• state of movies

    From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to All on Fri Aug 6 13:58:04 2021
    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    Another Fast and Furious? Boooooooooooring.
    Another superhero film? Seriously.... cmon.
    How aboutan awesome adventure movie? Harrison Ford is getting too old.

    And anything that seems out of the ordinary from the typical movie is probably made by netflix and has some underlying political theme regarding racism, transphobia, or right-wing hate.

    Why can't we just have another cool WAR GAMES or EXPLORERS or LAST STARFIGHTER or hell, LAST DRAGON... Not a remake, not a reboot, something new and different.

    I had high hopes for Ready Player One because the book was decent but nope. I think Sandler's Pixels was more fun.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Zombie Mambo on Fri Aug 6 15:49:03 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    Another Fast and Furious? Boooooooooooring.
    Another superhero film? Seriously.... cmon.
    How aboutan awesome adventure movie? Harrison Ford is getting too old.

    Why can't we just have another cool WAR GAMES or EXPLORERS or LAST STARFIGHTER or hell, LAST DRAGON... Not a remake, not a reboot, something new and different.

    There are a lot of 80s movies that I like. Movies these days do seem different. I've been getting tired of all the superhero movies in particular.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 7 04:47:15 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    Another Fast and Furious? Boooooooooooring.
    Another superhero film? Seriously.... cmon.
    How aboutan awesome adventure movie? Harrison Ford is getting too old.

    And anything that seems out of the ordinary from the typical movie is probab made by netflix and has some underlying political theme regarding racism, transphobia, or right-wing hate.

    Why can't we just have another cool WAR GAMES or EXPLORERS or LAST STARFIGHT or hell, LAST DRAGON... Not a remake, not a reboot, something new and different.

    I had high hopes for Ready Player One because the book was decent but nope. think Sandler's Pixels was more fun.


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo


    My rule of thumb is that if a movie was released after 2016, it is probably junk. There are a bunch of exceptions, but you can count them with the fingers of a horse (a horse has a finger in each hoof).

    Entertainment is a devaluated asset nowadays because there are so many producers, streaming platforms, and they have to compete with old content that is just not going away. People is not willing to pay as much as they used to to watch a movie or listen to music. Therefore, producers cannot invest much money making a quality product and need to produce multiple cheap products to make a quick buck and keep up with competitors.

    It is the same with books. When I was with Route 11 Publications, their idea of a successful author was one who produced many books per year which sold for cheap, even if they were made of recycled ideas. If you produce a single good book in two years, it will be drowned in a sea of junk books on novel listings and nobody will find it. Your only option is to pump out your own junk faster than everybody else.

    The exceptions are products made by people who is willing to throw a lot of money in the pot. Those can risk it because they know they can ensure people will know their movie exists via advertisement alone. But then you hit another issue of our days, which is that when you throw billions of dollar behind a project, you want to minimize risks. The best way of minimizing risks is to bind your product to something of recognized value that the audience will recognize.

    And this is why you get three thousand Fast and Furious and Marvel movies. Because they minimize risks. You attach your movie to a franchise that is recognizeable and ensure a minimum of recognition from the audience.

    At least, Fast and Furious movies are honest. They promise you fast cars, impossible stunts and just enough plot to sustain it, and they deliver. I am not a fan of the formula, but I respect that.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 7 04:53:26 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    By the way, I watched John Wick recently, and it reminded me of what has been lost.

    The film is hardly revolutionary. It plays like a common action movie from the 90s, actually. However, the action scenes were _properly shot_, which is something almost nobody is doing anymore. These days, if a director wants to shot an action scene, they give the camera to a monkey who suffers Parkinson, so the audience gets to see not a thing of what is going on.

    This is extremely sad, because when you compare modern Holywood action scenes with, say, action scenes from certain Thai directors, the Thai ones are _better shot_ despite the fact their movies have a 5 dollar budget.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 7 09:00:00 2021
    Hello Zombie;

    Zombie Mambo wrote to All <=-

    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    It's not just movies... look at some of the stuff on TV! Reboots of old shows... seriously? They're changing the characters too off base too.

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  • From hollowone@VERT/CAPSHRIL to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 7 21:42:00 2021
    Zombie Mambo wrote to All <=-

    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    Same feeling here. I returned to 80ties and 90ties to entertain myself.
    Another Marvel movie is like Brazilian telenovel to me these days.
    I miss some originality and risk taken.

    Same is with games. Far Cry 6, Assassin Creed (can't recall the number), Reboot of Mass Effect, new Dragon Age... bleh..

    IN gaming at least indie games and revival of retro tech based games is the place where youngsters innovate and corporate fat pigs can't bow down enough.

    I think we deserve similar thing in movies.

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  • From hollowone@VERT/CAPSHRIL to Arelor on Sat Aug 7 21:45:00 2021
    This is extremely sad, because when you compare modern Holywood action scenes with, say, action scenes from certain Thai directors, the Thai
    ones are _better shot_ despite the fact their movies have a 5 dollar budget.

    Now you made me curious. I want a Thai action movie recommendation, right now!

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  • From Cobradile@VERT/CONCHAOS to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 7 16:21:13 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    I know what you mean. Hollywood feels so bland and corporate nowdays! You might have the occasional interesting film and here and
    there (I enjoyed the Sonic movie, for instance), but for the most part, it's just sequels and superhero films, most of which are by
    Disney, who are slowly absorbing the entire market and monopolising.

    That's why I turn to indie and films from other countries, because those still have some semblence of orginality and interesting
    storytelling. Seeing how Parasite won the Best Picture Oscar last year, I can't be alone.

    It's frustrating to me how Netflix is making the most original English-language films, because I love the experience of going to
    the cinema, and hate the idea of just streaming things, but it seems the latter is set to kill the former, and movie studios are
    partly to blame for churning out mediocre-at-best films.

    There is a cinema in the city I live in which pretty much exclusively shows old classics and foreign films, and my and my friends
    really enjoy going there now and again, but obviously we haven't been able to recently because of COVID-19...

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to hollowone on Sat Aug 7 19:16:04 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: hollowone to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:45 pm

    This is extremely sad, because when you compare modern Holywood action scenes with, say, action scenes from certain Thai directors, the Thai ones are _better shot_ despite the fact their movies have a 5 dollar budget.

    Now you made me curious. I want a Thai action movie recommendation, right no


    Two I can recommend from the top of my head are Ong-Bak and The Protector. Both star Tony Jaa.

    Expect no groundgreaking plots and no groundbreaking characters. The martial arts in them, however, are freaking amazing. After watching the making offs I realized the director is a freaking genious. That guy can shoot a chase scene in an alley 10 meters long and make it look like the chase ran through the whole city.

    The Protector in particular has some fight scenes that are taken in ONE FUCKING SHOT WORTH MANY MINUTES OF BEATING PEOPLE. Imagine a scene in which the hero enters a building from ground level and works his way to the top beating everybody in his way, while the camera follows the onslaught, and there is no single cut until the hero reaches the very top.

    I cannot honestly say these are great movies, but hell, they do a lot of things right that modern action films just don't.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Sat Aug 7 18:31:00 2021
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Saturday 07.08.21 - 04:53, Arelor wrote to Zombie Mambo:

    [...] These days, if a director wants to shot an action
    scene, they give the camera to a monkey who suffers
    Parkinson, so the audience gets to see not a thing of what
    is going on.

    LOL!

    I hate the jiggly hand-held camera technique that many serials
    and some movies entertain. As soon as I see scenes shot in
    hand-held manner with purposeful jiggly movement, I strike that
    film off the list.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Arelor on Sat Aug 7 18:51:03 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:47 am

    At least, Fast and Furious movies are honest. They promise you fast cars, impossible stunts and just enough plot to sustain it, and they deliver. I am not a fan of the formula, but I respect that.

    It's funny tho because I do fall for it for other formulas of the same type. For example, I love the Bourne Movies, The Transporter Movies... Partially because you know what you're going to get but also because some of it is based in somewhat reality. I do NOT however, like the Mission Impossible movies and that is odd because you would think it falls into that category I'd fall for.

    Very wierd and I am sure MILLIONS are spent trying to figure it out.
    I am hooked on all the old stallone movies, buddy movies, etc. from the 80s and the new ones just don't measure up.

    Why is it that for me, Fast and Furious doesn't work, but Bourne does and so do all th friday the 13th movies where like F&F, u go into it knowing what's going to happen?

    Interesting.

    You know what else is missing and not the same?
    Commercial Jingles.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Brian Rogers on Sat Aug 7 18:51:40 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:00 am

    Hello Zombie;

    Zombie Mambo wrote to All <=-

    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    It's not just movies... look at some of the stuff on TV! Reboots of old shows... seriously? They're changing the characters too off base too.

    ... Join the army, travel, meet interesting people, and kill them

    You got that right brother... i just saw an ad for a new Fantasy Island.
    cmon.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Arelor on Sat Aug 7 18:54:50 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:53 am

    By the way, I watched John Wick recently, and it reminded me of what has bee lost.


    I almost mentioned john wick in my recap in the other thread. I love those movies. Keanu is one of if not the worst actor of all time but I love him regardless...

    It just works. Like transporter.

    Point Break was good.
    tango and cash was excellent
    Big trouble in little china, how could you not like it.

    Any steven seagal movie made in the 80s and 90s up to and including Under Siege. Those are the things I enjoy.

    Original predator...

    I come in peace...

    Terminator I and II


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 03:55:58 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 06:51 pm

    It's funny tho because I do fall for it for other formulas of the same type. For example, I love the Bourne Movies, The Transporter Movies... Partially because you know what you're going to get but also because some of it is bas in somewhat reality. I do NOT however, like the Mission Impossible movies an that is odd because you would think it falls into that category I'd fall for


    Funny you mention the Bourne movies, because they seem less formulaic than other franchises you have mentioned by orders of magnitude. However, I have the feeling that every movie after the third should have been called "The Bourne Redundancy" because each film didn't add much to the Bourne universe IMO. The one about Outcome could have done but fell a bit short in my opinion.

    I like Mission Impossible films, with the exception of the second, which sucks sausages.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 03:59:19 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 06:54 pm

    Big trouble in little china, how could you not like it.

    I am going to totally destroy you with this, but here it comes:

    **They are making a sequel of Big Trouble in Little China starring The Rock**

    John Carpenter has already shunned the idea publicly, actually. He said that they didn care for the first movie at all, that they just wanted a film with The Rock and a recognizeable title in order to sell.

    Or something like that.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Aug 8 07:49:54 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:53 am

    By the way, I watched John Wick recently, and it reminded me of what has been lost.

    The film is hardly revolutionary. It plays like a common action movie from the 90s, actually. However, the action scenes were _properly shot_, which is something almost nobody is doing anymore. These days, if a director wants to shot an action scene, they give the camera to a monkey who suffers Parkinson, so the audience gets to see not a thing of what is going on.


    so basically hollywood stopped stealing from south korean cinema and went to superhero movies.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 08:05:25 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 06:54 pm

    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:53 am

    By the way, I watched John Wick recently, and it reminded me of what

    has
    bee lost.


    I almost mentioned john wick in my recap in the other thread. I love


    those
    movies. Keanu is one of if not the worst actor of all time but I love him regardless...

    It just works. Like transporter.

    i think keanu is a good actor, he just doesn't have an amazing range. he's no gene hackman, willem dafoe, ed norton, jack nicholson.

    he's like a clint eastwood, tom cruise, denzel washington, morgan freeman.

    he has stuff he's good at but he doesn't have an amazing gift for range, nor does he have the experience. it's probably due to his good looks. all he needed to do was look cute and brood. he didnt have to struggle.

    i love the guy, though.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Aug 8 08:09:01 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 03:59 am


    Big trouble in little china, how could you not like it.

    I am going to totally destroy you with this, but here it comes:

    **They are making a sequel of Big Trouble in Little China starring The Rock**

    John Carpenter has already shunned the idea publicly, actually. He said that

    it's not going to be a reboot, which is good.
    if they do it, it's got to have kurt russell do a cameo in it as jack.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 09:12:00 2021
    Hey Zombie;

    Zombie Mambo wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    You got that right brother... i just saw an ad for a new Fantasy
    Island. cmon.

    Have you seen the ads for the reboot of "The Wonder Years"? That's even
    worse! At least I can enjoy the eye candy of the babe in Fantasy Island lol

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sun Aug 8 13:01:40 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Aug 08 2021 07:49 am

    The film is hardly revolutionary. It plays like a common action movie fro the 90s, actually. However, the action scenes were _properly shot_, which something almost nobody is doing anymore. These days, if a director wants shot an action scene, they give the camera to a monkey who suffers Parkinson, so the audience gets to see not a thing of what is going on.


    so basically hollywood stopped stealing from south korean cinema and went to superhero movies.


    Dunno... old hero films had fights you could actually follow. In Batman 1989 you could tell what was going on at the very least.

    In fact Marvel superhero movies actually still allow you to follow the action, they just abuse CGI so much for the fights, it gets painful at times.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sun Aug 8 09:49:00 2021
    This is extremely sad, because when you compare modern Holywood action scenes >with, say, action scenes from certain Thai directors, the Thai ones are _better
    shot_ despite the fact their movies have a 5 dollar budget.

    Although they don't fit the $5 budget theme, the 2 movies I have seen in
    the cinema that I have enjoyed the most over the past 5-6 years were the Bahubali movies from India.


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to OGG on Sun Aug 8 14:21:00 2021
    Quoting Ogg to Arelor <=-

    I hate the jiggly hand-held camera technique that many serials
    and some movies entertain. As soon as I see scenes shot in
    hand-held manner with purposeful jiggly movement, I strike that
    film off the list.

    Agreed. Makes me sea-sick. Buy a tripod already! LOL I don't like the
    effect at all, I don't think it brings ANYTHING artistically to the
    film. Just makes me sick and looks dumb.

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to hollowone on Sun Aug 8 13:04:54 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: hollowone to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:42 pm

    Same is with games. Far Cry 6, Assassin Creed (can't recall the number), Reb of Mass Effect, new Dragon Age... bleh..

    IN gaming at least indie games and revival of retro tech based games is the place where youngsters innovate and corporate fat pigs can't bow down enough

    I think we deserve similar thing in movies.

    yeah i have high hopes for indie movies and companies like netflix but they keep letting me down. every now and again something comes up worth while but there's no over all vibe like there used to be.

    regarding games, my kids find more fun in stupid games on roblox than full blown console games or pc series... Other than Fortnite, they play stuff like Among Us and Granny and other adventure/team/escaperoom type games which remind me more of 80s and 90s computer games than of the large titles of today.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Cobradile on Sun Aug 8 13:07:29 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Cobradile to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:21 pm

    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    I know what you mean. Hollywood feels so bland and corporate nowdays! You mi have the occasional interesting film and here and there (I enjoyed the Sonic movie, for instance), but for the most part, it's just sequels and superhero films, most of which are by Disney, who are slowly absorbing the entire mark and monopolising.

    That's why I turn to indie and films from other countries, because those sti have some semblence of orginality and interesting storytelling. Seeing how Parasite won the Best Picture Oscar last year, I can't be alone.

    It's frustrating to me how Netflix is making the most original English-langu films, because I love the experience of going to the cinema, and hate the id of just streaming things, but it seems the latter is set to kill the former, and movie studios are partly to blame for churning out mediocre-at-best film

    There is a cinema in the city I live in which pretty much exclusively shows classics and foreign films, and my and my friends really enjoy going there n and again, but obviously we haven't been able to recently because of COVID-19...


    I share all of these sentiments with you. I just replied to Hollowone almost exactly what you said. I think people in their 40s and 50s are really feeling the loss. Those who never had it don't understand it and when they get a taste of it they go nuts for it. Its why we in the 80s were so hooked on the 50s.

    Funny that a move named Parasite wins awards when the original Parasite was junk yet so cool because it was in 3D !!!


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Arelor on Sun Aug 8 13:09:24 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 03:55 am

    Funny you mention the Bourne movies, because they seem less formulaic than other franchises you have mentioned by orders of magnitude. However, I have feeling that every movie after the third should have been called "The Bourne Redundancy" because each film didn't add much to the Bourne universe IMO. T one about Outcome could have done but fell a bit short in my opinion.

    I like Mission Impossible films, with the exception of the second, which suc

    I agree with you on bourne and lets face it without Matt Damon, why?

    I was actually thinking about this as i was falling asleep trying to come up with another sequel name for it that would make sense/be interesting.

    Bourne Redundancy did not enter my mind, thanks!!!


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Arelor on Sun Aug 8 13:16:07 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 03:59 am

    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 06:54 pm

    Big trouble in little china, how could you not like it.

    I am going to totally destroy you with this, but here it comes:

    **They are making a sequel of Big Trouble in Little China starring The Rock*

    John Carpenter has already shunned the idea publicly, actually. He said that they didn care for the first movie at all, that they just wanted a film wit The Rock and a recognizeable title in order to sell.

    Or something like that.

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    Yeah they have been talking about sequels for that for years. So many that at one time Kurt Russell was actually talking about it.

    I'd watch that but those actors are so old now and we know they'd somehow try to being the Ageless One (jet li) in to "Walk in and out like the wind" and that would suck balls. What made the first one so good was the mix of well known and not so well known characters, and a story most americans weren't able to completely identify with (chinese culture) which made it awesome.

    The Rock is the lucky recipient of the go-to action hero for all remakes these days...

    Sadly, Brendan Fraiser's slap-happy Mummy movies will always out-do The Rock in a Remake.

    In fact I'd rather watch Brendan's comedy movies like Encino Man than a Rock Remake...

    All one need do is look at the fact that after 2006's Roadhouse 2 direct to tv failure, Hollywood is now tagging Rhonda Rousey to be in a roudhouse reboot to see that they are out of ideas, short on talent in writing and actors, and willing to try anything in hopes that something sticks.

    If they wanted to make a movie that people would watch, they should think about Rhonda Rousey in a Gaitorbait reboot... Like they did with I Spit On Your Grave... That's niche enough people would be interestedf.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to MRO on Sun Aug 8 13:18:43 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: MRO to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 08:05 am

    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 06:54 pm

    By: Arelor to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:53 am

    By the way, I watched John Wick recently, and it reminded me of what

    has
    bee lost.


    I almost mentioned john wick in my recap in the other thread. I love


    those
    movies. Keanu is one of if not the worst actor of all time but I love him regardless...

    It just works. Like transporter.

    i think keanu is a good actor, he just doesn't have an amazing range. he's gene hackman, willem dafoe, ed norton, jack nicholson.

    he's like a clint eastwood, tom cruise, denzel washington, morgan freeman.

    he has stuff he's good at but he doesn't have an amazing gift for range, nor does he have the experience. it's probably due to his good looks. all he needed to do was look cute and brood. he didnt have to struggle.

    i love the guy, though.


    I will politely disagree. There'sa huge difference in Morgan Freeman, for example. And keanu reeves. One could argue they are easy to identify and basically just themseleves in every movie, but freeman is believable. reeves is not. For example, nothing keanu ever does will rise to the status of freeman in something like shawshank.

    I do love keanu tho.

    not hating on him, just stating my opinion.
    :)

    The person i would replace freeman with in your list and then agree with you on is Samuel Jackson.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 10:56:00 2021
    Zombie Mambo wrote to Arelor <=-

    It's funny tho because I do fall for it for other formulas of the same type. For example, I love the Bourne Movies, The Transporter Movies... Partially because you know what you're going to get but also because
    some of it is based in somewhat reality.

    It's a matter of world-building, too. In a franchise, there's lots of time
    to build up back stories, and a shrewd filmmaker can lean on them without making it all one big inside-joke to people who've seen all of the films.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 8 16:37:41 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sun Aug 08 2021 09:49 am

    This is extremely sad, because when you compare modern Holywood action scen >with, say, action scenes from certain Thai directors, the Thai ones are _better
    shot_ despite the fact their movies have a 5 dollar budget.

    Although they don't fit the $5 budget theme, the 2 movies I have seen in
    the cinema that I have enjoyed the most over the past 5-6 years were the Bahubali movies from India.


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    Do you want to share which movies they were? I am always hunting for weird things to watch :-)

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Elf on Sun Aug 8 16:42:28 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Elf to OGG on Sun Aug 08 2021 02:21 pm

    Quoting Ogg to Arelor <=-

    I hate the jiggly hand-held camera technique that many serials
    and some movies entertain. As soon as I see scenes shot in
    hand-held manner with purposeful jiggly movement, I strike that
    film off the list.

    Agreed. Makes me sea-sick. Buy a tripod already! LOL I don't like the
    effect at all, I don't think it brings ANYTHING artistically to the
    film. Just makes me sick and looks dumb.

    ~Elf

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    It is even worse when you realize that, in the glory days of old (ie from 1910 until VERY recent times), directors and camera crews were obsessed with achieving the most perfect stability possible with the camera.

    Heck, Frankenstein 1931 (with Boris Karloff) was known, back in the day, for the amazing feat of shooting a scene in which the camera followed a man who moved down the street without shaking (too much).

    Being able to make clear takes was considered a feat worthy of celebration and praise. Now it does not mean crap. It is depresing :-(

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 9 03:36:36 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to MRO on Sun Aug 08 2021 01:18 pm



    I will politely disagree. There'sa huge difference in Morgan Freeman, for example. And keanu reeves. One could argue they are easy to identify and basically just themseleves in every movie, but freeman is believable. reeves is not. For example, nothing keanu ever does will rise to the status of

    freeman is the same dude in every movie. he has no range. he just uses the same bag of tricks.

    he is better than it than keanu, but still. no range.

    with keanu there's something weird like the guy has no soul or there's something seriously wrong with the guy and it's bleeding through.
    it's like he cant be human on film.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 9 10:52:39 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    Another Fast and Furious? Boooooooooooring.
    I find the entire FF franchise irritating.

    Another superhero film? Seriously.... cmon.
    I loved the last 10 years of Marvel films. I'm looking forward to what they're going to release next, but I'm keeping my expectations low. DC films, on the other hand, have been really nothing but disappointement after disappointment, with very few exceptions.

    How aboutan awesome adventure movie? Harrison Ford is getting too old.

    I love Harrison Ford, but the guy now seems to get injured every film he makes. I think he's been injured twice making this last Indiana Jones flick.

    And anything that seems out of the ordinary from the typical movie is probably made by netflix and has some underlying political theme regarding racism, transphobia, or right-wing hate.

    I dunno, what a lot of people see as "woke" films many other people see as "representation". I, as a straight, white guy can really turn on any movie or TV show and find a character that I identify with. "Hey, that guy has had similar experiences in life that I have, I get that!"

    It must be nice for those with different experiences or orientations to find someone they can identify with too.

    Why can't we just have another cool WAR GAMES or EXPLORERS or LAST STARFIGHTER or hell, LAST DRAGON... Not a remake, not a reboot, something new and different.

    I'm looking forward to seeing Ryan Reynolds' new flick, "Free Guy" at some point. I'm still not comfortable with going to the theater yet, as many people in my family are super high risk when it comes to covid, so I'll have to wait on that one, but it seems like a pretty original video game/real life crossover thing.

    I had high hopes for Ready Player One because the book was decent but nope. I think Sandler's Pixels was more fun.

    The book was good. The movie was probably easier to follow if you hadn't read the book though, and I think that's what they were going for. No one reads anymore.





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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Ogg on Mon Aug 9 11:01:15 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 06:31 pm

    [...] These days, if a director wants to shot an action
    scene, they give the camera to a monkey who suffers
    Parkinson, so the audience gets to see not a thing of what
    is going on.

    LOL!

    I hate the jiggly hand-held camera technique that many serials
    and some movies entertain. As soon as I see scenes shot in
    hand-held manner with purposeful jiggly movement, I strike that
    film off the list.

    Something I just heard recently is that you'll see this far more often in films that are PG or PG-13, apparently, to cover up "gratuitous violence" that could get a film an R rating.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to DaiTengu on Mon Aug 9 13:34:51 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: DaiTengu to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 09 2021 10:52 am

    I dunno, what a lot of people see as "woke" films many other people see as "representation". I, as a straight, white guy can really turn on any movie TV show and find a character that I identify with. "Hey, that guy has had similar experiences in life that I have, I get that!"


    The problem with token minority characters is that they are easily
    identifiable as political declarations rather than characters that are there to push the plot forward.

    In other words, they have a tendency to stick out, just like bad product placement.

    There are lots of examples of characters that hail from SJW-approved groups that don't take away from the film, but those only happen when the character has more weight in the film than being the gay/black/woman/apache-helicopter. This means the characters have a reason for being in the film other than making a political statement, and have interesting traits beyond being a SJW-approved minority member, so the fact they are gays/blacks/women/apache-helicopters feels like a colorful addon, not more important than the hat they wear, instead of a defining characteristic of the character.

    This is why Sergeant Porter Nash (Blitz, 2011) does not feel like a token gay, and why Joe and Nicky (The Old Guard, 2020) feel like shoehorned ideological propaganda. Nash's defining characteristic is that he is a tough-as-nails
    cop. Joe and Nicky's defining characteristic is that they are gay. Nash is a cool character regardless of his sexual tastes and does not feel out of place. Joe and Nicky only exist because somebody had to be gay in The Old Guard.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Brian Rogers on Mon Aug 9 13:27:49 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 09:12 am

    Have you seen the ads for the reboot of "The Wonder Years"? That's even worse! At least I can enjoy the eye candy of the babe in Fantasy Island lol


    OMG. I will only watch if they bring back the original winnie cooper.
    ;)


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Arelor on Mon Aug 9 13:54:49 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to hollowone on Sat Aug 07 2021 07:16 pm

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: hollowone to Arelor on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:45 pm

    This is extremely sad, because when you compare modern Holywood acti scenes with, say, action scenes from certain Thai directors, the Tha ones are _better shot_ despite the fact their movies have a 5 dollar budget.

    Now you made me curious. I want a Thai action movie recommendation, right


    Two I can recommend from the top of my head are Ong-Bak and The Protector. B star Tony Jaa.

    Expect no groundgreaking plots and no groundbreaking characters. The martial arts in them, however, are freaking amazing. After watching the making offs realized the director is a freaking genious. That guy can shoot a chase scen in an alley 10 meters long and make it look like the chase ran through the whole city.

    The Protector in particular has some fight scenes that are taken in ONE FUCK SHOT WORTH MANY MINUTES OF BEATING PEOPLE. Imagine a scene in which the hero enters a building from ground level and works his way to the top beating everybody in his way, while the camera follows the onslaught, and there is n single cut until the hero reaches the very top.

    I cannot honestly say these are great movies, but hell, they do a lot of thi right that modern action films just don't.


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    Then watch 1985's The Protector with Jackie Chan.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 9 17:05:50 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Arelor on Mon Aug 09 2021 01:54 pm

    Then watch 1985's The Protector with Jackie Chan.


    Thanks,
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    I take note.

    It is funny, but I haven't watched that many movies from Jackie Chan. I should fix that.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Mon Aug 9 16:34:00 2021
    Although they don't fit the $5 budget theme, the 2 movies I have seen in the cinema that I have enjoyed the most over the past 5-6 years were the Bahubali movies from India.

    Do you want to share which movies they were? I am always hunting for weird things to watch :-)

    Bahubali and Bahubali 2. IIRC, 2 had a subtitle but I cannot remember it offhand.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Mon Aug 9 16:29:00 2021
    Have you seen the ads for the reboot of "The Wonder Years"? That's even worse! At least I can enjoy the eye candy of the babe in Fantasy Island lol

    They are rebooting TWY, too? Where?


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  • From Cobradile@VERT/CONCHAOS to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 9 19:55:25 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to Cobradile on Sun Aug 08 2021 01:07 pm

    Re: state of movies
    By: Cobradile to Zombie Mambo on Sat Aug 07 2021 04:21 pm

    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Fri Aug 06 2021 01:58 pm

    I know what you mean. Hollywood feels so bland and corporate nowdays! You mi have the occasional interesting film and here an
    there (I enjoyed the Sonic movie, for instance), but for the most part, it's just sequels and superhero films, most of which
    by Disney, who are slowly absorbing the entire mark and monopolising.

    That's why I turn to indie and films from other countries, because those sti have some semblence of orginality and interestin
    storytelling. Seeing how Parasite won the Best Picture Oscar last year, I can't be alone.

    It's frustrating to me how Netflix is making the most original English-langu films, because I love the experience of going to
    the cinema, and hate the id of just streaming things, but it seems the latter is set to kill the former, and movie studios ar
    partly to blame for churning out mediocre-at-best film

    There is a cinema in the city I live in which pretty much exclusively shows classics and foreign films, and my and my friend
    really enjoy going there n and again, but obviously we haven't been able to recently because of COVID-19...


    I share all of these sentiments with you. I just replied to Hollowone almost exactly what you said. I think people in their 40s
    50s are really feeling the loss. Those who never had it don't understand it and when they get a taste of it they go nuts for it.
    Its why we in the 80s were so hooked on the 50s.

    Funny that a move named Parasite wins awards when the original Parasite was junk yet so cool because it was in 3D !!!


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    There was an original Parasite film? I didn't know the Oscar winning one was a remake?
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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to MRO on Wed Aug 11 12:02:02 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: MRO to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 09 2021 03:36 am

    Re: state of movies
    By: Zombie Mambo to MRO on Sun Aug 08 2021 01:18 pm



    I will politely disagree. There'sa huge difference in Morgan Freeman, fo example. And keanu reeves. One could argue they are easy to identify and basically just themseleves in every movie, but freeman is believable. ree is not. For example, nothing keanu ever does will rise to the status of

    freeman is the same dude in every movie. he has no range. he just uses the same bag of tricks.

    he is better than it than keanu, but still. no range.

    with keanu there's something weird like the guy has no soul or there's something seriously wrong with the guy and it's bleeding through.
    it's like he cant be human on film.


    you are so right about keanu. it's like he's a cyborg and nobody's figured it out yet.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to DaiTengu on Wed Aug 11 12:10:01 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: DaiTengu to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 09 2021 10:52 am


    Some great points.

    I do agree about identification but there's also a reality...
    The reality is, you're not going to walk into that situation all the time where there's representation for everyone of every race, let alone mindset, so when that happens in many movies it feels fake and forced.

    ESPECIALLY when the directors feel the need to exploit or play on the differences as subtle reminders. ie when a black character has to remind the white friend/partner whatver that, that's not how its done in their family, or "as a black woman, "... blah blach.

    that doesn't happen like that in real life, especially amongst close people. you have to assume that "as partners" the two guys probably already know that.

    So it would be cool to let a relationship organically play out on screen without cues and liberties for a change, but then, hollywood couldn't exploit wokism, racial tensions, and other things to draw people in or get awards for diversity, or praise from each other, etc.

    And now its getting stereotypical.

    Can't have a group of computer nerds unless one is asian. And he probably has a backpack and a skateboard.

    Gotta have a semi-oddly hot white girl in there as a hacker too, but not a black girl because societ hasn't accepted them as hacker material yet.

    Do indian girls even exist in movies that are not from baliwood or other indian-made cmpanies?

    i mean , other than Mindy who seems to have cornered that market.

    Also your point about books is true and sad.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Cobradile on Wed Aug 11 12:19:59 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Cobradile to Zombie Mambo on Mon Aug 09 2021 07:55 pm

    There was an original Parasite film? I didn't know the Oscar winning one was remake?
    .

    No I don't think this recent one had anything to do with the original. not a reboot/remake. the original from 1982 was Demi Moore's first feature, and one of the worst movies ever made, which is why you should watch it. It was in 3D and billed as a monster movie. There's gore in it but its so hokey its worth a revist.

    It's also interesting that its about a parasite devloped for something that accidently gets out and infects people, then threatens the entire human race.

    timely.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Zombie Mambo on Wed Aug 11 15:08:00 2021
    Hello Zombie;

    Zombie Mambo wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    OMG. I will only watch if they bring back the original winnie cooper.
    ;)

    Good luck with that, BLM took over the show now.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Wed Aug 11 15:09:00 2021
    Hello Dumas;

    Dumas Walker wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    They are rebooting TWY, too? Where?

    Yes. Kevin et all are now all of a sudden black, not white. That's not a reboot. They're stealing an original to fit into political ways. Disgusting!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Zombie Mambo on Thu Aug 12 06:48:00 2021
    Zombie Mambo wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Gotta have a semi-oddly hot white girl in there as a hacker too, but
    not a black girl because societ hasn't accepted them as hacker material yet.

    Mr. Robot had the Hot Mess HackerGirl(tm), but included a female Muslim hacker, too. Nice touch.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 12 13:03:08 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Zombie Mambo on Thu Aug 12 2021 06:48 am

    Zombie Mambo wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Gotta have a semi-oddly hot white girl in there as a hacker too, but not a black girl because societ hasn't accepted them as hacker material yet.

    Mr. Robot had the Hot Mess HackerGirl(tm), but included a female Muslim hacker, too. Nice touch.


    ... The strongest steel is forged in the fires of a dumpster.

    pts for diversity there!


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Brian Rogers on Wed Sep 15 01:36:00 2021
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Sunday 08.08.21 - 09:12, Brian Rogers wrote to Zombie Mambo:

    At least I can enjoy the eye candy of the babe in Fantasy
    Island lol

    I get regular OTA tv here, and that show is on the main (the
    one with the best reception) channel once a week. After having
    seen about 3 of the shows now, I'm tuning out. First of all,
    Ms Roarke's articulation of the english language is sloppy.
    Granted, I can find a foreign accent on a beautiful woman to be
    sexy and appealing. But it's not working in the format of that
    show. Second, the show is turning into more of a preachy thing
    about human behaviour.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Wed Sep 15 11:12:00 2021
    Hey Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I get regular OTA tv here, and that show is on the main (the
    one with the best reception) channel once a week. After having
    seen about 3 of the shows now, I'm tuning out. First of all,
    Ms Roarke's articulation of the english language is sloppy.
    Granted, I can find a foreign accent on a beautiful woman to be
    sexy and appealing. But it's not working in the format of that
    show. Second, the show is turning into more of a preachy thing
    about human behaviour.

    I've yet to even sample the show... but in total honesty I don't have any interest just as I don't have any interest to watch a black kevin arnold in
    the reboot of the wonder years. Had that been what the original character was that'd be one thing but characters don't change races for a reboot... sorry.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Wed Sep 15 08:06:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    sexy and appealing. But it's not working in the format of that
    show. Second, the show is turning into more of a preachy thing
    about human behaviour.

    I want to go onto the retro TV channels on Roku and see if I can see the original pilot with Ricardo Montalban. If memory serves, he was a little
    crazy and gave people the fantasies they needed, not the ones they wanted.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 15 23:36:00 2021
    Hello poindexter FORTRAN!

    ** On Wednesday 15.09.21 - 08:06, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg:

    [...] Second, the show is turning into more of a preachy
    thing about human behaviour.

    I want to go onto the retro TV channels on Roku and see if
    I can see the original pilot with Ricardo Montalban. If
    memory serves, he was a little crazy and gave people the
    fantasies they needed, not the ones they wanted.

    In that sense, the reboot is not much different. Mr Roarke's
    neice is the new host of the island. She pretty much does the
    same thing; hypnotises the guests into believing what they
    want. The idea of what the guest's want vs what they need is
    maintained.

    The original was.. well.. original. "The plane! The Plane!"
    started to drive me crazy.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Brian Rogers on Wed Sep 15 23:49:00 2021
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Wednesday 15.09.21 - 11:12, Brian Rogers wrote to Ogg:

    [...] I don't have any interest to watch a black kevin
    arnold inthe reboot of the wonder years. Had that been
    what the original character was that'd be one thing but
    characters don't change races for a reboot... sorry.

    I hear ya with the woke or culturally inclusive approach to
    reboots. Why isn't it equally fair to have a white person play
    the part of an original indigenous character in an indigenous
    story, as it is when they are placing black characters in the
    roles of orignal stories that were clearly written and invented
    with white people in mind?

    The new Fantasy Island has the niece of the original Roarke. He
    was Mexican. The new Roarke is an actress with a Puerto Rican
    background - close enough! LOL



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ogg on Thu Sep 16 12:45:15 2021
    Re: state of movies
    By: Ogg to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 15 2021 11:36 pm

    The original was.. well.. original. "The plane! The Plane!"
    started to drive me crazy.

    Classic!
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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Thu Sep 16 18:00:00 2021
    Hello Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I hear ya with the woke or culturally inclusive approach to
    reboots. Why isn't it equally fair to have a white person play
    the part of an original indigenous character in an indigenous
    story, as it is when they are placing black characters in the
    roles of orignal stories that were clearly written and invented
    with white people in mind?

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if it
    was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    The new Fantasy Island has the niece of the original Roarke. He
    was Mexican. The new Roarke is an actress with a Puerto Rican
    background - close enough! LOL

    Now that somewhat makes some sense. Unlike some of the other reboots.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Sep 16 18:53:00 2021
    Hello poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg <=-

    I want to go onto the retro TV channels on Roku and see if I can see
    the original pilot with Ricardo Montalban. If memory serves, he was a little crazy and gave people the fantasies they needed, not the ones
    they wanted.

    Try IMDBtv or some of those. You'll probably be able to find the pilot
    quite easily.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 16 17:26:48 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Ogg on Thu Sep 16 2021 06:00 pm

    I hear ya with the woke or culturally inclusive approach to
    reboots. Why isn't it equally fair to have a white person play
    the part of an original indigenous character in an indigenous
    story, as it is when they are placing black characters in the
    roles of orignal stories that were clearly written and invented
    with white people in mind?

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    And also Airplane!, or Blazing Saddles..

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 07:56:34 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 16 2021 05:26 pm

    I hear ya with the woke or culturally inclusive approach to
    reboots. Why isn't it equally fair to have a white person play
    the part of an original indigenous character in an indigenous
    story, as it is when they are placing black characters in the
    roles of orignal stories that were clearly written and invented
    with white people in mind?

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    And also Airplane!, or Blazing Saddles..

    That is a different point though, the original point dealing with the Wonder Years I strongly disagree with. Redoing the wonder years in the same year with a white cast would have been uninteresting. Move the year to the 90's or using a black cast shows a whole new perspective. I saw the actor that plays the new "Kevin Arnold" and he was in tears talking about how excited he was to play a positive black role and that experience. Makes a lot of sense to me and way more interesting.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 17 08:52:36 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:06 am

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    sexy and appealing. But it's not working in the format of that
    show. Second, the show is turning into more of a preachy thing
    about human behaviour.

    I want to go onto the retro TV channels on Roku and see if I can see the original pilot with Ricardo Montalban. If memory serves, he was a little crazy and gave people the fantasies they needed, not the ones they wanted.



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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Brian Rogers on Fri Sep 17 08:34:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Ogg <=-

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if
    it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    How about "Blazing Saddles" today.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 10:39:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    And also Airplane!, or Blazing Saddles..

    Blazing Saddles... funny af! They already clipped out the scenes in Airplane! and the sequal where Barbara Billingsly was talking jive to the two gentlemen and translating to the airline staff. That too was funny af but people take it so far out of context which is quite sad.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Brian Rogers on Fri Sep 17 12:40:55 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 2021 10:39 am

    Blazing Saddles... funny af! They already clipped out the scenes in Airplane! and the sequal where Barbara Billingsly was talking jive to the two gentlemen and translating to the airline staff. That too was funny af but people take it so far out of context which is quite sad.

    There's also the scene where the 2 kids are talking and the girl says how she likes her coffee.. And the scene where the airplane pilot is asking the boy suggestive questions..

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to The Lizard Master on Fri Sep 17 17:50:31 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 2021 07:56 am

    That is a different point though, the original point dealing with the Wonder Years I strongly disagree with. Redoing the wonder years in the same year w a white cast would have been uninteresting. Move the year to the 90's or us a black cast shows a whole new perspective. I saw the actor that plays the "Kevin Arnold" and he was in tears talking about how excited he was to play positive black role and that experience. Makes a lot of sense to me and way more interesting.


    Recasting is about making a political statement, not about making art.

    My stance about remakes is well known anyway. Most of the time they take a movie that was good and remake it because they think they can improve it. They fail more often than not.

    If you take a masterpiece (say, the original Robocop) and try to make a new version, it is very hard for you to make one that is _better_.

    And you can cast a black Robocop for the remake, but it does not change the fact that you are competing against a masterpiece and chances are you will fall short. Specially if you are bent on making politics instead of art.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dr. What on Sat Sep 18 07:37:00 2021
    Hey Dr. What;

    Dr. What wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    How about "Blazing Saddles" today.

    I'd hate to think about it. Cleavon Little was excellent in that movie too.
    Of course the zombies (I don't call them woke by any means!) wouldn't see it
    as such, they'd see it as white supremecy, racism, bla bla bla. Humor and
    true hatred are two totally different things... yet today they've merged them into one.

    I suppose if we legalized more recreational drugs to further eat away at our craniums we'd eventually hit a point where no one would be able to speak out against things *sigh*

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Sat Sep 18 07:40:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    There's also the scene where the 2 kids are talking and the girl says
    how she likes her coffee..

    LOL yea.. but she's talking to a white boy basically trying to shame him for being white - so that's OK.

    And the scene where the airplane pilot is
    asking the boy suggestive questions..

    A few of those questions I disagreed with and didn't find that funny anyway, and I'm sure there's others who agree. They didn't really fit into the plot and could be removed without affecting the movie's flow.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to The Lizard Master on Sat Sep 18 08:04:00 2021
    Hello Lizard Master;

    The Lizard Master wrote to Nightfox <=-

    That is a different point though, the original point dealing with the Wonder Years I strongly disagree with. Redoing the wonder years in the same year with a white cast would have been uninteresting.

    When you mention the name "Kevin Arnold" I think of Fred Savage. He just happens to be one particular race. Had another actor of another race played
    the original Kevin Arnold it'd be a different story... at least for me. I'm probably the least racist person you'd ever meet.

    Move the
    year to the 90's or using a black cast shows a whole new perspective.
    I saw the actor that plays the new "Kevin Arnold" and he was in tears talking about how excited he was to play a positive black role and that experience. Makes a lot of sense to me and way more interesting.

    As a totally new show, new character names, etc that'd be fine. To try and
    live off of an existing name that was successful I find to be a bit
    cowardess. That'd be like stealing source code from a successful program
    and making the screens dark and calling it the same name but claiming YOU
    wrote it.

    I'm not against the theme or topic of the show, I'm against them riding on
    the coattails of what was once a successful show and trying to turn it into something it's not. The show should have it's own name along with the characters and not consider it a reboot. An example of a good reboot is
    the Connors... and even that show changed it's name due to Roseanne wigging
    out with the mouth pollution.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 08:07:00 2021
    Hello Arelor;

    Arelor wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

    Recasting is about making a political statement, not about making art.

    My point exactly.

    My stance about remakes is well known anyway. Most of the time they
    take a movie that was good and remake it because they think they can improve it. They fail more often than not.

    Not just reboots but even sequals. One thing they teach you when doing
    comedy on the radio is: never ever try to out-do your original punch line because you'll make both that and your new one fail. Wait for the next talk
    up and then do a new joke.

    If you take a masterpiece (say, the original Robocop) and try to make a new version, it is very hard for you to make one that is _better_.

    And you can cast a black Robocop for the remake, but it does not change the fact that you are competing against a masterpiece and chances are
    you will fall short. Specially if you are bent on making politics
    instead of art.

    I prefer Battlebots to Robocop <G>

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Brian Rogers on Sat Sep 18 13:56:45 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 2021 08:07 am

    Not just reboots but even sequals. One thing they teach you when doing comedy on the radio is: never ever try to out-do your original punch line because you'll make bo
    that and your new one fail. Wait for the next talk
    up and then do a new joke.

    I think sequels are problematic for other reasons.

    The main problem with sequels is that, usually, the original was successful because it was built on
    some original concept. That concept was what made the film good, however, by the end of the film
    the concept is spent.

    If you want to make a sequel, you cannot recycle the concept and expect it to carry the whole movie
    forward, because the concept has been already spent. You need the sequel to bring something new
    forth, to sustain itself on a different idea. And usually, they fail to make the new idea as
    compelling as the original idea was.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Brian Rogers on Sat Sep 18 13:58:21 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 2021 08:07 am

    That said, I don't have much trouble qith sequels because they are usually more successful than
    remakes, because they are easier to get right.

    I think El Libro Negro, the sequel to my first book, is superior to the original, for example.
    Mostly because it didn't try to be a copy of the original, but its own thing.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Brian Rogers on Sat Sep 18 20:02:00 2021
    Hello Brian!

    ** On Saturday 18.09.21 - 08:04, you wrote to The Lizard Master:

    [...] An example of a good reboot is the Connors... and
    even that show changed it's name due to Roseanne wigging
    out with the mouth pollution.

    I thought it was a harsh termination based on silly one-time
    remark "she looks like a monkey" towards some political
    character, or something like that.

    There are millions of people, including late night talk-show
    hosts and commedians spewing much more vile, vitriol, animal
    comparisons, every day towards politicians and nothing happens
    to them.

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Brian Rogers on Sat Sep 18 21:01:04 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to The Lizard Master on Sat Sep 18 2021 08:04 am

    When you mention the name "Kevin Arnold" I think of Fred Savage. He just happens to be one particular race. Had another actor of another race played the original Kevin Arnold it'd be a different story... at least for me. I'm probably the least racist person you'd ever meet.

    Fred Savage is directing it. It's an interesting take.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Arelor on Sun Sep 19 08:13:00 2021
    Hello Arelor;

    Arelor wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I think sequels are problematic for other reasons.

    The main problem with sequels is that, usually, the original was successful because it was built on some original concept. That concept
    was what made the film good, however, by the end of the film the
    concept is spent.

    Most sequals this is quite true, however there are a few that I would
    consider successful. Those would include: Naked Gun 2/12, Airplane II,
    and on another theme Poltergeist II. Poltergeist 3 was a horrible film.
    By the time 3 was made, the horse was glue so to speak <G>

    If you want to make a sequel, you cannot recycle the concept and expect
    it to carry the whole movie forward, because the concept has been
    already spent. You need the sequel to bring something new forth, to sustain itself on a different idea. And usually, they fail to make the
    new idea as compelling as the original idea was.

    With a comedy it's a bit easier. Another series would be Star Wars, Star Trek Police Acadamy (to a point) where there's sequals... but again that's the
    deep exception not at all the rule.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Sun Sep 19 08:28:00 2021
    Hey Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I thought it was a harsh termination based on silly one-time
    remark "she looks like a monkey" towards some political
    character, or something like that.

    It was because her comment was directed towards a politician on the left.
    Had it been someone on the right nothing would have happened.

    There are millions of people, including late night talk-show
    hosts and commedians spewing much more vile, vitriol, animal
    comparisons, every day towards politicians and nothing happens
    to them.

    The stuff that's been said about Trump in his years in office, and even continuing is horrid but you're correct, nothing happens to them.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to The Lizard Master on Sun Sep 19 08:31:00 2021
    Hey TLM;

    The Lizard Master wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Fred Savage is directing it. It's an interesting take.

    Yes it is an interesting take on it. Considering how long that show was originally on I'd safely guess they've burned things up already. I'm not wishing it failure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't make it
    beyond 3 seasons tops.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THE LIZARD MASTER on Sun Sep 19 11:09:00 2021
    Move the
    year to the 90's or using a black cast shows a whole new perspective.
    I saw the actor that plays the new "Kevin Arnold" and he was in tears talking about how excited he was to play a positive black role and that experience. Makes a lot of sense to me and way more interesting.

    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line?
    IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time line
    to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact copy
    of, the original, I could get into it.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Brian Rogers on Sun Sep 19 16:45:34 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to Arelor on Sun Sep 19 2021 08:13 am

    With a comedy it's a bit easier. Another series would be Star Wars, Star Trek Police Acadamy (to
    point) where there's sequals... but again that's the
    deep exception not at all the rule.


    Star Wars is a different story.

    First of all, I would not consider the movies in each trilogy a sequel to its predecessor. The Star
    Wars movies were conceived as a series. Series work as a unit that tell a cohesive story. I think
    of the trologies as megafilms composed of three films each (the same way I consider the Baahubali
    series I reviewed earlier a single megamovie).

    Now, if you are comparing the original trilogy against the first prequel trilogy they made, things
    change a bit.

    They sort of pulled it off because the original trilogy tells the story of the fall of Darth Vader,
    and the prequel tells the story of the ascension of Darth Vader. They are different yet similar
    things that work together. Sort off. Still I am not very fond of the prequel because it feels a bit
    dumber in general.

    I know nothing of the others because I jumped ship rather than face the impending decline of the
    franchise.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 19 21:47:10 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Dumas Walker to THE LIZARD MASTER on Sun Sep 19 2021 11:09 am

    Move the
    year to the 90's or using a black cast shows a whole new perspective.
    I saw the actor that plays the new "Kevin Arnold" and he was in tears talking about how excited he was to play a positive black role and that experience. Makes a lot of sense to me and way more interesting.

    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line?
    IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time line
    to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact copy of, the original, I could get into it.

    did you ever see the wonder years? the timeline was in the past.
    what would you call it if it was more recent? today's shitty years?


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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Dumas Walker on Mon Sep 20 07:17:18 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Dumas Walker to THE LIZARD MASTER on Sun Sep 19 2021 11:09 am

    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line?
    IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time line
    to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact copy of, the original, I could get into it.

    They did not shift the time line, I was just throwing that out as an example of something they might have considered.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Arelor on Mon Sep 20 09:30:00 2021
    Hello Arelor;

    Arelor wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Star Wars is a different story.

    To a point yes.

    First of all, I would not consider the movies in each trilogy a sequel
    to its predecessor. The Star Wars movies were conceived as a series. Series work as a unit that tell a cohesive story. I think of the
    trologies as megafilms composed of three films each (the same way I consider the Baahubali series I reviewed earlier a single megamovie).

    This I agree with you on. One movie started the 3, and they fell in sequence not as sequals.

    Now, if you are comparing the original trilogy against the first
    prequel trilogy they made, things change a bit.

    A bit for the worse IMHO... but I know others who love them. That's what makes us all individuals.

    They sort of pulled it off because the original trilogy tells the story
    of the fall of Darth Vader, and the prequel tells the story of the ascension of Darth Vader. They are different yet similar things that
    work together. Sort off. Still I am not very fond of the prequel
    because it feels a bit dumber in general.

    However if you look at the trilogy as 1 movie and the prequels as a sequal
    to the original, then the sequal failed.

    I know nothing of the others because I jumped ship rather than face the impending decline of the franchise.

    I have all 6. While the prequals were "ok" they by all means didn't do
    the trilogy justice - but that's my worthless opinion. <G>

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Sep 20 16:04:00 2021
    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line? IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time line to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact copy of, the original, I could get into it.

    did you ever see the wonder years? the timeline was in the past.
    what would you call it if it was more recent? today's shitty years?

    Yes, every episode at least once. It was set about 15 or so years in the past when it aired. What I meant was to shift it to more recent than c1970, like
    15 or so years from now, maybe c1990-95. If it is set around 1970, I am not sure it will find as big an audience with anyone much younger than me
    (early 50's).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THE LIZARD MASTER on Mon Sep 20 16:01:00 2021
    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line? IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time line to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact copy of, the original, I could get into it.

    They did not shift the time line, I was just throwing that out as an example o
    something they might have considered.

    So it is also set in the late 1960's - early 1970's? Good luck getting
    younger folks to watch.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to BRIAN ROGERS on Mon Sep 20 22:07:00 2021
    BRIAN ROGERS wrote to OGG <=-

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if
    it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    I think it and Blazing Saddles just simply wouldn't be made
    today. And I think they are both hilarious!





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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 22:08:00 2021
    NIGHTFOX wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    And also Airplane!, or Blazing Saddles..

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 22:09:00 2021
    NIGHTFOX wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    There's also the scene where the 2 kids are talking and the girl says
    how she likes her coffee.. And the scene where the airplane pilot is asking the boy suggestive questions..

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to BRIAN ROGERS on Mon Sep 20 22:10:00 2021
    BRIAN ROGERS wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    And the scene where the airplane pilot is
    asking the boy suggestive questions..

    A few of those questions I disagreed with and didn't find that funny anyway, and I'm sure there's others who agree. They didn't really fit into the plot and could be removed without affecting the movie's flow.

    But that's the whole point - they were so non sequitor. :-) And Joey
    didn't even pay attention, so you could say it's a statement on how
    kids don't actually pick up on 'adult conversation.' :-)




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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 17:08:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to THE LIZARD MASTER <=-

    @MSGID: <614758E2.36458.dove-ent@capitolcityonline.net>
    @REPLY: <6145E002.734.dove-ent@bbs.n1uro.com>
    Move the
    year to the 90's or using a black cast shows a whole new perspective.
    I saw the actor that plays the new "Kevin Arnold" and he was in tears talking about how excited he was to play a positive black role and that experience. Makes a lot of sense to me and way more interesting.

    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line? IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time
    line to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact
    copy of, the original, I could get into it.

    I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" made about the 90s, though in reality they'll stuff it up and make it 'woke'.

    I'm not sure the changes from the 90s to the 20s are as significant as the changes from the 60s to the 90s.

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 09:18:44 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Dumas Walker to THE LIZARD MASTER on Mon Sep 20 2021 04:01 pm

    So it is also set in the late 1960's - early 1970's? Good luck getting younger folks to watch.

    Yeah, I think a timeline shift was needed. We will see though.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Tue Sep 21 09:10:59 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Boraxman to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 2021 05:08 pm

    I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" made about the 90s, though in reality they'll stuff it up and make it 'woke'.

    I'm not sure the changes from the 90s to the 20s are as significant as the changes from the 60s to the 90s.

    that sounds like fun. but didnt they do that with the rosanne show sans rosanne.


    maybe they can have a family and the boy wants to be a girl and dresses like one. maybe all of the kids can be like that and have hormone injections.

    and they can talk about trump all the time.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Tue Sep 21 09:13:23 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: The Lizard Master to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 2021 09:18 am

    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Dumas Walker to THE LIZARD MASTER on Mon Sep 20 2021 04:01 pm

    So it is also set in the late 1960's - early 1970's? Good luck getting younger folks to watch.

    Yeah, I think a timeline shift was needed. We will see though.

    i dont think people want to see a black family on tv unless they are stereotypical "niggas". the cosby show was probably the only good substantial wholesome black show in existance. they showed black people in a good light and also focused on their issues.

    too bad the cos was drugging women and swinging his dick in their mouths.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 08:41:19 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 2021 10:08 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 08:01:00 2021
    Hello Jimmy;

    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    I think it and Blazing Saddles just simply wouldn't be made
    today. And I think they are both hilarious!

    People today have forgotten how to laugh at themselves which is an important thing to survive in today's world. After all if you can't laugh at yourself
    you have no business laughing at others.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 08:03:00 2021
    Hello Jimmy;

    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    But that's the whole point - they were so non sequitor. :-) And Joey didn't even pay attention, so you could say it's a statement on how
    kids don't actually pick up on 'adult conversation.' :-)

    Back then perhaps but in today's school "literature", they teach young teens and tweens about things such as homosexuality and anal sex. I always thought those were things that would land you in prison - not today... but you can't use that sort of humor in movies.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 19:51:00 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 20 2021 04:04 pm

    I have seen previews of the show. Did they also shift the time line? IMHO, the original show is roughly 30 years old... shifting the time li to more recent might make it more relevant to today's audience.

    I thought it looks promising. If it is similar to, but not an exact co of, the original, I could get into it.

    did you ever see the wonder years? the timeline was in the past.
    what would you call it if it was more recent? today's shitty years?

    Yes, every episode at least once. It was set about 15 or so years in the pas when it aired. What I meant was to shift it to more recent than c1970, like 15 or so years from now, maybe c1990-95. If it is set around 1970, I am not sure it will find as big an audience with anyone much younger than me
    (early 50's).


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    The ABC series of Wonder Years originated in 1988, but thestory takes plac
    ein 1968. The story arc is from 1968 to 1973. A few years back a similar
    show came out where the stories were based on stuff he recorded as a kid on
    his parent's camcorder. The show was about the late 80's/early 90's however
    it didn't have that same magic as Wonder Years did.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tue Sep 21 19:56:00 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: MRO to The Lizard Master on Tue Sep 21 2021 09:13 am

    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: The Lizard Master to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 2021 09:18 am

    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Dumas Walker to THE LIZARD MASTER on Mon Sep 20 2021 04:01 pm

    So it is also set in the late 1960's - early 1970's? Good luck gettin younger folks to watch.

    Yeah, I think a timeline shift was needed. We will see though.

    i dont think people want to see a black family on tv unless they are stereot es.

    too bad the cos was drugging women and swinging his dick in their mouths.

    You must not have seen the series "Black-ish." It ran for seven years, and dealt with an upper class black family who didn't fit the stereotype.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tue Sep 21 19:57:00 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 2021 08:41 am

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 2021 10:08 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Nightfox

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane films

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BORAXMAN on Tue Sep 21 16:12:00 2021
    I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" made about the 90s, though in reality they'll
    stuff it up and make it 'woke'.

    I'm not sure the changes from the 90s to the 20s are as significant as the changes from the 60s to the 90s.

    That is sort of where I was going. If they are targeting people who can remember the late 1960's, their audience is going to be much smaller than
    those who can remember the 1990's.

    I half expect they will stuff it up, even being set in the late '60's, and
    make it "woke." I hope not but we will see.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tue Sep 21 21:31:03 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 21 2021 07:51 pm

    show came out where the stories were based on stuff he recorded as a kid on his parent's camcorder. The show was about the late 80's/early 90's however it didn't have that same magic as Wonder Years did.

    what show was this?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tue Sep 21 21:33:36 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Sep 21 2021 07:56 pm


    You must not have seen the series "Black-ish." It ran for seven years, and dealt with an upper class black family who didn't fit the stereotype.

    nope never heard of it. and it looks like it had several actors i liked.
    it got canceled because of bad ratings.

    i'll download and episode and see what it's like.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tue Sep 21 21:33:58 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 21 2021 07:57 pm

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 2021 08:41 am

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 2021 10:08 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Nightfox

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane films

    i dont think nightfox would get that type of comedy. he takes everything literal.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Wed Sep 22 16:52:00 2021
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    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Boraxman to Dumas Walker on
    Tue Sep 21 2021 05:08 pm

    I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" made about the 90s, though in reality they'll stuff it up and make it 'woke'.

    I'm not sure the changes from the 90s to the 20s are as significant as the changes from the 60s to the 90s.

    that sounds like fun. but didnt they do that with the rosanne show
    sans rosanne.


    maybe they can have a family and the boy wants to be a girl and dresses like one. maybe all of the kids can be like that and have hormone injections.

    And a blonde wife with a black husband, because that is so edgy and would trigger the conservatives you know.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Sep 22 16:54:00 2021
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    I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" made about the 90s, though in reality
    they'll

    stuff it up and make it 'woke'.

    I'm not sure the changes from the 90s to the 20s are as significant as the changes from the 60s to the 90s.

    That is sort of where I was going. If they are targeting people who
    can remember the late 1960's, their audience is going to be much
    smaller than those who can remember the 1990's.

    I half expect they will stuff it up, even being set in the late '60's,
    and make it "woke." I hope not but we will see.

    The best depiction of the 90's, at least the first part as I experienced it captured in a movie was an Australian movie called "The Castle". That was set not far from where I live, and captured what it was like back then quite accurately.

    I've seen depictions of the 80s today and it is different to how it actually was. Synthwave is a good example. OBviously 80's inspired, but actually very little like anything from the 80s.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Moondog on Wed Sep 22 16:57:00 2021
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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to JIMMY ANDERSON
    on Tue Sep 21 2021 08:41 am

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 2021 10:08 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Nightfox

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane
    films


    Ahh, the Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker movies. My favourite comedies. Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Airplane in my opinion is the best comedy movie I've ever seen.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Wed Sep 22 08:20:07 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Wed Sep 22 2021 04:52 pm

    maybe they can have a family and the boy wants to be a girl and dresses like one. maybe all of the kids can be like that and have hormone injections.

    And a blonde wife with a black husband, because that is so edgy and would trigger the conservatives you know.


    yeah he can talk about how big his dick is and his wife would work 2 jobs when she wasnt pregnant. then he'd play with guns when sitting on the couch smoking weed.

    i think i'm onto something here. maybe i should pitch this idea.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Wed Sep 22 08:40:23 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 21 2021 07:57 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane films

    That's what I've heard.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Sep 22 09:16:23 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 21 2021 09:33 pm

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane
    films

    i dont think nightfox would get that type of comedy. he takes everything literal.

    That's actually some of my favorite type of comedy. Airplane and Naked Gun are some of my favorite movies.

    The producers of Airplane also made Top Secret and Hot Shots, which are a couple other of my favorite comedy movies.

    I miss movies like that.. Seems like they don't make movies with that kind of humor anymore.

    If you think I don't get that humor, I don't think you know me very well.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Wed Sep 22 09:16:57 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Wed Sep 22 2021 04:57 pm

    Ahh, the Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker movies. My favourite comedies. Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Airplane in my opinion is the best comedy movie I've ever seen.

    I agree. Their movies are some of my favorite comedies. It seems like they don't make movies like that anymore.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Boraxman on Wed Sep 22 08:45:00 2021
    Hello Boraxman;

    Boraxman wrote to Moondog <=-

    Ahh, the Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker movies. My favourite comedies.
    Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Police Squad! In Color! wasn't a movie series, it was a 30 minute TV series
    to which it only lasted 6 episodes. Worth watching though!



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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to DUMAS WALKER on Wed Sep 22 12:04:00 2021
    Quoting Dumas Walker to The Lizard Master <=-

    So it is also set in the late 1960's - early 1970's? Good luck
    getting younger folks to watch.

    Not all entertainment needs to be geared toward the "younger folks" We
    old folks like to be entertained too. :-)



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wed Sep 22 20:04:00 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 21 2021 09:33 pm

    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Sep 21 2021 07:56 pm


    You must not have seen the series "Black-ish." It ran for seven years, a dealt with an upper class black family who didn't fit the stereotype.

    nope never heard of it. and it looks like it had several actors i liked.
    it got canceled because of bad ratings.

    i'll download and episode and see what it's like.

    Seven seasons is still a good run. Some shows never make it past the 15 episode test run.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Sep 23 03:04:30 2021
    Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 22 2021 08:04 pm

    i'll download and episode and see what it's like.

    Seven seasons is still a good run. Some shows never make it past the 15 episode test run.

    usually it's about the advertisers. there's been some great shows that were canned because they couldnt make that money.


    there's a lot of bad shows that went on too long.
    dexter, king of queens, bones, full house, true blood, 7th heaven, family guy, the simpsons, smallville.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 23 17:37:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    Hello Boraxman;

    Boraxman wrote to Moondog <=-

    Ahh, the Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker movies. My favourite comedies.
    Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Police Squad! In Color! wasn't a movie series, it was a 30 minute TV series to which it only lasted 6 episodes. Worth watching though!


    I'll have to try and find it then! I knew it was a series, but I'm a little surprised it was only 6 episodes. That might explain how it was that I missed it then. You often can find episodes of shows on YouTube, otherwise I'm happy to buy a boxed DVD set. You can't go wrong with ZAZ comedies from that era.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Thu Sep 23 17:45:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue
    Sep 21 2021 09:33 pm

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane
    films

    i dont think nightfox would get that type of comedy. he takes everything literal.

    That's actually some of my favorite type of comedy. Airplane and Naked Gun are some of my favorite movies.

    The producers of Airplane also made Top Secret and Hot Shots, which are
    a couple other of my favorite comedy movies.

    I miss movies like that.. Seems like they don't make movies with that kind of humor anymore.

    If you think I don't get that humor, I don't think you know me very
    well.

    I think what I liked about them, and what you don't find much, is they didn't take themselves seriously. They were wacky, but very much so. For example, in Airplane they say "light the runway" or something like that, and you see someone dump lamps on to it. They would do anything for a visual gag, it didn't have to concord with reality or have any continuity. The gags were thrown in just for laughs.

    Comedies now are more, well, conservative. Some are 'screwball', but they kind of still take themselves too seriously. Modern Family I think is a good example. It tries to be quirky, but it just ends up being characters with particular mannerisms and affectations. There are some modern shows which I think still have this element, Family Guy is one, where something completely wacky will happen for a gag, though that show tends to overplay it a little. Malcom in the Middle, maybe, but I can't think of many or any movies like that. It seems there is too much concern about things making sense, about conforming with reality.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 08:43:38 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Thu Sep 23 2021 05:45 pm

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane
    films

    I think what I liked about them, and what you don't find much, is they didn't take themselves seriously. They were wacky, but very much so. For example, in Airplane they say "light the runway" or something like that, and you see someone dump lamps on to it. They would do anything for a visual gag, it didn't have to concord with reality or have any continuity. The gags were thrown in just for laughs.

    Yes, I think that's what made those movies great. Also in Airplane, when they're taking off: "You have clearance, Clarence." "Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?" It's full of gags.

    There's little things here and there in those movies too. In Hot Shots, there's a scene where it shows the name of a ship written on the side of the ship, which is the SS Essess.

    Comedies now are more, well, conservative. Some are 'screwball', but they kind of still take themselves too seriously. Modern Family I think is a good example. It tries to be quirky, but it just ends up being characters with particular mannerisms and affectations. There are some modern shows which I think still have this element, Family Guy is one, where something completely wacky will happen for a gag, though that show tends to overplay it a little. Malcom in the Middle, maybe, but I can't think of many or any movies like that. It seems there is too much concern about things making sense, about conforming with reality.

    I haven't seen Modern Family. I actually haven't seen a whole lot of TV these days, but there are some shows these days that I like. I've seen a couple episodes of Family Guy and thought it was funny, but I think I'd agree it might overplay things a little.

    The Orville is a newer show that I like. It's created by Seth Macfarlane, who also made Family Guy, so I think it has some of the same type of humor. I like the wacky humor on the show. One of my favorite episodes was when they discovered a time capsule from the early 21st century (The Orville is set in the 2400s). One thing they discover from the time capsule is cigarettes, and a couple of the characters (Bortus and Clyden) start smoking, for comedic effect. The scene with Bortus casually smoking a cigarette on the bridge was one of the funny moments..

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 10:23:00 2021
    Hello Boraxman;

    Boraxman wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I'll have to try and find it then! I knew it was a series, but I'm a little surprised it was only 6 episodes. That might explain how it was that I missed it then. You often can find episodes of shows on
    YouTube, otherwise I'm happy to buy a boxed DVD set. You can't go
    wrong with ZAZ comedies from that era.

    They're on Youtube. One user posted all 6 together. Each opening and closing
    is different... you'll enjoy the ZAZ humor. I'm surprised it didn't work for TV.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Fri Sep 17 07:49:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Ogg <=-

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if
    it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    "What's a phone book?"



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 07:52:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    And also Airplane!, or Blazing Saddles..

    The clean version of Blazing Saddles is missing every racial slur, the
    farting around the campfire scene (they kept the scene and removed the
    sound, so they all sort of lift one leg and sit back down, silently)

    And, worst of all, changed the name of Lily Von Schtupp! She's Lily Von Sht<silence> on the broadcast version. Must be a german on the FCC board.

    It's a nice watch, clocks in at around 11 minutes.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sat Sep 18 07:35:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    There's also the scene where the 2 kids are talking and the girl says
    how she likes her coffee.. And the scene where the airplane pilot is asking the boy suggestive questions..

    Removing Captain Oveur and Joey's scene would be a crime.




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BORAXMAN on Thu Sep 23 13:14:00 2021
    I've seen depictions of the 80s today and it is different to how it actually was. Synthwave is a good example. OBviously 80's inspired, but actually very
    little like anything from the 80s.

    Some of the shows/movies set in previous times do better at capturing that
    time than others. Some seem to go over-the-top, sticking to the cliche
    trends of the era for humor. Like lots of big hair for the 1980's. Yes,
    that was a thing, but not every woman (or man) had big hair. :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ELF on Thu Sep 23 13:17:00 2021
    So it is also set in the late 1960's - early 1970's? Good luck
    getting younger folks to watch.

    Not all entertainment needs to be geared toward the "younger folks" We
    old folks like to be entertained too. :-)

    OH, I agree. It just narrows their audience some, especially if they
    expect it to do well on any streaming platforms. :)

    I actually enjoy entertainment that is set in times I was not alive for.
    For example, I have enjoyed shows like "Mad Men," "The Hour," and
    "Endeavour," all which were set in the 1960's/late-1950's. I enjoy
    historical fiction in general.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Sep 23 13:51:29 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brian Rogers on Fri Sep 17 2021 07:49 am

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received
    if it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    "What's a phone book?"

    A book of.. phones? Oh wait...

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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 16:50:15 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 23 2021 17:37:00

    Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Police Squad! In Color! wasn't a movie series, it was a 30 minute TV
    series to which it only lasted 6 episodes. Worth watching though!


    I'll have to try and find it then! I knew it was a series, but I'm a little surprised it was only 6 episodes. That might explain how it was that I missed it then. You often can find episodes of shows on YouTube, otherwise I'm happy to buy a boxed DVD set. You can't go wrong with ZAZ comedies from that era.

    It IS available on YouTube. At least here in the US it is.

    It was a very Campy Police Comedy, but then what would you expect when it stared Leslie Neilson (from Airplane).
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Thu Sep 23 17:25:57 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 2021 08:43 am

    I haven't seen Modern Family. I actually haven't seen a whole lot of TV these days, but there are some shows these days that I like. I've seen a

    It gets a little long in the tooth, but the earl seasons and the series as a whole is very good.

    The Orville is a newer show that I like. It's created by Seth Macfarlane, who also made Family Guy, so I think it has some of the same type of humor. I like the wacky humor on the show. One of my favorite episodes was when they discovered a time capsule from the early 21st century (The Orville is set in the 2400s). One thing they discover from the time capsule is cigarettes, and a couple of the characters (Bortus and Clyden) start smoking, for comedic effect. The scene with Bortus casually smoking a cigarette on the bridge was one of the funny moments..

    Just watched that last night with my daughter on our rewatch getting ready for the new season! Although it will still be a little bit - https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOrville/comments/ptz3gi/new_season_starts_march_10_2022/?context=3

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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Nightfox on Thu Sep 23 17:39:58 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Sep 23 2021 13:51:29

    "What's a phone book?"
    A book of.. phones? Oh wait...

    I thought it was a book ABOUT phones.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 16:47:40 2021
    On 9/21/2021 11:52 PM, Boraxman wrote:
    maybe they can have a family and the boy wants to be a girl and dresses
    like one. maybe all of the kids can be like that and have hormone
    injections.

    And a blonde wife with a black husband, because that is so edgy and would trigger the conservatives you know.

    Most conservatives I know wouldn't give a damn. Are there racists out
    there? Absolutely. The fact is every political party has them, and they
    come in all shapes and colors.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 24 03:06:11 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Tracker1 to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 2021 04:47 pm

    On 9/21/2021 11:52 PM, Boraxman wrote:
    maybe they can have a family and the boy wants to be a girl and dresses >> like one. maybe all of the kids can be like that and have hormone
    injections.

    And a blonde wife with a black husband, because that is so edgy and would trigger the conservatives you know.

    Most conservatives I know wouldn't give a damn. Are there racists out
    there? Absolutely. The fact is every political party has them, and they
    come in all shapes and colors.

    From an image I recently found on the Internet:

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism."

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Fri Sep 24 15:27:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on
    Thu Sep 23 2021 05:45 pm

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane
    films

    I think what I liked about them, and what you don't find much, is they didn't take themselves seriously. They were wacky, but very much so. For example, in Airplane they say "light the runway" or something like that, and you see someone dump lamps on to it. They would do anything for a visual gag, it didn't have to concord with reality or have any continuity. The gags were thrown in just for laughs.

    Yes, I think that's what made those movies great. Also in Airplane,
    when they're taking off: "You have clearance, Clarence." "Roger, Roger.
    What's our vector, Victor?" It's full of gags.

    There's little things here and there in those movies too. In Hot
    Shots, there's a scene where it shows the name of a ship written on the side of the ship, which is the SS Essess.

    Comedies now are more, well, conservative. Some are 'screwball', but they kind of still take themselves too seriously. Modern Family I think is a good example. It tries to be quirky, but it just ends up being characters with particular mannerisms and affectations. There are some modern shows which I think still have this element, Family Guy is one, where something completely wacky will happen for a gag, though that show tends to overplay it a little. Malcom in the Middle, maybe, but I can't think of many or any movies like that. It seems there is too much concern about things making sense, about conforming with reality.

    I haven't seen Modern Family. I actually haven't seen a whole lot of
    TV these days, but there are some shows these days that I like. I've
    seen a couple episodes of Family Guy and thought it was funny, but I
    think I'd agree it might overplay things a little.

    The Orville is a newer show that I like. It's created by Seth
    Macfarlane, who also made Family Guy, so I think it has some of the
    same type of humor. I like the wacky humor on the show. One of my favorite episodes was when they discovered a time capsule from the
    early 21st century (The Orville is set in the 2400s). One thing they discover from the time capsule is cigarettes, and a couple of the characters (Bortus and Clyden) start smoking, for comedic effect. The scene with Bortus casually smoking a cigarette on the bridge was one of the funny moments..

    Never heard of that show, but I'll keep an eye out. Seth McFarlane is quite talented.

    Modern Family seemed to get rave reviews, but I couldn't get into it. I watched maybe one episode, part of another and found it irritating. It had that 'hand held camera' fly on the wall style cinematography, and the characters were acting is if they were people playing characters. Kind of similar to how many people actaully are, where they put on a persona. The humour was lacking, and to me, there weren't jokes or anything witty, we were supposed to laugh at HOW they were acting.

    All a bit underwhelming.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Fri Sep 24 15:34:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brian
    Rogers on Fri Sep 17 2021 07:49 am

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received
    if it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    "What's a phone book?"

    A book of.. phones? Oh wait...

    It's the version of Facebook, but specifically designed for mobiles.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 24 09:04:27 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Tracker1 to Boraxman on Thu Sep 23 2021 04:47 pm

    Most conservatives I know wouldn't give a damn. Are there racists out
    there? Absolutely. The fact is every political party has them, and they
    come in all shapes and colors.

    i judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. we should get rid of these destructive labels.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 09:05:14 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Arelor to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 24 2021 03:06 am

    From an image I recently found on the Internet:

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism."


    you cant get rid of racism by saying no. you have to ignore it. giving it attention gives it strength. ignore it into obscurity.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Fri Sep 24 08:55:22 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Fri Sep 24 2021 03:27 pm

    The Orville is a newer show that I like. It's created by Seth

    Never heard of that show, but I'll keep an eye out. Seth McFarlane is quite talented.

    The Orville started in 2017.. Haven't heard anything of it in the last 4 years?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Fri Sep 24 09:04:40 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 2021 09:05 am

    you cant get rid of racism by saying no. you have to ignore it. giving it attention gives it strength. ignore it into obscurity.

    That's what I've been thinking more and more.. It seems that by talking about racism, we keep bringing attention to it, and racism keeps being a thing.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri Sep 24 11:16:01 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 2021 09:05 am

    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Arelor to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 24 2021 03:06 am

    From an image I recently found on the Internet:

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism


    you cant get rid of racism by saying no. you have to ignore it. giving it attention gives it strength. ignore it into obscurity.


    Well, I found then image hillarious. It implies that if you are "Black" or "Yellow" you are not a normal person.

    They posted it at a Spanish website and the comments were golden. My favourite was:

    "Thank God we normal people are slowly learning to treat those dreadful multicolored scumbags as humans."

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Sep 24 12:21:19 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 24 2021 09:04 am

    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 2021 09:05 am

    you cant get rid of racism by saying no. you have to ignore it. giving it attention gives it strength. ignore it into obscurity.

    That's what I've been thinking more and more.. It seems that by talking about racism, we keep bringing attention to it, and racism keeps being a thing.


    look how much money people are making off of it. those BLM people took all that money and used it on houses and other shit.

    think about how much money the news networks are making now. newspapers and other forms of media are making bank now when before they didnt.

    people going after people is good for their business.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 12:22:02 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Arelor to MRO on Fri Sep 24 2021 11:16 am

    Well, I found then image hillarious. It implies that if you are "Black" or "Yellow" you are not a normal person.

    They posted it at a Spanish website and the comments were golden. My favourite was:

    "Thank God we normal people are slowly learning to treat those dreadful multicolored scumbags as humans."


    oh i missed that part. someone needed a proof reader.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 07:49:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism."

    Wow.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 24 14:55:00 2021
    Hello poindexter;

    "What's a phone book?"

    Nevermind that, what's a phone BOOTH?? <G>
    I said that mistakenly to a gen z person and they cocked their head like
    a confused dog LOL

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to MRO on Fri Sep 24 15:07:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    i judge people by the content of their character, not the color of
    their skin. we should get rid of these destructive labels.


    Absolutely! It's just like that energy thing that was on the starship enterprise on the original series and it kept getting the crew against themselves because it fed off of the fear it installed. Racism is very
    parallel in that the more attention it gets the more it breeds.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 25 04:50:13 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Sep 24 2021 07:49 am

    Arelor wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism."

    Wow.



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Sat Sep 25 18:21:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

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    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Arelor to Tracker1 on
    Fri Sep 24 2021 03:06 am

    From an image I recently found on the Internet:

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism."


    you cant get rid of racism by saying no. you have to ignore it. giving
    it attention gives it strength. ignore it into obscurity.

    I don't think it is that simple. Humans by nature are tribal. You can choose to ignore yours, but you'll be in a weaker position with regards to those who don't ignore theirs.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Sat Sep 25 07:28:22 2021
    Re: Re: The Wonder Years
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat Sep 25 2021 06:21 pm


    you cant get rid of racism by saying no. you have to ignore it. giving it attention gives it strength. ignore it into obscurity.

    I don't think it is that simple. Humans by nature are tribal. You can choose to ignore yours, but you'll be in a weaker position with regards to those who don't ignore theirs.


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Zombie Mambo on Fri Oct 1 15:07:22 2021
    Is it me or are movies just completely boring now?

    Another Fast and Furious? Boooooooooooring.
    Another superhero film? Seriously.... cmon.
    How aboutan awesome adventure movie? Harrison Ford is getting too old.

    And anything that seems out of the ordinary from the typical movie is probably made by netflix and has some underlying political theme regarding racism, transphobia, or right-wing hate.

    Why can't we just have another cool WAR GAMES or EXPLORERS or LAST STARFIGHTER or hell, LAST DRAGON... Not a remake, not a reboot, something new and different.

    I had high hopes for Ready Player One because the book was decent but nope. I think Sandler's Pixels was more fun.

    Thanks,
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    I would have to agree. The new movies are getting boring. I think Hollywood has run out of gas it seems. It's all about quantity not quality like it used to be.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 2 09:07:00 2021
    Hello "Mr. Howell" :)

    The Millionaire wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-

    I would have to agree. The new movies are getting boring. I think Hollywood has run out of gas it seems. It's all about quantity not
    quality like it used to be.

    $ The Millionaire $

    +1

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Thu Oct 14 14:44:00 2021
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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Sep 20 2021 10:08 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Was only 6 episodes, and done by the same guys that did Airplane.
    The public just didn't get it... Was too dry...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to BRIAN ROGERS on Thu Oct 14 14:46:00 2021
    BRIAN ROGERS wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I think it and Blazing Saddles just simply wouldn't be made
    today. And I think they are both hilarious!

    People today have forgotten how to laugh at themselves which is an important thing to survive in today's world. After all if you can't
    laugh at yourself you have no business laughing at others.

    Yep - people just want to get offended now.






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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to BRIAN ROGERS on Thu Oct 14 14:46:00 2021
    BRIAN ROGERS wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    But that's the whole point - they were so non sequitor. :-) And Joey didn't even pay attention, so you could say it's a statement on how
    kids don't actually pick up on 'adult conversation.' :-)

    Back then perhaps but in today's school "literature", they teach young teens and tweens about things such as homosexuality and anal sex. I
    always thought those were things that would land you in prison - not today... but you can't use that sort of humor in movies.

    True.

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    Haven't heard that in a while. :-)



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to MOONDOG on Thu Oct 14 14:48:00 2021
    MOONDOG wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    The Naked Gun movies were based off it. Same gag humor as Airplane
    films

    In my opinion, the Naked Gun moves were NOT nearly as funny... They
    were not dry enough.



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to BORAXMAN on Thu Oct 14 14:49:00 2021
    BORAXMAN wrote to MOONDOG <=-

    Ahh, the Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker movies. My favourite comedies.
    Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Airplane in my opinion is the best comedy movie I've ever seen.

    Then you should VERY much look it up! I bought the DVD a few years
    ago...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Thu Oct 14 14:52:00 2021
    NIGHTFOX wrote to <=-

    That's actually some of my favorite type of comedy. Airplane and Naked Gun are some of my favorite movies.

    The producers of Airplane also made Top Secret and Hot Shots, which are
    a couple other of my favorite comedy movies.

    Yeah, they were both great too!

    I miss movies like that.. Seems like they don't make movies with that kind of humor anymore.

    The Scary Movie series was okay, but didn't quite get to the same level...



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Oct 14 14:56:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    It makes you wonder how Steve Martin's "The Jerk" would be received if
    it was a new movie out in the theaters today...

    "What's a phone book?"

    LOL - very good point :-)





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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Oct 14 14:57:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    And also Airplane!, or Blazing Saddles..

    The clean version of Blazing Saddles is missing every racial slur, the farting around the campfire scene (they kept the scene and removed the sound, so they all sort of lift one leg and sit back down, silently)

    And, worst of all, changed the name of Lily Von Schtupp! She's Lily Von Sht<silence> on the broadcast version. Must be a german on the FCC
    board.

    Had to google the definition - LOL - I appreciate the name more now. :-)

    It's a nice watch, clocks in at around 11 minutes.

    LOL



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ARELOR on Thu Oct 14 15:02:00 2021
    ARELOR wrote to TRACKER1 <=-

    From an image I recently found on the Internet:

    "It does not matter if you are black, yellow, or normal. Say no to racism."

    That's funny - have to be careful who you tell it to though. LOL

    Kinda like the advertisement I saw once for some new shirts that say,
    and I quote, "THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO GENDERS." Of course the ad
    was proud to say that they come in both men and women. :-)





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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Oct 25 08:44:32 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Thu Oct 14 2021 02:44 pm

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Was only 6 episodes, and done by the same guys that did Airplane.
    The public just didn't get it... Was too dry...

    I heard the Naked Gun movies were based on Police Squad.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Oct 25 08:45:27 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Thu Oct 14 2021 02:52 pm

    The producers of Airplane also made Top Secret and Hot Shots, which
    are a couple other of my favorite comedy movies.

    I miss movies like that.. Seems like they don't make movies with
    that kind of humor anymore.

    The Scary Movie series was okay, but didn't quite get to the same level...

    I never associated the Scary Movie series with movies like Airplane, etc..

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Oct 26 08:33:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON;

    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    Yep - people just want to get offended now.

    Unfortunately you're quite correct. Watch some old Laugh-In episodes. They'd never last in today's world.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Tue Oct 26 14:25:00 2021
    NIGHTFOX wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Did you ever watch Police Squad! In Color!

    I've hard of it, but I haven't seen it.

    Was only 6 episodes, and done by the same guys that did Airplane.
    The public just didn't get it... Was too dry...

    I heard the Naked Gun movies were based on Police Squad.

    Loosly, IMHO... The main actor was the same, and his charecter
    was the same guy, but everyone else was different. OJ Simpson
    played Norbergh (sp?) but was a different actor on the television
    show.

    Also - the television show was a parady of the episodic shows of
    the 70's & 80's - Streets of San Francisco, Kojack, Rockford
    Files, etc. Naked Gun was more of a general comedy with some
    parody thrown in.




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Tue Oct 26 14:27:00 2021
    NIGHTFOX wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    The producers of Airplane also made Top Secret and Hot Shots, which
    are a couple other of my favorite comedy movies.

    I miss movies like that.. Seems like they don't make movies with
    that kind of humor anymore.

    The Scary Movie series was okay, but didn't quite get to the same level...

    I never associated the Scary Movie series with movies like Airplane,
    etc..

    Only in that they were parodies of a particular genre and even had some elements that were parodies of SPECIFIC movies of those genres. Airplane
    was the same, to a degree, but SO so much 'better' (subjective term, I know, just giving my opinion).




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed Oct 27 04:19:37 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Tue Oct 26 2021 02:25 pm

    played Norbergh (sp?) but was a different actor on the television
    show.

    Also - the television show was a parady of the episodic shows of
    the 70's & 80's - Streets of San Francisco, Kojack, Rockford
    Files, etc. Naked Gun was more of a general comedy with some
    parody thrown in.

    police squad wasn't really a good tv show, later on they honed their comedy.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Brian Rogers on Wed Oct 27 07:13:01 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Brian Rogers to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Oct 26 2021 08:33 am

    Yep - people just want to get offended now.

    Unfortunately you're quite correct. Watch some old Laugh-In episodes. They'd never last in today's world.

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in the Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Brian Rogers on Wed Oct 27 08:31:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Unfortunately you're quite correct. Watch some old Laugh-In episodes. They'd never last in today's world.

    Laugh-In was VERY timely.

    I remember seeing some episodes when I was a kid and I didn't get some of the more political jokes. Today, I watch the same episodes and I still don't get some of the political jokes because the politics of the time are long gone.

    What I find interesting is that when they were first broadcast, they were offensive to the "right". Today they are offensive to the "left".


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to HUSTLER on Thu Oct 28 08:48:00 2021
    HUSTLER wrote to BRIAN ROGERS <=-

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in the Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

    The interesting thing about All in the Family, people like to mention it
    as 'offensive' but Archie was usually the BUTT of the 'issues' and moral discussion. It was actually very progressive, IMO.





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  • From HusTler@VERT/XBITBBS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Oct 28 10:31:55 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to HUSTLER on Thu Oct 28 2021 08:48 am

    The interesting thing about All in the Family, people like to mention it
    as 'offensive' but Archie was usually the BUTT of the 'issues' and moral discussion. It was actually very progressive, IMO.

    Very Progressive! Things were said that nobody else could. That show wouldn't't
    last a month in today's world. Not on network TV anyway. Jefferson was the "equalizer". I think any type of name calling is prohibited these days.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to HusTler on Thu Oct 28 08:55:00 2021
    Hello HusTler;

    HusTler wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in the Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

    Back in the late 60's and 70's we all had much thicker skin and could appreciate
    humor for the wit that was used to create it, not for any sort of hatred that it was NOT intended for.

    Today people seem to look for things to hate about just so they can spread hate while trying to justify their behaviors due to the simple words someone may say.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dr. What on Thu Oct 28 09:01:00 2021
    Hello Dr. What;

    Dr. What wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Laugh-In was VERY timely.

    Many shows of that era were. I suppose that's what made them so classic.

    I remember seeing some episodes when I was a kid and I didn't get some
    of the more political jokes. Today, I watch the same episodes and I
    still don't get some of the political jokes because the politics of the time are long gone.

    Most of the political jokes as you say I didn't get as a kid but I do get most of them now. Another show which was like that was the old Rocky & Bullwinkle toons! The lines were one right after another after another... most of which
    as a kid I didn't quite understand but if I can catch an episode here and
    there the humor was almost overkill... and that was animated!

    What I find interesting is that when they were first broadcast, they
    were offensive to the "right". Today they are offensive to the "left".

    I actually thought they were fairly decent at being pretty neutral all things considered for the era.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Brian Rogers on Fri Oct 29 12:35:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to HusTler <=-

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    Hello HusTler;

    HusTler wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in the Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

    Back in the late 60's and 70's we all had much thicker skin and could appreciate
    humor for the wit that was used to create it, not for any sort of
    hatred that it was NOT intended for.

    Today people seem to look for things to hate about just so they can
    spread hate while trying to justify their behaviors due to the simple words someone may say.

    I think it's only a minority of people who are thin skinned. The difference is that in the 70's people didn't listen to the crazies, now they do. Companies are bending towards a vocal minority because the mid-wits that staff them are out of touch and don't realise that 10 flouro-haird nutcases on Twitter don't represent the world at large.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Boraxman on Fri Oct 29 19:23:00 2021
    Hello Boraxman;

    Boraxman wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I think it's only a minority of people who are thin skinned. The difference is that in the 70's people didn't listen to the crazies, now they do. Companies are bending towards a vocal minority because the mid-wits that staff them are out of touch and don't realise that 10 flouro-haird nutcases on Twitter don't represent the world at large.

    I totally agree! These days they make the minority a majority which is so
    very wrong... at least from what I know anyway. Sad but that sums things
    up good. Well said!

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Sat Oct 30 10:25:00 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on Fri Oct 29 2021 12:35 pm

    Brian Rogers wrote to HusTler <=-

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    @REPLY: <6179424D.34243.dove-ent@pharcyde.org>
    Hello HusTler;

    HusTler wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in the Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

    Back in the late 60's and 70's we all had much thicker skin and could appreciate
    humor for the wit that was used to create it, not for any sort of hatred that it was NOT intended for.

    Today people seem to look for things to hate about just so they can spread hate while trying to justify their behaviors due to the simple words someone may say.

    I think it's only a minority of people who are thin skinned. The difference that in the 70's people didn't listen to the crazies, now they do. Companie are bending towards a vocal minority because the mid-wits that staff them ar out of touch and don't realise that 10 flouro-haird nutcases on Twitter don' represent the world at large.

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    I agree. The thin skinned folks are a small but vocal minority that not only speak out alot, but also know which channels of coomunication work the best. Prohibition was thought up by a small gorup that was against alcohol, and had larger sponsors such as Henry Ford. No politician would say publicly that
    they were against prohibition because that would've been spread through the newspapers and radio, in effect leadign to shame and a primitive form of cancelling.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Moondog on Mon Nov 1 22:08:00 2021
    Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on
    Fri Oct 29 2021 12:35 pm

    Brian Rogers wrote to HusTler <=-

    @MSGID: <617ABA9E.907.dove-ent@bbs.n1uro.com>
    @REPLY: <6179424D.34243.dove-ent@pharcyde.org>
    Hello HusTler;

    HusTler wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in the Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

    Back in the late 60's and 70's we all had much thicker skin and could appreciate
    humor for the wit that was used to create it, not for any sort of hatred that it was NOT intended for.

    Today people seem to look for things to hate about just so they can spread hate while trying to justify their behaviors due to the simple words someone may say.

    I think it's only a minority of people who are thin skinned. The difference that in the 70's people didn't listen to the crazies, now they do. Companie are bending towards a vocal minority because the mid-wits that staff them ar out of touch and don't realise that 10 flouro-haird nutcases on Twitter don' represent the world at large.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

    I agree. The thin skinned folks are a small but vocal minority that
    not only speak out alot, but also know which channels of coomunication work the best. Prohibition was thought up by a small gorup that was against alcohol, and had larger sponsors such as Henry Ford. No politician would say publicly that they were against prohibition
    because that would've been spread through the newspapers and radio, in effect leadign to shame and a primitive form of cancelling.

    Who would have thought prohibitionists would look like the way Wokesters look today, but here we are. They are the prohibitionists of the modern era.

    I have stopped caring whether someone thinks I'm 'bigoted' or not. If you don't care what these people think, they lose power. Instead of debating them, trying to debunk them, we should just laugh at them. Laugh and mock and most importantly, NOT take them seriously.

    This is what irks me about conservatives. They take them seriously, they argue with them, which gives them the gravitas they need to survive.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Mon Nov 1 18:28:33 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Nov 01 2021 10:08 pm

    politician would say publicly that they were against prohibition because that would've been spread through the newspapers and radio, in effect leadign to shame and a primitive form of cancelling.

    Who would have thought prohibitionists would look like the way Wokesters look today, but here we are. They are the prohibitionists of the modern era.


    prohibition was a crock of shit. you could buy old forrester, a whiskey in the pharmacy in the usa. bars still served beer in some cases.
    in some cases you could serve alcohol if it was with food.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Mon Nov 1 20:22:00 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Nov 01 2021 10:08 pm

    Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on
    Fri Oct 29 2021 12:35 pm

    Brian Rogers wrote to HusTler <=-

    @MSGID: <617ABA9E.907.dove-ent@bbs.n1uro.com>
    @REPLY: <6179424D.34243.dove-ent@pharcyde.org>
    Hello HusTler;

    HusTler wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    How did "Laugh-In" get away with that stuff? Then there's All in th Family. These shows would be constantly in the courts.

    Back in the late 60's and 70's we all had much thicker skin and coul appreciate
    humor for the wit that was used to create it, not for any sort of hatred that it was NOT intended for.

    Today people seem to look for things to hate about just so they can spread hate while trying to justify their behaviors due to the simpl words someone may say.

    I think it's only a minority of people who are thin skinned. The differe that in the 70's people didn't listen to the crazies, now they do. Compa are bending towards a vocal minority because the mid-wits that staff them out of touch and don't realise that 10 flouro-haird nutcases on Twitter d represent the world at large.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

    I agree. The thin skinned folks are a small but vocal minority that not only speak out alot, but also know which channels of coomunication work the best. Prohibition was thought up by a small gorup that was against alcohol, and had larger sponsors such as Henry Ford. No politician would say publicly that they were against prohibition because that would've been spread through the newspapers and radio, in effect leadign to shame and a primitive form of cancelling.

    Who would have thought prohibitionists would look like the way Wokesters loo today, but here we are. They are the prohibitionists of the modern era.

    I have stopped caring whether someone thinks I'm 'bigoted' or not. If you don't care what these people think, they lose power. Instead of debating th trying to debunk them, we should just laugh at them. Laugh and mock and mos importantly, NOT take them seriously.

    This is what irks me about conservatives. They take them seriously, they ar with them, which gives them the gravitas they need to survive.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tue Nov 2 21:39:00 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Mon Nov 01 2021 06:28 pm

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Nov 01 2021 10:08 pm

    politician would say publicly that they were against prohibition because that would've been spread through the newspapers and radio, effect leadign to shame and a primitive form of cancelling.

    Who would have thought prohibitionists would look like the way Wokesters look today, but here we are. They are the prohibitionists of the modern era.


    prohibition was a crock of shit. you could buy old forrester, a whiskey in in some cases you could serve alcohol if it was with food.

    Liquor could be provided for free as part of an entertainment event. One speakeasy was called the "blind pig" because people would pay to see an attraction known as the blind pig. See the pig, get a drink.

    There were loads of ways to game the system, which showed how the populace
    was against prohibition, but still had to endure the law.

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Boraxman on Fri Nov 19 14:35:00 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 23 2021 06:37 pm

    Brian Rogers wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    Hello Boraxman;

    Boraxman wrote to Moondog <=-

    Ahh, the Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker movies. My favourite comedies. Never have seen Police Squad!, but I'd really like to.

    Police Squad! In Color! wasn't a movie series, it was a 30 minute TV series to which it only lasted 6 episodes. Worth watching though!


    I'll have to try and find it then! I knew it was a series, but I'm a little surprised it was only 6 episodes. That might explain how it was that I miss it then. You often can find episodes of shows on YouTube, otherwise I'm hap to buy a boxed DVD set. You can't go wrong with ZAZ comedies from that era.

    Sorry old post. I am behind but I did come across Police Squad for the first time on Youtube and thought it was great. Here is a link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2_tJIgfnDA

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Nopants on Fri Nov 19 14:27:36 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nopants to Boraxman on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:35 pm

    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 23 2021 06:37 pm

    Sorry old post. I am behind but I did come across Police Squad for the

    Prepare for those who like to complain about necro-posting.

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat Nov 20 06:41:56 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to Nopants on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:27 pm

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nopants to Boraxman on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:35 pm

    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 23 2021 06:37 pm

    Sorry old post. I am behind but I did come across Police Squad for the

    Prepare for those who like to complain about necro-posting.

    Nightfox


    I don't mind necroposting. I just love complaining about it. Totally different things :-)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Nov 20 13:26:31 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to Nopants on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:27 pm

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nopants to Boraxman on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:35 pm

    By: Boraxman to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 23 2021 06:37 pm

    Sorry old post. I am behind but I did come across Police Squad for the

    Prepare for those who like to complain about necro-posting.

    Nightfox

    you're the guy that complains about the complaining.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sat Nov 20 13:28:02 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat Nov 20 2021 06:41 am


    Nightfox


    I don't mind necroposting. I just love complaining about it. Totally different things :-)


    there's a time and a place for it.

    nightfox just mistakes someone not knowing how to update their msg pointers with someone who is just digging up old shit because they are lazy.

    and there's the guys who go away for 3+ months and start replying to all the old shit. i dont think that's right. read it but update your msg pointers if you take a long vacation from msg networks.
    everything that could have been talked about in that time already has been talked about.

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Nightfox on Sat Nov 20 11:37:00 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to Nopants on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:27 pm

    Sorry old post. I am behind but I did come across Police Squad for the

    Prepare for those who like to complain about necro-posting.

    Nightfox
    I brought the links. Complainers should watch those 9 epiodes of Police Squad and stfu. You're welcome ;)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nopants on Sat Nov 20 18:52:07 2021
    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nopants to Nightfox on Sat Nov 20 2021 11:37 am

    Re: Re: state of movies
    By: Nightfox to Nopants on Fri Nov 19 2021 02:27 pm

    Sorry old post. I am behind but I did come across Police Squad for the

    Prepare for those who like to complain about necro-posting.

    Nightfox
    I brought the links. Complainers should watch those 9 epiodes of Police Squad and stfu. You're welcome ;)

    i dont think people could sit through 2 episodes of police squad.

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