On 7/20/2021 5:59 AM, Dr. What wrote:

You might appreciate the documentary, "Michael Moore Hates America"

You lost me at "Michael Moore". 8)

It's not pro Michael Moore... it points out all of his conflicts of
narrative and lies.
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On 7/20/2021 7:11 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I do remember getting a deal on 64MB in early 1997, loading a copy of
NT4 (AMD 5x86) and never really looking back.

So that's where all the RAM went!

I've been on the opposite end, I was running 8 GB of RAM on a Core 2 Duo; ended up buying a i7 with 16GB of RAM when I didn't want to bother with RAID that wasn't fully supported by Windows 10 and I had to re-install Windows.

I'll buy something a little beefier next year, it'll be about time to
upgrade my wife's desktop. She gets my system, hers becomes the new BBS.
It's a pattern. :)

LOL.. yeah, I'm a bit spoiled, though I did keep my i7-4790K for a bit
over 5 years.

Currently on an R9 5950X with 64gb ram and a Samsung 980 Pro SSD
(pcie4x4). I passed my old system (3950X with an RTX 3070) to my
daugher, who gets more out of it for gaming... and I'm using the older
GTX 1080 until I can win the NewEgg lottery again.

Windows 11 insiders, but most of my time outside browser/mail is in WSL2
using Docker, VS Code, etc. Thinking about switching back to Pop_OS! as
my main desktop again.

That said, I've got a couple 8gb RPi boards for a couple projects I've
been meaning to spend some time on.
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On 7/20/2021 7:16 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

Man, I miss lan parties. I'd get my ass handed to me now, not that I
didn't back then.

I tried jumping onto a Quake 1 multiplayer game, and I'd forgotten how small the levels were. Had to run non-stop to keep alive, and didn't have time to shoot!

The original Team Fortress mod to Quake 1 was probably my favorite game
of all time. Jump in, play for a while, jump out... no commitment, no
hours and hours of building characters... choose a class, play, die,
repeat... maybe jump classes if your team was weak in a given area.

I never did LAN parties as such, but I worked for a company on an IPX network, and after closing we'd go to the customer service area, hop on a 6 person conference call and do co-operative DOOM until early morning.

I did worked in one place that actually bought Voodoo 2 cards for staff
to game locally after hours though... was only there a few months
though, and never really had a similar culture since.

Later on, different company, and we did the same thing playing Quake. Turned out that the "network" guy wired the IT department office into the server subnet and we brought the company network down a couple of nights, until
they figured out what was going on.

This was back in the 10 mbit, sorta shared ethernet days - departments had a shared hub arrangement with a switch working as a backbone.

That's funny... I remember taking my desktop to work to run updates for software in the later 90's... When I finally was able to get cable
internet, I never wanted to go back.
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On 7/20/2021 9:13 AM, Gamgee wrote:

Met one of my longest/best friends via a roommate that played on
that.

Cool. It was a great piece of software and seemed magical at that time, being able to play multiplayer games on the internet. For me this was
in the mid/late 90's.

Man, I miss lan parties. I'd get my ass handed to me now, not
that I didn't back then.

I used to be able to hold my own in Duke/Doom/Quake, and likely still
could. At least I like to think so. ;-)

I had some nerve damage around 2010, and really haven't been able to
play nearly as well since. Last several times I've played I'm well in
the bottom 1/4 of whatever game... used to do better, just not the same.

Still want to play now and then... I have an r5-2600 in the corner I'm
going to throw bigbox and a bunch of console roms at. Should be able to emulate up to xbox 360 and PS3 for most games. Kind of missed the
PS2-PS3 era of gaming, so not even sure what I'd find fun.
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On 7/20/2021 11:28 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

In the early-mid 90's about half the local boards were running Renegade
though. There were too many stock Wildcat boards, and a mish-mash of
other BBS software. A handful of Synchronet, MajorBBS, TBBS multiline
boards (Garbage Dump, Flatland Center, The Unknown BBS, etc.)

GT Power's original author, Paul Meiners, would have been running his
board, the Programmer's Workshop West, in the Phoenix area during that time.

That name sounds familiar, but don't think I was on that board at all.
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On 7/20/2021 9:03 AM, Brian Rogers wrote:

When you're paying 5+ figures a month, they'll let you bond connections
together. When you're paying $14.95 for POTS dial-up, not so much. ;-)

That 5+ figure seems quite excessive. Where I'm at you could do it for
around 1K/month back in the day. Now you could do it for much less if you didn't want to go fibre or cable.

I may have been thinking of a T1, even then definitely a much higher
price point for bonded lines.
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On 7/20/2021 1:41 PM, Rockapella wrote:

Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-

Tr> In the early-mid 90's about half the local boards were running Renegade
Tr> though. There were too many stock Wildcat boards, and a mish-mash of
Tr> other BBS software. A handful of Synchronet, MajorBBS, TBBS multiline
Tr> boards (Garbage Dump, Flatland Center, The Unknown BBS, etc.)

Renegade had a unique look that a lot of sysops (especially younger sysops of the time) liked, and even the "stock" look and feel seemed to appeal to people
who wanted to have a more unique/"leet" (ugh!) look to their boards.

Actually modding was hard in some areas... hex editor for the OVR, and sometimes a file of a.ans, etc, because whatever the @/% code thing to
display a file instead barely fit in the space.

I'd spent a lot of hours getting RIP working very well back then...

It was pretty common for a lot of boards to have the bog-standard look-and-feel
without much customization overall, but there were definitely some BBS programs
where it was much more common than others. Maximus, MajorBBS, PCBoard, and WildCat! all come top of mind as the programs that, if a board was running it,
you knew exactly how *everything* was going to look (minus *maybe* a menu or two where the sysop put up an ANSI screen).

I remember the first time I saw RIP on a WC board how cool I thought it
was... after the 5th time seeing the exact same config, not so cool
anymore, they were all completely bog standard stock. MajorBBS too, but
at least the chat was fun, and the chat modules could be a blast.

Interestingly, it was always the "sooper-dooper flexible program-to- the-nines" packages that seemed to have this feature (Synchronet,
nowadays, also being in that list). It seemed that while a sysop
*could* customize a board to look and feel exactly as they want, few
did so, because with that flexibility came a degree of complexity that
just added a lot of work to the process, so many sysops just stuck
with the out-of-box experience. (*cough*, Synchronet)

I at one point had probably the most heavily modded Synchronet BBS
online... right now, I've only got the login changed... need to get the newuser module done next. Trying to get motivated to work on a custom
web ui at the same time... new user creation and email verification
being next on the list.

Ironically, some of the packages that had less flexibility (but which
could still be configured rather easily) seemed to be the ones where
you saw more unique boards. RemoteAccess was one that was very popular
in my area, and a lot of sysops had some pretty niftily-customized RA systems.

Don't recall too many RA boards... Renegade was probably 80-90% of the
boards in Phoenix from what I remember. Some had gone to Telegard close
to the end of the scene though. By 1997, I think almost every board I'd
known had shut down. I started RN as something to do on 2002-02-02,
spent so much time tinkering in those first 2-3 years. Synchronet has
changed so much since 2008 or so, that I feel very lost now.
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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Likewise. I would love to try accessing a few boards from
payphones using an acoustic coupler modem and an old terminal
like those tandy 100's or whatever, just for shits and giggles.

What's stopping you?

A lack of pay phones could havee something to do with it, and
perhaps rarity & cost of old terminals, and few BBSes with actual
phone line modems set up to dial into.

All of those things make it more difficult, but are certainly not
obstacles that can't be overcome. Thus my question.



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Hey Dumas;

Dumas Walker wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

No, it is not the Luv Guv. He's been out of office for quite a while. Sadly, most of the governors that have followed him have been worse
rather than better. Looking back now, he was not a bad one. :)

When it comes to politics in general no matter party, careful what you wish
for because typically the next to hold a seat will be worse than who was previously there. It's a sad state when we try not to vote for who'd do the best job, but we vote for who we think will do the least harm.



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Hey Tracker1;

Tracker1 wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

I may have been thinking of a T1, even then definitely a much higher
price point for bonded lines.

Back in the day I had a single T1 I was paying $700/mo for but then it was
well worth the money! It wasn't source-address filtered (I did have another subnet through another host so this worked out great for me, saved me big
on BGP peering costs), the routing was incredible world wide being on Level3 then, and I had full control over DNS forward and reverse.

I could have bonded a pair for another 7 bills/mo but I didn't really need
it. The line was clean as punch, and the routing rocked.

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Vlk-451 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Was there a way people avoid toll charges for BBS connection calls back
in the day, or were there power users who blew every cent they owned
being big baller on the net 24/7?

PC Pursuit used a packet switched network, so for a flat rate you could dial into a local node and dial out to areas that they had an exit node.

Toll fraud was a thing, too.

The megaballers started their own BBSes so people would call them, instead. :)




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Vlk-451 wrote to Andeddu <=-

Likewise. I would love to try accessing a few boards from payphones
using an acoustic coupler modem and an old terminal like those tandy
100's or whatever, just for shits and giggles.

Wear a black trenchcoat pager and mirror shades for maximum 90's hacker effect.


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When it comes to politics in general no matter party, careful what you wish for because typically the next to hold a seat will be worse than who was previously there. It's a sad state when we try not to vote for who'd do the best job, but we vote for who we think will do the least harm.

The Luv Guv was followed by a Republican who came in with high hoped but
turned out to be a total tool. He is the worst one I have served under.
The best one I have served under so far was also the only other Republican.
The three Democrats fall between somewhere with the Luv Guv probably being
at the top of that group.

I mention all of that because it sort of reflects the "be careful what you
wish for" theme. Things can sure get worse.


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Hello Dumas;

Dumas Walker wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

The Luv Guv was followed by a Republican who came in with high hoped
but turned out to be a total tool.

I have NO idea who you're talking about. The Luv Gov has yet to be followed
by anyone. Cuomo's resignation hasn't engaged as of yet.

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Tracker1 wrote to Dr. What <=-

You might appreciate the documentary, "Michael Moore Hates America"

You lost me at "Michael Moore". 8)

It's not pro Michael Moore... it points out all of his conflicts of narrative and lies.

I probably still won't see it, but because it will be telling me what I already know.


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Re: Re: Hey
By: Dr. What to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 16 2021 07:18 am

Tracker1 wrote to Dr. What <=-

You might appreciate the documentary, "Michael Moore Hates America"

You lost me at "Michael Moore". 8)

It's not pro Michael Moore... it points out all of his conflicts of narrative and lies.

I probably still won't see it, but because it will be telling me what I already know.

it's not a bad watch. it's good background music.
everyone knows moore is a piece of shit. i dont even think his own people like him.
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Dumas Walker wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

The Luv Guv was followed by a Republican who came in with high hoped
but turned out to be a total tool.

I have NO idea who you're talking about. The Luv Gov has yet to be followed by anyone. Cuomo's resignation hasn't engaged as of yet.

LOL, I thought you knew I was in Kentucky. :) We had our own Luv Guv back
in the late 1990's/early 2000's. I was not thinking about the latest Luv
Guv of New York. :)


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Hey Dumas;

Dumas Walker wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

LOL, I thought you knew I was in Kentucky. :) We had our own Luv Guv back in the late 1990's/early 2000's. I was not thinking about the
latest Luv Guv of New York. :)

Ahh no I didn't know you were in Kentucky... my bad there I guess.
We've had our issues here in Ct as well but not in those ways. I remember
when the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal broke - I had just landed in Kingston, Jamaica. The taxi driver asked me "hey der mahn what yoo tink bout dat?"
All I could come up with was "at least we know our leader can still get
a piece" <EG> What DO you say to that sort of thing internationally? LOL

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The *ONLY* reason? You don't think a lot of people got tested because.... they felt like CRAP and wanted to know if they had COVID?

Other times employers requested. Then the number of other epople the 'positive 'cases were around.


*Insurance Fraud is HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE business..

And I would HATE to be thhe one with that job,.
Rehab centers milking that dollar
Places wehere gyms closed . OOpz yet fast food remains able to serve.
Libraries "QUARANTINING" books for 5 days. That one second proved i was right it's * M O N E Y * BukllSHItg . And yes it IS a serious pathnogen.

That's when called the police and requested whoever in charge of the poliies to be charged with terrroism, fraud AND abuse..

My nose can smell penny's frof a mile away..

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Your whacko status is CONFIRMED.
Bullshitter/blowhard status is CONFIRMED.

Oh I am a whacko & you are in fact right M
IWith my bullshit i at least attempt toi make a buck :D

Ohter than that.

Screw this and lets have freakin beeer..

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Re: Re: Hey
By: Brian Rogers to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 07 2021 08:13:00

Hey Dumas;

Dumas Walker wrote to DJATROPINE <=-

I do not think they are 100%. There have been incidents of people testing positive and immediately taking a second test that was negative.

I have a ham friend in Indiana and he took 1 test last week and it was negative, took another a few days later and it showed positive. This whole thing was too rushed.

... Old bankers never die, they just lose interest.

HI! I allso took a couple of tests that was negative. And now i suffering from post-covid. Cant trust those tests. Not in Sweden anyway.

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Re: Re: Hey
By: Hexabit to Brian Rogers on Mon Sep 06 2021 11:09 am

Re: Re: Hey
By: Brian Rogers to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 07 2021 08:13:00

Hey Dumas;

Dumas Walker wrote to DJATROPINE <=-

I do not think they are 100%. There have been incidents of people testing positive and immediately taking a second test that was negative.

I have a ham friend in Indiana and he took 1 test last week and it was negative, took another a few days later and it showed positive. This whol thing was too rushed.

... Old bankers never die, they just lose interest.

HI! I allso took a couple of tests that was negative. And now i suffering fr post-covid. Cant trust those tests. Not in Sweden anyway.

Where in Indiana are you located? I'm over the border in Buchanan, Michigan

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Re: Re: Hey
By: Moondog to Hexabit on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:08:00

Im from Sweden, did you mean the other guy in the thread?
I had a friend in the states who died from covid last month.
He was born im Sweden but moved to Winston Salem in North Carolina.
Christer Jonsson, he died 11 august. Same age like me. Born 1976.
Sad! :{
I hope you guys stafe safe!

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Re: Re: Hey
By: Hexabit to Moondog on Mon Sep 06 2021 09:30 pm

Re: Re: Hey
By: Moondog to Hexabit on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:08:00

Im from Sweden, did you mean the other guy in the thread?
I had a friend in the states who died from covid last month.
He was born im Sweden but moved to Winston Salem in North Carolina.
Christer Jonsson, he died 11 august. Same age like me. Born 1976.
Sad! :{
I hope you guys stafe safe!

Yes, I was asking baout the guy in Indiana.. Sorry about the confusion.

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Re: Re: Hey
By: Elf to NIGHTFOX on Mon Jul 26 2021 04:11 pm

| | | )
| 486DX66 [-------] | | (
| o o o [-------] | / _)_
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No such thing ... only a DX2 could be 66 MHz.

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Exodus wrote to Elf <=-

Re: Re: Hey
By: Elf to NIGHTFOX on Mon Jul 26 2021 04:11 pm

| | | )
| 486DX66 [-------] | | (
| o o o [-------] | / _)_
|__________________________________ |/ / /

No such thing ... only a DX2 could be 66 MHz.

haha. Good catch. :-) It's been a long time since I owned a 486! :-)


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