I am suddenly having a problem with my X. I am on Mga 7 with Plasma
desktop. In the past couple of days my system has suddenly begun to misbehave.
On 16/09/2020 22:14, William Unruh wrote:
I am suddenly having a problem with my X. I am on Mga 7 with Plasma
desktop. In the past couple of days my system has suddenly begun to
misbehave.
Have you recently added a new widget?
Or you using one that fetches data externally?
If yes on one or more of those, I would start to remove the widgets and
see if you get the stability back.
I have no idea what could be doing this. Looking in journalctl, the only thing that might be suspicious is powerdevil. Here are the lines from
the output of journalctl from around the time when I came back and found
it frozen.
On 17/9/20 6:14 am, William Unruh wrote:
I have no idea what could be doing this. Looking in journalctl, the only
thing that might be suspicious is powerdevil. Here are the lines from
the output of journalctl from around the time when I came back and found
it frozen.
I encountered baffling erratic Plasma behavior after an update.
I found (stumbled upon) that my nvidia driver had been replaced with nouveau.
On 2020-09-16, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Gaussian Mixture Model
On 17/9/20 6:14 am, William Unruh wrote:
I have no idea what could be doing this. Looking in journalctl, the only >>> thing that might be suspicious is powerdevil. Here are the lines from
the output of journalctl from around the time when I came back and found >>> it frozen.
I encountered baffling erratic Plasma behavior after an update.
I found (stumbled upon) that my nvidia driver had been replaced with
nouveau.
Unfortunately/fortunately I have Intel video.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor
on a Canon Lake processor.
My suspicion is that some sort of screen saver is coming in-- not
actually doing anything to "screen save" but managing to switch off X
without actually replacing it. Unfortunately all of the attempts to find
what it is, and what program might be doing this have not succeeded yet.
On 2020-09-16, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Gaussian Mixture Model
On 17/9/20 6:14 am, William Unruh wrote:
I have no idea what could be doing this. Looking in journalctl, the only >>> thing that might be suspicious is powerdevil. Here are the lines from
the output of journalctl from around the time when I came back and found >>> it frozen.
I encountered baffling erratic Plasma behavior after an update.
I found (stumbled upon) that my nvidia driver had been replaced with
nouveau.
Unfortunately/fortunately I have Intel video.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor
on a Canon Lake processor.
My suspicion is that some sort of screen saver is coming in-- not
actually doing anything to "screen save" but managing to switch off X
without actually replacing it. Unfortunately all of the attempts to find
what it is, and what program might be doing this have not succeeded yet.
On 2020-09-16, J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
On 16/09/2020 22:14, William Unruh wrote:
I am suddenly having a problem with my X. I am on Mga 7 with Plasma
desktop. In the past couple of days my system has suddenly begun to
misbehave.
Have you recently added a new widget?
Or you using one that fetches data externally?
No I have not.
I am suddenly having a problem with my X. I am on Mga 7 with PlasmaI too have occasional problems with "desktop effects restarted"
desktop. In the past couple of days my system has suddenly begun to misbehave. If I leave it for say 1/2 and hour, when I come back the X
screen is frozen-- no updates, no dragging or typing or anything. If I
do alt-ctrl-F2 to go to a terminal, and immediately do alt-ctrl-F1 to go
back to X, everything works fine, and it is clear that the system heard
what I tried to do when the screen was frozen, and thought it had
changed things, because the screen now has the updates I thought I did. Things work fine, as log as I do not leave the machine alone and X
unused for some time.
<snip>
On 2020-09-17, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:KDE Plasma
On 2020-09-16, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/9/20 6:14 am, William Unruh wrote:
I have no idea what could be doing this. Looking in journalctl, the only >>>> thing that might be suspicious is powerdevil. Here are the lines from
the output of journalctl from around the time when I came back and found >>>> it frozen.
I encountered baffling erratic Plasma behavior after an update.
I found (stumbled upon) that my nvidia driver had been replaced with
nouveau.
Unfortunately/fortunately I have Intel video.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model
on a Canon Lake processor.
My suspicion is that some sort of screen saver is coming in-- not
actually doing anything to "screen save" but managing to switch off X
without actually replacing it. Unfortunately all of the attempts to find
what it is, and what program might be doing this have not succeeded yet.
What DE are you using?
icons on the bottom bar (I can never remember the name)
On 16/09/2020 21:14, William Unruh wrote:
I am suddenly having a problem with my X. I am on Mga 7 with PlasmaI too have occasional problems with "desktop effects restarted"
desktop. In the past couple of days my system has suddenly begun to
misbehave. If I leave it for say 1/2 and hour, when I come back the X
screen is frozen-- no updates, no dragging or typing or anything. If I
do alt-ctrl-F2 to go to a terminal, and immediately do alt-ctrl-F1 to go
back to X, everything works fine, and it is clear that the system heard
what I tried to do when the screen was frozen, and thought it had
changed things, because the screen now has the updates I thought I did.
Things work fine, as log as I do not leave the machine alone and X
unused for some time.
<snip>
messages, clock freezing and icons on the bottom bar (I can never
remember the name) going out of sync with the applications they represent . Environment Mageia 7/Plasma/nVidia/nVidia driver.
Created bug 411858, but from the comments I'm not confident anything
will be found
Grimble wrote:
On 16/09/2020 21:14, William Unruh wrote:
I am suddenly having a problem with my X. I am on Mga 7 with PlasmaI too have occasional problems with "desktop effects restarted"
desktop. In the past couple of days my system has suddenly begun to
misbehave. If I leave it for say 1/2 and hour, when I come back the X
screen is frozen-- no updates, no dragging or typing or anything. If I
do alt-ctrl-F2 to go to a terminal, and immediately do alt-ctrl-F1 to go >>> back to X, everything works fine, and it is clear that the system heard
what I tried to do when the screen was frozen, and thought it had
changed things, because the screen now has the updates I thought I did.
Things work fine, as log as I do not leave the machine alone and X
unused for some time.
<snip>
messages, clock freezing and icons on the bottom bar (I can never
remember the name) going out of sync with the applications they represent . >> Environment Mageia 7/Plasma/nVidia/nVidia driver.
Created bug 411858, but from the comments I'm not confident anything
will be found
Have you ever typed "dmesg" and had a look at the log ?
It's not the only log on the machine, but occasionally
you'll see some interesting stuff in there.
For example, I can see Nouveau "losing contact" with my GTX1080.
This is why my Test Machine has an RS232 serial port wired
to it, and the cable runs to this machine. When funny stuff
happens, I can use a console session running over RS232 to
keep an eye on things. Even if the X11 screen freezes, I can talk
to the machine. Now, there are other ways to do that, and that's
just an example. The Test Machine has a ttyS0 on the surface
of the motherboard, and to use it, I had to make up a custom
cable (2x5 header) and run the cable through an I/O slot.
You *can* do a ctrl-alt-F2, when it's working. But if that
key combo elicits no response at all, the RS232 serial port
is also an option. If Nouveau is on its lunch break, I don't
really expect miracles to happen.
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