• Solved: Laser-Faxmachine / All-in-one?

    From Markus Robert Kessler@2:250/1 to All on Sun Aug 11 10:43:59 2019
    Hi everyone,

    please allow me to share my experiences with "All in one Fax-devices"
    here.

    After a really exciting and informative discussion about what to buy and
    how to use, I finally got a

    Brother MFC-L2710DW.

    One of the main reasons was that this machine supports PCL6 emulation and
    can be accessed as "driverless", even through a VPN. This means that you
    only have to get and import a suitable PPD file -- you can extract it out
    of the RPM from the manufacturer -- and print via IPP.
    So, there's no need to do all the struggle with the "installation helper" script, which installs all the whistles and bells that nobody really
    needs. I was expecting something like that, and did a test install on a virtual machine first to not mess up a procuctive box. And that was a
    good idea.

    Well, the machine supports duplex print, which is also a good means to
    make double sided copies of invoices etc,

    But be aware that this box has at least 2x the dimensions (depth) of semi-
    pro machines like my former HP MFPM 127 fn. Professional devices just
    seem to be a little more massive.

    Next thing worth mentioning is, that scanning is at least 3x as fast as
    known from my former HP. Besides this, sending faxes in "fine" resolution works flawlessly, while on my HP this never did.

    Sad to say, that "Scan-to-mail" is a fake, because Brother means by that,
    that you have to connect a Windows PC via USB and this one then sends the faxes out by mail, even though the fax machine itself can send emals by accessing an smtp server outside. So it would be easy to just attach the
    scan as image file to an email. This is just a matter of software, but
    Brother does not support this by some reason.

    Menu structuring is good, even though some people complain that this is confusing in some points. But as far as I have seen, other machines are
    often worse.

    Display has background light (where HP does not) and is well readable.

    The web surface which can be accessed via browser is very good and
    contains everything you will ever want to set or modify and every
    parameter you may want to monitor.

    In short:

    For this price -- around 150 euros -- this is a really good choice if you
    want an "All in one Fax machine" and want to access it mainly from your
    linux boxes. I can honestly recommend this one.

    Thanks for all your great ideas in this wonderful discussion!

    Best regards,

    Markus

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  • From Dirk T. Verbeek@2:250/1 to All on Sun Aug 11 12:36:41 2019
    Op 11-08-19 om 11:43 schreef Markus Robert Kessler:
    Hi everyone,

    please allow me to share my experiences with "All in one Fax-devices"
    here.

    After a really exciting and informative discussion about what to buy and
    how to use, I finally got a

    Brother MFC-L2710DW.

    One of the main reasons was that this machine supports PCL6 emulation and
    can be accessed as "driverless", even through a VPN. This means that you
    only have to get and import a suitable PPD file -- you can extract it out
    of the RPM from the manufacturer -- and print via IPP.
    So, there's no need to do all the struggle with the "installation helper" script, which installs all the whistles and bells that nobody really
    needs. I was expecting something like that, and did a test install on a virtual machine first to not mess up a procuctive box. And that was a
    good idea.

    Well, the machine supports duplex print, which is also a good means to
    make double sided copies of invoices etc,

    But be aware that this box has at least 2x the dimensions (depth) of semi- pro machines like my former HP MFPM 127 fn. Professional devices just
    seem to be a little more massive.

    Next thing worth mentioning is, that scanning is at least 3x as fast as
    known from my former HP. Besides this, sending faxes in "fine" resolution works flawlessly, while on my HP this never did.

    Sad to say, that "Scan-to-mail" is a fake, because Brother means by that, that you have to connect a Windows PC via USB and this one then sends the faxes out by mail, even though the fax machine itself can send emals by accessing an smtp server outside. So it would be easy to just attach the
    scan as image file to an email. This is just a matter of software, but Brother does not support this by some reason.

    Menu structuring is good, even though some people complain that this is confusing in some points. But as far as I have seen, other machines are
    often worse.

    Display has background light (where HP does not) and is well readable.

    The web surface which can be accessed via browser is very good and
    contains everything you will ever want to set or modify and every
    parameter you may want to monitor.

    In short:

    For this price -- around 150 euros -- this is a really good choice if you want an "All in one Fax machine" and want to access it mainly from your
    linux boxes. I can honestly recommend this one.

    Thanks for all your great ideas in this wonderful discussion!

    Best regards,

    Markus

    Thanks for your useful feedback!

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  • From Dan Purgert@2:250/1 to All on Sun Aug 11 12:54:38 2019
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    Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    [...]
    Sad to say, that "Scan-to-mail" is a fake, because Brother means by that, that you have to connect a Windows PC via USB and this one then sends the faxes out by mail, even though the fax machine itself can send emals by accessing an smtp server outside. So it would be easy to just attach the scan as image file to an email. This is just a matter of software, but Brother does not support this by some reason.

    Must be a shortcoming in that model then. My L8850-CDW does proper scan-to-email; bouncing it via my SMTP server (well, it scans to PDF,
    then attaches that to an outgoing mail; no intermediary PC required).


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  • From Robert Johnen@2:250/1 to All on Mon Aug 12 14:47:18 2019
    Reply-To: Robert Johnen <tsuyaku@yahoo.de>

    Am Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:43:59 +0000 schrieb Markus Robert Kessler:

    please no X-Post without FollowUp

    Next thing worth mentioning is, that scanning is at least 3x as fast as known from my former HP. Besides this, sending faxes in "fine" resolution works flawlessly, while on my HP this never did.

    The speed of scanning and printing may be influenced directly bei the amount
    of money, the manufacturer gives as charge to a collecting society like "GEMA", "VG Wort" or "VG Bild" in Germany. The more pages
    you can scan and print in a minute, the higher this charge will be.
    So if the maufacturer wants to save money per printer/scanner sold in
    germany, this sometimes leads to the strange effect, that drivers in
    english language scan and print much faster, than drivers for the
    same machine in german beacuse of reduced speed in the software ;-)

    This charge is payed once per machine and because of that you are allowed
    to make legal private copies (see "Urherberrechtsabgabe").

    Robert
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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Tue Aug 13 07:08:15 2019
    On 11/8/19 7:43 pm, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    Hi everyone,

    please allow me to share my experiences with "All in one Fax-devices"
    here.

    After a really exciting and informative discussion about what to buy and
    how to use, I finally got a

    Brother MFC-L2710DW.

    Some of your motives are above me, and I do only "hack" printing. I
    bought a Brother initially because it supported Linux well. A tech of
    German extraction told me that although the brand is Japanese, the
    manufacture is German. I have never tried using the PPD file by itself, because I want any add-ons.

    But your experience supports my assessment of HP. See my reply to
    Maurice, a moment ago.[The logo shows correctly when the lid is up and
    facing away from you, but when the lid is down, the user sees "dy." A
    woman user read it that way.]

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  • From Gerhard Reithofer@2:250/1 to All on Fri Sep 13 17:46:48 2019
    On Sun, 11 Aug 2019, Dan Purgert wrote:

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    Brother does not support this by some reason.
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    Must be a shortcoming in that model then. My L8850-CDW does proper scan-to-email; bouncing it via my SMTP server (well, it scans to PDF,
    then attaches that to an outgoing mail; no intermediary PC required).

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    friend.
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    from Brother support.
    But it's years ago and it may be changed.

    Bye

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