Here is a heads up about a change that may impact your setup.

Subject: [dev] Changing /etc/login.defs (default homedir permission, default umask)
https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/dev/2020-07/msg00333.html

Easy check
$ ls -n /home

If the UID or GID columns have less than 1000. then I can recommend
installing VirtualBox, create a mga7 guest, modify it to look pretty
close to your install with just enough stuff to test.

Clone the guest to cauldron.

Now you can close mga guest, boot cauldron, configure it to upgrade
from cauldron and run the upgrade.

Now you can test to your heart's content.


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On 2020-07-29, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

Here is a heads up about a change that may impact your setup.

Subject: [dev] Changing /etc/login.defs (default homedir permission, default

umask)

https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/dev/2020-07/msg00333.html

Easy check
$ ls -n /home

If the UID or GID columns have less than 1000. then I can recommend installing VirtualBox, create a mga7 guest, modify it to look pretty
close to your install with just enough stuff to test.

I am not sure what this is about or why the change in defaults should
make a difference. If you are upgrading, Mageia should not be changing
the permissions or the uid/gid on existing home directories anyway. Are
you saying it is changing those?

Ie, what are the potential problems?

Clone the guest to cauldron.

Now you can close mga guest, boot cauldron, configure it to upgrade
from cauldron and run the upgrade.

Now you can test to your heart's content.

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On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 23:03:03 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

On 2020-07-29, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

Here is a heads up about a change that may impact your setup.

Subject: [dev] Changing /etc/login.defs (default homedir permission, default umask)
https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/dev/2020-07/msg00333.html

Easy check
$ ls -n /home

I am not sure what this is about or why the change in defaults should
make a difference. If you are upgrading, Mageia should not be changing
the permissions or the uid/gid on existing home directories anyway. Are
you saying it is changing those?

I am not saying nothing. This was just an fyi.

Ie, what are the potential problems?

Well, right off the bat, you might what to see what /etc/profile
does to $PATH. As I misunderstand it, login starts with

# grep /usr/lo /etc/login.defs
ENV_SUPATH PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin
ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin

then user login files take over

Personally I think /etc/profile this snippet is wrong.
if [ "$EUID" = "0" ]; then
pathmunge /usr/sbin
pathmunge /usr/local/sbin
else
pathmunge /usr/local/sbin after
pathmunge /usr/sbin after
fi

as for your other "potential problems?" I would guess you did not bother
to read the treads responses. I can also suggest a glance at the thread
every once in awhile, unless you are subscribed to the dev mail list.


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On 2020-07-30, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 23:03:03 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

On 2020-07-29, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

Here is a heads up about a change that may impact your setup.

Subject: [dev] Changing /etc/login.defs (default homedir permission, default umask)
https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/dev/2020-07/msg00333.html

Easy check
$ ls -n /home

I am not sure what this is about or why the change in defaults should
make a difference. If you are upgrading, Mageia should not be changing
the permissions or the uid/gid on existing home directories anyway. Are
you saying it is changing those?

I am not saying nothing. This was just an fyi.

It was/is not clear to me what the information was that was being
conveyed. If this is a statement as to what would be applied to a
default new user-account one could perhaps argue, on both sides, as to
what the best default was. If you are saying that these are imposed on
the system, no matter what the user chose or what the old system had
what was being upgraded, then that it definitely wrong. Leave the users/sysadmins to decide what they need/want, and don't go imposing
someone's idea of proper on everyone whether they think the same or not.
(Of course it has always been that ssh will stop working if you get the permissions wrong on your home directory.)

Ie, what are the potential problems?

Well, right off the bat, you might what to see what /etc/profile
does to $PATH. As I misunderstand it, login starts with

# grep /usr/lo /etc/login.defs
ENV_SUPATH PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin

That is identical to what is in /etc/login.defs in Mga7.1
I assume that the SUPATH is set only for UID=0.

Certainly I have no ENV_PATH in my environment.

And I set my path in .bashrc.

then user login files take over

Personally I think /etc/profile this snippet is wrong.
if [ "$EUID" = "0" ]; then
pathmunge /usr/sbin
pathmunge /usr/local/sbin
else
pathmunge /usr/local/sbin after
pathmunge /usr/sbin after
fi

I presume that pathmunge is one of your scripts.

as for your other "potential problems?" I would guess you did not bother
to read the treads responses. I can also suggest a glance at the thread
every once in awhile, unless you are subscribed to the dev mail list.

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