• Don't install Fedora! (Not OT: read on.)

    From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 07:26:11 2020
    I tried to install Fedora as an alternative OS. Fedora changed my
    existing options to substitute its own swap partition for the ones
    specified in fstab. (Shows its parentage from M$.) That made Cauldron unbootable, for one.

    Fedora uses LVM. Whenever I booted into a different flavor of Linux,
    Fedora's swap partition became active. That was enough to prevent me
    from uninstalling Fedora. I could start Cauldron in Grub's rescue mode
    if I tried the oldest kernel still installed, but not otherwise. I
    tried rebuilding the initramfs, but it did nothing.

    I needed to make sure that no partition in the LVM set was mounted. I
    did that by booting the System Rescue CD that Bits always recommends. It
    is an essential tool in my toolkit.

    In the System Rescue environment, no partitions were mounted, and I was
    able to use gparted to deactivate the Fedora LVM, making it invisible to
    the kernel. I then tried to delete the partition, but the CD told me
    that if I did, I would have an unholy mess, and to "do it properly."
    That means first removing all the drives it contains, one by one.

    OpenSUSE uses LVM as well, but didn't give me all this trouble. From
    memory, it gave me the option to choose a sane filesystem. But OpenSUSE
    had its own drawbacks. Mageia is still the best!

    [The spellchecker suggested "Marriage" as an alternative for unknown
    "Mageia." Seriously?]

    Doug.

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 11:57:25 2020
    On 2/5/20 4:26 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I tried to install Fedora as an alternative OS.  Fedora changed my
    existing options to substitute its own swap partition for the ones
    specified in fstab.  (Shows its parentage from M$.)  That made Cauldron unbootable, for one.

    Fedora uses LVM.  Whenever I booted into a different flavor of Linux, Fedora's swap partition became active.  That was enough to prevent me from  uninstalling Fedora.  I could start Cauldron in Grub's rescue mode if I tried the oldest kernel still installed, but not otherwise.  I
    tried rebuilding the initramfs, but it did nothing.

    I needed to make sure that no partition in the LVM set was mounted.  I
    did that by booting the System Rescue CD that Bits always recommends. It
    is an essential tool in my toolkit.

    In the System Rescue environment, no partitions were mounted, and I was
    able to use gparted to deactivate the Fedora LVM, making it invisible to
    the kernel.  I then tried to delete the partition, but the CD told me
    that if I did, I would have an unholy mess, and to "do it properly."
    That means first removing all the drives it contains, one by one.

    OpenSUSE uses LVM as well, but didn't give me all this trouble.  From memory, it gave me the option to choose a sane filesystem.  But OpenSUSE had its own drawbacks. Mageia is still the best!

    [The spellchecker suggested "Marriage" as an alternative for unknown "Mageia."  Seriously?]

    Doug.

    This may be a fallout from Fedora, maybe not. Since uninstalling
    Fedora, updating Mageia from the Rescue CD and reinstalling Mageia
    twice, I still can't boot Mageia 7 normally; I see a grub> prompt. The
    rEFInd CD gave me two installation links, and I have my desktop thanks
    to one of them. Ubuntu mentions a bootfix CD at SourceForge. It is
    claimed to work for any distro, RPM or Debian based. It is called "boot-repair-disk."

    I need to know more about troubleshooting. The Linux Cookbook I have is
    very out of date, and is useful only for using the command line. Is
    there a book that is a bit better than that, but still sufficiently non-technical to be useful at my level of knowledge?

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 15:43:41 2020
    On Sat, 2 May 2020 20:57:25 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:


    This may be a fallout from Fedora, maybe not. Since uninstalling
    Fedora, updating Mageia from the Rescue CD and reinstalling Mageia
    twice, I still can't boot Mageia 7 normally;

    I am a bit curious about "install". Is that Mageia boot loader install
    or a Mageia software install?


    I see a grub> prompt.

    Usually caused by inconsistencies in /etc/fstab, or grub.cfg,
    otherwise something clobbered in the files in /boot/grub2.

    The rEFInd CD gave me two installation links, and I have my desktop
    thanks to one of them.

    Ubuntu mentions a bootfix CD at SourceForge. It is
    claimed to work for any distro, RPM or Debian based. It is called "boot-repair-disk."

    I need to know more about troubleshooting. The Linux Cookbook I have is
    very out of date, and is useful only for using the command line.

    Yes, command line is the lowest level for easy human communication with
    the Operating System.

    System GUI level apps are either wrappers around command line tools or interface for modifying system configuration files. Problem is when
    Desktop Manager is AFU, you are helpless if you have no knowledge of
    command line or configuration files involved in a given task.

    Is there a book that is a bit better than that, but still
    sufficiently non-technical to be useful at my level of knowledge?

    I would be impressed if there was. Best chance of success is knowledge
    about what you are doing. From what I can gather from your post, the boot problem was basically caused by you not using the Mageia boot loader.

    Personally I find it much safer to gain knowledge about new distributions
    by playing with them in a virtual machine. Quite easy to start over rather
    than having to unscramble your eggs by playing on your live "Production" install.




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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 16:24:17 2020
    On 5/2/20 3:57 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 2/5/20 4:26 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    I tried to install Fedora as an alternative OS.  Fedora changed my
    existing options to substitute its own swap partition for the ones
    specified in fstab.  (Shows its parentage from M$.)  That made
    Cauldron unbootable, for one.

    Fedora's parentage is Red Hat Enterprise Linux actually. Red Hat was one of the most successful Linux companies in the USA with
    great earnings so Linux using company of some note bought it last
    year. That company was IBM.



    Fedora uses LVM.  Whenever I booted into a different flavor of Linux,
    Fedora's swap partition became active.  That was enough to prevent me
    from  uninstalling Fedora.  I could start Cauldron in Grub's rescue
    mode if I tried the oldest kernel still installed, but not otherwise.
    I tried rebuilding the initramfs, but it did nothing.

    As BT suggest a virtual machine is much better than a hardware install especially on your Mageia machine.

    I needed to make sure that no partition in the LVM set was mounted.  I
    did that by booting the System Rescue CD that Bits always recommends.
    It is an essential tool in my toolkit.

    In the System Rescue environment, no partitions were mounted, and I
    was able to use gparted to deactivate the Fedora LVM, making it
    invisible to the kernel.  I then tried to delete the partition, but
    the CD told me that if I did, I would have an unholy mess, and to "do
    it properly." That means first removing all the drives it contains,
    one by one.

    OpenSUSE uses LVM as well, but didn't give me all this trouble.  From
    memory, it gave me the option to choose a sane filesystem.  But
    OpenSUSE had its own drawbacks. Mageia is still the best!

    [The spellchecker suggested "Marriage" as an alternative for unknown
    "Mageia."  Seriously?]

    Believe it or not Marriage is more common than Mageia.

    Doug.

    This may be a fallout from Fedora, maybe not.  Since uninstalling
    Fedora, updating Mageia from the Rescue CD and reinstalling Mageia
    twice, I still can't boot Mageia 7 normally; I see a grub> prompt.  The rEFInd CD gave me two installation links, and I have my desktop thanks
    to one of them.  Ubuntu mentions a bootfix CD at SourceForge.  It is claimed to work for any distro, RPM or Debian based. It is called "boot-repair-disk."

    Back up your data.
    Start from a clean disk wiping out anything remotely connected
    with the Fedora. After you have delete the old partitions re-install
    Mageia. Update virtualBox or which ever virtual machine Mageia may
    be using, then run Fedora if you must on that virtual machine.


    I need to know more about troubleshooting.  The Linux Cookbook I have is very out of date, and is useful only for using the command line.  Is
    there a book that is a bit better than that, but still sufficiently non-technical to be useful at my level of knowledge?

    Everyone needs the CLI at some point. This is for me a hobby that requires some comfort with technology. Maybe study more.
    The most valuable books I got to study were Knoppix for Dummies. I am
    too weak to hold up the RH bible long enough to do anything useful

    I just got thru with moving my test machine to an SSD to speed
    up that VB and will be running Mageia 7.1 on the VB. It was not easy
    and under the built in graphical partitioning tool I could not seem to
    catch a break. Finally I used my PartEd Magic to do the partitioning
    and my next and final install worked a treat.

    bliss

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 16:40:54 2020
    On Sat, 2 May 2020 08:24:17 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I just got thru with moving my test machine to an SSD to speed
    up that VB and will be running Mageia 7.1 on the VB. It was not easy
    and under the built in graphical partitioning tool I could not seem to
    catch a break. Finally I used my PartEd Magic to do the partitioning
    and my next and final install worked a treat.

    Never tried the Mageia partitioning tool. I use gparted from a 676M systemrescuecd.iso from http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/. Site has the instructions for getting the iso on a bootable usb drive if desired.

    I defiantly want a rescue cd with all the tools I might need to repair
    or recover files.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 16:53:08 2020
    On 5/2/20 8:40 AM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Sat, 2 May 2020 08:24:17 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I just got thru with moving my test machine to an SSD to speed
    up that VB and will be running Mageia 7.1 on the VB. It was not easy
    and under the built in graphical partitioning tool I could not seem to
    catch a break. Finally I used my PartEd Magic to do the partitioning
    and my next and final install worked a treat.

    Never tried the Mageia partitioning tool. I use gparted from a 676M systemrescuecd.iso from http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/. Site has the instructions for getting the iso on a bootable usb drive if desired.

    I have used GPartEd but it seemed to be taking forever while
    PartEd Magic worked very fast. I used the PCLinux partitioning tool
    in PCC probably the same took in MCC under Mageia.


    I defiantly want a rescue cd with all the tools I might need to repair
    or recover files.

    Why be defiant but maybe definitely? Sometimes a rescue tool is
    on an Install disk and sometimes not. In Mandriva Days the Install Disk
    had lots of power. I ran several different Rescue disks on my SSD but
    the original use of another tool left me wasting my time. I used by
    the way SuperGrub2 Disk, SystemRescue Disk and Rescatux(my go-to tool).
    If these had worked the story would be different.

    Maybe if I was more clever they would have worked but if I was
    more clever I would not have had a problem to repair.

    bliss - I have an athletic nose, it runs in all weathers...

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 2 17:16:10 2020
    On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:40:54 -0400, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 2 May 2020 08:24:17 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I just got thru with moving my test machine to an SSD to speed
    up that VB and will be running Mageia 7.1 on the VB. It was not easy
    and under the built in graphical partitioning tool I could not seem to
    catch a break. Finally I used my PartEd Magic to do the partitioning
    and my next and final install worked a treat.

    Never tried the Mageia partitioning tool. I use gparted from a 676M systemrescuecd.iso from http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/. Site has the instructions for getting the iso on a bootable usb drive if desired.

    I defiantly want a rescue cd with all the tools I might need to repair
    or recover files.

    Use the command "swapon -s" to see which swap partitions are in use (aka mounted).
    Use "swapoff /dev/????" to deactivate the swap partition. Many distros, Mageia included, will normally activate all available swap partitions during boot.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 3 03:52:31 2020
    On 3/5/20 1:53 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


        bliss - I have an athletic nose, it runs in all weathers...

    An oldie but a goodie and I still laughed :-)

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 3 04:04:04 2020
    On 5/2/20 7:52 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 3/5/20 1:53 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


         bliss - I have an athletic nose, it runs in all weathers...

    An oldie but a goodie and I still laughed  :-)


    And a laugh is good but it is no joke at all.

    bliss- a retired nurse in San Francisco

    "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
    It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
    the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
    It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
    --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

    P.S.
    And now in the plague year my favorite Chocolate Shop and
    News Stand has been closed. Non-essential to whomever? I will
    have to eat my secondary backup chocolate and I have enough to last
    thru July I believe.
    I truely hope no one puts Fedora on a valuable hard disk,

    bs

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 3 13:25:41 2020
    On 3/5/20 1:04 pm, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


         "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
         It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
         the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
         It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
            --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

    I remember reading Dune many many many... years ago, in my early years,
    maybe too early. I found it a bit tedious toward the end, I think, or
    maybe I was starting to becoming more disillusioned with things in general.

    Still, the movie did not do it justice.

    I didn't read the sequels



        P.S.
        And now in the plague year my favorite Chocolate Shop and
    News Stand has been closed.  Non-essential to whomever?  I will

    Chocolate: I can empathize with. Currently I have a taste for rum and
    raisin block. Or are you referring to drinking chocolate?
    With you on that also.

    regards


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 3 17:24:10 2020
    On 5/3/20 5:25 AM, faeychild wrote:
    On 3/5/20 1:04 pm, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


          "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
          It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
          the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
          It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
             --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

    I remember reading Dune many many many... years ago, in my early years, maybe too early. I found it a bit tedious toward the end, I think, or
    maybe I was starting to becoming more disillusioned with things in general.

    Well it is an ecological story. Dune is a desert planet with only Sandworms producing a valuable anti-agathic spice. But the Fremen
    want it to rain on Dune which will kill the Sandworms.
    So there is some ecological conflict with the Empire and with
    the Navigators Guild, both of which have the motto "the Spice Must
    Flow!" The Empire and the Guild both depend on the powers to move
    thru SpaceTime that the Spice confers.


    Still, the movie did not do it justice.

    Very typical of SF movies. But the problems in Production
    were very great.


    I didn't read the sequels


    I read some of them but they were not great stories.
    Paul Atrides the godlike hero becomes a Sandworm.


         P.S.
         And now in the plague year my favorite Chocolate Shop and
    News Stand has been closed.  Non-essential to whomever?  I will

    Chocolate: I can empathize with. Currently I have a taste for rum and
    raisin block. Or are you referring to drinking chocolate?
    With you on that also.

    Guittard 72% Quetzalcotal [blend No. 07] 80 gram chocolate bar.
    Second in line presently is Guittard X based on Chocolate produced on
    the West Coast called Eureka Works in the late 1800s 62% cocoa solids
    It is very good but I have to ration it, a 60 Gram bar.

    For drinking cocoa I use Ghiradelli pure cocoa powder with half
    the recommended sugar, using a half tablespoon of sugar to a tablespoon
    of cocoa in a small glass cup, One tablespoon of cold water to mix, the
    same of creamer or creamer then hot water to dilute as desired.
    The cocoa is more widely available than the Guittard bars. If I had
    the money I would use Guittard powder.

    I found a less expensive Fair Trade cocoa at Trader Joe's the
    other day and shortly will begin a trial of it as to whether it can
    replace the Ghiradelli powder. In case you haven't heard a lot of
    child labor is used in cacao production. Fair Trade is supposed to
    be less exploitative.

    My cheap backup is the Pound Plus Bittersweet 72% bar from
    Trader Joe's which I formerly used to make Gluten Free cup cakes/muffins
    but due to reduced activity I have given up baking for several years.
    It costs no more than the 80 gram bar from Guittard but the Guittard
    company spends more time on conching the chocolate I believe which
    results in a much smoother product.


    regards


    Before I got sensitive to milk I ate Hershey bars and I
    liked them. But this Guittard and Ghiradelli chocolate is much
    better.
    bliss

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 3 23:59:32 2020
    On 4/5/20 2:24 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/3/20 5:25 AM, faeychild wrote:
    On 3/5/20 1:04 pm, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


          "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
          It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
          the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
          It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
             --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

    I remember reading Dune many many many... years ago, in my early
    years, maybe too early. I found it a bit tedious toward the end, I
    think, or maybe I was starting to becoming more disillusioned with
    things in general.

        Well it is an ecological story.  Dune is a desert planet with only Sandworms producing a valuable anti-agathic spice.  But the Fremen
    want it to rain on Dune which will kill the Sandworms.
        So there is some ecological conflict with the Empire and with
    the Navigators Guild, both of which have the motto "the Spice Must
    Flow!" The Empire and the Guild both depend on the powers to move
    thru SpaceTime that the Spice confers.


    Still, the movie did not do it justice.

        Very typical of SF movies.  But the problems in Production
    were very great.

    Always the way.. Imagination does a much better job so the reality is a disappointment.


    I didn't read the sequels


        I read some of them but they were not great stories.
    Paul Atrides the godlike hero becomes a Sandworm.

    "Becomes a sandworm"
    Oh Dear. So it became a bit mystical and magical and Herbert wandered
    a bit.

    I haven't read any sci-fi for years.
    When I exhausted the old masters and they "warped on ahead", and
    Heinlein seemed to go a bit strange, I sorta drifted away




        I found a less expensive Fair Trade cocoa at Trader Joe's the
    other day and shortly will begin a trial of it as to whether it can
    replace the Ghiradelli powder.  In case you haven't heard a lot of
    child labor is used in cacao production. Fair Trade is supposed to
    be less exploitative.

    We get Aldi stores here - quite a few European chocolates slip in so I
    should keep an eye peeled for the french chocolate



        My cheap backup is the Pound Plus Bittersweet 72% bar from
    Trader Joe's which I formerly used to make Gluten Free cup cakes/muffins
    but due to reduced activity I have given up baking for several years.
    It costs no more than the 80 gram bar from Guittard but the Guittard
    company spends more time on conching the chocolate I believe which
    results in a much smoother product.

    The popular chocolate here is "Cadbury" (currently Rum & Raisin for me)
    and is very smooth, heavily conched as you say.

    There used to be "Nestle" presence that seems to have faded.



        Before I got sensitive to milk I ate Hershey bars and I
    liked them.  But this Guittard and Ghiradelli chocolate is much
    better.


    I did try Hershey once - someone slipped it in on an international
    flight. I can't remember what it tasted like.

    Umm we have gone way off topic, Bobbie The sirens may sound. :-(

    regards


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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 4 00:25:21 2020
    On 04.05.2020 at 08:59, faeychild scribbled:

    On 4/5/20 2:24 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I found a less expensive Fair Trade cocoa at T=
    rader Joe's the
    other day and shortly will begin a trial of it as to whether it can=20 replace the Ghiradelli powder.=C2=A0 In case you haven't heard a lot of child labor is used in cacao production. Fair Trade is supposed to
    be less exploitative. =20
    =20
    We get Aldi stores here - quite a few European chocolates slip in so
    I should keep an eye peeled for the french chocolate

    You haven't tasted any real chocolate until you've tried Belgian
    chocolate. :p

    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 4 00:36:24 2020
    On 5/3/20 4:25 PM, Aragorn wrote:
    On 04.05.2020 at 08:59, faeychild scribbled:

    On 4/5/20 2:24 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

        I found a less expensive Fair Trade cocoa at Trader Joe's the
    other day and shortly will begin a trial of it as to whether it can
    replace the Ghiradelli powder.  In case you haven't heard a lot of
    child labor is used in cacao production. Fair Trade is supposed to
    be less exploitative.

    We get Aldi stores here - quite a few European chocolates slip in so
    I should keep an eye peeled for the french chocolate

    You haven't tasted any real chocolate until you've tried Belgian
    chocolate. :p

    Ok anyone who wants to continue this discussion join me over in rec.food.chocolate. As faeychild warns me we are way way off topic.

    bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme dot com)

    --
    bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

    "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
    It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
    the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
    It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
    --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 4 05:11:27 2020
    On 4/5/20 9:25 am, Aragorn wrote:
    On 04.05.2020 at 08:59, faeychild scribbled:

    On 4/5/20 2:24 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

        I found a less expensive Fair Trade cocoa at Trader Joe's the
    other day and shortly will begin a trial of it as to whether it can
    replace the Ghiradelli powder.  In case you haven't heard a lot of
    child labor is used in cacao production. Fair Trade is supposed to
    be less exploitative.

    We get Aldi stores here - quite a few European chocolates slip in so
    I should keep an eye peeled for the french chocolate

    You haven't tasted any real chocolate until you've tried Belgian
    chocolate. :p



    I have tasted Belgian chocolate - bought it in Bruges - and I agree
    totally.

    regards

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Wed May 6 07:05:42 2020
    On 3/5/20 2:16 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:40:54 -0400, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 2 May 2020 08:24:17 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

      I just got thru with moving my test machine to an SSD to speed
    up that VB and will be running Mageia 7.1 on the VB.  It was not easy
    and under the built in graphical partitioning tool I could not seem to
    catch a break.  Finally I used my PartEd Magic to do the partitioning
    and my next and final install worked a treat.

    Never tried the Mageia partitioning tool. I use gparted from a 676M
    systemrescuecd.iso from http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/. Site has the
    instructions for getting the iso on a bootable usb drive if desired.

    I defiantly want a rescue cd with all the tools I might need to repair
    or recover files.

    Use the command "swapon -s" to see which swap partitions are in use (aka mounted).
    Use "swapoff /dev/????" to deactivate the swap partition. Many distros, Mageia
    included, will normally activate all available swap partitions during boot.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, David. since I uninstalled Fedora, the Fedora swap partition no longer exists, but other distros look for it.rEFInd, the only reliable bootloader at the moment, shows 3 entries for Mageia, only one of which
    works. I have a lot more cleaning up to do. Usually, I need to
    reinstall everything else. This is normal for any fundamental change,
    such as installing or uninstalling a second OS.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed May 6 09:16:02 2020
    On Wed, 06 May 2020 02:05:42 -0400, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
    On 3/5/20 2:16 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    Use the command "swapon -s" to see which swap partitions are in use (aka
    mounted).
    Use "swapoff /dev/????" to deactivate the swap partition. Many distros,
    Mageia
    included, will normally activate all available swap partitions during boot.

    Thanks, David. since I uninstalled Fedora, the Fedora swap partition no longer exists, but other distros look for it.rEFInd, the only reliable bootloader at the moment, shows 3 entries for Mageia, only one of which works. I have a lot more cleaning up to do. Usually, I need to
    reinstall everything else. This is normal for any fundamental change,
    such as installing or uninstalling a second OS.

    For each installed distro, ensure there is no reference to the no longer available
    swap partition in /etc/fstab.

    Add the nofail option to each entry in fstab including the swap, except the root
    file system for that distro.

    Run "dracut -f" and update-grub or the equivalent for the other distros, to ensure
    it doesn't try to mount the missing swap or stop the boot if partitions other then
    the root filesystem fail to mount.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@2:250/1 to All on Wed May 6 22:02:38 2020
    On 5/3/20 9:11 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 4/5/20 9:25 am, Aragorn wrote:
    On 04.05.2020 at 08:59, faeychild scribbled:

    On 4/5/20 2:24 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

          I found a less expensive Fair Trade cocoa at Trader Joe's the >>>> other day and shortly will begin a trial of it as to whether it can
    replace the Ghiradelli powder.  In case you haven't heard a lot of
    child labor is used in cacao production. Fair Trade is supposed to
    be less exploitative.

    We get Aldi stores here - quite a few European chocolates slip in so
    I should keep an eye peeled for the french chocolate

    You haven't tasted any real chocolate until you've tried Belgian
    chocolate. :p



    I have tasted Belgian chocolate  - bought it in Bruges - and I agree totally.

    regards

    Belgian chocolate occurs in several forms I am sure as
    my Trader Joe's Pound plus bar is from Belgium. It is very rich
    in flavor but would require further conching to be a item sold
    for immediate consumption. So I have tasted one sort of Belgian
    chocolate. Guittard is a nicer chocolate to sell to consumers.
    but I am not interested in fighing over the use of cacao.

    bliss

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