• Fountain Pens & Notebooks

    From Atroxi@VERT to All on Wed Mar 24 23:14:00 2021
    Hi all,

    Lately I've been getting into the habit of writing and journalling again.
    The first time that I did that was when I taught myself the skill of
    making notebooks. Now, however, it's because of fountain pens.

    I'm just wondering whether there are people around here that are also
    into fountain pens or making notebooks. I figured that it would be
    a nice to have a chat about it.

    Right now I'm using a cheap chinese clone of the LAMY Safari as well as a Jinhao 992. I just can't bring myself to buy those ``higher-end'' pens
    so I think I'll just stick with those cheaper ones for the meantime.

    Cheers,
    Atroxi

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  • From Warpslide@VERT/NRBBS to Atroxi on Wed Mar 24 15:37:55 2021
    *** Quoting Atroxi from a message to All ***

    Lately I've been getting into the habit of writing and journalling
    again. The first time that I did that was when I taught myself the
    skill of making notebooks.

    Nice! I've been an on-again-off-again journaler since my early 20's. I've dabbled with both paper & digital journaling, both have their places I find.

    Now, however, it's because of fountain pens.

    Never gotten into fountain pens myself, though I do remember using them on a school trip to a pioneer village.

    Right now I'm using a cheap chinese clone of the LAMY Safari as well
    as a Jinhao 992. I just can't bring myself to buy those
    ``higher-end'' pens so I think I'lljust stick with those cheaper ones
    for the meantime.

    I do like a "nice" ballpoint myself, I seem to be a sucker for anything stainless steel. I've bought several Zebra pens which I like along with a LAMY 4 colour pen (the 405 I believe) which makes journaling nice if you want to accent something in a different colour.

    For awhile I was experimenting with journaling on paper and then snapping a picture of it into Evernote which would OCR it. They even make special moleskine books that are made to be scanned into Evernote.

    It was neat, but I've let that go and and find that an Amazon Basics black notebook works just as well.

    I've never had the greatest handwriting (my sister says I have "boy" handwriting) - but I can read it & that's all that matters. My sister has beautiful handwriting, looks more like calligraphy. More fancy than anything I'm capable of.

    Jay

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Atroxi on Wed Mar 24 20:28:00 2021
    Hello Atroxi!

    ** On Wednesday 24.03.21 - 23:14, Atroxi wrote to All:

    Lately I've been getting into the habit of writing and
    journalling again. The first time that I did that was when I
    taught myself the skill of making notebooks. Now, however,
    it's because of fountain pens.

    What are you journaling? I was raised to write a kind of diary
    for myself or write letters to family and friends. It was
    always fun to get something back in the mail address to me: ESQ.

    I'm just wondering whether there are people around here that
    are also into fountain pens or making notebooks. I figured
    that it would be a nice to have a chat about it.

    I received a few quality fountain pens back in the day. I
    loved/hated using them. I did not always master the best flow of
    the ink. And at least one of them dried up and could not be
    replaced.

    Right now I'm using a cheap chinese clone of the LAMY Safari
    as well as a Jinhao 992. I just can't bring myself to buy
    those ``higher-end'' pens so I think I'll just stick with
    those cheaper ones for the meantime.

    I have forgotten about the contruction of fountain pens. Do they
    both have internal ink bladders? That's the thing that one of
    my favourite pens had and dried up enough to crack and then
    leaked ink.

    Journals and calligraphy kits are having a modest reinterest in
    my shop.

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to Warpslide on Thu Mar 25 19:29:00 2021
    Warpslide wrote to Atroxi <=-

    Nice! I've been an on-again-off-again journaler since my early 20's.
    I've dabbled with both paper & digital journaling, both have their
    places I find.

    That is true. I've used to have an org mode journal that keeps a lot of stuff automatic for me. However, I don't often find myself infront of a computer lately so I went back to having a bullet journal from notebooks that I made from scratch.

    Never gotten into fountain pens myself, though I do remember using them
    on a school trip to a pioneer village.

    It is quite nice. If I'd describe the feeling it's like writing with a ballpoint
    with the line thickness a sign pen. Though if I'm going to be honest I
    mostly did it because I wanted to try it out and save money on pens
    and refill ink. Though if I'm not careful I can see fountain pens to be a
    very expensive thing.

    I do like a "nice" ballpoint myself, I seem to be a sucker for anything stainless steel. I've bought several Zebra pens which I like along
    with a LAMY 4 colour pen (the 405 I believe) which makes journaling
    nice if you want to accent something in a different colour.

    Yes, it is nice to have different colors handy when journalling.
    This is especially so when trying to emphasize certain things that I'm writing.

    However, I wasn't able to stick to it because I often have the itch and urge
    to journal in the most inconvenient of places and instances.

    I'm thinking of purchasing a number of colored bottled ink and a couple more Jinhao 992s for that but let's see. I don't want fountain pens to be a major source of ``income sink'' for me, haha!

    For awhile I was experimenting with journaling on paper and then
    snapping a picture of it into Evernote which would OCR it. They even
    make special moleskine books that are made to be scanned into Evernote.

    It was neat, but I've let that go and and find that an Amazon Basics
    black notebook works just as well.

    That seems to be a more complicated process than just writing that on paper
    or typing it digitally.

    I've never had the greatest handwriting (my sister says I have "boy" handwriting) - but I can read it & that's all that matters. My sister
    has beautiful handwriting, looks more like calligraphy. More fancy
    than anything I'm capable of.

    In my experience women, in general, do have nicer handwriting than men.
    Though I do agree with you that what matters most is that you can understand your own writing.

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to Ogg on Thu Mar 25 20:43:00 2021
    What are you journaling? I was raised to write a kind of diary
    for myself or write letters to family and friends. It was
    always fun to get something back in the mail address to me: ESQ.

    It's mostly daily stuff. I used to have this org-mode system in my
    laptop that I synchronize with my phone before where I put my TO-DOs,
    insights, ``at-the-moment thoughts'' and longform diary-esque entries.

    That seems to be quite fun. I grew up at a time where letters are
    starting to be obsolete so I didn't really have the chance to experience writing to someone. Unless you count those small notes that you pass to
    your friends during class.

    I received a few quality fountain pens back in the day. I
    loved/hated using them. I did not always master the best flow of
    the ink. And at least one of them dried up and could not be
    replaced.

    Yeah, that sucks. I haven't had a pen dry up on me yet but I have been
    aware of that and I'm thinking of just cleaning the pen up if I know that
    I'm not going to use it for a long time.

    I have forgotten about the contruction of fountain pens. Do they
    both have internal ink bladders? That's the thing that one of
    my favourite pens had and dried up enough to crack and then
    leaked ink.

    Yup, they have liquid ink inside them that feeds into a nib. Based on
    what I've gathered when I was mulling over the thought of buying
    fountain pens there seems to be a number of ways to fill up a pen.
    Though the most common one is to use a ``single-use'' cartridge.

    Journals and calligraphy kits are having a modest reinterest in
    my shop.

    That's interesting. While I'm speaking from a sample size of one,
    I do think that journals and the act of writing offer something more
    that offsets the convenience of just typing on a phone or computer.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ATROXI on Thu Mar 25 08:50:00 2021
    ATROXI wrote to ALL <=-

    Lately I've been getting into the habit of writing and journalling
    again. The first time that I did that was when I taught myself the
    skill of making notebooks. Now, however, it's because of fountain pens.

    I'm just wondering whether there are people around here that are also
    into fountain pens or making notebooks. I figured that it would be
    a nice to have a chat about it.

    My wife 'collects' pens. :-) She has different pens for journaling, bible study, work, note taking, etc.




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Thu Mar 25 08:52:00 2021
    OGG wrote to ATROXI <=-

    What are you journaling? I was raised to write a kind of diary
    for myself or write letters to family and friends. It was
    always fun to get something back in the mail address to me: ESQ.

    I had three pen pals when I was younger... One was in Australia.
    That's one of the things about ordering stuff online too - getting
    packages in the 'mail.' :-)

    Remember sending film off to be developed? It was cool when you
    FINALLY got the prints in the mail. :-)



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  • From Warpslide@VERT/NRBBS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Mar 26 09:41:08 2021
    *** Quoting JIMMY ANDERSON from a message to OGG ***

    Remember sending film off to be developed? It was cool when you
    FINALLY got the prints in the mail. :-)

    And it wasn't until you got the pictures back that you found out if you blinked or not. ;)

    We have an old family photo somewhere in an album (my Mom has "80's hair" in it) where everyone looks all happy and wide eyed, but there I am on the right with my eyes closed.

    Jay

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Atroxi on Thu Mar 25 13:22:00 2021
    Atroxi wrote to All <=-

    Right now I'm using a cheap chinese clone of the LAMY Safari as well as
    a Jinhao 992. I just can't bring myself to buy those ``higher-end''
    pens so I think I'll just stick with those cheaper ones for the
    meantime.

    I have a selection of cheap Chinese knock-off pens (One looks exactly like a Parker 51) but my daily driver is a Pilot Metropolitan. For under $20, it's
    a smooth writer with a nice balance.

    I take notes daily in a variety of notebooks, never tried making my own.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Warpslide on Thu Mar 25 13:24:00 2021
    Warpslide wrote to Atroxi <=-

    I do like a "nice" ballpoint myself, I seem to be a sucker for anything stainless steel. I've bought several Zebra pens which I like along
    with a LAMY 4 colour pen (the 405 I believe) which makes journaling
    nice if you want to accent something in a different colour.

    My goto ballpoint pen since my first job out of college is a Parker Classic
    in stainless steel with a gold clip - good balance, refills last forever,
    and the finish is just rough enough to not slip. Cheap and durable - my current one was run over, and has barely a dent to show for it.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Atroxi on Fri Mar 26 06:50:00 2021
    Atroxi wrote to Ogg <=-

    Yup, they have liquid ink inside them that feeds into a nib. Based on
    what I've gathered when I was mulling over the thought of buying
    fountain pens there seems to be a number of ways to fill up a pen.
    Though the most common one is to use a ``single-use'' cartridge.

    Disposable ink cartidges - convenient, sometimes proprietary.

    Ink bladders - dip the pen into the ink and squeeze a rubber bladder to evacuate the air and draw in ink. Some cartridge pens are convertible and
    have a bladder.

    Some pens allow you to fill the body with ink, but that seems awfully dangerous.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Mar 26 06:53:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to OGG <=-

    Remember sending film off to be developed? It was cool when you
    FINALLY got the prints in the mail. :-)

    I had several dozen rolls stored at Yorkphoto.com from 1999 until 2010;
    their mail order processing was $1.99/roll, with 99 cent scans suitable for the web or high-res scans for $4.99.

    I still insist that the lack of instantaneous feedback with film photography made me a better photographer. I'd spend more time composing a shot, whereas now I'll take a dozen pictures to get the composition and exposure right.


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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Mar 26 14:34:00 2021
    On 25 Mar 2021, JIMMY ANDERSON said the following...
    My wife 'collects' pens. :-) She has different pens for journaling, bible study, work, note taking, etc.

    my dad used to. and i'm quite inclined to do so myself, but for me, i have a hard time if i'm not using them, or if there's some reason i might not use
    them all the time (so it'd be hard to keep one just because it looks cool)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Atroxi on Fri Mar 26 09:32:00 2021
    Hello Atroxi!

    ** On Thursday 25.03.21 - 20:43, you wrote to me:

    It's mostly daily stuff. I used to have this org-mode system
    in my laptop that I synchronize with my phone before where I
    put my TO-DOs, insights, ``at-the-moment thoughts'' and
    longform diary-esque entries.

    When I am home and I need to remind myself of something to to do
    at the shop when I get there, I email my self a note to a
    special account with TODO in the subject. And then the
    reverse.. it I need to finish some biz work at home in the
    evening, I email myself to my home account with TODO in the
    suject. For private things, I would use PGP. I could not manage
    that shit with a phone; I'd often to forget to take the phone
    with me some days!

    That seems to be quite fun. I grew up at a time where
    letters are starting to be obsolete so I didn't really have
    the chance to experience writing to someone. Unless you
    count those small notes that you pass to your friends during
    class.

    Most of my journaling was during grade-school. I discovered that
    my dad had a radio that supported the SW bands. He only used it
    for AM. But when I discovered SW it was like the world opened
    up for me. Some ham operators offered "confirmation postcards"
    for anyone who would write to them with date/time of broadcast.

    Grade school also had us participate in a pen pal program to
    exchange letters with students in another school. That seemed
    fun when the letters arrived. But I never maintained any lasting
    connections there. I was too young and getting distracted with
    the girls at hand. ;)

    ..And at least one of them dried up and could not be
    replaced.

    Yeah, that sucks. I haven't had a pen dry up on me yet but I
    have been aware of that and I'm thinking of just cleaning
    the pen up if I know that I'm not going to use it for a long
    time.

    Perhaps mine was designed to be used every day, or emptied if
    not to be used for an extended time. I just got lazy, I guess -
    or forgot to keep up with the routine.

    Though the most common one is to use a ``single-use'' cartridge.

    Yes.. the modern ones have the cartidges. A nice solution. And
    they don't dry up as fast? I really haven't tried those. My mom
    took up calligraphy in her 60's and onward. That's when I
    learned about the cartridge versions. I still have a bunch of
    those supplies. But she still appreciated the convenience of
    composing a letter using a word-processor. She'd decorate the
    printed product with some flourishes of calligraphy.

    ..While I'm speaking from a sample size of one, I do think
    that journals and the act of writing offer something more
    that offsets the convenience of just typing on a phone or
    computer.

    I tried keeping a grocery list using a phone app. But that did
    not work for me. I just use a piece of paper with a grid that I
    duplicate 4x on an 8.5x11" sheet of paper, rip that sheet into
    its respective quarters and have a little stash that I use like
    this:

    https://photos.kolico.ca/tmp/groc-list.jpg

    ..and work my way column by column from right to left until it
    is full. It's pinned onto the fridge where I can always find it
    and grab it.

    This might be a digression of the actual subject of journaling
    and notebooks at the start, but except for signing cheques and
    amassing other notes on pieces of paper, this is the extent of
    handwriting right now.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Mar 26 09:48:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON!

    ** On Thursday 25.03.21 - 08:52, you wrote to me:

    Remember sending film off to be developed? It was cool when
    you FINALLY got the prints in the mail. :-)

    I most certainly *do*. We eventually found a service that
    offered triple copies of photos including two mini "stamp" size
    versions on the same photo for a really low price. All you had
    to do was cut off the minis and you could use those to share as
    momentos too. It was exciting to receive those packages in the
    mail.

    After a while though, the quality of prints from that service
    waned. Sometimes the sets arrived with what looked looked like
    a sepia washover.

    I still have roll of film in a camera that my mom last used over
    10 years ago. I am not sure if there is any place locally that
    would attempt to develop that. But it might be worth mailing it
    out somewhere an hopefully some human attendant at the machine
    can make suitable adjustments if the prints don't look quite
    right.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to WARPSLIDE on Fri Mar 26 09:41:00 2021
    WARPSLIDE wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Remember sending film off to be developed? It was cool when you
    FINALLY got the prints in the mail. :-)

    And it wasn't until you got the pictures back that you found out if you blinked or not. ;)

    LOL - very true! And if you were taking a picture of your television
    screen to 'prove' a high school to the Atari magazine, you better take
    several. If you only take one, you're taking a chance on the 'scroll
    bars' covering the score. :-)

    We have an old family photo somewhere in an album (my Mom has "80's
    hair" in it) where everyone looks all happy and wide eyed, but there I
    am on the right with my eyes closed.

    LOL - I know what you mean!



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to FUSION on Fri Mar 26 09:43:00 2021
    FUSION wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    My wife 'collects' pens. :-) She has different pens for journaling, bible study, work, note taking, etc.

    my dad used to. and i'm quite inclined to do so myself, but for me, i
    have a hard time if i'm not using them, or if there's some reason i
    might not use them all the time (so it'd be hard to keep one just
    because it looks cool)

    Oh not her! :-) If I want to surprise her, I'll just bring in a pen
    or three that she doesn't have. :-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Fri Mar 26 09:50:00 2021
    OGG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Remember sending film off to be developed? It was cool when
    you FINALLY got the prints in the mail. :-)

    I most certainly *do*. We eventually found a service that
    offered triple copies of photos including two mini "stamp" size
    versions on the same photo for a really low price. All you had
    to do was cut off the minis and you could use those to share as
    momentos too. It was exciting to receive those packages in the
    mail.

    Agreed. :-) I had a Kodak DISC as my first 'my camera' camera.
    Those were just cool - LOL

    After a while though, the quality of prints from that service
    waned. Sometimes the sets arrived with what looked looked like
    a sepia washover.

    We would wait until Clark Photo had a 'coupon' mailer thingy in the
    Sunday paper and send it off. :-)

    I still have roll of film in a camera that my mom last used over
    10 years ago. I am not sure if there is any place locally that
    would attempt to develop that. But it might be worth mailing it
    out somewhere an hopefully some human attendant at the machine
    can make suitable adjustments if the prints don't look quite
    right.

    mpix.com - I contacted them last year about some 35mm film... See, I
    have my old 35mm camera my wife (girlfriend at the time) gave me
    for Christmas the year I graduated. It is a Pentax K1000 and was VERY
    very similar to the one I used in photojournalism. Well, I was in a play
    fall of 2019 at the local Community College and we needed a camera with
    a flash that worked for a prop, so I took mine. I then decided to get
    some film, but looked online before I did, to make sure I could get
    it processed. Found them and seemed like a good company...



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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Mar 27 03:21:00 2021
    On 26 Mar 2021, JIMMY ANDERSON said the following...

    Oh not her! :-) If I want to surprise her, I'll just bring in a pen
    or three that she doesn't have. :-)

    hah, sounds like an easy out for you when you've done something silly ;)

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to FUSION on Sat Mar 27 08:29:00 2021
    FUSION wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Oh not her! :-) If I want to surprise her, I'll just bring in a pen
    or three that she doesn't have. :-)

    hah, sounds like an easy out for you when you've done something silly
    ;)

    ME!?!? SILLY!?!?! :-)

    Have you been stalking me? :-)




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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Mar 30 14:05:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    Have you been stalking me? :-)

    Only if it's related to celery. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Warpslide on Tue Mar 30 14:33:00 2021
    Jay,

    We have an old family photo somewhere in an album (my Mom has "80's
    hair" in it) where everyone looks all happy and wide eyed, but there I
    am on the right with my eyes closed.

    That was my luck. You held your eyes open waiting for the flash, and right when the flash occurred, you had to blink...as your eyes had dried out.

    Daryl

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 27 11:22:00 2021
    I have a selection of cheap Chinese knock-off pens (One looks exactly
    like a Parker 51) but my daily driver is a Pilot Metropolitan. For
    under $20, it's a smooth writer with a nice balance.

    I haven't tried a Pilot yet, maybe if I have enough cash to spare I'll
    try that out.

    I take notes daily in a variety of notebooks, never tried making my
    own.

    Making notebooks is cheaper on the long run also it allows you to
    customize the kinds of paper that you have on your notebook. For example,
    you can mix a smooth writing paper and a rougher sketchbook quality paper
    on one notebook and so.


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  • From Atroxi@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 27 11:23:00 2021
    Disposable ink cartidges - convenient, sometimes proprietary.

    Ink bladders - dip the pen into the ink and squeeze a rubber bladder to evacuate the air and draw in ink. Some cartridge pens are convertible
    and have a bladder.

    Some pens allow you to fill the body with ink, but that seems awfully dangerous.

    Yes. I'm using a converter pen right now that allows me to fill a pen with bottled ink.

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    Hey, the first time I've seen a gemini link advertised, I tried hitting
    it but got an error message from Geminaut that it wasn't a valid site.

    That's odd. I opened it just now and it works.

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Apr 1 11:58:00 2021
    Lately I've been getting into the habit of writing and journalling
    again. The first time that I did that was when I taught myself the
    skill of making notebooks. Now, however, it's because of fountain pens.

    I'm just wondering whether there are people around here that are also
    into fountain pens or making notebooks. I figured that it would be
    a nice to have a chat about it.

    My wife 'collects' pens. :-) She has different pens for journaling,
    bible study, work, note taking, etc.

    That's interesting. I'm trying to resist the urge of buying more pens
    than I need at the moment. For now, I have four. I hope that stays that
    way. Haha!

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to Ogg on Thu Apr 1 12:20:00 2021
    When I am home and I need to remind myself of something to to do
    at the shop when I get there, I email my self a note to a
    special account with TODO in the subject. And then the
    reverse.. it I need to finish some biz work at home in the
    evening, I email myself to my home account with TODO in the
    suject. For private things, I would use PGP. I could not manage
    that shit with a phone; I'd often to forget to take the phone
    with me some days!

    It's really interesting how people find vastly different solutions to
    similar problems.

    Lucky you though, I wish I can stay away from my phone for extended
    periods of time. Well, to be honest, I know how I would do that but
    smartphones really are gripping and addictive devices.

    Most of my journaling was during grade-school. I discovered that
    my dad had a radio that supported the SW bands. He only used it
    for AM. But when I discovered SW it was like the world opened
    up for me. Some ham operators offered "confirmation postcards"
    for anyone who would write to them with date/time of broadcast.

    Oh wow. That's interesting. I'm not sure whether people had that kind
    of thing in my country. Maybe I'm not just aware of it, but nonetheless
    it's certainly interesting.

    Grade school also had us participate in a pen pal program to
    exchange letters with students in another school. That seemed
    fun when the letters arrived. But I never maintained any lasting connections there. I was too young and getting distracted with
    the girls at hand. ;)

    Haha! I wish I had that kind of thing when I was growing up.

    Yes.. the modern ones have the cartidges. A nice solution. And
    they don't dry up as fast? I really haven't tried those. My mom
    took up calligraphy in her 60's and onward. That's when I
    learned about the cartridge versions. I still have a bunch of
    those supplies. But she still appreciated the convenience of
    composing a letter using a word-processor. She'd decorate the
    printed product with some flourishes of calligraphy.

    I'm not sure if they don't dry up as fast. Maybe it depends on the ink
    itself. I haven't played around with how fast an ink dries in the
    cartridge but I assume that as long as you keep the nib capped
    the ink should not dry that fast.

    I tried keeping a grocery list using a phone app. But that did
    not work for me. I just use a piece of paper with a grid that I
    duplicate 4x on an 8.5x11" sheet of paper, rip that sheet into
    its respective quarters and have a little stash that I use like
    this:

    https://photos.kolico.ca/tmp/groc-list.jpg

    ..and work my way column by column from right to left until it
    is full. It's pinned onto the fridge where I can always find it
    and grab it.

    This is an interesting system. Would you mind if I copy this and use
    it for my own journal? :-)

    This might be a digression of the actual subject of journaling
    and notebooks at the start, but except for signing cheques and
    amassing other notes on pieces of paper, this is the extent of
    handwriting right now.

    To some extent, I'd have to agree with you. Most of the people that
    I know rarely keep notes and journals anymore. Though, I'd argue
    that this is perhaps one of the reasons why people tend to appre-
    ciate handwriting more nowadays.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ATROXI on Thu Apr 1 08:54:00 2021
    ATROXI wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    My wife 'collects' pens. :-) She has different pens for journaling,
    bible study, work, note taking, etc.

    That's interesting. I'm trying to resist the urge of buying more pens
    than I need at the moment. For now, I have four. I hope that stays that way. Haha!

    I've started 'collecting' pocket knives. :-) Don't know why I've gotten
    into them of late, but very cool! My dad gave me commemeratives over the
    years, and some of them were cool, some not so much, but now I'm really getting into them, so I know more how my wife feels. LOL




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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 2 10:05:05 2021
    Re: Fountain Pens & Notebooks
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ATROXI on Thu Apr 01 2021 08:54 am

    ATROXI wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    My wife 'collects' pens. :-) She has different pens for journaling, bible study, work, note taking, etc.

    That's interesting. I'm trying to resist the urge of buying more pens than I need at the moment. For now, I have four. I hope that stays that way. Haha!

    I've started 'collecting' pocket knives. :-) Don't know why I've gotten
    into them of late, but very cool! My dad gave me commemeratives over the years, and some of them were cool, some not so much, but now I'm really getting into them, so I
    know more how my wife feels. LOL




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    Welcome to the knife club.

    Actually, I am more of a fixed-blade fan. Pocket knives are cool but the ones that are really
    dependable are actually too expensive for that they offer. And besides, I can strap a bowie knife
    on me anyway so portability is not exactly a problem :-)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Atroxi on Fri Apr 2 09:43:00 2021
    Hello Atroxi!

    ** On Thursday 01.04.21 - 12:20, Atroxi wrote to Ogg:

    Lucky you though, I wish I can stay away from my phone for
    extended periods of time. Well, to be honest, I know how I
    would do that but smartphones really are gripping and
    addictive devices.

    The cute icons and app animations (via swiping, gestures, etc)
    and audio alerts, are cute - hence fun? hence addictive?

    ...But when I discovered SW it was like the world opened
    up for me. Some ham operators offered "confirmation
    postcards" for anyone who would write to them with date/
    time of broadcast.

    Oh wow. That's interesting. I'm not sure whether people had
    that kind of thing in my country. Maybe I'm not just aware
    of it, but nonetheless it's certainly interesting.

    What country is that?

    https://photos.kolico.ca/tmp/groc-list.jpg

    ..and work my way column by column from right to left
    until it is full. It's pinned onto the fridge where I
    can always find it and grab it.

    This is an interesting system. Would you mind if I copy this
    and use it for my own journal? :-)

    Ofcourse. Why not? I draw circles for the items I need. Then,
    as I select the items at the store, I fill in the circles. The
    X means I changed my mind, or I didn't need the item afterall.

    ...but except for signing cheques and amassing other notes
    on pieces of paper, this is the extent of handwriting
    right now.

    To some extent, I'd have to agree with you. Most of the
    people that I know rarely keep notes and journals anymore.
    Though, I'd argue that this is perhaps one of the reasons
    why people tend to appre-ciate handwriting more nowadays.

    I've tinkered with leaving voice memos to myself directly on my
    phone device or my iPod, but I still sometimes leave the darn
    phone or iPod behind somewhere. However, I discovered that I
    could use something like Telegram on my phone, "send" a voice
    message to myself, and listen to it on another device that has
    Telegram too.

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    What is this gemini? Are there any screenshots on what it looks
    like?

    I found this series of messages about gemini interesting:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23042424

    So.. from your blog, you do various work with regards to Human
    Osteology and Forensic Anthropology. Interesting. Are you still
    studying, or are you already called upon to investigate cases?

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 2 18:22:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    I've started 'collecting' pocket knives. :-) Don't know why I've gotten into them of late, but very cool! My dad gave me commemeratives over
    the years, and some of them were cool, some not so much, but now I'm really getting into them, so I know more how my wife feels. LOL

    Does that make you a cut-up?? <g,d,r>

    Daryl

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  • From Atroxi@VERT to Ogg on Mon Apr 19 10:28:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to Atroxi <=-

    Hello Atroxi!

    The cute icons and app animations (via swiping, gestures, etc)
    and audio alerts, are cute - hence fun? hence addictive?

    Pretty much. I know it sounds stupid but phones have some level of irresistability that makes it easy to fall to its slippery slope
    of dependence. I've been trying to limit the uses of a phone for me
    because I can't just remove it from my life.

    Oh wow. That's interesting. I'm not sure whether people had
    that kind of thing in my country. Maybe I'm not just aware
    of it, but nonetheless it's certainly interesting.

    What country is that?

    Philippines. I've looked around here for Amateur Radio stuff and
    there seems to be an NGO of sorts that does the licensing but
    information on that is really scant.

    Though honestly, I think that most of those stuff are on Facebook.
    Most of the people in my country consider Facebook as their ``internet''
    and as such almost everything, from commerce to government services,
    are on it. I've mostly cut myself off from that virus so finding
    information about local stuff is quite hard for me.

    Ofcourse. Why not? I draw circles for the items I need. Then,
    as I select the items at the store, I fill in the circles. The
    X means I changed my mind, or I didn't need the item afterall.

    ...but except for signing cheques and amassing other notes
    on pieces of paper, this is the extent of handwriting
    right now.

    Got it! Thanks again.

    To some extent, I'd have to agree with you. Most of the
    people that I know rarely keep notes and journals anymore.
    Though, I'd argue that this is perhaps one of the reasons
    why people tend to appre-ciate handwriting more nowadays.

    I've tinkered with leaving voice memos to myself directly on my
    phone device or my iPod, but I still sometimes leave the darn
    phone or iPod behind somewhere. However, I discovered that I
    could use something like Telegram on my phone, "send" a voice
    message to myself, and listen to it on another device that has
    Telegram too.

    Oh yeah, similar to that e-mail thing. Voice memos are interesting,
    if only I don't feel awkward hearing my voice back. Haha!

    ... {gemini,https}://rtr.kalayaan.xyz -- visit me! :-)

    What is this gemini? Are there any screenshots on what it looks
    like?

    I found this series of messages about gemini interesting:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23042424

    Gemini is a very simple thing to play around with. At the surface it
    just looks like gopher that's buffed up a bit. I mostly went into it
    because I find it easier to maintain my blog through gemini than
    HTTP since it's all just text.

    Because of that, I can just use my acme text editor to do all of the
    heavy lifting of generating the tags and links needed to cross-link
    a blog that I've written to the main ``blog-list''.

    So.. from your blog, you do various work with regards to Human
    Osteology and Forensic Anthropology. Interesting. Are you still
    studying, or are you already called upon to investigate cases?

    I'd say I'm something in between. I've finished my undergraduate
    studies a few years ago but I haven't had an opportunity yet to
    continue my ``academic degree'' and thus I can't consider myself
    as a bona fide Forensic Anthropologist. Right now, I'm working
    at a laboratory that allows me to do Human Osteology from time
    to time.

    But I would certainly like to finish that once I get a chance to
    do so.

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