• Re: Samsung

    From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Brian Rogers on Tue Jun 1 03:52:51 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Sat May 29 2021 04:03 pm

    When I got it, was for the sole purpose of interfacing it with my amateur radio software and only that. Once I figured it out and wrote down what to do for others, it went right into a draw where it only comes out every so often for topping off the battery and any IOS updates I may have missed.
    I tried using it for one day, hated it.

    I've been using smartphones since 2007 and went from Blackberry to Windows to Android and finaly to iOS which is my preferance. I love it but I guess it's not for everyone.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zouf on Tue Jun 1 09:08:00 2021
    Hello Zouf

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I've been using smartphones since 2007 and went from Blackberry to
    Windows to Android and finaly to iOS which is my preferance. I love it
    but I guess it's not for everyone.

    We might have had the same Blackberry back in the 2000's and that was more
    than fine for me. Would be still if it'd work on the cell networks.

    Everyone likes what they like... just like with video tape systems some swore by beta, others VHS. Same with phone OS... some like droid, some like ios.
    One thing I like about androids is how I can easily have full control over
    the device and purge a lot of the crap that's default installed that I don't use such as InstaGrudge and deFacingBook. Just battery leeches even if you don't have them open.

    I just wish my Note3 wasn't bootloader locked by AT&T so I could upgrade
    the version of droid on it. I have the highest version with a custom rom
    on it that allows for rooting where I can get easily into the file system
    and after removing apps and such from the GUI menus I can clean up the
    junk left over on the device. Come year end it won't matter since the Note 3 and even my Note 4 no longer will be allowed on the carrier networks since they're blocking devices that use 4G for outbound dialing. Devices that
    use 5G or 4Glte for dialing are the only devices that will be allowed on most carriers. I was hoping a more current ROM would allow the device to use
    it's 4Glte for dialing as well however they're not sensing the OS version they're going by IMEI which will match up with the device model. The claim
    is that devices that dial using 4G slow the rest of the network down. If they ran parallel services this wouldn't be an issue.

    I do have a fully unlocked Note 8 and an A21 to use if I must, but I don't
    like the dimensions of them. Watching vids everyone looks a bit short and fat... and I can look in the mirror if I want to see that <G>

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Lightman on Fri May 28 06:47:00 2021
    Lightman wrote to MRO <=-

    okay mr flipphone.

    they get old, they get dirty, they get scratched, new phones are better.


    flip-phone? I use the old motorola dynatac 8k (brain burner)... lol
    I don't, obviously, but I did see a few of those on ebay
    for like 2 grand US, in case someone wants to go retro...

    I've seen someone gut one of those (The "Gordon Gekko" phone) and turn it
    into a bluetooth handset.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Wed Jun 2 08:30:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Zouf <=-

    We might have had the same Blackberry back in the 2000's and that was
    more than fine for me. Would be still if it'd work on the cell
    networks.

    I started with one of the blue monochrome ones, then an 8700, then a Pearl, then a Curve...

    I loved the email forwarding service with BES - you could set a list of priority senders and only be notified if they emailed - or only receive
    emails on your device from them.

    Less apps meant less distraction, too.

    Back then, Apple had a problem where notifications would block the alarm
    from going off; I'd oversleep and see a notification on the screen when I
    got up, and as soon as I cleared the notification, the alarm would go off.




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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Brian Rogers on Wed Jun 2 17:38:35 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Tue Jun 01 2021 09:08 am

    We might have had the same Blackberry back in the 2000's and that was more than fine for me. Would be still if it'd work on the cell networks.

    Everyone likes what they like... just like with video tape systems some swor by beta, others VHS. Same with phone OS... some like droid, some like ios. One thing I like about androids is how I can easily have full control over the device and purge a lot of the crap that's default installed that I don't use such as InstaGrudge and deFacingBook. Just battery leeches even if you don't have them open.

    I just wish my Note3 wasn't bootloader locked by AT&T so I could upgrade
    the version of droid on it. I have the highest version with a custom rom
    on it that allows for rooting where I can get easily into the file system and after removing apps and such from the GUI menus I can clean up the
    junk left over on the device. Come year end it won't matter since the Note 3 and even my Note 4 no longer will be allowed on the carrier networks since they're blocking devices that use 4G for outbound dialing. Devices that
    use 5G or 4Glte for dialing are the only devices that will be allowed on mos carriers. I was hoping a more current ROM would allow the device to use
    it's 4Glte for dialing as well however they're not sensing the OS version they're going by IMEI which will match up with the device model. The claim is that devices that dial using 4G slow the rest of the network down. If the ran parallel services this wouldn't be an issue.

    I do have a fully unlocked Note 8 and an A21 to use if I must, but I don't like the dimensions of them. Watching vids everyone looks a bit short and fat... and I can look in the mirror if I want to see that <G>

    I prefer iOS for the opposite reason to yourself -- I love the polished
    closed system nature of it which allows Apple phones to be far more efficient than their Android counter-parts.

    I really was a big fan of the look of the Blackberry Curve. I still class it as one of the best looking smart devices ever made. I really hated the operating system though and the Blackberry web-browser was woef. The new Blackberry 5G phone to be relased in 2021 may be of interest to you. It has a QWERTY keyboard and everything.

    The Galaxy Note 3 is a total dinosaur so I am not surprised carriers are phasing out older devices. I use the Galaxy Note 9 at work which I would still class as a reliable device. I like up to date technology unless I am BBSing which is why I always choose to use devices from the 80's.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jun 2 19:47:04 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Lightman on Fri May 28 2021 06:47 am

    Lightman wrote to MRO <=-

    okay mr flipphone.

    they get old, they get dirty, they get scratched, new phones are better.


    flip-phone? I use the old motorola dynatac 8k (brain burner)... lol
    I don't, obviously, but I did see a few of those on ebay
    for like 2 grand US, in case someone wants to go retro...

    I've seen someone gut one of those (The "Gordon Gekko" phone) and turn it into a bluetooth handset.


    you can buy them like that. you can also get a gsm phone that is a clone of a brick
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Zouf on Thu Jun 3 16:23:00 2021
    On 06-02-21 17:38, Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I prefer iOS for the opposite reason to yourself -- I love the polished closed system nature of it which allows Apple phones to be far more efficient than their Android counter-parts.

    I also prefer Apple phones for daily use. There are some things that I can only do on Android, but Apple has been better as the daily driver for me. Doesn't stop me having an Android kicking around for those corner cases. But all other things being equal, I'll reach for the Apple.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 3 19:13:00 2021
    Hello Poindexter;

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    Less apps meant less distraction, too.

    That's why I root mine and remove all the junk I don't ever intend on using... which is most of what's on them.

    Back then, Apple had a problem where notifications would block the
    alarm from going off; I'd oversleep and see a notification on the
    screen when I got up, and as soon as I cleared the notification, the
    alarm would go off.

    Sort of defeats the purpose of having an alarm no?

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zouf on Thu Jun 3 19:23:00 2021
    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Tue Jun 01 2021 09:08 am

    I prefer iOS for the opposite reason to yourself -- I love the polished closed system nature of it which allows Apple phones to be far more efficient than their Android counter-parts.

    I find my iPhone 6 exessively inefficient. If I didn't need to support software on it I'd gladly let it meet Mr. Sledge.

    I really was a big fan of the look of the Blackberry Curve. I still
    class it as one of the best looking smart devices ever made. I really hated the operating system though and the Blackberry web-browser was
    woef. The new Blackberry 5G phone to be relased in 2021 may be of
    interest to you. It has a QWERTY keyboard and everything.

    My crackberry was on Nextel. The 2-way feature was the most intrusive I have ever seen on a phone until today's more modern phones. Just like I seem to
    get texts while on an important call, the 2-way did the same thing. If I didn't have to support texting I'd have NO cell or smart phone.

    The Galaxy Note 3 is a total dinosaur so I am not surprised carriers
    are phasing out older devices. I use the Galaxy Note 9 at work which I would still class as a reliable device. I like up to date technology unless I am BBSing which is why I always choose to use devices from the 80's.

    The Note 3 for me is the perfect size. I have a Note 8 which I can't stand. It's unlocked and I upgraded the firmware to droid 9. I'd gladly sell it. It's still sitting in it's box. I have a nice wallet case for it and tempered glass too.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Fri Jun 4 03:20:43 2021
    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    The Note 3 for me is the perfect size. I have a Note 8 which I can't stand. It's unlocked and I upgraded the firmware to droid 9. I'd gladly sell it. It's still sitting in it's box. I have a nice wallet case for it and tempered glass too.


    I like their monitors.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Thu Jun 3 07:07:00 2021
    Vk3jed wrote to Zouf <=-

    I also prefer Apple phones for daily use. There are some things that I can only do on Android, but Apple has been better as the daily driver
    for me. Doesn't stop me having an Android kicking around for those
    corner cases. But all other things being equal, I'll reach for the
    Apple.

    I'm a cheapskate. A $130 Motorola G7 Power with a $70 512gb SD card acts as
    a media backup for me, and I have all of my movies, music and e-books available wherever I go.

    I'm tempted to replace the screen on a 64gb iPhone 6s I have in my drawer,
    but choosing which movies to bring with me, then converting them to mp4 as needed to copy them over with iTunes turns me off of the idea of switching back.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Fri Jun 4 10:51:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Less apps meant less distraction, too.

    That's why I root mine and remove all the junk I don't ever intend on using... which is most of what's on them.


    I rooted an old Samsung SIII and loved the control over it. Ran LineageOS on it and pared the apps down to the bare minimum.

    I've got a Motorola G7 Power from Cricket Wireless. Motorola is pretty
    sparse compared to other manufacturers builds which is nice, but I'd like to try again.

    My only concern is whether VoLTE and Wi-fi calling would work. I live in a rural/coastal area, with the ocean on one side and hills between me and the inland towers. I need wi-fi calling at home and some carriers are getting picky unneccesarily about allowing NYOD devices onto their VoLTE networks.

    I used to have a nano-cell that plugged into my network, that was nice - but the handoffs were harsh. It'd usually disconnect when you got out of range
    of the nano-cell.



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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Brian Rogers on Fri Jun 4 18:45:25 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Thu Jun 03 2021 07:23 pm

    I find my iPhone 6 exessively inefficient. If I didn't need to support softw on it I'd gladly let it meet Mr. Sledge.

    I don't think it's inefficent at all. iOS is very user friendly. The iPhone 6 is a dated phone from a LONG time ago though so you can't really compare it to modern phones. I would still say that the iPhone 6 will have stood the test of time better than an Android Samsung from the same time period. I still see people using iPhone 6S models along with the iPhone SE today. Both are a lot faster than the 6 but are still almost half a decade old.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Fri Jun 4 14:29:00 2021
    Hello plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I like their monitors.

    Years ago, their CRT monitors rocked. Their flat screen TVs are pretty
    great as well and often get high ratings.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Brian Rogers on Fri Jun 4 17:49:36 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Fri Jun 04 2021 02:29 pm

    Hello plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I like their monitors.

    Years ago, their CRT monitors rocked. Their flat screen TVs are pretty
    great as well and often get high ratings.


    my samsung crt was the first and only monitor to catch fire. luckily i was there when it happened and i chucked it out my 2nd story window into my front yard.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zouf on Fri Jun 4 17:46:02 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Zouf to Brian Rogers on Fri Jun 04 2021 06:45 pm

    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Thu Jun 03 2021 07:23 pm

    I find my iPhone 6 exessively inefficient. If I didn't need to support softw on it I'd gladly
    let it meet Mr. Sledge.

    I don't think it's inefficent at all. iOS is very user friendly. The iPhone 6 is a dated phone f
    a LONG time ago though so you can't really compare it to modern phones. I would still say that t
    iPhone 6 will have stood the test of time better than an Android Samsung from the same time peri
    I still see people using iPhone 6S models along with the iPhone SE today. Both are a lot faster
    than the 6 but are still almost half a decade old.


    I was still using a Galaxy S2 by the time my father was ditching his "modern" iphone around 2016.
    The only reason I replaced the Glaxy S2 is that one of my horses stepped on it.

    User friendly systems are only user friendly until they break. Then they become user hostile
    because, very much by definition, user friendly systems don't come with advanced tools, which are
    usually required to fix breakages. I really hate the term "user friendly" because it has become a
    weasel term, such as "organic democracy" (which is no democracy at all).

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 4 17:46:00 2021
    Hey poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I rooted an old Samsung SIII and loved the control over it. Ran
    LineageOS on it and pared the apps down to the bare minimum.

    Lineage looks pretty sweet. There's a version of it for the Note 3 IF it's not an AT&T bootloader model - which is locked tighter than a virgin wearing 3 chastity belts. Of course mine are of said type :\ There is a ROM of 5.0.1 that's rooted which will load on the AT&T model and not trip KNOX.

    I've got a Motorola G7 Power from Cricket Wireless. Motorola is pretty sparse compared to other manufacturers builds which is nice, but I'd
    like to try again.

    I use Cricket. They resell AT&T's network. Never mucked with a Motorola phone.

    My only concern is whether VoLTE and Wi-fi calling would work. I live
    in a rural/coastal area, with the ocean on one side and hills between
    me and the inland towers. I need wi-fi calling at home and some
    carriers are getting picky unneccesarily about allowing NYOD devices
    onto their VoLTE networks.

    According to the store manager at my local Cricket store, the phone only
    needs to have a bootloader from the same network it's on in order to work.
    My unlocked T-Mobile Note 8 will not do wifi dialing on Cricket for example however it can be flashed for droid 11.

    I used to have a nano-cell that plugged into my network, that was nice
    - but the handoffs were harsh. It'd usually disconnect when you got out
    of range of the nano-cell.

    Those require very strict line of site.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zouf on Fri Jun 4 17:57:00 2021
    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I don't think it's inefficent at all. iOS is very user friendly. The iPhone 6 is a dated phone from a LONG time ago though so you can't
    really compare it to modern phones. I would still say that the iPhone 6 will have stood the test of time better than an Android Samsung from
    the same time period.

    My older Note 3 runs circles around my iPhone 6 performance wise. I suppose which OS one finds "user friendly" is based upon what they're familiar with. For example, I'm used to email account configuration settings being within
    the email app itself, not in the global system configuration app.

    I still see people using iPhone 6S models along
    with the iPhone SE today. Both are a lot faster than the 6 but are
    still almost half a decade old.

    I see people driving vehicles over 100 years old... does that mean they should vanish off the roadways and not be granted registration when they're most likely a lot safer than cars you see in inner cities? The same should be
    said with phones and such... but that's my opinion. I can see yours varies <G>

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jun 5 18:10:00 2021
    On 06-03-21 07:07, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'm a cheapskate. A $130 Motorola G7 Power with a $70 512gb SD card
    acts as a media backup for me, and I have all of my movies, music and e-books available wherever I go.

    That works for those purposes. :)

    I'm tempted to replace the screen on a 64gb iPhone 6s I have in my
    drawer, but choosing which movies to bring with me, then converting
    them to mp4 as needed to copy them over with iTunes turns me off of the idea of switching back.

    Hmm, sounds tedious.


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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Sat Jun 5 10:36:52 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Arelor to Zouf on Fri Jun 04 2021 05:46 pm

    I was still using a Galaxy S2 by the time my father was ditching his "modern The only reason I replaced the Glaxy S2 is that one of my horses stepped on

    User friendly systems are only user friendly until they break. Then they bec because, very much by definition, user friendly systems don't come with adva usually required to fix breakages. I really hate the term "user friendly" be weasel term, such as "organic democracy" (which is no democracy at all).

    The average person is on his/her smart phone for over 4 hours per day -- that is heavy usage compared to a decade ago when it was considerably less than half that amount. If you are an average person, you will REQUIRE a decent smart phone which will allow you to carry out all your social media, video and browsing tasks in a snappy and efficient manner. If you are using budget phones you are more of a traditional phone user who rarely uses their phone to watch video or go on social media applications such as Instagram, TikTok, FaceBook Twitter, etc... A colleague of mine recently replaced his 2018 iPhone 8 (which has the same components as the iPhone X) with an iPhone 12 because it wasn't quite quick enough for his needs. I then saw that he had around 20 tabs open
    on his browser filled with social media shite, multiple Insta profiles, FaceBook accounts along with all the online shopping he was doing and a huge number of apps running in the background to Phones need to be as powerful as PCs now just to keep up with the user as they are now the all-in-one computing device that pretty much ticks all the boxes. I used to be on my computer a lot back in the mid-2000s browing the internet but now I don't even have a computer because my phone is able to handle everything I throw at it.

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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Brian Rogers on Sat Jun 5 10:54:22 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Fri Jun 04 2021 05:57 pm

    My older Note 3 runs circles around my iPhone 6 performance wise. I suppose which OS one finds "user friendly" is based upon what they're familiar with. For example, I'm used to email account configuration settings being within the email app itself, not in the global system configuration app.

    I still see people using iPhone 6S models along
    with the iPhone SE today. Both are a lot faster than the 6 but are still almost half a decade old.

    I see people driving vehicles over 100 years old... does that mean they shou vanish off the roadways and not be granted registration when they're most likely a lot safer than cars you see in inner cities? The same should be said with phones and such... but that's my opinion. I can see yours varies <

    I find it hard to believe that the Galaxy Note 3 with a Snapdragon 800 could perform better than an iPhone 6 with an A8 when Apple was crushing all Samsung phones around that time. Although the A8 is technically the weaker chip, Apple benches far exceed Androids due to the efficency of iOS... this is true even today with the A14 destroying the Snapdragon 888 despite a lower TDP and fewer cores.

    You car analogy is no good in this instance... as technology improves, hardware demands increase. It really isn't viable to be an 'average' smartphone user these days with a 5-6 year old phone. The people who cling onto old smartphones are traditional phone users who are only ocncerned with a light web-browsing, instant messaging, SMS and phone calls.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to MRO on Sat Jun 5 07:27:00 2021
    Hey MRO;

    MRO wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    my samsung crt was the first and only monitor to catch fire. luckily i was there when it happened and i chucked it out my 2nd story window
    into my front yard.

    Wow! Sounds like someone at the factory had a bad solder joint or something!
    I bet the picture rocked before that though. Yes you're quite fortunate you were there at the time it happened. Was it under warrantee?

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zouf on Sat Jun 5 12:01:28 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Zouf to Brian Rogers on Sat Jun 05 2021 10:54 am

    You car analogy is no good in this instance... as technology improves, hardware demands increase
    It really isn't viable to be an 'average' smartphone user these days with a 5-6 year old phone.
    people who cling onto old smartphones are traditional phone users who are only ocncerned with a
    light web-browsing, instant messaging, SMS and phone calls.


    Maybe it is a geographical difference, but the average smartphone user in Spain seems to use it for
    instant messaging, phone calls and a couple of games at best. I rarely see smartphone users do
    computing intensive tasks at all, not because they lack powerful phones, but just because that is
    not something they do on smartphones at all.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Jun 5 11:38:00 2021
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Vk3jed <=-

    I'm a cheapskate. A $130 Motorola G7 Power with a $70 512gb SD card
    acts as a media backup for me, and I have all of my movies, music and e-books available wherever I go.

    And that's why I say "Long Live the SDCard Slot on Phones!!". I carry
    around my movies, tvshows and music on my SDCard so if I'm ever stuck
    waiting somewhere, signal is not an issue and I can at least pass the
    time without going crazy. :-) Also, it makes moving to a new phone a
    breeze - I don't have to wait hours to copy over all those files, just
    pop-out the SDCard from the old phone, and pop it in the new phone.

    I love, love, love Motorola's phones with their Moto Actions (shake for flashlight, facedown for DND). But, I moved to a Galaxy S20+ last year
    because I just needed (wanted?) more power/speed. I love my Galaxy a
    lot, but still want my old Motorola back . . . if only it had a faster processor and more memory. :-(


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to ZOUF on Sat Jun 5 11:39:00 2021
    Quoting Zouf to Arelor <=-

    The average person is on his/her smart phone for over 4 hours per day
    -- that is heavy usage compared to a decade ago when it was
    considerably less than half that amount. If you are an average person,
    you will REQUIRE a decent smart phone which will allow you to carry out

    Maybe that is what happend to me last year. I was putting so much
    demand on my Moto G7 it just could not keep up. I switched to a Galaxy
    S20 + with 128GB space but . . . 12GB of RAM!! Yum. I still miss my Moto
    G7 but I need the power of the Galaxy S20.


    background to Phones need to be as powerful as PCs now just to keep up with the user as they are now the all-in-one computing device that
    pretty much ticks all the boxes. I used to be on my computer a lot back
    in the mid-2000s browing the internet but now I don't even have a
    computer because my phone is able to handle everything I throw at it.

    I could not go that far. I can not imagine my world without a PC.
    Nothing can compare to a big old screen, comfortable keyboard and
    precise mouse movements. My son and I joke that we don't like
    smartphones with their stupid touch screens . . . only because we
    sometimes touch the wrong part of the screen at the wrong time!
    hahahaha. :-)

    But, I have a lot more uses for my PCs, I just like the "computer in my
    pocket" aspect of a powerful smartphone, but it is not always my first
    go-to device, especially when at home. :-)

    ~Elf

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zouf on Sat Jun 5 15:55:00 2021
    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I find it hard to believe that the Galaxy Note 3 with a Snapdragon 800 could perform better than an iPhone 6 with an A8 when Apple was
    crushing all Samsung phones around that time. Although the A8 is technically the weaker chip, Apple benches far exceed Androids due to
    the efficency of iOS... this is true even today with the A14 destroying the Snapdragon 888 despite a lower TDP and fewer cores.

    The latest iOS makes the iPhone 6 drag some. I don't get that with my Note 3.

    You car analogy is no good in this instance... as technology improves, hardware demands increase.

    More like, as they keep rewriting systems, they begin to become more
    bloatware oriented trying to be the swiss army knife of all which requires
    more improved hardware for them to run on.


    It really isn't viable to be an 'average'
    smartphone user these days with a 5-6 year old phone. The people who
    cling onto old smartphones are traditional phone users who are only ocncerned with a light web-browsing, instant messaging, SMS and phone calls.

    In my case your list is even more above what I use one for... which is why
    I can easily live without one, and just finished almost 3 days doing just
    that. Intrusive messaging is of no value to me, and so is SMS. I know many people live on such things, and more. C'est la vie.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Zouf on Sat Jun 5 20:15:00 2021
    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    You car analogy is no good in this instance... as technology
    improves, hardware demands increase. It really isn't viable to be
    an 'average' smartphone user these days with a 5-6 year old
    phone. The people who cling onto old smartphones are traditional
    phone users who are only ocncerned with a light web-browsing,
    instant messaging, SMS and phone calls.

    You sound pretty clueless.

    Do you know what the word "average" means? In this particular use case,
    it pretty much means "most". I'd say *MOST* people who have a
    smartphone have one which is 5 years old. Yup. They're not "clinging"
    to anything, it simply meets their needs. Absolutely, MOST people only
    need light web-browsing, IM, SMS, and phone calls. Wake up, woke one.



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  • From STYLES@VERT/SLIPSTRM to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Jun 5 21:32:00 2021
    There is a great app for iOS called Infuse. Works great playing all different type of media files. Plays files locally or over your network.

    Scott

    On 2021-06-03 7:07 AM, POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to VK3JED:

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    @TZ: c1e0
    Vk3jed wrote to Zouf <=-

    I also prefer Apple phones for daily use. There are some things that I can only do on Android, but Apple has been better as the daily driver for me. Doesn't stop me having an Android kicking around for those corner cases. But all other things being equal, I'll reach for the Apple.

    I'm a cheapskate. A $130 Motorola G7 Power with a $70 512gb SD card acts
    as
    a media backup for me, and I have all of my movies, music and e-books available wherever I go.

    I'm tempted to replace the screen on a 64gb iPhone 6s I have in my drawer, but choosing which movies to bring with me, then converting them to mp4
    as
    needed to copy them over with iTunes turns me off of the idea of switching back.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Brian Rogers on Sat Jun 5 20:45:38 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to MRO on Sat Jun 05 2021 07:27 am

    Hey MRO;

    MRO wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    my samsung crt was the first and only monitor to catch fire. luckily i was there when it happened and i chucked it out my 2nd story window into my front yard.

    Wow! Sounds like someone at the factory had a bad solder joint or something! I bet the picture rocked before that though. Yes you're quite fortunate you were there at the time it happened. Was it under warrantee?

    ... Old archers never die, they just bow and quiver.

    i should have disposed of it sooner but i was young and didnt have much money. the picture would go out and return right away in the few days before the problem.

    i bought it from someone so there was no warranty and i didnt persue anything with samsung.
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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Sun Jun 6 11:54:54 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Arelor to Zouf on Sat Jun 05 2021 12:01 pm

    Maybe it is a geographical difference, but the average smartphone user in Sp instant messaging, phone calls and a couple of games at best. I rarely see computing intensive tasks at all, not because they lack powerful phones, but not something they do on smartphones at all.

    I was using my own observations and statistics which state that the average smartphone user is on their device for 3.5-4 hours per day. I don't know if you have many 20-30 year olds in your social circle or at your place of work; but in my experience, it's perfectly normal to see people go through some heavy phone usage on a daily basis -- and the younger you go, the heavier the usage.

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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Elf on Sun Jun 6 12:12:25 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Elf to ZOUF on Sat Jun 05 2021 11:39 am

    Maybe that is what happend to me last year. I was putting so much
    demand on my Moto G7 it just could not keep up. I switched to a Galaxy
    S20 + with 128GB space but . . . 12GB of RAM!! Yum. I still miss my Moto
    G7 but I need the power of the Galaxy S20.


    background to Phones need to be as powerful as PCs now just to keep up with the user as they are now the all-in-one computing device that pretty much ticks all the boxes. I used to be on my computer a lot back in the mid-2000s browing the internet but now I don't even have a computer because my phone is able to handle everything I throw at it.

    I could not go that far. I can not imagine my world without a PC.
    Nothing can compare to a big old screen, comfortable keyboard and
    precise mouse movements. My son and I joke that we don't like
    smartphones with their stupid touch screens . . . only because we
    sometimes touch the wrong part of the screen at the wrong time!
    hahahaha. :-)

    But, I have a lot more uses for my PCs, I just like the "computer in my pocket" aspect of a powerful smartphone, but it is not always my first
    go-to device, especially when at home. :-)

    The Moto G7 isn't exactly an old phone either... it's just a budget phone that's made for casual entry-level smartphone users. I just adore the 4G always connected aspect of smartphones now adays. I can watch any video anytime anywhere, or browse the internet as quickly as you could on a fully fledged PC or take amazing photographs which can out perform most DLSR cameras and then edit them on the fly. The iPhone 12 I have is such an amazing device that I don't think I will bother upgrading until late 2023. It's so powerful that I can't slow it down no matter what I throw at it.

    I can still see the appeal of a PC. I prefer to just chill on the couch or browse the net in bed or whatever rather than being seated in front of a static desktop computer. I am tempted to buy an M1 iMac in a few months though!

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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Brian Rogers on Sun Jun 6 12:25:19 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Sat Jun 05 2021 03:55 pm

    The latest iOS makes the iPhone 6 drag some. I don't get that with my Note 3

    You car analogy is no good in this instance... as technology improves, hardware demands increase.

    More like, as they keep rewriting systems, they begin to become more bloatware oriented trying to be the swiss army knife of all which requires more improved hardware for them to run on.


    It really isn't viable to be an 'average'
    smartphone user these days with a 5-6 year old phone. The people who cling onto old smartphones are traditional phone users who are only ocncerned with a light web-browsing, instant messaging, SMS and phone calls.

    In my case your list is even more above what I use one for... which is why
    I can easily live without one, and just finished almost 3 days doing just that. Intrusive messaging is of no value to me, and so is SMS. I know many people live on such things, and more. C'est la vie.


    Ahh... now I know what you're talking about. Apple have a tendency to support their smartphones for far longer than Androids. The downside to this is that sometimes the operating system can become too demanding for an older phone. I have seen many iPhone users asking for advice on how to roll-back to a previous update because their phone has been sapped of its performance. I can assure you though that for the first 3 years of it's life (2014-2017) the iPhone 6 would have outperformed your Note 3.

    The updates aren't exactly bloatware as there are no needless programmes that run in the background in iOS. The most demanding aspect of iOS updates appear to be the presentation as better animations are added to improve the user experience. There's also added functionality in terms of QoL updates if you're looking for integrated newsfeeds, etc...
    You are obviously not a smartphone user nevermind a casual smartphone user. Sounds like a flip-phone would be suitable for your needs.

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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gamgee on Sun Jun 6 12:38:56 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Gamgee to Zouf on Sat Jun 05 2021 08:15 pm

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    You car analogy is no good in this instance... as technology
    improves, hardware demands increase. It really isn't viable to be
    an 'average' smartphone user these days with a 5-6 year old
    phone. The people who cling onto old smartphones are traditional
    phone users who are only ocncerned with a light web-browsing,
    instant messaging, SMS and phone calls.

    You sound pretty clueless.

    Do you know what the word "average" means? In this particular use case,
    it pretty much means "most". I'd say *MOST* people who have a
    smartphone have one which is 5 years old. Yup. They're not "clinging"
    to anything, it simply meets their needs. Absolutely, MOST people only
    need light web-browsing, IM, SMS, and phone calls. Wake up, woke one.



    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

    Please research before making an ignorant reply. The 'average' smartphone user is on their device for 3.5-4 hours per day as backed by statistical evidence if you could be bothered doing a bit of research. Also, the average US replacement cycle for a smartphone is below 3 years.
    If you anre an old man with an old phone, that's fine... you are not the average user.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to MRO on Sun Jun 6 08:31:00 2021
    Hey MRO;

    MRO wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    i should have disposed of it sooner but i was young and didnt have much money. the picture would go out and return right away in the few days before the problem.

    i bought it from someone so there was no warranty and i didnt persue anything with samsung.

    If you purchased it used from an individual and not a store you have no idea what they may have spilled into it by accident or perhaps dropped it at one point moving their computer station around.

    I've had some good luck with Dell monitors... have a few of them kicking around. The one I'm usually on is a 23" that'll do full HD. If that's not enough I can flip on the HDMI port and view stuff on my Samsung 32" SmartTV.

    In any event, I wouldn't hold a grudge on Samsung for the issue. They've been giving Sony a run for the money in the video department if you read CU.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to ZOUF on Sun Jun 6 10:26:00 2021
    Quoting Zouf to Elf <=-

    I can still see the appeal of a PC. I prefer to just chill on the
    couch or browse the net in bed or whatever rather than being seated in front of a static desktop computer. I am tempted to buy an M1 iMac in a few months though!

    Yeah, I have taken a look at the new M1 iMacs few times now and each
    time I am blown away at the sharpness of the screen. It is so easy for
    my old eyes to see! :-) I used to be an iPhone/Mac user. I started with
    an iPod in 2004 and then bought a G5 iMac as my first ever Mac. I loved
    it. I loved that it used a RISC type processor. The graphic interface
    was always responsive and smooth. When they switched to Intel CPUs, it
    just wansn't as good, not as smooth 100% of the time. I'm glad they are
    back to a RISC type CPU with the M1. I would consider a Mac again for
    the M1 CPU and the incredible screen sharpness. But . . . Not right now.
    I have a great desktop PC and two laptops and a Samsung tablet with my
    Samsung phone. But who knows if I'll ever return to Apple. The thing
    that drove me away was my desire to customize how my interface looked -
    beyond just changing from dark to light and changing the wallpaper! LOL
    That is why I like Android for my mobile devices and Linux for my PCs.
    Extreme customization.

    Apple will always hold a special place in my heart though. My first ever computer as a kid was an Apple IIe and then I really enjoyed my Apple iPod/iPhone/Mac years from 2004 to 2015.

    ~Elf

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Zouf on Sun Jun 6 18:36:12 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Zouf to Arelor on Sun Jun 06 2021 11:54 am

    I was using my own observations and statistics which state that the average smartphone user is on their device for 3.5-4 hours per day. I don't know if you have many 20-30 year olds in your social circle or at your place of work; but in my experience, it's perfectly normal to see people go through some heavy phone usage on a daily basis -- and the younger you go, the heavier the usage.

    and it doesnt mean they arent socializing with friends. this is the way they do it now. i've seen it first hand.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Brian Rogers on Sun Jun 6 18:38:52 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to MRO on Sun Jun 06 2021 08:31 am

    i bought it from someone so there was no warranty and i didnt persue anything with samsung.

    If you purchased it used from an individual and not a store you have no idea what they may have spilled into it by accident or perhaps dropped it at one point moving their computer station around.


    you dont even know what happens to it at a big box store.
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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zouf on Sun Jun 6 19:49:00 2021
    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Ahh... now I know what you're talking about. Apple have a tendency to support their smartphones for far longer than Androids. The downside to this is that sometimes the operating system can become too demanding
    for an older phone. I have seen many iPhone users asking for advice on
    how to roll-back to a previous update because their phone has been
    sapped of its performance. I can assure you though that for the first 3 years of it's life (2014-2017) the iPhone 6 would have outperformed
    your Note 3.

    IMHO any technology should be forced to be supported for no less than 10 years. In this case ALL vendors are guilty of sub par support. Apple also IMHO has
    an extremely poor business model which I will not financially support and
    I also find them to be excessively overpriced... another thing I will not support. I have a LOT more flexibility to customize my Note droid.

    The updates aren't exactly bloatware as there are no needless
    programmes that run in the background in iOS. The most demanding aspect
    of iOS updates appear to be the presentation as better animations are added to improve the user experience.

    What?? Not bloatware? Why does anyone need to see a dance show just to load
    an app? I don't get this. Leave the animation for kids saturday mornings. Look at M$. Compare the size of a generic windows 2 install for example vs that of
    a Windows 10 install. In some cases 2 offered apps that 10 doesn't that were quite business friendly... and lacked the song and dance show to load. I
    enjoy a good movie or tv show, or some good music, or good company of friends. I don't WANT to be entertained by an app loading. I want it to function and function well.


    There's also added functionality
    in terms of QoL updates if you're looking for integrated newsfeeds,
    etc...

    I used to be in the media and got out when I saw how the politicians
    corrupted it. Newsfeeds are about as useful as used toilet tissue.

    You are obviously not a smartphone user nevermind a casual
    smartphone user. Sounds like a flip-phone would be suitable for your needs.

    I don't need my smartphone to breathe like I see some lemmings doing, nor will I be supportive of any company who's practices I don't believe in. When apple refused to cooperate with police a few years back on that terrorist in I think it was California, they took a stance that they support terrorism. You may
    wish to support terrorism via apple, I will not :)

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to All on Mon Jun 7 21:00:00 2021
    I got a Galaxy S20 FE and im kinda disappointed by it. I am likely to migrate to the next
    iphone when it comes out. The bluetooth fades out where it takes longer to pair it to your
    car compared to my note 9 or iphone 7 plus.
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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to MRO on Mon Jun 7 19:32:00 2021
    Hello MRO;

    MRO wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    you dont even know what happens to it at a big box store.

    No you don't, however if you purchased it from say a Best Buy and you had issues, I'm sure they'd have honored a warantee of some sort to insure that your issue is resolved. When you buy 2nd hand it's a bit like playing russian roulette... it's hit or miss.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Brian Rogers on Tue Jun 8 07:16:40 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to MRO on Mon Jun 07 2021 07:32 pm

    Hello MRO;

    MRO wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    you dont even know what happens to it at a big box store.

    No you don't, however if you purchased it from say a Best Buy and you had issues, I'm sure they'd have honored a warantee of some sort to insure that your issue is resolved. When you buy 2nd hand it's a bit like playing russian roulette... it's hit or miss.


    yeah that's kind of fucking obvious
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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tue Jun 8 08:02:00 2021
    Quoting Matthew Munson to All <=-

    I got a Galaxy S20 FE and im kinda disappointed by it. I am likely to migrate to the next iphone when it comes out. The bluetooth fades out where it takes longer to pair it to your car compared to my note 9 or iphone 7 plus. -!-

    I have an Android phone and even if I was the last one using the
    bluetooth car radio connection, my daughters iPhone (if she's in the car
    with me) grabs it before my Android - the iPhone seems very aggressive
    with bluetooth. :-)

    ~Elf

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to STYLES on Sun Jun 6 10:09:00 2021
    STYLES wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    There is a great app for iOS called Infuse. Works great playing all different type of media files. Plays files locally or over your
    network.

    VLC is a good one, I'm sure there's an IOS app as it's been ported
    everywhere else. It'll find DLNA sources and does more than I've needed for years.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sun Jun 6 10:26:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to Zouf <=-

    Maybe it is a geographical difference, but the average smartphone user
    in Spain seems to use it for instant messaging, phone calls and a
    couple of games at best. I rarely see smartphone users do computing intensive tasks at all, not because they lack powerful phones, but just because that is not something they do on smartphones at all.

    There was an article in Hackaday a couple of years back about building a dev/build lab out of free/cheap android phones. The specs are pretty impressive given the cost, and root it, throw a chrooted Linux on it and run VNC and you'd have a decent little *nix environment.

    You could do something now with Raspberry Pis, although the architecture difference might cause some problems. I've seen some interesting looking 3d- printed Pi racks and the homelab subreddit has some interesting Pi labs.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Elf on Sun Jun 6 10:32:00 2021
    Elf wrote to ZOUF <=-

    Quoting Zouf to Arelor <=-

    The average person is on his/her smart phone for over 4 hours per day
    -- that is heavy usage compared to a decade ago when it was
    considerably less than half that amount. If you are an average person,
    you will REQUIRE a decent smart phone which will allow you to carry out

    Maybe that is what happend to me last year. I was putting so much
    demand on my Moto G7 it just could not keep up. I switched to a Galaxy
    S20 + with 128GB space but . . . 12GB of RAM!! Yum. I still miss my
    Moto G7 but I need the power of the Galaxy S20.


    If you don't mind me asking, what are you running?

    I had a G6 power that was perfectly suited to what I did personally. Once I started using my phone for work in a BYOD environment I ended up maxxing out the internal storage on the phone(16GB storage/2GB RAM) and it had a hard
    time keeping up.

    I bought a G7 power with 32GB of storage, 3GB of RAM and it's doing well.
    I'd like to splurge on a BYOD phone with more of everything and give my
    phone to my son, but am waiting to see what the future holds for carriers.

    Xfinity mobile wants to match my AT&T VMNO cost, and offer a bundle discount of $40 for 4 phones. If I have decent Verizon coverage at home and they have
    a decent wi-fi calling plan I might do that.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Sun Jun 6 10:32:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Zouf <=-

    The latest iOS makes the iPhone 6 drag some. I don't get that with my
    Note 3.

    That's a shame. I keep thinking about going back to my old 6s, as it's the last iPhone with a headphone jack.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Elf on Mon Jun 7 07:35:00 2021
    Elf wrote to ZOUF <=-

    Apple will always hold a special place in my heart though. My first
    ever computer as a kid was an Apple IIe and then I really enjoyed my
    Apple iPod/iPhone/Mac years from 2004 to 2015.

    While most of my career in IT/Telecom/desktop support has been supporting Windows systems with a minority of Macs, I worked at one company where we
    were all Mac, that was interesting.

    This was back in 1992-1995, supporting Mac IIci and LC2/LC3 macs, then later Quadra 700s/950s. Our server room was all Mac as well, running file
    services on it and using an email service called QuickMail.

    I wish I'd kept up with Mac through the early 2000s; knowledgeable IT help with Mac skills were rare.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tue Jun 8 07:17:00 2021
    MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to All <=-

    I got a Galaxy S20 FE and im kinda disappointed by it. I am likely to migrate to the next iphone when it comes out. The bluetooth fades out where it takes longer to pair it to your car compared to my note 9 or iphone 7 plus.

    I'm not sure why one sub-par experience with one phone would tempt you to switch, and I'm not sure quality control is up to par.
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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Elf on Tue Jun 8 18:05:35 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Elf to ZOUF on Sun Jun 06 2021 10:26 am

    Yeah, I have taken a look at the new M1 iMacs few times now and each
    time I am blown away at the sharpness of the screen. It is so easy for
    my old eyes to see! :-) I used to be an iPhone/Mac user. I started with
    an iPod in 2004 and then bought a G5 iMac as my first ever Mac. I loved
    it. I loved that it used a RISC type processor. The graphic interface
    was always responsive and smooth. When they switched to Intel CPUs, it
    just wansn't as good, not as smooth 100% of the time. I'm glad they are
    back to a RISC type CPU with the M1. I would consider a Mac again for
    the M1 CPU and the incredible screen sharpness. But . . . Not right now.
    I have a great desktop PC and two laptops and a Samsung tablet with my Samsung phone. But who knows if I'll ever return to Apple. The thing
    that drove me away was my desire to customize how my interface looked - beyond just changing from dark to light and changing the wallpaper! LOL
    That is why I like Android for my mobile devices and Linux for my PCs. Extreme customization.

    Apple will always hold a special place in my heart though. My first ever computer as a kid was an Apple IIe and then I really enjoyed my Apple iPod/iPhone/Mac years from 2004 to 2015.

    I am a more recent Apple user... my first ever Apple product was an iPhone 6S back in 2015. I used to despise Macs back in the 90's and 00's and always swore by Windows PCs. I always saw them as overpriced, underpowered trash -- a sentiment which still has some merit to a certain extent. The phones are still the best in the world, performance wise, but their laptops and desktops are more for casual users compared to PC offerings. I am drawn to the M1 chip though as it shows a genuine leap in mobile technology.

    I do like the classic Apple offerings from the late 70's, 80's and early 90's from a collector's standpoint. The Apple II computers are just incredible. I love the timeless appearance of them. I saw a YouTube video from Action Retro recently which had him bring his Apple IIe on the internet using a text only browser. I am pretty amazed that these old classics can still be used to this day.

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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Brian Rogers on Tue Jun 8 18:34:19 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Brian Rogers to Zouf on Sun Jun 06 2021 07:49 pm

    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Ahh... now I know what you're talking about. Apple have a tendency to support their smartphones for far longer than Androids. The downside to this is that sometimes the operating system can become too demanding for an older phone. I have seen many iPhone users asking for advice on how to roll-back to a previous update because their phone has been sapped of its performance. I can assure you though that for the first 3 years of it's life (2014-2017) the iPhone 6 would have outperformed your Note 3.

    IMHO any technology should be forced to be supported for no less than 10 yea In this case ALL vendors are guilty of sub par support. Apple also IMHO has an extremely poor business model which I will not financially support and
    I also find them to be excessively overpriced... another thing I will not support. I have a LOT more flexibility to customize my Note droid.

    The updates aren't exactly bloatware as there are no needless programmes that run in the background in iOS. The most demanding aspect of iOS updates appear to be the presentation as better animations are added to improve the user experience.

    What?? Not bloatware? Why does anyone need to see a dance show just to load an app? I don't get this. Leave the animation for kids saturday mornings. Lo at M$. Compare the size of a generic windows 2 install for example vs that o a Windows 10 install. In some cases 2 offered apps that 10 doesn't that were quite business friendly... and lacked the song and dance show to load. I enjoy a good movie or tv show, or some good music, or good company of friend I don't WANT to be entertained by an app loading. I want it to function and function well.


    There's also added functionality
    in terms of QoL updates if you're looking for integrated newsfeeds, etc...

    I used to be in the media and got out when I saw how the politicians corrupted it. Newsfeeds are about as useful as used toilet tissue.

    You are obviously not a smartphone user nevermind a casual
    smartphone user. Sounds like a flip-phone would be suitable for your needs.

    I don't need my smartphone to breathe like I see some lemmings doing, nor wi I be supportive of any company who's practices I don't believe in. When appl refused to cooperate with police a few years back on that terrorist in I thi it was California, they took a stance that they support terrorism. You may wish to support terrorism via apple, I will not :)

    ... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminate

    I can't disagree with much of what you've said. I think I am more pragmatic and accepting of what's happening. We are becoming more dependant on technology in pretty much every facet of life and I do worry about the younger generation who are growing up with all these gadgets. One of the founders of Facebook even admitted that social media causes more suffering that it solves which resulted in him banning his own children from using it.

    I also concur that technology should be supported for a longer period of time. 10 years is probably a little big excessive as most phones and computers only have a realistic average lifespan of around 5 years.

    The user experience is really pushing the drive for better hardware. Even my advanced iPhone 12, which is more powerful than the majority of PCs, is fundamentally the SAME phone as something like the iPhone 4S from 2011. Other than the QoL benefits such as faster loading times, an OLED panel, no bezels, beter sound quality, smooth UI animations and a better camera -- it doesn't actally do ANYTHING an iPhone from 10 years ago couldn't do. The same can be said for PCs though. Windows 10 may be flashy and resource heavy, but what can it do that XP couldn't? Technology is all about better graphics and user experience now than actually improving productivity.

    Also, I am well aware that Apple are a scummy company. I just like their products.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 8 18:18:00 2021
    hey poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    That's a shame. I keep thinking about going back to my old 6s, as it's
    the last iPhone with a headphone jack.

    You could always get a nice set of beats studio cans or similar :)

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zouf on Tue Jun 8 18:34:00 2021
    Hello Zouf;

    Zouf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I can't disagree with much of what you've said. I think I am more pragmatic and accepting of what's happening. We are becoming more dependant on technology in pretty much every facet of life and I do
    worry about the younger generation who are growing up with all these gadgets. One of the founders of Facebook even admitted that social
    media causes more suffering that it solves which resulted in him
    banning his own children from using it.

    "We" don't have to accept it, that's the real issue here. Politicians have turned us all into mere lemmings... and those who are about to be rich are those who've invested in Vaseline <G> Big or small, thick or thin, vaseline will get ya in! How long do you think deFacingBook would be in existance if folks stopped using it? Not long - the click ad revenue loss would kill em combined with the lack of YOUR data to sell around the globe.

    I also concur that technology should be supported for a longer period
    of time. 10 years is probably a little big excessive as most phones and computers only have a realistic average lifespan of around 5 years.

    10 years is good. Most hams I know are still running i386 systems with DOS
    5.0 and Windows 3.x. They have no use for the bells and whistles, they want something that's going to run their Qmodem on 1200 baud packet and run it efficiently. They don't want to see flying screens, news feeds, etc. Soon hardware will reach a plateu and it'll force developers to be more efficient rather than sloppy. That will be the tell-all... and in a real emergency
    those will be the guys to save your keister especially when the fibre backbone your ISPs run is cut and your wifi is dead.

    The user experience is really pushing the drive for better hardware.
    Even my advanced iPhone 12, which is more powerful than the majority of PCs, is fundamentally the SAME phone as something like the iPhone 4S
    from 2011. Other than the QoL benefits such as faster loading times, an OLED panel, no bezels, beter sound quality, smooth UI animations and a better camera -- it doesn't actally do ANYTHING an iPhone from 10 years ago couldn't do. The same can be said for PCs though. Windows 10 may be flashy and resource heavy, but what can it do that XP couldn't?
    Technology is all about better graphics and user experience now than actually improving productivity.

    If I want a better "user experience" I'll go to the local watering hole and find me a drunken lonely decent looking mid-30s woman and have an experience
    of a lifetime <G> Graphics... we're on a bbs - how 'HD' is ANSI going to get? I'm not against any change - don't get that wrong. I'm against ILLOGICAL change. As you mention about XP... there's nothing XP does that better that Workgroups 3.11 didn't do... except add eye candy when it wasn't necessary.

    Also, I am well aware that Apple are a scummy company. I just like
    their products.

    Q: How do you get a scummy company to shape up?
    A: you boycott their products. You'll see how fast they turn around once
    they see bruises in the wallet :)

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 8 18:45:00 2021
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Elf <=-

    While most of my career in IT/Telecom/desktop support has been
    supporting Windows systems with a minority of Macs, I worked at one company where we were all Mac, that was interesting.

    One of my clients at one point was the world's largest Apple DB host on the planet... then AWS with their customized cPanel linux took over and folks began to leave him for the less expensive AWS host w/MySQL. He's still all Apple which now he uses to host multiple VMs of linux on. The size of his
    units is amazing - about the size of a decent Wifi router.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Jun 9 22:51:00 2021
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Elf <=-

    If you don't mind me asking, what are you running?

    I had a G6 power that was perfectly suited to what I did personally.
    Once I started using my phone for work in a BYOD environment I ended
    up maxxing out the internal storage on the phone(16GB storage/2GB RAM) and it had a hard time keeping up.

    Yeah, it's not that I am running anything that requires that much, but
    that I just run a lot of apps at the same time and switch between them
    often. I don't like it when the app reloads because there was not enough
    RAM to just keep it in memory, so instead it basically takes a picture
    of where you were (so you can see that when you shuffle through "open"
    apps) and closes the app. When you switch back, it has to re-open the
    app and may or may not take you back to where you were in the app. With
    more RAM, the app is never closed and the switch back is immediate and
    exactly where you left off. I'm just impatient, but the G7 was a capable
    phone for the most part, though I did experience stuttering of music at
    times when it could not keep up with the demands I placed on it.


    ~Elf

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to ZOUF on Wed Jun 9 22:52:00 2021
    Quoting Zouf to Elf <=-

    I do like the classic Apple offerings from the late 70's, 80's and
    early 90's from a collector's standpoint. The Apple II computers are
    just incredible. I love the timeless appearance of them. I saw a
    YouTube video from Action Retro recently which had him bring his Apple
    IIe on the internet using a text only browser. I am pretty amazed that these old classics can still be used to this day.

    I saw that same video. I even put that link on my Windows 3.1 virtual
    machine - makes for great news reading when I play around with Win 3.1.
    :-)

    I wish I still had my Apple IIe but my parents or probably my younger
    brother, sold it while I was away at college. Turkey!

    ~Elf

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun Jun 20 17:39:00 2021
    I'm not sure why one sub-par experience with one phone would tempt you to switch, and I'm not sure quality control is up to par.
    That Samsung does a better job than Apple?

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Lightman on Sun Jun 27 11:35:00 2021
    On 5/27/2021 6:22 PM, Lightman wrote:

    flip-phone? I use the old motorola dynatac 8k (brain burner)... lol
    I don't, obviously, but I did see a few of those on ebay
    for like 2 grand US, in case someone wants to go retro...

    For what it's worth, a lot of those older phones won't work on current
    cell phone infrastructure in most places.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 28 12:13:42 2021
    Re: Re: Samsung
    By: Tracker1 to Lightman on Sun Jun 27 2021 11:35 am

    On 5/27/2021 6:22 PM, Lightman wrote:

    flip-phone? I use the old motorola dynatac 8k (brain burner)... lol
    I don't, obviously, but I did see a few of those on ebay
    for like 2 grand US, in case someone wants to go retro...

    For what it's worth, a lot of those older phones won't work on current
    cell phone infrastructure in most places.

    Actually, that is a big shadow which darkens my life. To know there are so many fine phones out there which will be rendered inoperative because their networks are mercinesly murdered by service providers. It is the equivalent of gadget genocide.

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