• which exfat

    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 23 14:07:10 2020


    I am attempting to install exfat file system
    to format and increase the file size capabilities of a flash drive

    MCC allows me to install

    exfat utils 1.3 2.mga7 x86_64

    fuse-exfat 1.3 1.mga7.tainted x86_64

    not sure which to run with

    regards

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 23 14:34:47 2020
    On Sat, 23 May 2020 09:07:10 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I am attempting to install exfat file system
    to format and increase the file size capabilities of a flash drive
    MCC allows me to install
    exfat utils 1.3 2.mga7 x86_64
    fuse-exfat 1.3 1.mga7.tainted x86_64
    not sure which to run with
    regards

    Support for exfat was recently added into the kernel itself. The only exfat package
    that should be installed now is ...
    # rpm -qa|grep exfat
    exfatprogs-1.0.3-1.mga7
    # rpm -q -l exfatprogs |grep bin/
    /usr/sbin/fsck.exfat
    /usr/sbin/mkfs.exfat
    /usr/sbin/tune.exfat

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 23 22:57:48 2020
    On 23/5/20 11:34 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    rpm -qa|grep exfat

    With me it would seem not, David

    ~]$ rpm -qa|grep exfat
    exfat-utils-1.3.0-2.mga7

    The exfat-utils came as a result of me dinking around with MCC last night.

    The exfat option is still greyed out in Gparted format list

    Nothing is ever straightforward

    regards

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 23 23:20:25 2020
    On Sun, 24 May 2020 07:57:48 +1000, faeychild wrote:
    On 23/5/20 11:34 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    rpm -qa|grep exfat

    With me it would seem not, David

    ~]$ rpm -qa|grep exfat
    exfat-utils-1.3.0-2.mga7

    Me thinks your rpm command only works on installed rpms.
    When hunting a package try

    urpmq --fuzzy -r exfat

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 24 00:25:59 2020
    On 24/5/20 8:20 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    urpmq --fuzzy -r exfat


    urpmq --fuzzy -r exfat
    exfat-utils-1.3.0-2.mga7
    exfatprogs-1.0.2-1.mga7
    fuse-exfat-1.3.0-1.mga7.tainted
    lib64exfat-devel-1.0.2-1.mga7
    lib64exfat0-1.0.2-1.mga7
    libexfat-devel-1.0.2-1.mga7
    libexfat0-1.0.2-1.mga7




    The exfat option is still greyed out in gparted.

    Isn't it odd that these apparently simple activities
    eg: I think I'll format a memory stick with exfat
    blow out in to an unexpected drama.

    Still -- a learning experience. And I may even get the stick formatted

    I could try the command line option too.

    regards
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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 24 01:56:34 2020
    On Sat, 23 May 2020 17:57:48 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 23/5/20 11:34 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    rpm -qa|grep exfat

    With me it would seem not, David
    ~]$ rpm -qa|grep exfat
    exfat-utils-1.3.0-2.mga7
    The exfat-utils came as a result of me dinking around with MCC last night. The exfat option is still greyed out in Gparted format list
    Nothing is ever straightforward
    regards

    Uninstall exfat-utils and install exfatprogs. That's assuming all updates
    have been installed, especially the kernel update from April 5th. https://advisories.mageia.org/MGASA-2020-0162.html

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 24 04:47:21 2020
    On 24/5/20 10:56 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    Uninstall exfat-utils and install exfatprogs. That's assuming all updates have been installed, especially the kernel update from April 5th. https://advisories.mageia.org/MGASA-2020-0162.html


    An update came through this morning for exfat. would you believe.

    MCC now shows exfat-utils is gone and exfatprogs is still in.

    the exfat option is still greyed out in gparted but the command line
    work fine

    regards



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 24 05:56:40 2020
    On Sat, 23 May 2020 23:47:21 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 24/5/20 10:56 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    Uninstall exfat-utils and install exfatprogs. That's assuming all updates
    have been installed, especially the kernel update from April 5th.
    https://advisories.mageia.org/MGASA-2020-0162.html

    An update came through this morning for exfat. would you believe.
    MCC now shows exfat-utils is gone and exfatprogs is still in.
    the exfat option is still greyed out in gparted but the command line
    work fine

    A search on "gparted exfat support" shows gparted does not yet support exfat, except as whole partition move/copy. That's also confirmed by selecting View/File System Support in gparted.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 24 22:54:27 2020
    On 24/5/20 2:56 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    A search on "gparted exfat support" shows gparted does not yet support exfat,
    except as whole partition move/copy. That's also confirmed by selecting View/File System Support in gparted.


    Ahh! It's not to worry, David

    I was saved by mkfs.exfat. Long live the command line.

    regards
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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 25 13:50:10 2020
    On 5/24/20 5:54 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 24/5/20 2:56 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    A search on "gparted exfat support" shows gparted does not yet support
    exfat,
    except as whole partition move/copy. That's also confirmed by selecting
    View/File System Support in gparted.


    Ahh!  It's not to worry, David

    I was saved by mkfs.exfat.  Long live the command line.

    regards

    I haven't tried it yet because I haven't had the need, but Mageia's
    IsoDumper shows an option to format a usb stick in exfat. You don't see
    the option until you click on the "format the device" button, but it is
    there.

    IsoDumper was written primarily for just what the name implies - dumping
    isos to usb flash drives. But, that isn't ALL it can do.

    TJ

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 25 16:51:00 2020
    On 2020-05-25, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 5/24/20 5:54 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 24/5/20 2:56 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    A search on "gparted exfat support" shows gparted does not yet support
    exfat,
    except as whole partition move/copy. That's also confirmed by selecting
    View/File System Support in gparted.


    Ahh!  It's not to worry, David

    I was saved by mkfs.exfat.  Long live the command line.

    regards

    I haven't tried it yet because I haven't had the need, but Mageia's IsoDumper shows an option to format a usb stick in exfat. You don't see
    the option until you click on the "format the device" button, but it is there.

    IsoDumper was written primarily for just what the name implies - dumping isos to usb flash drives. But, that isn't ALL it can do.

    The command name is isodumper and the package is
    isodumper-1.16-1.mga7.rpm
    The package description at present just says
    "format the device in one partition of ext4, NTFS or FAT32 type"
    and should have exfat added to that.
    The --help option for the command line is particularly useless-- a huge
    dump of I think error messages
    example of one of the 40 lines
    <_M_> [ui] YUI.cc:78 YUI(): Creating UI without threads

    (The command line seems to switch on a debugger of qt, producing an
    unreadable amount of output by default. )

    Also, isodumper now also allows formatting of exfat, but the rpm
    information and the gui screen only mention ext4, ntfs and fat32
    these should be expanded to include exfat if it really does not also
    support exfat.


    TJ

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 25 18:02:55 2020
    On 5/25/20 11:51 AM, William Unruh wrote:
    On 2020-05-25, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 5/24/20 5:54 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 24/5/20 2:56 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    A search on "gparted exfat support" shows gparted does not yet support >>>> exfat,
    except as whole partition move/copy. That's also confirmed by selecting >>>> View/File System Support in gparted.


    Ahh!  It's not to worry, David

    I was saved by mkfs.exfat.  Long live the command line.

    regards

    I haven't tried it yet because I haven't had the need, but Mageia's
    IsoDumper shows an option to format a usb stick in exfat. You don't see
    the option until you click on the "format the device" button, but it is
    there.

    IsoDumper was written primarily for just what the name implies - dumping
    isos to usb flash drives. But, that isn't ALL it can do.

    The command name is isodumper and the package is
    isodumper-1.16-1.mga7.rpm
    The package description at present just says
    "format the device in one partition of ext4, NTFS or FAT32 type"
    and should have exfat added to that.
    The --help option for the command line is particularly useless-- a huge
    dump of I think error messages
    example of one of the 40 lines
    <_M_> [ui] YUI.cc:78 YUI(): Creating UI without threads

    (The command line seems to switch on a debugger of qt, producing an unreadable amount of output by default. )

    Also, isodumper now also allows formatting of exfat, but the rpm
    information and the gui screen only mention ext4, ntfs and fat32
    these should be expanded to include exfat if it really does not also
    support exfat.

    According to the changelog, exfat support was added in the last update.
    It's there, but at the moment you don't see it until, as I wrote, you
    click on the "format the device" button. I'm assuming the developer
    simply neglected to update the gui and description when he added the
    function. I will file a bug letting him know.

    I don't run it from the command line, so I hadn't seen all of the stuff
    it produces before. I usually use the Plasma launcher, although now that
    it's one of the MCC tools (find it in "System") I may launch it that
    way, too. I have no idea why it's there. As far as getting help is
    concerned, there is a "Help" button in the gui, and it produces a small
    window with instructions for using the program. However, those
    instructions also need to be updated to add exfat support.

    TJ


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 25 19:14:43 2020
    I have filed a bug report. 26681 (I notice you have also filed 26682)
    On 2020-05-25, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 5/25/20 11:51 AM, William Unruh wrote:
    On 2020-05-25, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 5/24/20 5:54 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 24/5/20 2:56 pm, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    A search on "gparted exfat support" shows gparted does not yet support >>>>> exfat,
    except as whole partition move/copy. That's also confirmed by selecting >>>>> View/File System Support in gparted.


    Ahh!  It's not to worry, David

    I was saved by mkfs.exfat.  Long live the command line.

    regards

    I haven't tried it yet because I haven't had the need, but Mageia's
    IsoDumper shows an option to format a usb stick in exfat. You don't see
    the option until you click on the "format the device" button, but it is
    there.

    IsoDumper was written primarily for just what the name implies - dumping >>> isos to usb flash drives. But, that isn't ALL it can do.

    The command name is isodumper and the package is
    isodumper-1.16-1.mga7.rpm
    The package description at present just says
    "format the device in one partition of ext4, NTFS or FAT32 type"
    and should have exfat added to that.
    The --help option for the command line is particularly useless-- a huge
    dump of I think error messages
    example of one of the 40 lines
    <_M_> [ui] YUI.cc:78 YUI(): Creating UI without threads

    (The command line seems to switch on a debugger of qt, producing an
    unreadable amount of output by default. )

    Also, isodumper now also allows formatting of exfat, but the rpm
    information and the gui screen only mention ext4, ntfs and fat32
    these should be expanded to include exfat if it really does not also
    support exfat.

    According to the changelog, exfat support was added in the last update.
    It's there, but at the moment you don't see it until, as I wrote, you
    click on the "format the device" button. I'm assuming the developer
    simply neglected to update the gui and description when he added the function. I will file a bug letting him know.

    I don't run it from the command line, so I hadn't seen all of the stuff
    it produces before. I usually use the Plasma launcher, although now that it's one of the MCC tools (find it in "System") I may launch it that
    way, too. I have no idea why it's there. As far as getting help is concerned, there is a "Help" button in the gui, and it produces a small window with instructions for using the program. However, those
    instructions also need to be updated to add exfat support.

    TJ


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  • From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Thu May 28 12:31:28 2020
    On 23/05/2020 14:07, faeychild wrote:


     I am attempting to install exfat file system
     to format and increase the file size capabilities of a flash drive

    MCC allows me to install

    exfat utils  1.3   2.mga7  x86_64

    fuse-exfat    1.3   1.mga7.tainted   x86_64

    not sure which to run with

    regards

    It's FOSS has come up with a guide:
    https://itsfoss.com/format-exfat-linux/

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu May 28 15:37:35 2020
    On Thu, 28 May 2020 07:31:28 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 23/05/2020 14:07, faeychild wrote:
    I am attempting to install exfat file system
    to format and increase the file size capabilities of a flash drive
    MCC allows me to install
    exfat utils 1.3 2.mga7 x86_64
    fuse-exfat 1.3 1.mga7.tainted x86_64
    not sure which to run with
    regards

    It's FOSS has come up with a guide:
    https://itsfoss.com/format-exfat-linux/

    The confusion about what to install is due to it changing recently. It used
    to be that fuse-exfat was required to be able to read/write exfat file systems.
    As of kernel-5.4, exfat is supported directly by the kernel, so fuse-exfat
    must be removed, if already installed.

    Some of the gui tools will have to be updated to support making exfat filesystems
    without having fuse-exfat installed. Until they are, it's best to use the command
    line. See man mkfs.exfat for options.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu May 28 19:18:37 2020
    I have exfatprogs which contains mkfs.exfat but there is no man page for mkfs.exfat. There is a man page for mkfs.exfat in exfat-utils, but that
    seems to be for fuse-exfat


    On Thu, 28 May 2020 07:31:28 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
    wrote:

    On 23/05/2020 14:07, faeychild wrote:
    I am attempting to install exfat file system
    to format and increase the file size capabilities of a flash drive
    MCC allows me to install
    exfat utils 1.3 2.mga7 x86_64
    fuse-exfat 1.3 1.mga7.tainted x86_64
    not sure which to run with
    regards

    It's FOSS has come up with a guide:
    https://itsfoss.com/format-exfat-linux/

    The confusion about what to install is due to it changing recently. It used to be that fuse-exfat was required to be able to read/write exfat file
    systems.
    As of kernel-5.4, exfat is supported directly by the kernel, so fuse-exfat must be removed, if already installed.

    Some of the gui tools will have to be updated to support making exfat
    filesystems
    without having fuse-exfat installed. Until they are, it's best to use the
    command
    line. See man mkfs.exfat for options.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu May 28 19:37:05 2020
    On Thu, 28 May 2020 14:18:37 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    I have exfatprogs which contains mkfs.exfat but there is no man page for mkfs.exfat. There is a man page for mkfs.exfat in exfat-utils, but that
    seems to be for fuse-exfat

    $ rpm -q -l exfatprogs|grep -v /usr/lib/.build-id
    /usr/sbin/fsck.exfat
    /usr/sbin/mkfs.exfat
    /usr/sbin/tune.exfat
    /usr/share/man/man8/fsck.exfat.8.xz
    /usr/share/man/man8/mkfs.exfat.8.xz
    /usr/share/man/man8/tune.exfat.8.xz
    $ rpm -qa|grep exfatprogs
    exfatprogs-1.0.3-1.mga7

    While the kernel module /usr/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/fs/exfat/exfat.ko.xz
    replaces the kernel module that was produced by fuse-exfat, the actual mkfs.exfat
    program is in the exfatprogs package, as well as its man page.

    Double checking to make sure I don't have a testing version of exfatprogs installed,
    the above package is on the mirrors in the updates repo ... https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7.1/x86_64/media/core/upda tes/exfatprogs-1.0.3-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    If your's doesn't have the man page, updates have not been installed, or the mirror
    doesn't have the update from May 15th, or there was a problem during installation
    of the update. Is the / file system full?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri May 29 04:13:36 2020
    I apparently had 1.0.2 on my system
    tunnel:0[unruh]>rpm -qil exfatprogs
    Name : exfatprogs
    Epoch : 1
    Version : 1.0.2
    Release : 1.mga7
    Architecture: x86_64
    Install Date: Fri 08 May 2020 08:33:44 AM PDT
    Group : File tools
    Size : 80544
    License : GPLv2
    Signature : RSA/SHA256, Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:47:30 PM PDT, Key ID b742fa8b80420f66
    Source RPM : exfatprogs-1.0.2-1.mga7.src.rpm
    Build Date : Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:46:27 PM PDT
    Build Host : localhost
    Relocations : (not relocatable)
    Packager : tmb <tmb>
    Vendor : Mageia.Org
    URL : https://github.com/exfatprogs/exfatprogs
    Summary : Utilities for exFAT file system
    Description :
    A set of utilities for creating, checking and labeling exFAT file system. /usr/lib/.build-id
    /usr/lib/.build-id/81 /usr/lib/.build-id/81/4811c00257c84699ee9540c605edf74196715a /usr/lib/.build-id/9a /usr/lib/.build-id/9a/342307abb58d25b003dda8f4521245f80f43e7 /usr/lib/.build-id/ae /usr/lib/.build-id/ae/4b9c7be5bdeb2ab91fb91c021af934ce76df22 /usr/sbin/fsck.exfat
    /usr/sbin/label.exfat
    /usr/sbin/mkfs.exfat
    -----------------------------------


    Note no man pages. Note also the build date of Apr 22 2020.

    I now updated it

    ------------------------------------------------

    rpm -qil exfatprogs
    Name : exfatprogs
    Epoch : 1
    Version : 1.0.3
    Release : 1.mga7
    Architecture: x86_64
    Install Date: Thu 28 May 2020 08:08:39 PM PDT
    Group : File tools
    Size : 90652
    License : GPLv2
    Signature : RSA/SHA256, Fri 15 May 2020 05:53:27 PM PDT, Key ID b742fa8b80420f66
    Source RPM : exfatprogs-1.0.3-1.mga7.src.rpm
    Build Date : Fri 15 May 2020 05:39:53 PM PDT
    Build Host : localhost
    Relocations : (not relocatable)
    Packager : tmb <tmb>
    Vendor : Mageia.Org
    URL : https://github.com/exfatprogs/exfatprogs
    Summary : Utilities for exFAT file system
    Description :
    A set of utilities for creating, checking and labeling exFAT file system. /usr/lib/.build-id
    /usr/lib/.build-id/54 /usr/lib/.build-id/54/655a05eaa3147fa90052d4fa72b3229b2c5be5 /usr/lib/.build-id/5e /usr/lib/.build-id/5e/7cca98c57dbf593ea413a2b99643324df61731 /usr/lib/.build-id/ac /usr/lib/.build-id/ac/507bf1c71f60b994e6b8a0b6813e8a9fa3cd8b /usr/sbin/fsck.exfat
    /usr/sbin/mkfs.exfat
    /usr/sbin/tune.exfat
    /usr/share/man/man8/fsck.exfat.8.xz
    /usr/share/man/man8/mkfs.exfat.8.xz
    /usr/share/man/man8/tune.exfat.8.xz

    -----------------------
    The man pages have shown up.


    On 2020-05-28, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 May 2020 14:18:37 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    I have exfatprogs which contains mkfs.exfat but there is no man page for
    mkfs.exfat. There is a man page for mkfs.exfat in exfat-utils, but that
    seems to be for fuse-exfat

    $ rpm -q -l exfatprogs|grep -v /usr/lib/.build-id
    /usr/sbin/fsck.exfat
    /usr/sbin/mkfs.exfat
    /usr/sbin/tune.exfat
    /usr/share/man/man8/fsck.exfat.8.xz
    /usr/share/man/man8/mkfs.exfat.8.xz
    /usr/share/man/man8/tune.exfat.8.xz
    $ rpm -qa|grep exfatprogs
    exfatprogs-1.0.3-1.mga7

    While the kernel module /usr/lib/modules/$(uname
    -r)/kernel/fs/exfat/exfat.ko.xz
    replaces the kernel module that was produced by fuse-exfat, the actual
    mkfs.exfat
    program is in the exfatprogs package, as well as its man page.

    Double checking to make sure I don't have a testing version of exfatprogs
    installed,
    the above package is on the mirrors in the updates repo ...

    https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/7.1/x86_64/media/core/upda tes/exfatprogs-1.0.3-1.mga7.x86_64.rpm

    If your's doesn't have the man page, updates have not been installed, or the
    mirror
    doesn't have the update from May 15th, or there was a problem during
    installation
    of the update. Is the / file system full?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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