• The Recall (2017)

    From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to All on Wed Jun 2 14:15:33 2021
    Hello, BBSers!

    I am here yet another week to tell you about some other film you must never ever watch! If you missed me the week before, it is because I watched an actually good movie, by the way.

    The film I want to warn you about is The Recall. This movie belongs to the popular isolation horror genre - this is, a group of victims is isolated in a remote area, bad things start happening, and there is no way to get help. The genre has been overdone to death, but that is not bad in my opinion. No, the bad is something entirely different, I am not talking about the fake positive reviews the film is getting, no.

    The Recall deals with five friends who go on vacation to an isolate, remote cabin in the woods, just in time for an alien invasion to storm Earth. The only person in the woods who has a chance at helping them survive the alien invasion is Wesley Snipes. Well, the character has a name, but for all practical effects he is Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes happens to he a crazy survivalist / hunter gun nut who was abdubted by the aliens years ago and was shunned by society when he tried to warn them that they were coming back.

    If you look at the blurb above, you must think the movie has potential. This is the reason why this movie should be classified as Tragedy instead of Horror. The fact such a good premise was wasted is a **TRAGEDY** worth falling on your knees, crying to God, ripping your clothes to shreds.

    The funny thing is it is hard to point at a particular fact and say _this_ is what ruined the movie. I think there are several factors:

    The first one is the five friends are unrelatable at all. If you have been reading my reviews as of late, you must have realized by know this problem pops up a lot. I have been thingking about it, and I have realized the problem is that films of old pandered to a demographic whose idea of a main character was somebody strong and adventurous, while today's try to give us heroes whose biggest feat is looking cool and millenialish and feature an awesome haircut. I mean, the characters in this movie do absolutely nothing that makes them worthy of survival, so I was rooting for the aliens the whole movie. The main-main character is just a loser with no reedeming qualities at all.

    The only ok Character is Wesley Snipes, who happens to be the only actor in the film. Sadly, his does not get screen time enough to save the film.

    Also the plot was pretty much non existent, which would not be a problem if there was more action to it. However, the whole thing was very slow. The government was very realistic in this film, though, as all the government officers just sat on their fat asses as trouble ravished the world. At that, Mr. General With Lots of Stars was very good, looking at a screen while the world burned and thoing nothing. The script writer got this one right.

    In conclusion, if you ant a good Wesley Snipes movie, go watch Demolition man.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to All on Wed Jun 2 14:35:10 2021
    Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to All on Wed Jun 02 2021 02:15 pm

    Also, I want to add that The Recall reinforces my opinion that films made after 2016 are not worth the risk. Actors od the glorious old days such as Snipes are being relegated to junky B movies and it does not look like there are fitting replacements for them in super-productions.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ARELOR on Wed Jun 2 22:07:00 2021
    ARELOR wrote to ALL <=-

    I am here yet another week to tell you about some other film you must never ever watch! If you missed me the week before, it is because I watched an actually good movie, by the way.

    The film I want to warn you about is The Recall. This movie belongs to

    Where can I find it? Sounds interesting...

    In conclusion, if you ant a good Wesley Snipes movie, go watch
    Demolition man.

    Or Major League!




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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jun 3 19:34:13 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ARELOR on Wed Jun 02 2021 10:07 pm

    The film I want to warn you about is The Recall. This movie belongs to

    Where can I find it? Sounds interesting...


    You may find The Recall in the same place where the worst unwatchable rubbish is to be found: Amazon Prime.

    I swear honest to god I don't know why my father is paying for that.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Thu Jun 3 21:22:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    You may find The Recall in the same place where the worst
    unwatchable rubbish is to be found: Amazon Prime.

    Have to disagree here... I've found plenty of good stuff to watch on
    Amazon Prime. All the Star Trek series, for example. Another series I
    liked a lot was "Better Call Saul" which is a spinoff of "Breaking Bad". There's plenty of other things to watch on there as well.

    I think it's a great side benefit of Amazon Prime, which is worth the
    cost just for the free 2-day shipping on nearly everything.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Jun 6 19:08:21 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jun 03 2021 07:34 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ARELOR on Wed Jun 02 2021 10:07 pm

    The film I want to warn you about is The Recall. This movie belongs to

    Where can I find it? Sounds interesting...


    You may find The Recall in the same place where the worst unwatchable rubbish is to be found: Amazon Prime.

    I swear honest to god I don't know why my father is paying for that.


    wesley snipes is in it. it cant be bad

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Mon Jun 7 02:53:22 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Jun 06 2021 07:08 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jun 03 2021 07:34 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ARELOR on Wed Jun 02 2021 10:07 pm

    The film I want to warn you about is The Recall. This movie belongs to

    Where can I find it? Sounds interesting...


    You may find The Recall in the same place where the worst unwatchable rubbish is to be found:
    Amazon Prime.

    I swear honest to god I don't know why my father is paying for that.


    wesley snipes is in it. it cant be bad


    Actually, Wesley Snipes is about the only good thing in it, but as cool as he is, I don't think he
    manages to save the wreck.

    This film made me think of Nicholas Cage, who was once big, and then got sucked into making lame
    movies non stop since... maybe 2015?

    Every actor who does not retire on time reaches a point in which he is not trendy anymore and
    stops receiving offers for good movies. I hope it is not the case with Snipes, but that is
    certainly what I thought after watching this film.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Mon Jun 7 04:17:58 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Jun 07 2021 02:53 am

    wesley snipes is in it. it cant be bad


    Actually, Wesley Snipes is about the only good thing in it, but as cool as he is, I don't think he manages to save the wreck.


    does he deliver the one liners? "always bet on BLACK"

    This film made me think of Nicholas Cage, who was once big, and then got sucked into making lame movies non stop since... maybe 2015?


    nick cage has always made shitty movies. he's in it for the paycheck. he's the breed of actors that will do your birthday party for the right price.
    lance hendrikson, ron perlman and those other nameless jobbers.

    Every actor who does not retire on time reaches a point in which he is not trendy anymore and
    stops receiving offers for good movies. I hope it is not the case with Snipes, but that is certainly what I thought after watching this film.


    he was locked up for a while because of tax evasion. he also had some drug problems and clashes with people on that last blade movie.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Mon Jun 7 05:49:53 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Jun 07 2021 04:17 am

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Jun 07 2021 02:53 am

    wesley snipes is in it. it cant be bad


    Actually, Wesley Snipes is about the only good thing in it, but as cool a he is, I don't think he manages to save the wreck.


    does he deliver the one liners? "always bet on BLACK"

    This film made me think of Nicholas Cage, who was once big, and then got sucked into making lame movies non stop since... maybe 2015?


    nick cage has always made shitty movies. he's in it for the paycheck. he's t breed of actors that will do your birthday party for the right price.
    lance hendrikson, ron perlman and those other nameless jobbers.

    Every actor who does not retire on time reaches a point in which he is no trendy anymore and
    stops receiving offers for good movies. I hope it is not the case with Snipes, but that is certainly what I thought after watching this film.


    he was locked up for a while because of tax evasion. he also had some drug problems and clashes with people on that last blade movie.


    Is not that Snipes' role is stellar in The Recall. However, you can tell he is the only actor in the film. Each time he shows up he steals the scene, and he is notdoing much other than looking creepy and playing some exposition every now and then.

    Nicholas Cage you may like or dislike, but back in the day they offered him a place in good movies (The Rock comes to mind) and now they don't.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Mon Jun 7 13:13:37 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Jun 07 2021 05:49 am

    and he is notdoing much other than looking creepy and playing some exposition every now and then.

    Nicholas Cage you may like or dislike, but back in the day they offered him a place in good movies (The Rock comes to mind) and now they don't.

    well fairly recently he was in some good movies. they came out late so he didnt get a useless award for it.

    the dude is a worker. he can do 6-7 projects a year. that's impressive.

    maybe he's just having fun.

    another thing is are there REALLY any good movies anymore? I havent seen a good movie in years.

    he has enough money, he can liquidate his assets if he needs to and make even more money.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Mon Jun 7 13:53:30 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Jun 07 2021 01:13 pm

    another thing is are there REALLY any good movies anymore? I havent seen a g movie in years.


    Ok, that is a fair point. I would not say I haven't watched a good film in years, but that is because I cheat and watch old movies.

    I think they make something nice from time to time, but nowadays it is a slow drip rather than the ruthless river of nice material it used to be.

    On the other hand, I would expect studies to attempt to hire big name actors for the *supposedly* good productions.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Mon Jun 7 22:22:21 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Jun 07 2021 01:53 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Jun 07 2021 01:13 pm

    another thing is are there REALLY any good movies anymore? I havent

    seen
    a g movie in years.


    Ok, that is a fair point. I would not say I haven't watched a good


    film in
    years, but that is because I cheat and watch old movies.

    well i liked thor ragnarok. i dont consider those marvel movies 'real' movies. those are just entertainment. i like movies that surprise me and have
    interesting twists.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Tue Jun 8 03:51:02 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Jun 07 2021 10:22 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Jun 07 2021 01:53 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Jun 07 2021 01:13 pm

    another thing is are there REALLY any good movies anymore? I havent

    seen
    a g movie in years.


    Ok, that is a fair point. I would not say I haven't watched a good


    film in
    years, but that is because I cheat and watch old movies.

    well i liked thor ragnarok. i dont consider those marvel movies 'real' movie those are just entertainment. i like movies that surprise me and have interesting twists.



    I have a Love/Hate relationship with the Thor movies.

    Thor is my favorite comic character from Marvel. Thor was one of the few comic series from Marvel that dared running long plot arcs with subplots. A background event in one number would surface half a year later in the main story line and turn out to have big repercussions. Most other series ran self-contained stories which spanned a single number, or short series at best.

    And heck, Thor is a Real Man bahsing face with a big hammer for honor and glory. It is very Heavy Metal. Only Don Quijote is more Metal than that.

    But the movies... they were ok at best imo. I have the feeling that the first one was fine, but it left a taste of wasted oportunity in my mouth. I liked the second, but the chemistry between Thor and Jane was not there. I think only Loki saved that movie. Thor Ragnarok was good fun but it didn't feel like a Thor movie at all. Half the jokes didn't fit a Thor movie, I hated the Thor-turned-Captain-Kirk concept, and fhe plot was a Planet Hulk travesti. That said, you never got bored with that one, since there was always something happening, so there is no way you can write it off as a failure.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Tue Jun 8 07:20:49 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Tue Jun 08 2021 03:51 am

    liked the second, but the chemistry between Thor and Jane was not there. I think only Loki saved that movie. Thor Ragnarok was good fun but it didn't feel like a Thor movie at all. Half the jokes didn't fit a Thor movie, I hated the Thor-turned-Captain-Kirk concept, and fhe plot was a Planet Hulk travesti. That said, you never got bored with that one, since there was always something happening, so there is no way you can write it off as a failure.

    thor and spider man are 2 characters that they are trying hard to put on the silver screen but cant pull it off. i thought thor ragnarok was great, i love taka's humor. i dont know what you mean by captain kirk. he was riding with the guardians in their ship for a little while.

    regarding the planet hulk thing, it's hard to put comic books onto film. especially with all these characters. there's not enough time and these movies are long enough as it is. i wish they'd get them back down to 1.5 hrs. the few times i did see them in the theaters i'd doze off in the middle.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Wed Jun 9 19:22:37 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Jun 08 2021 07:20 am

    movies are long enough as it is. i wish they'd get them back down to 1.5 hrs. the few times i did see them in the theaters i'd doze off in the middle.

    Everytime I see you talking about the theatre, it always ends up with you falling asleep.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Wed Jun 9 16:32:50 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Jun 08 2021 07:20 am

    thor and spider man are 2 characters that they are trying hard to put on the silver screen but cant pull it off. i thought thor ragnarok was great, i l taka's humor. i dont know what you mean by captain kirk. he was riding wi the guardians in their ship for a little while.


    What I mean about Captain Kirk is they changed the Thor character to fit the role of a sci-fi leader who blasts his enemies with ray-guns and leads spaceship crews (which include aliens). They even changed his look in order to make him less Viking and more sci-fi - crew haircut anyone?

    Which is not bad, mind you. It just does not make the movie qualify as a Thor movie.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Wed Jun 9 16:34:27 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jun 09 2021 07:22 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Jun 08 2021 07:20 am

    movies are long enough as it is. i wish they'd get them back down to 1.5 hrs. the few times i did see them in the theaters i'd doze off in the middle.

    Everytime I see you talking about the theatre, it always ends up with you falling asleep.


    It must be because so many modern movies are boring as heck and put you to sleep harder than a box of melatonin.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Wed Jun 9 21:24:35 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jun 09 2021 07:22 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Jun 08 2021 07:20 am

    movies are long enough as it is. i wish they'd get them back down to 1.5 hrs. the few times i did see them in the theaters i'd doze off in the middle.

    Everytime I see you talking about the theatre, it always ends up with you falling asleep.

    yeah i'm either complaining about the prices, the stinky people or sleeping

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wed Jun 9 21:28:53 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to MRO on Wed Jun 09 2021 04:32 pm

    What I mean about Captain Kirk is they changed the Thor character to fit the role of a sci-fi leader who blasts his enemies with ray-guns and leads spaceship crews (which include aliens). They even changed his look in order to make him less Viking and more sci-fi - crew haircut anyone?

    i don't remember him shooting ray guns. maybe once when getting off the planet.
    Thor IS an alien, btw. I liked his ragnarak look. much better than the wig and bleached eyebrows.


    Which is not bad, mind you. It just does not make the movie qualify as a Thor movie.


    it's got thor so it's a thor movie. it's the best thor movie they had.
    the other ones stunk.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Sat Jun 12 02:26:30 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Jun 09 2021 04:34 pm

    movies are long enough as it is. i wish they'd get them back down to 1.5 hrs. the few times i did see them in the theaters i'd doze off in the middle.

    Everytime I see you talking about the theatre, it always ends up with you falling asleep.


    It must be because so many modern movies are boring as heck and put you to sleep harder than a box of melatonin.

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    I don't disagree however I no longer go to the pictures unless there's something I REALLY want to see. No way would I pay that kind of money just to catch some z's.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Sat Jun 12 20:06:05 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to Arelor on Sat Jun 12 2021 02:26 am

    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

    I don't disagree however I no longer go to the pictures unless there's something I REALLY want to see. No way would I pay that kind of money just to catch some z's.

    you must be single. when you're with someone you have to do shit you dont want to do all the time.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Sun Jun 13 12:24:03 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Jun 12 2021 08:06 pm

    you must be single. when you're with someone you have to do shit you dont want to do all the time.

    I fall asleep whenever we are at home and she's watching her crappy soap operas but because the pictures are so damn expensive, we usually agree on something to watch which I make a point to remain conscious for.

    I agree that there's an ongoing trend for movies to be stupidly long though... it was preferable when they left a lot of the unrequired exposition on the cutting room floor -- nowadays directors are arrogant to the point they believe their "art" too important and special to be streamlined and condensed.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Jun 13 09:27:00 2021
    I don't disagree however I no longer go to the pictures unless there's something I REALLY want to see. No way would I pay that kind of money just to catch some z's.

    you must be single. when you're with someone you have to do shit you dont wan
    to do all the time.

    Indeed you do.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Sun Jun 13 18:11:02 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Jun 13 2021 12:24 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Jun 12 2021 08:06 pm

    you must be single. when you're with someone you have to do shit you don want to do all the time.

    I fall asleep whenever we are at home and she's watching her crappy soap ope but because the pictures are so damn expensive, we usually agree on somethin to watch which I make a point to remain conscious for.

    I agree that there's an ongoing trend for movies to be stupidly long though. it was preferable when they left a lot of the unrequired exposition on the cutting room floor -- nowadays directors are arrogant to the point they beli their "art" too important and special to be streamlined and condensed.


    Hey, keep in mind that in the Good Old Days, the film itself (the roll on which the movie was recorded) was crazy expensive, so they had a reason to make films short.

    Since they did not recognize that films had a comercial life after being projected at the theatre, they _recycled_ the film after it had its run. This is the reason why many films of old are lost. They were recycled.

    I don't have a problem with lengths myself, as long as they manage to make it entertaining. Also, some concepts are hard to cover in extremely short timespans.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Sun Jun 13 18:47:23 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Jun 13 2021 12:24 pm


    I agree that there's an ongoing trend for movies to be stupidly long though... it was preferable when they left a lot of the unrequired exposition on the cutting room floor -- nowadays directors are arrogant to the point they believe their "art" too important and special to be streamlined and condensed.

    with some movies there are 3 endings. i think its over then they visit another ending. i'm like 'cmon maaaan! wrap it up

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 13 18:51:53 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Jun 13 2021 09:27 am

    I don't disagree however I no longer go to the pictures unless there's something I REALLY want to see. No way would I pay that kind of money just to catch some z's.

    you must be single. when you're with someone you have to do shit you dont wan
    to do all the time.

    Indeed you do.


    i had that crazy liberal girlfriend and she wanted me to take her to buffalo wild wings so she could get drunk from the bloody marys. they cut her off each time. anyways, i already ate so i just had a soda i didnt touch.

    she said i should pay her 50+ dollar BWW bill that her and her daughter racked up, and people she works with said the same. i said we arent fucking dating. we split the bill.

    Then she wanted me to move out, and then i realized how much money i had and how much freedom i had. she was crying when i was moving out. now she's alone and looking for dick on those dating sites. hope she gets aids.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Jun 13 18:54:58 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Sun Jun 13 2021 06:11 pm

    Since they did not recognize that films had a comercial life after being projected at the theatre, they _recycled_ the film after it had its run. This is the reason why many films of old are lost. They were recycled.


    there's also decay and studios disposed of them because they took up a lot of space.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Jun 14 17:01:00 2021
    you must be single. when you're with someone you have to do shit you don
    wan
    to do all the time.

    Indeed you do.


    i had that crazy liberal girlfriend and she wanted me to take her to buffalo w
    d wings so she could get drunk from the bloody marys. they cut her off each ti
    . anyways, i already ate so i just had a soda i didnt touch.

    So far I have been lucky in that I have never dated anyone who was a heavy drinker. The problem in my area is that a lot of the single women are
    either heavy drinkers, are on drugs, or they are the type who will stand in judgement of anyone who is not as perfect as them (and I know I won't be so
    I don't bother!).

    So I get to enjoy a lot of freedom!


    * SLMR 2.1a * Yea, I'm a pacifist. Wanna make somethin' of it, bub?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Jun 15 03:02:40 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jun 14 2021 05:01 pm


    So far I have been lucky in that I have never dated anyone who was a heavy drinker. The problem in my area is that a lot of the single women are either heavy drinkers, are on drugs, or they are the type who will stand in judgement of anyone who is not as perfect as them (and I know I won't be so I don't bother!).


    there are a lot of people out there on something and they know how to hide it. they are functional up to a point.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Fri Jun 18 12:21:06 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Sun Jun 13 2021 06:11 pm

    Hey, keep in mind that in the Good Old Days, the film itself (the roll on which the movie was recorded) was crazy expensive, so they had a reason to make films short.

    Since they did not recognize that films had a comercial life after being projected at the theatre, they _recycled_ the film after it had its run. This is the reason why many films of old are lost. They were recycled.

    I don't have a problem with lengths myself, as long as they manage to make it entertaining. Also, some concepts are hard to cover in extremely short timespans.


    I agree. There are some long films that are entertaining throughout. I think the more recent trend of long, drawn out movies that are long and drawn out for the sake of it is more along the lines of what MRO was talking about. If the script requires more than 90 minutes, so be it... if it can be condensed then it should be.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Fri Jun 18 15:05:43 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to Arelor on Fri Jun 18 2021 12:21 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Sun Jun 13 2021 06:11 pm

    Hey, keep in mind that in the Good Old Days, the film itself (the roll on which the movie was
    recorded) was crazy expensive, so they had a reason to make films short.

    Since they did not recognize that films had a comercial life after being projected at the
    theatre, they _recycled_ the film after it had its run. This is the reason why many films of
    are lost. They were recycled.

    I don't have a problem with lengths myself, as long as they manage to make it entertaining.
    Also, some concepts are hard to cover in extremely short timespans.


    I agree. There are some long films that are entertaining throughout. I think the more recent tre
    of long, drawn out movies that are long and drawn out for the sake of it is more along the lines
    what MRO was talking about. If the script requires more than 90 minutes, so be it... if it can b
    condensed then it should be.


    Agreed.

    However, I must mention that there is something that bothers me more than overlong films.

    Overdrawn film series.

    Specially when they take a book trilogy and turn it into 4 films, which is something they do quite
    frequently and for (imo) no other reason than extracting more money from people. This is the reason
    I didn't watch the last two Harry Potter movies. The book from which they were derived was
    overdrawn itself and didn't have material for a long movie, much less for two. It was bound to be a
    scam.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Sun Jun 20 17:29:43 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Fri Jun 18 2021 03:05 pm

    Agreed.

    However, I must mention that there is something that bothers me more than overlong films.

    Overdrawn film series.

    Specially when they take a book trilogy and turn it into 4 films, which is something they do quite
    frequently and for (imo) no other reason than extracting more money from people. This is the reason
    I didn't watch the last two Harry Potter movies. The book from which they were derived was
    overdrawn itself and didn't have material for a long movie, much less for two. It was bound to be a
    scam.

    I don't disagree. I watched every Harry Potter movie up until the Deathly Hallows Pt.2 so I still have no real idea how it all ends, haha.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Sun Jun 20 17:55:11 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to Arelor on Sun Jun 20 2021 05:29 pm

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Fri Jun 18 2021 03:05 pm

    Agreed.

    However, I must mention that there is something that bothers me more than overlong films.

    Overdrawn film series.

    Specially when they take a book trilogy and turn it into 4 films, which i something they do quite
    frequently and for (imo) no other reason than extracting more money from people. This is the reason
    I didn't watch the last two Harry Potter movies. The book from which they were derived was
    overdrawn itself and didn't have material for a long movie, much less for two. It was bound to be a
    scam.

    I don't disagree. I watched every Harry Potter movie up until the Deathly Hallows Pt.2 so I still have no real idea how it all ends, haha.


    I don't know about the movie. The book I find to be a joke.

    Seriously. The whole series was a buildup for the final fight between Good and Evil, Harry vs Voldemort. When the time for the great confrontation came, it was solved in two lines with the tiniest excuse of a resolution.

    For comparison, imagine you are reading a scientific thriller in which they are trying to determine whether some artifact they found in an archeological excavation is of extraterrestrial origin or not. Imagine you read through 500 pages of rigorous scientific procedure, building up to a great revelation. Suddenly, in the very last page, one of the scientists opens the artifact and says "Look guys, this part has a label that reads 'Made in China'. We are done, let's go on vacation." You'd feel cheated.

    That is the Harry Potter series for me.

    It shoud have ended with a duel to the death between Harry and Voldemort. It should have had Hermione taking an Avada-Kedabra for Harry, it should have featured Harry and Voldemort throwing curses at each other, conjuring defenses, making walls explode under the power of relentless unleashed magic power! It should have ended with Voldemort strangling Harry with his own hands,
    and Harry defeating him by stabbing the dark lord in the neck with his wand.

    But no, oh no, Rowling had to steal such an ending from us and give us a counterfeit instead. And no, the Hogwards battle does not do it for me, sorry.

    I felt so cheated that I was inspired to change the ending of El Libro Negro (Spanish only) in order to show the world how an epic ending is supposed to be: a duel between the most powerful warrior known and the darkest of the forces in the known Universe, in a burning library that is falling appart and taking with it countless tomes and artifacts of corrupt magic, while mutant zombies swarm the place and the very fabric or reality is unraveled, creating a gateway to the Abyss from which the cruelests of creatures are pouring in. I don't want to sound like an arrogant bastard, but that is how you fucking do it!

    "Honor was the only thing that gave his life a meaning. Should he retreat, he would be denying his very existence, everything he had ever been and everything he had ever done. He would be just as dead as if a sword had pierced through his heart. It was much better to die in honor, as he had lived, than to die in shame.

    With a ripping warcry, Frzinfer charged forward, with his bloodied sword held high. The words he yelled had never been loaded with so much meaning.

    'For honor, and for glory!'" -- Translation from El Libro Negro, from the top of my head.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Tue Jun 22 23:53:19 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Sun Jun 20 2021 05:55 pm

    Seriously. The whole series was a buildup for the final fight between Good and Evil, Harry vs Voldemort. When the time for the great confrontation came, it was solved in two lines with the tiniest excuse of a resolution.

    For comparison, imagine you are reading a scientific thriller in which they are trying to determine whether some artifact they found in an archeological excavation is of extraterrestrial origin or not. Imagine you read through 500 pages of rigorous scientific procedure, building up to a great revelation. Suddenly, in the very last page, one of the scientists opens the artifact and says "Look guys, this part has a label that reads 'Made in China'. We are done, let's go on vacation." You'd feel cheated.

    That is the Harry Potter series for me.

    Now I don't feel so bad for missing out on the final movie!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Wed Jun 23 09:18:14 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to Arelor on Tue Jun 22 2021 11:53 pm

    that reads 'Made in China'. We are done, let's go on vacation." You'd feel cheated.

    That is the Harry Potter series for me.

    Now I don't feel so bad for missing out on the final movie!


    the final movie was good

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Sat Jun 26 01:00:47 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Wed Jun 23 2021 09:18 am

    the final movie was good

    I'll get back to it eventually. I watched all the Harry Potter movies with an old ex between 2007-2011... we just had the last one to see but we broke up.

    I ended up forgetting everything as I never bothered with the novels and had only ever watched the movies. I watched 1-4 with another ex in 2015/16 however we also never made it to the end. Oh well, I am destined to never know what happens. I don't really want to try it all again with my current partner... seems like a bad omen for me.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Sat Jun 26 04:26:14 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sat Jun 26 2021 01:00 am

    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Wed Jun 23 2021 09:18 am

    the final movie was good

    I'll get back to it eventually. I watched all the Harry Potter movies with a old ex between 2007-2011... we just had the last one to see but we broke up.

    I ended up forgetting everything as I never bothered with the novels and had only ever watched the movies. I watched 1-4 with another ex in 2015/16 howev we also never made it to the end. Oh well, I am destined to never know what happens. I don't really want to try it all again with my current partner... seems like a bad omen for me.


    What happens is the good boys win and the bad guys don't.

    Beware the epilogue. It is so cheesy and has so much sugar that you are bound to get diabetes if you are exposed to it.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Sun Jun 27 11:30:40 2021
    On 6/7/2021 12:53 AM, Arelor wrote:

    This film made me think of Nicholas Cage, who was once big, and then got sucked into making lame
    movies non stop since... maybe 2015?

    I think that's as much a result of his tax audit as anything iirc. (cash
    grab to pay off the irs)
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sun Jun 27 21:38:46 2021
    Re: Re: The Recall (2017)
    By: Tracker1 to Arelor on Sun Jun 27 2021 11:30 am

    On 6/7/2021 12:53 AM, Arelor wrote:

    This film made me think of Nicholas Cage, who was once big, and then got sucked into making lame
    movies non stop since... maybe 2015?

    I think that's as much a result of his tax audit as anything iirc. (cash grab to pay off the irs)
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    that amount he owed the irs was nothing compared to how much he was spending on castles, pets, cars, houses.

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