• Back to The BBS Part 5: The Underground

    From hyjinx@VERT/BTTMLSS to All on Fri Aug 6 20:28:00 2021
    Hi All,

    Just a quick note to say that part 5 of the documentary series, "Back to the BBS: The return to being online" is coming out soon. The episode covers 'The Underground', and is pretty much the only episode of the series that takes a look down history lane as most of the stuff in the underground scene went
    from BBSes and evolved to the net or Darknet many years ago. However there is
    a fascinating interview with Danny Smolders who talks about HPAVC (Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii and Cracking/Warez & Carding). He reminds us of the stories of two folks that got busted.
    However, if you have knowledge or personal insights into the BBS underground scene (especially if it's based on modern day BBS underground stuff), I'd
    love to hear from you before I wrap editing, which I intend on doing this
    week or next at the latest, so please contact me directly & asap if you would like to contribute!

    Cheers,
    Al / hyjinx
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  • From hollowone@VERT/CAPSHRIL to hyjinx on Sat Aug 7 21:36:00 2021
    hyjinx wrote to All <=-

    Hi All,

    Just a quick note to say that part 5 of the documentary series, "Back
    to the BBS: The return to being online" is coming out soon. The episode covers 'The Underground', and is pretty much the only episode of the series that takes a look down history lane as most of the stuff in the underground scene went from BBSes and evolved to the net or Darknet
    many years ago. However there is a fascinating interview with Danny Smolders who talks about HPAVC (Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii and Cracking/Warez & Carding). He reminds us of the stories of two folks
    that got busted. However, if you have knowledge or personal insights
    into the BBS underground scene (especially if it's based on modern day
    BBS underground stuff), I'd love to hear from you before I wrap
    editing, which I intend on doing this week or next at the latest, so please contact me directly & asap if you would like to contribute!


    Hello Al,

    I just wanted to say that what you're doing with these videos is just great. Amazing project that brought many people back and helped other to rediscover the BBS scene.

    I'm among them. I first time tried BBS last year August and I'm not sure if I want to leave this world. Great job!

    /h1
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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to hyjinx on Mon Aug 9 13:40:38 2021
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    By: hollowone to hyjinx on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:36 pm

    hyjinx wrote to All <=-

    Hi All,

    Just a quick note to say that part 5 of the documentary series, "Back to the BBS: The return to being online" is coming out soon. The episode covers 'The Underground', and is pretty much the only episode of the series that takes a look down history lane as most of the stuff in the underground scene went from BBSes and evolved to the net or Darknet many years ago. However there is a fascinating interview with Danny Smolders who talks about HPAVC (Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii and Cracking/Warez & Carding). He reminds us of the stories of two folks that got busted. However, if you have knowledge or personal insights into the BBS underground scene (especially if it's based on modern day BBS underground stuff), I'd love to hear from you before I wrap editing, which I intend on doing this week or next at the latest, so please contact me directly & asap if you would like to contribute!


    Hello Al,

    I just wanted to say that what you're doing with these videos is just great. Amazing project that brought many people back and helped other to rediscover the BBS scene.

    I'm among them. I first time tried BBS last year August and I'm not sure if want to leave this world. Great job!

    /h1


    One thing I would like to see more of (and I admit I haven't watched this series maybe it is covered) is the involvement of youth in the early days.

    We talk about all the sysops and people who created bbs's but we never talk about the 11 or 12 year old in 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, etc who were also pioneering bbs as a way of social life.

    Many had early home computers, learned how to write / code in basic, or machine language, wrote their own bbs's, learned the home computer in/out, used modems, printers, sketch pads, speech synthesizers, etc.

    They didn't just play games, the created games. They traded games.
    They traded software.
    They wrote war dialers and otehr cool stuff.

    Their parents didn't understand what they were doing, and today, those same parents in their 70s and 80s have evolved themselves beyond the mystique of computers into a world where they too just accept and expect on-demand communication from their cellphones, tablets, and pcs. They send emails and texts without a though or even a memory of how their own 50-something year old children were sending emails and connecting to people around the world 40 years ago.

    I'd like to see those 40-60 year old parent's take on where THEY think technology has gone since they first were exposed and addicted to it.

    Are they proud of where it is and what role they played to get it here?
    Are they ashamed
    Embarassed
    disgusted
    Excited
    hopeful

    etc?

    If they could do it again, would they (if they did back then) try to push/expose people to what they were doing and all the possible benefits computers could have on society? Or would they pull back realizing the misuse that would probably ensue?

    Nobody talks to that large group of home computer users from 1978-1988 to see what became of them, whether they abandoned their interest in computers to go to college and start non-it careers, or if it drove them to dive further into it and affect change on it.


    Dunno, just intrests me alot.


    One thing i have always liked about telnet bbsing (and have for 10+ yrs now) is, similar to the ORIGINAL days of dialup bbs'ing at the beginning, most people today do not even know about it. To me, that's the way it should be.

    It's neat that it went from odd, to interesting, to very cool in the 90s, to common place, to the internet, to extinction, and now has come almost full circle back to where its odd and interesting and even kinda cool...

    what's next for bbsIng?

    Me, i think computer to computer conncetions, with no service provider, are going to be the salvation of mankind, when the Big One comes.

    :)


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From Nerdanderthal@VERT/THEMIDNI to hyjinx on Wed Aug 11 17:55:54 2021
    I just watched 4 of the videos on youtube, just wanted to say the video are great and very professional.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nerdanderthal on Wed Aug 11 16:12:45 2021
    Re: Back to The BBS Part 5: The Underground
    By: Nerdanderthal to hyjinx on Wed Aug 11 2021 05:55 pm

    I just watched 4 of the videos on youtube, just wanted to say the video are great and very professional.

    One critique I would give: the audio levels (especially the interviews) are pretty uneven, so perhaps some dynamic compression and limiting would help. Maybe noise-reduction on some of the interviewees that have crappy mic/audio.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Aug 12 12:56:53 2021
    Re: Back to The BBS Part 5: The Underground
    By: Nerdanderthal to hyjinx on Wed Aug 11 2021 05:55 pm

    One critique I would give: the audio levels (especially the interviews) are pretty uneven, so perhaps some dynamic compression and limiting would help. Maybe noise-reduction on some of the interviewees that have crappy mic/audio. --
    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #28:
    We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.
    Norco, CA WX: 88.2F, 34.0% humidity, 6 mph NNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Spoken like a true recording engineer. Did you take a course by any chance?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to hyjinx on Thu Aug 12 15:21:44 2021
    Hi All,

    Just a quick note to say that part 5 of the documentary series, "Back to the BBS: The return to being online" is coming out soon. The episode covers 'The Underground', and is pretty much the only episode of the series that takes a look down history lane as most of the stuff in the underground scene went from BBSes and evolved to the net or Darknet many years ago. However there is a fascinating interview with Danny Smolders who talks about HPAVC (Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii and Cracking/Warez & Carding). He reminds us of the stories of two folks that got busted.
    However, if you have knowledge or personal insights into the BBS underground scene (especially if it's based on modern day BBS underground stuff), I'd love to hear from you before I wrap editing, which I intend on doing this week or next at the latest, so please contact me directly & asap if you would like to contribute!

    Cheers,
    Al / hyjinx
    --
    bbs.alsgeeklab.com:2323
    youtube.com/alsgeeklab
    Back To The BBS Documentary: https://bit.ly/3AxzlR1

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
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    Interesting series there. How many parts do you plan to make?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 12 22:01:57 2021
    Re: Back to The BBS Part 5: The Underground
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Aug 12 2021 12:56 pm

    Spoken like a true recording engineer. Did you take a course by any chance?

    Nope, just some real-world experience.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Fri Aug 13 06:55:53 2021
    Re: Back to The BBS Part 5: The Underground
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Aug 12 2021 12:56 pm

    Nope, just some real-world experience.
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    Sling Blade quote #9:
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    Well I took a course back in 1984. It had 3 parts to the program:

    1. Theory
    2. Basic Studio Techniques
    3. Advanced Studio Techniques

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Sep 17 19:24:00 2021
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    Spoken like a true recording engineer. Did you take a course by any chance?

    Nope, just some real-world experience.
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    :)

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