh

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 17 22:28:23 2021
    On 2021-01-17, Leo <kavanaghleo@gmail.com> wrote:
    ....

    This is the download page:

    https://zoom.us/download

    Click on "Linux type" and select Fedora, select 32 or 64 bit and click Download. zoom_x86_64.rpm size 43.2MB will download.I change the name
    to 'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion. The GPG key is also
    available on this page.
    Yes, I know. But Bit is showing that he gets the full version of the
    zoom file named with the full release number, not the totally useless zoom_x86_64.rpm.
    To what site does he go to see the full rpm name and download the full
    file name?



    Leo Kavanagh

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 17 22:57:28 2021
    On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 17:28:23 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    On 2021-01-17, Leo <kavanaghleo@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...

    This is the download page:

    https://zoom.us/download

    Click on "Linux type" and select Fedora, select 32 or 64 bit and click
    Download. zoom_x86_64.rpm size 43.2MB will download.I change the name
    to 'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion. The GPG key is also
    available on this page.
    Yes, I know. But Bit is showing that he gets the full version of the
    zoom file named with the full release number, not the totally useless
    zoom_x86_64.rpm.
    To what site does he go to see the full rpm name and download the full
    file name?

    Easiest way is to download it first, then extact the info and rename the file. $ rpm -q -i ./zoom_x86_64.rpm |head -n 11
    Name : zoom
    Version : 5.4.57862.0110
    Release : 1
    Architecture: x86_64
    Install Date: (not installed)
    Group : default
    Size : 186610144
    License : see https://www.zoom.us/
    Signature : RSA/SHA1, 2021-01-10T23:23:54 EST, Key ID b903bf1861a7c71d
    Source RPM : zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.src.rpm
    Build Date : 2021-01-10T23:20:59 EST

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Leo@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jan 18 00:57:54 2021
    On 18/1/21 8:28 am, William Unruh wrote:
    On 2021-01-17, Leo <kavanaghleo@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...

    This is the download page:

    https://zoom.us/download

    Click on "Linux type" and select Fedora, select 32 or 64 bit and click
    Download. zoom_x86_64.rpm size 43.2MB will download.I change the name
    to 'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion. The GPG key is also
    available on this page.
    _____________________________________
    Yes, I know. But Bit is showing that he gets the full version of the
    zoom file named with the full release number, not the totally useless
    zoom_x86_64.rpm.
    To what site does he go to see the full rpm name and download the full
    file name?



    Leo Kavanagh

    Not sure what web site Bit uses, he may not yet have seen the last few postings on this N.G. asking for the URL.

    A Google search resulted in this below command which does download the
    latest Fedora rpm, once again it does not show Fedora or the version
    number.
    wget https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm

    The above command downloaded the latest version rpm (for Fedora 23+)
    Version 5.4.9 (57862.0110). I change the name to
    'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion.

    Hopefully Bit will read the last few posts and reply.

    Leo Kavanagh

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jan 18 02:05:32 2021
    On 2021-01-17, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 17:28:23 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    On 2021-01-17, Leo <kavanaghleo@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...

    This is the download page:

    https://zoom.us/download

    Click on "Linux type" and select Fedora, select 32 or 64 bit and click
    Download. zoom_x86_64.rpm size 43.2MB will download.I change the name
    to 'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion. The GPG key is also
    available on this page.
    Yes, I know. But Bit is showing that he gets the full version of the
    zoom file named with the full release number, not the totally useless zoom_x86_64.rpm.
    To what site does he go to see the full rpm name and download the full
    file name?

    Easiest way is to download it first, then extact the info and rename the
    file.
    $ rpm -q -i ./zoom_x86_64.rpm |head -n 11

    You probably mean rpm -qip ./zoom_x86_64.rpm

    Name : zoom
    Version : 5.4.57862.0110
    Release : 1
    Architecture: x86_64
    Install Date: (not installed)
    Group : default
    Size : 186610144
    License : see https://www.zoom.us/
    Signature : RSA/SHA1, 2021-01-10T23:23:54 EST, Key ID b903bf1861a7c71d Source RPM : zoom-5.4.57862.0110-1.src.rpm
    Build Date : 2021-01-10T23:20:59 EST

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jan 18 02:33:55 2021
    On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 21:05:32 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    On 2021-01-17, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 17:28:23 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote: >>
    On 2021-01-17, Leo <kavanaghleo@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...

    This is the download page:

    https://zoom.us/download

    Click on "Linux type" and select Fedora, select 32 or 64 bit and click >>>> Download. zoom_x86_64.rpm size 43.2MB will download.I change the name >>>> to 'zoomFedora-x86_64.rpm' to avoid confusion. The GPG key is also
    available on this page.
    Yes, I know. But Bit is showing that he gets the full version of the
    zoom file named with the full release number, not the totally useless zoom_x86_64.rpm.
    To what site does he go to see the full rpm name and download the full
    file name?

    Easiest way is to download it first, then extact the info and rename the file.
    $ rpm -q -i ./zoom_x86_64.rpm |head -n 11

    You probably mean rpm -qip ./zoom_x86_64.rpm

    The output of rpm -qi ./zoom_x86_64.rpm and rpm -qip ./zoom_x86_64.rpm are identical. The option p is only needed if a ftp or http style URL is used,
    not a local file that's already been downloaded.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jan 18 06:15:16 2021
    On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 10:57:54 +1000, Leo wrote:

    Not sure what web site Bit uses, he may not yet have seen the last few postings on this N.G. asking for the URL.


    Hopefully Bit will read the last few posts and reply.

    No idea why my reply failed to make it back to the group. Here it is again
    The following are snippets from my now weekly cron pull_zoom script.

    cd $_dl_dir

    #*************************************
    #* check for zoom_x86_64.rpm updates
    #*************************************

    progress "Checking $_binary"

    rm --force zoom_x86_64.rpm
    _url="https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm"
    wget $_wget_xargs -O - $_url > zoom_x86_64.rpm
    ck_wget_status $_url

    #******************************
    #* get rpm long name from rpm
    #* and generate full name
    #*****************************

    _rpm=$(rpm --query zoom_x86_64.rpm)
    _rpm_out_fn=${_rpm}.x86_64.rpm
    _rpm_date=$(rpm -qip zoom_x86_64.rpm | grep 'Build Date')
    set -- $_rpm_date
    shift 3
    _rpm_date="$@"

    #************************************************
    #* get pubkey and mv rpm/pubkey to full rpm name
    #************************************************

    mv zoom_x86_64.rpm $_rpm_out_fn
    rm --force zoom.pubkey
    _url="https://zoom.us/linux/download/pubkey"
    wget $_wget_xargs -O - $_url > zoom.pubkey
    ck_wget_status $_url
    mv zoom.pubkey ${_rpm}.pubkey

    #****************************************
    #* change today's disk date to build date
    #*****************************************

    while read -r _fn ; do
    touch --date="$_rpm_date" $_fn
    chown $_sys_owner:document $_fn
    done < <(ls -1 $_dl_dir/${_rpm}*)



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  • From Solbu@2:250/1 to All on Fri Jan 29 04:08:26 2021
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    David W. Hodgins wrote:

    The output of rpm -qi ./zoom_x86_64.rpm and rpm -qip ./zoom_x86_64.rpm are identical. The option p is only needed if a ftp or http style URL is used, not a local file that's already been downloaded.

    I almost lever use «./» when interacting with regular local files,
    unless it is a shellscript I intend to run.

    Besides adding the «-p» switch prevents rpm from even attempting to
    find the name in the installed rpm database.

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