• Covid Delta

    From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Sun Aug 1 18:43:34 2021
    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to HusTler on Mon Aug 2 00:28:52 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 01 2021 18:43:34

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    In Korea here. We have the benefit of relatively homogenous society and not many conspiracy nuts, so mask compliance has been near-perfect since it started. Consistently low case numbers compared to most of the world. Unfortunately the government totally screwed up the vaccination
    roll-out ("Our case numbers are low, so we can wait for the prices to drop before
    ordering vaccines!", oops!). I'm pretty sure it's still less than 30% of the population that's vaccinated.

    I'm still hopeful that the end is coming soon. I'm not super worried about all the variants. If a virus is not contagious enough, it dies out. If it's too deadly, it dies out. Etc. etc. Viruses mutate a lot and they almost always mutate themselves out of existence pretty quickly. Maybe Delta will prove me wrong, but my money is on COVID-19 not being such a serious problem once
    most people are vaccinated.

    I would like to see progress on vaccines for kids. Daycares and schools and things are still a sticky issue since we still can't vaccinate anyone under 12.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Mon Aug 2 05:14:20 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 01 2021 06:43 pm

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 4 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isr yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    |03 HusTler


    In Spain, about half the population is vaccinated and the acceptance rate for the vaccine is around 98% or so.

    Masks are not mandatory but everybody keeps wearing them.

    The media and the government are throwing the message that "everything is alright" but I don't think people is buying it. The population is more relaxed now than at the begining but that is not saying much.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HUSTLER on Mon Aug 2 08:51:00 2021
    Quoting Hustler to All <=-

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit?

    Propaganda.

    40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF??

    Because they know that the vaccine does more harm than good.

    some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain.

    Propaganda.

    Masks are back.

    The attempt at tyranny masked as "public good" is back.

    New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated.

    Because most people have figured out that the vax doesn't work either.

    What's going on in your State?

    We've yanked the emergency powers from our tyrant of a governor, so
    she'll have to actually have to work with the legislature (as it should
    be) to restrict anything. But she's notorious for not working with
    anyone, so that won't happen.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ksource on Mon Aug 2 09:50:05 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ksource to HusTler on Mon Aug 02 2021 12:28 am

    I would like to see progress on vaccines for kids. Daycares and schools and things are still a sticky issue since we still can't vaccinate anyone under


    I was reading some stats last week, and out of specific collectives (immuno-deficitary people, obese people etc) there is not much of a reason to rush and vaccinate people under 45 or so. People 45+ seems to be the ones hitting the hospitals so much that they render any other age group insignificant.

    To the point that if somebody mentions that with 50% of the population vaccinated, around 40% of hospital cases have had the vaccine here, they will tell you "It is 50% of the general population which is vaccinated, but 97% of the population that is likely to hit hospital from the virus."

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Mon Aug 2 16:21:00 2021
    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40 rcent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinat
    are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 buc
    to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Wh
    s happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I w
    der if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    It is not just "some" vaccinated that are getting it. I have a friend that works at a hospital about an hour from here. They all got vaxed in Dec/Jan/Feb. Several of them have come down with COVID in the past 6
    weeks. The doctors there believe we need a booster. So do the Israelis,
    who have started giving them to their citizens. The CDC says we don't need them so we are not getting them. :(

    Our state so far is offering three $1million lotteries to the vaxed.

    I know of three people in my building now that have COVID. Two were vaxed,
    one got their last shot in April. I am not sure about the third one. Our
    area has the highest vax rate in the state and is also now one of the RED counties (highest COVID rate category). Maybe people got too relaxed?


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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to Arelor on Tue Aug 3 00:34:24 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to Ksource on Mon Aug 02 2021 09:50:05

    I was reading some stats last week, and out of specific collectives (immuno-deficitary people, obese people etc) there is not much of a reason to rush and vaccinate people under 45 or so. People 45+ seems to be the ones hitting the hospitals so much that they render any other age group insignificant.

    To the point that if somebody mentions that with 50% of the population vaccinated, around 40% of hospital cases have had the vaccine here, they will tell you "It is 50% of the general population which is vaccinated, but 97% of the population that is likely to hit hospital from the virus."

    Huh, that's really interesting, and makes a lot of sense. I can totally see why old people (and those with other problems) got prioritized. EVENTUALLY I have to see just about everybody getting vaccinated, though, like we do with measles and whatnot.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Tue Aug 3 11:05:32 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 01 2021 06:43 pm

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    |03 HusTler


    check this shit out

    https://youtu.be/8raCKcm16pw
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to HusTler on Tue Aug 3 10:20:06 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 01 2021 06:43 pm

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective (I don't remember the exact number), so it's possible for a vaccinated person to still get covid.. Recently I've been hearing the vaccines are still effective against the delta variant but not as much (I think 60% or something?). I'm a bit disappointed to hear the effectiveness against delta isn't quite as much as against the other variants.

    I've heard the delta variant makes up the majority of new covid cases where I live now.

    It would be nice for things to get back to normal..

    I wonder if the vaccine makers will come up with a booster to increase effectiveness against the delta & others.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Ksource on Tue Aug 3 15:49:09 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ksource to HusTler on Mon Aug 02 2021 12:28 am

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is
    this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And

    In Korea here. We have the benefit of relatively homogenous society and not many conspiracy nuts, so mask compliance has been near-perfect since

    I'm still hopeful that the end is coming soon. I'm not super worried about all the variants. If a virus is not contagious enough, it dies out. If it's too deadly, it dies out. Etc. etc. Viruses mutate a lot and they

    I hope you're right. The people in my state are fools and insist on not getting vaccinated. All they keep saying is they don't trust the government and the vaccine. They have no proof of wrong doing by neither but insist they're not getting vaccinated. Even when the government will pay them $100.00 US dollars to do so. I swear, I live in the most fucked up State in the US. BTW most of them were born in another country. Haiti, Jamaica, S.Africa. I need to get out of here but I'm stuck!

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Tue Aug 3 18:04:03 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Tue Aug 03 2021 10:20 am

    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective (I don't remember the exact number), so it's possible for a vaccinated person to stil get covid.. Recently I've been hearing the vaccines are still effective against the delta variant but not as much (I think 60% or something?). I'm bit disappointed to hear the effectiveness against delta isn't quite as much against the other variants.


    Afaik the 95% figures come from the laboratories trying to sell you their vaccines.

    In the real world there are lots of issues going on, such as clumsy vaccine distribution ruining the cold chain and delivering botched vaccines. The most optimistic estimations I was reading about as of late hinted at 80% efficency at best. I ran some informal numbers taking into account the hospitalitation numbers in my province and the percentage of vaccinated people both in and out of hospitals and I'd go as far as to say 80% is dishonest advertising already.

    Which is why I have been telling everybody since the bloody beggining to stop acting like they are immortal just because they got the vaccine.

    (*) Actually I lost the paper I used to run the numbers, but the logic worked as follows: at 80% efficency with 97% of the population inoculated, projections estimate that about half the hospital patients with covid would be vaccinated, and the other half not. Since my province is at a 50% vaccination rate but the patient distribution is the same as the 80% (optimistic) projection, the conclussion is more vaccinated patients are getting hospitalized than expected and therefore the efficency of the vaccine is less than advertised.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Arelor on Tue Aug 3 16:10:53 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Mon Aug 02 2021 05:14 am

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is


    In Spain, about half the population is vaccinated and the acceptance rate for the vaccine is around 98% or so.

    Masks are not mandatory but everybody keeps wearing them.

    The media and the government are throwing the message that "everything is alright" but I don't think people is buying it. The population is more relaxed now than at the begining but that is not saying much.

    My main concern is the fact that 48 percent of Health Care workers are not vaccinted. Can you imagine a family member going into the hospital for a simple procedure and then dying from Covid transmittined by their nurse? Holy crap! And here in New York more then half of the workers in Nursing Homes are not vaccinated. I'd probably just torch the hospital if that happend to my family but that's just me.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Tue Aug 3 16:23:50 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to HusTler on Tue Aug 03 2021 11:05 am

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is
    this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And


    check this shit out

    https://youtu.be/8raCKcm16pw

    Holy Crap! I suddenly got a bad headache. It was good to see Steve again though.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Aug 3 18:47:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Tuesday 03.08.21 - 11:05, MRO wrote to HusTler:

    check this shit out

    https://youtu.be/8raCKcm16pw

    There are many respected Drs/virologists who are simply not
    getting heard on mainstream media about this very thing, ADE.

    I think Robert F Kennedy Jr was among the first to come forward
    with this concern.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Aug 3 22:03:12 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Tue Aug 03 2021 10:20 am


    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective (I don't remember the exact number), so it's possible for a vaccinated person to still get covid.. Recently I've been hearing the vaccines are still effective against the delta variant but not as much (I think 60% or

    effective how? you get some symptoms but 'not as bad'? that's how it is for everyone until age 70 anyways.

    isn't quite as much as against the other variants.

    I've heard the delta variant makes up the majority of new covid cases where I live now.

    It would be nice for things to get back to normal..

    I wonder if the vaccine makers will come up with a booster to increase effectiveness against the delta & others.


    just make up whatever numbers you want. it's what they are doing. we would be better off if they were giving us a vaccine that was just saline.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Tue Aug 3 22:05:39 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to Ksource on Tue Aug 03 2021 03:49 pm

    and they

    I hope you're right. The people in my state are fools and insist on not getting vaccinated. All they keep saying is they don't trust the government and the vaccine. They have no proof of wrong doing by neither but insist they're not getting vaccinated. Even when the government will pay them

    call be a fool. my mom died of covid and i'm not getting it.

    it's experimental and you can not sue them if you die or have problems from the vaccine. that tells a lot right there.

    now they say people that have the vaccine as spreading covid and the virus is mutating through THEM.

    these people took the shot because they were told to. they dont know what will happen to their bodies in the future and right now the facts say viruses are mutating through these people and in the past covid vaccines did the exact same thing according to expert virologists.

    so who's the fool.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Tue Aug 3 22:06:27 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Tue Aug 03 2021 04:10 pm

    My main concern is the fact that 48 percent of Health Care workers are not vaccinted. Can you imagine a family member going into the hospital for a simple procedure and then dying from Covid transmittined by their nurse? Holy crap! And here in New York more then half of the workers in Nursing Homes are not vaccinated. I'd probably just torch the hospital if that happend to my family but that's just me.

    well according to your thought, if they wear a mask they cant transmit the virus, right?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Tue Aug 3 22:07:45 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Aug 03 2021 06:47 pm

    Hello MRO!

    ** On Tuesday 03.08.21 - 11:05, MRO wrote to HusTler:

    check this shit out

    https://youtu.be/8raCKcm16pw

    There are many respected Drs/virologists who are simply not
    getting heard on mainstream media about this very thing, ADE.

    I think Robert F Kennedy Jr was among the first to come forward
    with this concern.

    i tried to find this other video i had but i cant find it. it's another big shot virologist who is now dead. he said fauchi doesnt even understand how viruses work and he's just a suit.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HusTler on Tue Aug 3 22:32:00 2021
    Hello HusTler!

    ** On Tuesday 03.08.21 - 16:10, HusTler wrote to Arelor:

    My main concern is the fact that 48 percent of Health Care workers are
    not vaccinted. Can you imagine a family member going into the hospital for a simple procedure and then dying from Covid transmittined by their nurse?

    You can catch a lot of other things in a hospital. It's a place
    where many diseases get a chance to be in one place.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Aug 4 08:52:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Tuesday 03.08.21 - 22:05, MRO wrote to HusTler:

    call be a fool. my mom died of covid and i'm not getting it.

    For years when people with known conditions that they are
    treated for cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.. would
    enter hospital for flu, they would be registered as dieing from
    the cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.

    Now.. all of a sudden, if anyone enters hospital to be treated
    for a flu (no matter what pre-conditions like the above) ..is
    registered to have died of covid.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to NIGHTFOX on Wed Aug 4 08:35:00 2021
    Quoting Nightfox to Hustler <=-

    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective

    That depends on what you mean by "effective".

    Effective = stopping COVID - 0% effective.
    Effective = reducing death from COVID - it's probably in the 90% range.
    But the vaccine has a 33% chance of killing the patient and the chances
    of death by COVID for most age groups is less than 0.1%.

    so it's possible for a vaccinated person to still get covid.

    That was always possible, even probable. Vaccines do not prevent you
    from getting a disease. They just stimulate your immune system to be
    able to fight it off when you do get the disease. But you still get it,
    you are still infected, you are still contageous.

    Recently I've been hearing the vaccines
    are still effective against the delta variant but not as much (I think
    60% or something?).

    The delta variant is far less lethal. Far fewer hospitalizations and
    deaths - unless you've had the vaccine. Then it's worse.

    It would be nice for things to get back to normal..

    That's up to the tyrants running the gov'ts. It has nothing to do with
    COVID.

    I wonder if the vaccine makers will come up with a booster to increase effectiveness against the delta & others.

    Soon. That was always their plan since their vaccine did nothing to
    sterlize the virus.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HUSTLER on Wed Aug 4 08:36:00 2021
    Quoting Hustler to Ksource <=-

    I hope you're right. The people in my state are fools and insist on
    not getting vaccinated.

    The only fools are the ones getting vaccinated against a disease with a
    99.9% survival rate with a vaccine with a 66% survival rate.

    All they keep saying is they don't trust the
    government and the vaccine.

    That's well founded and has been for a long, long time.

    They have no proof of wrong doing by
    neither but insist they're not getting vaccinated.

    Actually, there is plenty of proof. But you have to stop watching the Propaganda Ministry shows to get it.

    Even when the government will pay them $100.00 US dollars to do so.

    Part of the proof that the vaccine isn't.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HUSTLER on Wed Aug 4 08:37:00 2021
    Quoting Hustler to Arelor <=-

    My main concern is the fact that 48 percent of Health Care workers
    are not vaccinted.

    Because they see people dying from the "vaccine" and they know the real
    COVID numbers (not the one the Propaganda Ministry is pushing).

    Can you imagine a family member going into the
    hospital for a simple procedure and then dying from Covid
    transmittined by their nurse?

    Can you imagine not having enough nurses to staff a hospital because
    they died or were disabled by the vaccine?

    Can you imagine having to choose between keeping you job and getting
    "vaccine" with a 33% death rate to "cure" you from getting a disease
    with a 99.5+% survival rate?

    It seems you've fallen for the propaganda that the only way to get
    immunity is with a vaccine.

    Holy crap! And here in New York more
    then half of the workers in Nursing Homes are not vaccinated.

    Why bother? COVID already raged through the nursing homes killing
    people. You can thank Cuomo for that. The survivors have the
    antibodies, which is far safer than getting the vax.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to OGG on Thu Aug 5 08:07:00 2021
    Quoting Ogg to Mro <=-

    Now.. all of a sudden, if anyone enters hospital to be treated
    for a flu (no matter what pre-conditions like the above) ..is
    registered to have died of covid.

    Right. It started with "if you die with COVID, you are listed as a
    COVID death." So the guy who was in a big car accident with multiple
    internal injuries, died from COVID.

    Then it morphed into "well, we can't keep doing this COVID test, so if
    you show COVID-like symptoms (i.e. you have the flu), then you have
    COVID."

    Even the CDC admits that only 6% of their "COVID deaths" are actually
    COVID deaths. The rest are "they died, but we think they had COVID."


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Thu Aug 5 07:38:00 2021
    Dr. What wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Quoting Nightfox to Hustler <=-

    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective

    That depends on what you mean by "effective".

    Effective = stopping COVID - 0% effective.
    Effective = reducing death from COVID - it's probably in the 90%
    range. But the vaccine has a 33% chance of killing the patient
    and the chances of death by COVID for most age groups is less
    than 0.1%.

    Seriously? You're claiming that the vaccine kills 33% of those who get
    it? Is that what you're saying?

    So....... there have been 55 MILLION (roughly) deaths (in the USA)
    caused directly by the vaccine? Do you actually believe that, or are
    just spouting off bullshit to get attention?

    Don't be a fucking idiot/whacko.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Thu Aug 5 11:36:11 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to NIGHTFOX on Wed Aug 04 2021 08:35 am

    But the vaccine has a 33% chance of killing the patient and the chances

    I think a 33% chance would be so obscene as to ring some alarms, really.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Wed Aug 4 07:20:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to HusTler <=-

    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective (I don't remember the exact number), so it's possible for a vaccinated person to still get covid..

    And you're much less likely to die, because the severity will be lessened.




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 5 21:41:23 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Wed Aug 04 2021 07:20 am

    Nightfox wrote to HusTler <=-

    I had heard that the vaccines are something like 95% effective (I don't remember the exact number), so it's possible for a vaccinated person to still get covid..

    And you're much less likely to die, because the severity will be lessened.



    how do you know that? the severity is already lessened. most people have no symptoms.

    i think when they say it won't be as bad with the vaccine that's just bullshit to get people to take the vaccine.

    they already know covid viruses mutate with vaccines and can't be controlled with vaccines, but they did it anyways.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri Aug 6 06:47:39 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 05 2021 09:41 pm

    they already know covid viruses mutate with vaccines and can't be controlled with vaccines, but they did it anyways.

    I think you are hitting jackpot here.

    That vaccines are mitigation techniques at best against this sort of virus was known already. The fact the media and politicians are selling vaccines as the miracle that will wipe covid-19 out is shady if just because of that.

    Lots of diseases have vaccines deployed against them, and still those diseases don't fade away. It is often due to the fact there are lots of strains in the wild, so the labs can only try to guess which strains are going to hit hard in a given season and vaccine against the likely ones.

    My hypothesis is that vaccines are being sold as the ultimate weapon which will save us all because vaccines are actually pacification techniques. People is burned out with lockdowns and restrictions, so they need to be told there is light at the end of the tunnel. For a politician, it makes sense to pick a given tool (such as vaccines) and ensure it is used everywhere, tell people problems are close to over, and use vaccination rates as a success meter. "Hey, look, this administration is doing great because we have vaccined 30% of the population in X months!"

    They use this approach for most problems, actually.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to GAMGEE on Fri Aug 6 08:20:00 2021
    Quoting Gamgee to Dr. What <=-

    Seriously? You're claiming that the vaccine kills 33% of those who
    get it? Is that what you're saying?

    Yes, that's what the data shows.

    Don't be a fucking idiot/whacko.

    Ahhh.. Standard Leftie Elite. When faced with facts that counter your
    false Narrative, it's dismiss the facts and start with the personal
    attacks.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to ARELOR on Fri Aug 6 08:21:00 2021
    Quoting Arelor to Dr. What <=-

    I think a 33% chance would be so obscene as to ring some alarms,
    really.

    It is. But you won't hear it from the Propaganda Ministry.

    You do hear it from the medical community. Ex: Why do you think many
    health professionals are NOT getting the vax?


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Fri Aug 6 08:22:00 2021
    Quoting Mro to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    how do you know that? the severity is already lessened. most people
    have no symptoms.

    Right. Many people already had COVID, showed little to no symptoms and recovered.

    they already know covid viruses mutate with vaccines and can't be controlled with vaccines, but they did it anyways. -!-

    They can be controlled, but they need to use a sterlizing vaccine -
    which is NOT what's being used today. Read up on how they took care of
    Polio. Very insightful as to what's NOT being done with COVID.

    So, all the COVID vax does is boost people's immune system (if it
    doesn't cause a serious side effect). So people still get COVID. They
    show fewer/lesser symptoms. But they still shed the virus and spread
    it. And, as you point out, they also shed the mutations.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Dr. What on Fri Aug 6 14:01:43 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to ARELOR on Fri Aug 06 2021 08:21 am

    You do hear it from the medical community. Ex: Why do you think many

    Yeah that was the case when I was in ER for 4 days last month. None of the doctors or nurses wanted the vax and most said the majority of people in hospital for covid were FROM the vax (bad reactions).

    Funny how less than a month later the news is telling is only unvaccinated people are getting it. Not true! Close coworker of mine got the vax a few weeks ago, and tested positive for covid just now.

    All those medial workers who are against it will get it soon enough tho if they want to keep their jobs. Biden admin pushing business to force it for them...

    Curious why businesses aren't asking employees to prove they've been vaccinated for Small Pox, and other things that are way more serious than covid...


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Dr. What on Fri Aug 6 14:04:57 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Fri Aug 06 2021 08:22 am

    So, all the COVID vax does is boost people's immune system (if it
    So, all the COVID vax does is boost people's immune system (if it
    doesn't cause a serious side effect). So people still get COVID. They
    show fewer/lesser symptoms. But they still shed the virus and spread
    it. And, as you point out, they also shed the mutations.

    Interesting that in 2017 I think it was Boston College (i'd have to find it) was gratned $$ to do a study on mice where they inserted a molecule-sized sac of some chemical into their brain. When stimulated with a low level frequency, the bags burst and the chemical was deployed.

    The chemical either stimulated hunger, or satsified hunger.

    "Watch, we make mice hungry" play sound, mouse eats.
    "Watch, we make mice not hungry" play sound, mouse ignores food.

    Guess how the molecule with the sac was delivered to the brain?

    Yep. Vaccine.

    So ask yourself, is it coincidence that the govt. wants everyone vaccinated?

    Maybe they figured out how to turn on/off your political affilliation.

    :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Fri Aug 6 15:37:00 2021
    My main concern is the fact that 48 percent of Health Care workers are not va
    inted. Can you imagine a family member going into the hospital for a simple pr
    edure and then dying from Covid transmittined by their nurse? Holy crap! And h
    e in New York more then half of the workers in Nursing Homes are not vaccinate
    I'd probably just torch the hospital if that happend to my family but that's st me.

    Vaccinated people can also spread it. They just supposedly won't get as
    sick if they come down with it as an unvaccinated person would. The
    government and press are also saying that the unvaccinated population is
    where the virus is likely to mutate.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Fri Aug 6 15:39:00 2021
    i tried to find this other video i had but i cant find it. it's another big sho
    virologist who is now dead. he said fauchi doesnt even understand how viruses >work and he's just a suit.

    There are people in the FIDO Politics echo who think that Fauci is above reproach.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Fri Aug 6 20:59:00 2021
    Dr. What wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Seriously? You're claiming that the vaccine kills 33% of those who
    get it? Is that what you're saying?

    Yes, that's what the data shows.

    Show me a link/reference that says 33% of people who get the vaccine
    have died.

    Do you have any concept of numbers? There have been roughly 165 MILLION people vaccinated in the USA. Once again I ask you (because you clipped
    it and didn't answer) - Do you honestly think 55 MILLION people have
    died in the USA from the vaccine? It's a simple question, please answer
    it.

    Don't be a fucking idiot/whacko.

    Ahhh.. Standard Leftie Elite. When faced with facts that counter
    your false Narrative, it's dismiss the facts and start with the
    personal attacks.

    More evidence that you're a moron. I'm about as far from a Leftie as
    one can get, other than you extreme fringe fanatics. I'm a staunch conservative and voted for Trump. My other postings here and elsewhere
    are easy verifications of what I'm saying.

    It's assholes like you that give the Right Wing a bad reputation.

    Now answer the question above about 55 Million people dead in the USA
    from taking the vaccine.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Zombie Mambo on Fri Aug 6 21:05:00 2021
    Zombie Mambo wrote to Dr. What <=-

    So, all the COVID vax does is boost people's immune system (if it
    So, all the COVID vax does is boost people's immune system (if it
    doesn't cause a serious side effect). So people still get COVID. They
    show fewer/lesser symptoms. But they still shed the virus and spread
    it. And, as you point out, they also shed the mutations.

    Interesting that in 2017 I think it was Boston College (i'd have
    to find it) was gratned $$ to do a study on mice where they
    inserted a molecule-sized sac of some chemical into their brain.
    When stimulated with a low level frequency, the bags burst and
    the chemical was deployed.

    The chemical either stimulated hunger, or satsified hunger.

    "Watch, we make mice hungry" play sound, mouse eats.
    "Watch, we make mice not hungry" play sound, mouse ignores food.

    Guess how the molecule with the sac was delivered to the brain?

    Yep. Vaccine.

    So ask yourself, is it coincidence that the govt. wants everyone vaccinated?

    Maybe they figured out how to turn on/off your political
    affilliation.

    Oh look! It's Beavis and Butthead having a conversation.

    How cute^H^H^H^H pathetic.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 7 02:28:16 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Fri Aug 06 2021 03:37 pm

    Vaccinated people can also spread it. They just supposedly won't get as sick if they come down with it as an unvaccinated person would. The government and press are also saying that the unvaccinated population is where the virus is likely to mutate.


    i would like to know the 'science' behind that, though. why do they think that? and is it even possible? and how would they know since most people have minimal symptoms?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 7 02:28:54 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Aug 06 2021 03:39 pm

    i tried to find this other video i had but i cant find it. it's another big sho
    virologist who is now dead. he said fauchi doesnt even understand how viruses >work and he's just a suit.

    There are people in the FIDO Politics echo who think that Fauci is above reproach.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Gamgee on Sat Aug 7 18:56:17 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Gamgee to Zombie Mambo on Fri Aug 06 2021 09:05 pm

    Oh look! It's Beavis and Butthead having a conversation.

    How cute^H^H^H^H pathetic.


    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

    There's a worthwhile reply.


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  • From Sam Alexander@VERT to HusTler on Sat Aug 7 21:11:49 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 01 2021 06:43 pm

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this?

    Sorry kinda late to the conversation. It's fairly crappy, especially here in Texas as our governor isn't doing a thing to slow the spread. Hospitals are filling up, and will probably be completely full by the time schools start back. And he's not allowing schools to put in any mandates for masks, Texas Education Administration has told schools they don't have to quarantine for close contact or contact families if a case is found in the school, it'll be a mess. My daughter, me, and my wife are vaxxed but my son is too young for it.

    Also around here going about town ANYWHERE you see zero masks. Our county 4-5 weeks ago had on average 10 cases a day and about 8 hospitalized. Now we're up to about 160 new cases a day and hospitalized is up to about 120 with 12 on vents. The entire last month we had 4 deaths, we had just 4 deaths on Friday, 3 of them under 5.

    Texas and Florida are royally screwed as their governors just don't care... they're putting the will of their campaign contributers first and not the safety of our healthcare and educational systems. CEO's of all the major hospitals and many superintendents and educators and parents are begging the governor to act. He had an executive order that would've kicked in when hositals hit 15%, but he pulled it literally the day our first medical region hit 15%. Now several of our medical regions are already at 20% of all hospital beds are covid cases... and Houston and Dallas are already reporting fully hositals with many others shutting down their ER's due to zero room. And school hasn't even started yet.

    It's a mess for sure thanks to our state's failed leadership.

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  • From Sam Alexander@VERT to HusTler on Sat Aug 7 21:16:22 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Sam Alexander to HusTler on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:11 pm

    we had just 4 deaths on Friday, 3 of them under 5.
    Correction - 3 of them under 50... sorry. Didn't notice the typo until after I hit Send.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 06:52:00 2021
    Zombie Mambo wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Funny how less than a month later the news is telling is only
    unvaccinated people are getting it. Not true! Close coworker of mine
    got the vax a few weeks ago, and tested positive for covid just now.

    Some areas are reporting that upwards of 70% of new cases are from the vaccinated.

    All those medial workers who are against it will get it soon enough tho
    if they want to keep their jobs. Biden admin pushing business to force
    it for them...

    If they keep pushing, we are going to get socialized medicine, at a higher price because many health care workers will probably quit, which will make the lack of health care workers (that we already have) even worse.

    Curious why businesses aren't asking employees to prove they've been vaccinated for Small Pox, and other things that are way more serious
    than covid...

    The smallpox vaccine is actually a vaccine and has been through the years of trials so that we know the problems with it.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 8 06:53:00 2021
    Zombie Mambo wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Maybe they figured out how to turn on/off your political affilliation.

    It's a backup plan if the Left doesn't get their way to let all the illegals vote.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Sun Aug 8 07:37:00 2021
    Dr. What wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-

    Funny how less than a month later the news is telling is only
    unvaccinated people are getting it. Not true! Close coworker of mine
    got the vax a few weeks ago, and tested positive for covid just now.

    Some areas are reporting that upwards of 70% of new cases are
    from the vaccinated.

    Really? That's just the opposite of what I've seen reported. In fact,
    what I'm seeing reported is that 95+ % of new cases are from the UN-vaccinated.

    Would you mind telling us where these "some areas" are, exactly and specifically? Also could you cite a reference/link of the "reporting"
    that is saying this?

    Or.... will you just not answer my questions, as you didn't answer the
    other one(s) I asked you regarding your claim that 33% of those who get vaccinated *DIE* from the vaccine?

    You can't just spew bullshit without somebody asking you to substantiate
    your claims. Here's your chance to actually make your case. Back up
    what you say. Can you?


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dr. What on Fri Aug 6 10:20:00 2021
    Dr. What wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Ahhh.. Standard Leftie Elite. When faced with facts that counter your false Narrative, it's dismiss the facts and start with the personal attacks.

    Please explain how this is in any way different from how the Right behaves?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Aug 8 09:17:00 2021
    Vaccinated people can also spread it. They just supposedly won't get as sick if they come down with it as an unvaccinated person would. The government and press are also saying that the unvaccinated population is where the virus is likely to mutate.


    i would like to know the 'science' behind that, though. why do they think that
    and is it even possible? and how would they know since most people have minimal
    symptoms?

    How they explain it in layman's terms is that the unvaxed do not have the antibodies that a vaxed person would have. So, while the antibodies fight
    off the virus before it can mutate in a vaxed person, an unvaxed person is likely to be sicker longer and give the virus a longer chance to start mutating.

    I guess a virus has to have a host to mutate in.

    I would not mind a more scientific explanation, either. What do they say
    makes sense but I am not a scientist so who knows?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to SAM ALEXANDER on Sun Aug 8 09:57:00 2021
    Texas Education Adm
    inistration has told schools they don't have to quarantine for close contact or
    contact families if a case is found in the school, it'll be a mess. My daughte

    That sounds messed up. Here in Kentucky, they seem to be putting privacy
    in front of contacting people who might have been exposed, but they seem to
    be doing a better job than that. I don't have kids in school, though, and
    they are leaving a lot of those decisions to the individual school systems.

    Also around here going about town ANYWHERE you see zero masks. Our county 4-5
    eeks ago had on average 10 cases a day and about 8 hospitalized. Now we're up
    about 160 new cases a day and hospitalized is up to about 120 with 12 on vent
    The entire last month we had 4 deaths, we had just 4 deaths on Friday, 3 of em under 5.

    Texas and Florida are royally screwed as their governors just don't care... th
    're putting the will of their campaign contributers first and not the safety o
    our healthcare and educational systems.

    I don't think it is just TX and FL. In Kentucky, we are seeing numbers now that, last year, would have got us locked down and mask-mandated by now. Instead, we only have mask-mandates in government buildings, and only suggestions elsewhere. Our governor is from the opposite party of yours,
    so I am wondering what the difference is vs. last year. Only one I can
    figure is that, this time last year, a different person was President so
    our governor is now more hesitant to do things that might hurt the economy.

    He is now 2 years into a 4 year term, so he also may be starting to worry
    about getting re-elected himself.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to SAM ALEXANDER on Sun Aug 8 10:04:00 2021
    we had just 4 deaths on Friday, 3 of them under 5.
    Correction - 3 of them under 50... sorry. Didn't notice the typo until after hit Send.

    I was skeptical about getting the shot but, one of my motivating factors
    was that someone my age... we are both around 50... got really sick with
    COVID before the shots were available. She was not a smoker and did not
    have any existing health issues that would supposedly make it worse. She was in the hospital for about 3 weeks and had some lingering symptoms for a long time after (may still).

    After seeing that, I was not as hesitant to sign up for the shot as soon as
    it was available to my age and employment group.

    Yesterday, I attended a memorial service for one of my cousins. He was in
    his sixties, was a heavy smoker, and may have had some additional,
    undiagnosed health issues. He contracted COVID about a year ago. He got
    over it, after a hospital stay, but it did damage to his heart values and that contributed to his early death.

    A lot of people get it and barely have symptoms but, if you do get it, it
    could really kick your ass.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Dr. What on Sun Aug 8 13:22:25 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 06:52 am

    The smallpox vaccine is actually a vaccine and has been through the years of trials so that we know the problems with it.


    ... A nudist has no reason to fear a pickpocket.

    yes- agreed. govt has no business pressuring people to take an experiemental drug not yet certified by fda, let alone pressuring people into ANYTHING.
    How easily people forget the job of the president is to execute the laws of this country. They don't make law. Imagine if the president could not be affilliated with a party. Had to be independent. Was forced to do his job and concentrate on bringing sides together... amazing. unrealistic...

    btw your tag line... Apparently you've never hear of the Pasco Pocket or Pasco Purse...


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 8 16:44:06 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Aug 08 2021 09:17 am

    I guess a virus has to have a host to mutate in.


    A virus cannot even reproduce without a host, so yeah, they need a host in order to mutate.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Sam Alexander on Sun Aug 8 17:44:43 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Sam Alexander to HusTler on Sat Aug 07 2021 09:11 pm

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is
    this?

    Dallas are already reporting fully hositals with many others shutting down their ER's due to zero room. And school hasn't even started yet.

    It's a mess for sure thanks to our state's failed leadership.

    New York is messed up too. Now the primary focus is getting the govenor (Cuomo) to resign and if not be impeached. No progress on COVID-19 other than the unvaccinated are getting sick.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 9 03:40:22 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to SAM ALEXANDER on Sun Aug 08 2021 10:04 am

    over it, after a hospital stay, but it did damage to his heart values and that contributed to his early death.

    A lot of people get it and barely have symptoms but, if you do get it, it could really kick your ass.

    i'm betting if they checked everyone for antibodies, almost all of us had it. it's super contagious.

    that being said, the percentage of people it kills is incredibly low, and almost all of them had contributing factors.

    it got my mom and she was the only woman in my family that didnt live to be 80+. the women in my family are super tough. but mom was a big smoker and fat, and every year she would get some type of cold/flu around nov-dec.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 9 11:09:18 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Aug 06 2021 03:39 pm

    There are people in the FIDO Politics echo who think that Fauci is above reproach.

    There are exactly two kinds of people in the FIDO Politics echo. One thinks Fauci is above reproach, the other things Fauci is a lying weasel that wants to see how far he can take this.


    There is no middle ground there. Fuck that place.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Mon Aug 9 11:21:48 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 06:52 am

    Some areas are reporting that upwards of 70% of new cases are from the vaccinated.

    That number you're quoting is from an extremely small sample size in an extremely isolated incident.

    Curious why businesses aren't asking employees to prove they've been
    vaccinated for Small Pox, and other things that are way more serious
    than covid...

    In 1905, the supreme court ruled that a vaccine could be mandatory. This was in relation to the smallpox vaccine. Smallpox has been wiped out, so the vaccine is no longer required.

    The smallpox vaccine is actually a vaccine and has been through the years of trials so that we know the problems with it.

    Right, like the J&J Covid-19 vaccine, which is a traditional vaccine, and not an mRNA vaccine like the pfizer and Moderna ones, which have only been in testing and development for ... 30 years.

    As opposed to that smallpox vaccination that became mandatory, that was in testing and development for only a few years.

    I was talking to my uncle a couple weeks ago. He was telling me that, when he was a child, it was illegal for children to leave their own yard. They couldn't go to friends houses or have anyone over for at least an entire summer before the polio vaccine was rolled out. And everyone adhered to it, and no one made it a political thing.

    by 1979, polio had been eradicated from the US, because people got vaccinated.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon Aug 9 08:24:00 2021
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Dr. What <=-

    Dr. What wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Ahhh.. Standard Leftie Elite. When faced with facts that counter your false Narrative, it's dismiss the facts and start with the personal attacks.

    Please explain how this is in any way different from how the Right behaves?

    The right doesn't do that. Of course, you've only listened to the
    Leftie's definition of what the "Right" is, so I can understand why you
    are confused.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DUMAS WALKER on Mon Aug 9 08:26:00 2021
    Quoting Dumas Walker to Mro <=-

    How they explain it in layman's terms is that the unvaxed do not have
    the antibodies that a vaxed person would have. So, while the
    antibodies fight off the virus before it can mutate in a vaxed person,
    an unvaxed person is likely to be sicker longer and give the virus a longer chance to start mutating.

    The stated purpose of the "vaccine" is to trick a person's body into
    creating the anti-bodies that fight off COVID. So there is no
    difference between someone who had COVID, fought it off and has the anti-bodies.

    The Lefties still haven't explained why they think this isn't the case.

    But you do hit on the problem that the anti-bodies have: mutation. If
    you have the anti-bodies, that doesn't mean you can't get COVID. It
    just means your body knows how to fight it off. So in either case, you
    still get sick, you still can spread it and the virus mutates to avoid
    the anti-bodies.

    I guess a virus has to have a host to mutate in.

    A virus is pretty much nothing more than a "payload" of instructions to
    make the host make more virus. They didn't name "computer viruses" that
    way at a whim.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Gamgee on Mon Aug 9 14:18:55 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Gamgee to Dr. What on Fri Aug 06 2021 08:59 pm

    Show me a link/reference that says 33% of people who get the vaccine
    have died.

    https://www.capradio.org/articles/2021/05/10/no-the-death-rate-for-vaccinated-p 1.8% die without vax when they get covid.
    1% die after getting covid after being vaxd.

    Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of deat h...Out of 187m people vaccinated, in US. 0.0018%



    Let's say that's a true statement.

    now, according the th AP:
    THE FACTS: As of July 23, there were more than 34.3 million known cases of COVI 19 in the United States and 610,370 deaths, according to data from
    Johns Hopkins University. That means the case fatality ratio is 1.8%...

    Given room for error, etc. it would appear that you have the same chance of survivng covide regardless of your vax status. To argue otherwise is to try
    to take a small # and use it to your argument's advantage, either pro or agains

    Bottom Line: Makes no difference, not worth discussing, open up the countries and lets move on.

    Quicker we can get herd immunity, and do long term studies for a proper vax instead of an experimental drug the better.



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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Gamgee on Mon Aug 9 14:28:06 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Gamgee to Dr. What on Sun Aug 08 2021 07:37 am

    Dr. What wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-

    Funny how less than a month later the news is telling is only unvaccinated people are getting it. Not true! Close coworker of mine got the vax a few weeks ago, and tested positive for covid just now.

    Some areas are reporting that upwards of 70% of new cases are
    from the vaccinated.

    Really? That's just the opposite of what I've seen reported. In fact,
    what I'm seeing reported is that 95+ % of new cases are from the UN-vaccinated.

    Would you mind telling us where these "some areas" are, exactly and specifically? Also could you cite a reference/link of the "reporting"
    that is saying this?

    Or.... will you just not answer my questions, as you didn't answer the
    other one(s) I asked you regarding your claim that 33% of those who get vaccinated *DIE* from the vaccine?

    You can't just spew bullshit without somebody asking you to substantiate your claims. Here's your chance to actually make your case. Back up
    what you say. Can you?


    ... All the easy problems have been solved.



    Well in his defense I will say that, everything you are saying assumes your sources are legit. Many people will not agree with you.

    Now what?

    You're automatically right because you're willing to cite your source which half the world doesn't trust/believe?

    So, you see why many people refuse to play your game, its pointless.
    And they already know your ability to consider another opinion is basically non existent, so why bother trying to ?

    I on the other hand, could give two shits what you, or anybody else things, about what I have to say...

    And I'll speak for the little guy not willing.

    Ever hear of province town? Why are their vaccinated catching covid. That's
    an AREA last time I checked, by the way.

    Oh and this little thing called the CDC which many people believe to be the end-all-be-all authority says this little tidbit:

    Available evidence suggests the currently authorized mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are highly effective against hospitalization and death for a variety of strains, including Alpha (B.1.1.7), Beta (B.1.351), Gamma (P.1), and Delta (B.1.617.2); data suggest lower effectiveness against confirmed infection and symptomatic disease caused by the Beta, Gamma, and Delta variants compared with the ancestral strain and Alpha variant. Ongoing monitoring of vaccine effectiveness against variants is needed.

    They are saying (ijn case you don't beleive the words) that the current vaccines ARE NOT very effective against different and new strains of covid. We know that there are AREAS in our country where these strains are more common and dense (do you REALLY need me to post a map, or are you starting to get that it isn't MY or any other user's job to educate YOU?) and people in those areas who have been vaccinated are catching covid.

    So there you go, fuck nuts.

    Pay attention to other sources, get a better idea of what's really happening, before you try to belittle someone for making a fucking comment.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Aug 9 17:53:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 09.08.21 - 03:40, MRO wrote to Dumas Walker:

    i'm betting if they checked everyone for antibodies, almost
    all of us had it. it's super contagious.

    THAT's exactly what they should be testing people for, the
    antibodies, and not rely on unreliable and inconsistent PCR
    tests.

    I had a very unusual flu late 2019. I did not have the common
    reported symptoms, but I did develop a high temperture at 104F
    for a few hours. The whole thing was over in 4 days.


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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to HUSTLER on Sun Aug 1 19:08:00 2021
    On 8/1/2021 6:43 PM, HUSTLER wrote to ALL:

    @MSGID: <61072396.5148.dove-debate@havens.synchronetbbs.org>

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40
    percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated
    are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to
    anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll
    be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    Masks are pointless unless you have a K95/N95.
    If you dont get a vaccine and get sick to that virus you should not get paid sick days if
    that is the reason why you are sick.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DAITENGU on Tue Aug 10 08:14:00 2021
    Quoting Daitengu to Dr. What <=-

    That number you're quoting is from an extremely small sample size in
    an extremely isolated incident.

    ".. and what makes them [Lefties] tremendously dangerous is that facts
    that contridict what they believe are simply ignored or evaded."
    -- Thomas Sowell


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Tue Aug 10 08:15:00 2021
    Quoting Mro to Dumas Walker <=-

    i'm betting if they checked everyone for antibodies, almost all of us
    had it. it's super contagious.

    They tried to do widespread anti-body testing, but when early results
    showed that the vast majority of people had the anti-bodies, the testing
    was halted.

    that being said, the percentage of people it kills is incredibly low,
    and almost all of them had contributing factors.

    According to the CDC own propaganda, 94% had contributing factors.

    it got my mom and she was the only woman in my family that didnt live
    to be 80+. the women in my family are super tough. but mom was a big smoker and fat, and every year she would get some type of cold/flu
    around nov-dec.

    According to health professionals, these types of viruses are constantly
    around us. They only impact us when our immune systems are weakened.
    For those who live in the northern areas, that's pretty much fall-spring
    when we don't get enough Vitamin D (also known as cold and flu season).


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Tue Aug 10 08:16:00 2021
    Quoting Zombie Mambo to Gamgee <=-

    So, you see why many people refuse to play your game, its pointless.
    And they already know your ability to consider another opinion is basically non existent, so why bother trying to ?

    Which is why he's in my twit filter now. There's no point wasting time "discussing" anything with him.

    They are saying (ijn case you don't beleive the words) that the
    current vaccines ARE NOT very effective against different and new
    strains of covid.

    We now know that the vaccines have zero evidence of effectiveness
    against COVID. And the drug companies know that.

    Pay attention to other sources, get a better idea of what's really happening, before you try to belittle someone for making a fucking comment.

    But that would require him to accept the idea that he (and the
    "experts" he worhips) might be wrong. And people like him cannot face
    that idea.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tue Aug 10 08:57:40 2021
    Re: RE: Covid Delta
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to HUSTLER on Sun Aug 01 2021 07:08 pm

    On 8/1/2021 6:43 PM, HUSTLER wrote to ALL:

    @MSGID: <61072396.5148.dove-debate@havens.synchronetbbs.org>

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40
    percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated
    are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to
    anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll
    be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    Masks are pointless unless you have a K95/N95.
    If you dont get a vaccine and get sick to that virus you should not get paid

    hey your quoting is borked.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Tue Aug 10 09:22:45 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to DAITENGU on Tue Aug 10 2021 08:14 am

    That number you're quoting is from an extremely small sample size in
    an extremely isolated incident.
    ".. and what makes them [Lefties] tremendously dangerous is that facts that contridict what they believe are simply ignored or evaded."
    -- Thomas Sowell

    I did not ignore it, nor did I evade it.

    correlation does not imply causation.

    While yes, some vaccinated people are catching COVID-19, the overall number is very small.

    DaiTengu

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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tue Aug 10 15:29:00 2021
    Masks are back. New York City is paying
    100 bucks to
    anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State?

    In Oregon, USA they are doing the same [bs] $100 bribe. And what about those of us who got vaxxed prior? NO, I don't want $100 to go do something that *I* think you should, but I damn sure don't want to PAY from their [dumb]asses to go get vaccinated.

    Masks are now 'mandated' in Portland again, but since everyone has gone thru the rigmarole last year they know its not an enforceable rule - and AREN'T masking up. Even more so than before, I'm the weirdo for mitigating...



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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to DaiTengu on Tue Aug 10 15:33:00 2021
    While yes, some vaccinated people are catching COVID-19, the overall number is very small.

    DaiTengu

    First, I'm with you DaiTengu... this isn't a reply [necessarily] disagreeing.. but I don't know IF that number IS 'very small'. My point isn't that the other stance is correct - we need to get this population vaccinated, NOW.

    But furthermore, we need to be looking at if we need a booster or not - if we can create new vaxes or change the current ones.. and we need data. Again, I'm with you... but I want information of how 'high' or how 'very small' these numbers are. I'm not convinced that ANY of us are getting perfect info... transparency is so needed, and we haven't REALLY had that this entire time.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Tue Aug 10 16:54:00 2021
    There are exactly two kinds of people in the FIDO Politics echo. One thinks uci is above reproach, the other things Fauci is a lying weasel that wants to e how far he can take this.

    I actually don't believe either. I believe he is an attention whore who
    seems to change his opinion much more often than other medical
    professionals who are not in the media nearly as much. That is different
    than the second group as I don't think he lies on purpose or is trying to string this out... if anything, some of his opinions lately seem to me not
    to be serious enough.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Tue Aug 10 21:31:27 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Tue Aug 10 2021 09:22 am

    While yes, some vaccinated people are catching COVID-19, the overall number is very small.


    how do we know that? most people dont have symptoms. are their studies? probably not.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 10 21:32:49 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Tue Aug 10 2021 04:54 pm

    There are exactly two kinds of people in the FIDO Politics echo. One thinks uci is above reproach, the other things Fauci is a lying weasel that wants to e how far he can take this.

    I actually don't believe either. I believe he is an attention whore who seems to change his opinion much more often than other medical
    professionals who are not in the media nearly as much. That is different than the second group as I don't think he lies on purpose or is trying to string this out... if anything, some of his opinions lately seem to me not to be serious enough.



    you just need to look at his past. he's a media whore. he's hated by his peers. some of the biggest guys in virology said he's nothing but a suit and knows nothing about viruses.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to paulie420 on Wed Aug 11 07:59:00 2021
    Hello paulie420!

    ** On Tuesday 10.08.21 - 15:33, paulie420 wrote to DaiTengu:

    First, I'm with you DaiTengu... this isn't a reply
    [necessarily] disagreeing.. but I don't know IF that number
    IS 'very small'. My point isn't that the other stance is
    correct - we need to get this population vaccinated, NOW.

    You're forgetting that not everyone is a candidate. People with
    compromised or weak immune systems should not take it. A vaxx
    does nothing in a person who has no immune system. People with
    sensitivities and allergies should not take it either.

    ..I'm not convinced that ANY of us are getting perfect
    info... transparency is so needed, and we haven't REALLY
    had that this entire time.

    That is likely so.

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  • From Mephisztoe@VERT/BLUESKY to HusTler on Wed Aug 11 14:48:08 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 01 2021 18:43:34

    I am from Germany. For a couple of weeks now the 7-day incidence value is continously rising again and in contrast to this, people are demanding their "freedom" back. Although vaccination is not a mandatory thing here (and would be against our constitution because of the right to physical integrity... haha), out politics plan to introduce sanctions that result in implicit mandatory vaccination.

    That means that if you are not vaccinated or recovered, you will not be allowed to enter closed public rooms (such as cinema, hair dresser, supermarket, etc.) without being tested... and testing will not be free anymore, so people who don't want to be vaccinated will have to pay (I believe about 25 Euros which is about 30 USD atm) each time they want to buy groceries).

    The whole discussion is getting weirder and weirder... We kinda know that even people who are vaccinated can get covid19 and spread, but they most likely won't. And even if, they themselves would more likely recover from it like they do when having a bad cold. And because they won't be tested anymore (cuz of ther status), they won't be recognized as covid19 positive anymore which in turn leads to a decreasing incidence value which in turn let's everyone eventually believe, covid19 is over.

    And thinking of it,... even though these sanctions are about to put into place in october, until now, politics reopened pretty much everything over the last couple of months again. Well... not all of course. What you need to know at this point is that we are approaching important elections in Germany that may lead to a political change. So guess why the current leading political party is offering so many degrees of freedom right now... shame upon him who thinks evil upon it...

    I don't know what you know about German politics, but I think that this year has a high potential to make things really worse here (even more worse than what covid19 did yet) and that frightens the hell out of me...

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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Ogg on Wed Aug 11 17:30:00 2021
    You're forgetting that not everyone is a candidate. People with compromised or weak immune systems should not take it. A vaxx
    does nothing in a person who has no immune system. People with sensitivities and allergies should not take it either.

    Well I certainly agree that those who are alergic OR have health issues shouldn't take it, but all the more reason that the other 90% need to.

    Now.

    That is likely so.

    Same.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to paulie420 on Wed Aug 11 07:52:00 2021
    paulie420 wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-

    In Oregon, USA they are doing the same [bs] $100 bribe. And what about those of us who got vaxxed prior? NO, I don't want $100 to go do
    something that *I* think you should, but I damn sure don't want to PAY from their [dumb]asses to go get vaccinated.

    I'm more worried about the precedent of people not acting in the common good unless paid to give a crap about their community, and by extension, themselves.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Wed Aug 11 07:53:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    you just need to look at his past. he's a media whore. he's hated by
    his peers. some of the biggest guys in virology said he's nothing but a suit and knows nothing about viruses.

    Citations, please.

    I'm picturing a bunch of jealous virologists sitting in a dank lab muttering because Fauci's on TV and they were just denied funding again.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 12 09:39:11 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Wed Aug 11 2021 07:53 am

    MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    you just need to look at his past. he's a media whore. he's hated by his peers. some of the biggest guys in virology said he's nothing but a suit and knows nothing about viruses.

    Citations, please.

    I'm picturing a bunch of jealous virologists sitting in a dank lab muttering because Fauci's on TV and they were just denied funding again.


    this isnt wikipedia. i dont have to provide citations. you can use google and find it easy. it goes all the way back to the 80s.

    just pull fauci's cock out of your mouth first, might make it easier.

    i'll be nice and give you a few. look up nobel prize winner dr kary mullis. then the guy who created the vaccine technology they used for the covid vaccines.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 12 15:20:58 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to paulie420 on Wed Aug 11 2021 07:52 am

    I'm more worried about the precedent of people not acting in the common good unless paid to giv
    crap about their community, and by extension, themselves.


    For all the nice talking from politicians, taking a vaccine is not an act for the common good, but
    a selfish act. The main reason why people has historically taken vaccines is because they wanted to
    protect themselves, not to protect "society" or any other form of abstract entity.

    If somebody trusts the vaccine he will be taking it because he wants its benefits. If he doesn't,
    you can't tell him having it is a patriotic or communitary act because, for him, the vaccine is
    no good. You may as well tell him to inject water in the name of The Community.

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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 12 15:01:00 2021
    I'm more worried about the precedent of people not acting in the common good unless paid to give a crap about their community, and by
    extension, themselves.

    I fear its worse than that - we're seeing that we can 'buy' some number of idiots... but you damn well know theres another 30% who won't budge for nothing.

    I just don't understand it; and it seems like we're gonna have to live with other peoples choices. The bad part is that... we'll never get to know how well or bad we COULD have responded to COViD.19 - because at 50% we don't even have a fighting chance at REALLY kicking COViD's ass.

    :/

    I think at best we need to learn to LIVE with it... which is exasperated, again, by people who won't do simple, intelligent mitigation. Blah.



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 13 06:21:32 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to paulie420 on Wed Aug 11 2021 07:52 am

    In Oregon, USA they are doing the same [bs] $100 bribe. And what
    about those of us who got vaxxed prior? NO, I don't want $100 to go
    do something that *I* think you should, but I damn sure don't want
    to PAY from their [dumb]asses to go get vaccinated.

    So how much for the second shot? Or is it $50.00 each? What happens if they decide not to get the second shot?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Fri Aug 13 09:43:48 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 13 2021 06:21 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to paulie420 on Wed Aug 11 2021 07:52 am

    In Oregon, USA they are doing the same [bs] $100 bribe. And what
    about those of us who got vaxxed prior? NO, I don't want $100 to go
    do something that *I* think you should, but I damn sure don't want
    to PAY from their [dumb]asses to go get vaccinated.

    So how much for the second shot? Or is it $50.00 each? What happens if they decide not to get the second shot?


    if this shutdown shit didnt ruin so many people's lives this would be hillarious.

    there are so many people that have got the shot dont even have the anti bodies.

    when winter comes around, here comes the shit show. doesnt matter if you have a mask, vaccine or not vaccine.

    people like me who are healthy and probably have the antibodies are the only ones that will be okay from a health standpoint. but we will all suffer again with more shutdowns and closed businesses.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to HusTler on Fri Aug 13 08:36:31 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 13 2021 06:21 am

    In Oregon, USA they are doing the same [bs] $100 bribe. And what
    about those of us who got vaxxed prior? NO, I don't want $100 to go
    do something that *I* think you should, but I damn sure don't want
    to PAY from their [dumb]asses to go get vaccinated.

    So how much for the second shot? Or is it $50.00 each? What happens if they decide not to get the second shot?

    You replied to Poindexter Fortran, but it looked like you were quoting someone else (and quoting someone 2 levels up)..

    Nightfox

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dr. What on Fri Aug 13 12:11:53 2021
    On 8/6/2021 5:21 AM, Dr. What wrote:
    I think a 33% chance would be so obscene as to ring some alarms,
    really.

    It is. But you won't hear it from the Propaganda Ministry.

    You do hear it from the medical community. Ex: Why do you think many
    health professionals are NOT getting the vax?

    I'm sorry, but if roughly 20% of the general population (33% of 60%)
    died in the past year, I think more people would have noticed. Even if
    either number is inflated, more than 1% of the population dying within a
    year would be deeply noticed.

    I'm against mask mandates, vaccine passports and totally understand a
    general distrust of the government... but the above is just bullshit
    that makes no sense in any way related to reality.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Gamgee on Fri Aug 13 12:18:44 2021
    On 8/6/2021 6:59 PM, Gamgee wrote:
    More evidence that you're a moron. I'm about as far from a Leftie as
    one can get, other than you extreme fringe fanatics. I'm a staunch conservative and voted for Trump. My other postings here and elsewhere
    are easy verifications of what I'm saying.

    It's assholes like you that give the Right Wing a bad reputation.

    No shit... I'm a pretty pragmatic, conservative leaning libertarian,
    have been for well over a decade now... I work in the elections space,
    and it's been absolutely crazy. I completely believe that there was
    various forms of stuffing and fraud in the election, that it's pretty
    typical even... You wouldn't believe the conspiracy bullshit I've gone through, the threats, etc this past year... It's astounding.

    Of course the "If you don't get the shot, you should get shot." types
    are every bit as bad... I mean any sense of personal liberty is just
    about out the window, and I'm in favor of most getting vaccinated. My
    family has, I haven't (history of GBS). Totally understand the distrust
    and the actions around the left don't inspire anything resembling
    confidence, but the 33% number is so far beyond bullshit it's not even
    funny.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Fri Aug 13 12:26:38 2021
    On 8/7/2021 12:28 AM, MRO wrote:
    Vaccinated people can also spread it. They just supposedly won't
    get as sick if they come down with it as an unvaccinated person
    would. The government and press are also saying that the
    unvaccinated population is where the virus is likely to mutate.

    i would like to know the 'science' behind that, though. why do they
    think that? and is it even possible? and how would they know since
    most people have minimal symptoms?

    There's enough evidence showing it's less than fully effective, and that vaccinated can still be carriers (but much shorter periods of time, much
    lower transmission rates). Trace analysis and statistical models show
    some of this as well, it's largely overblown though.

    Didn't take the time to search harder for a COVID-19 specific reference,
    but the same rules largely apply as they did with the SARS variant...

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

    "...However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully
    vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is
    continued community transmission of the virus."
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 13 12:33:13 2021
    On 8/8/2021 6:57 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

    I don't think it is just TX and FL. In Kentucky, we are seeing
    numbers now that, last year, would have got us locked down and mask- mandated by now. Instead, we only have mask-mandates in government buildings, and only suggestions elsewhere. Our governor is from the opposite party of yours, so I am wondering what the difference is vs.
    last year. Only one I can figure is that, this time last year, a
    different person was President so our governor is now more hesitant to
    do things that might hurt the economy.

    He is now 2 years into a 4 year term, so he also may be starting to
    worry about getting re-elected himself.

    I think it largely boils down to the amount of the general population
    that will tolerate lock-down and/or mask mandates and for how long. I
    think there's some correlation to political boundaries, and definitely
    some overlap on opinions. It could very well re-shape the political
    identity of the parties over the next few years as lines may be redrawn
    over which side on what issues people take.

    I still think D and R are at least as much the same as different, and
    that at least half of all policy actions would be the same with either
    party in power, it's just a matter of what specific rights are trampled
    on over time.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 13 12:35:02 2021
    On 8/8/2021 7:04 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

    A lot of people get it and barely have symptoms but, if you do get it, it could really kick your ass.

    Yeah, if I hadn't had GBS, would definitely be getting the shot... still against government ordered mask mandates and lock-downs though.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Fri Aug 13 18:57:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Friday 13.08.21 - 09:43, MRO wrote to HusTler:

    there are so many people that have got the shot dont even
    have the anti bodies.

    How does that happen? (or not happen?) I never heard that
    argument anywhere.

    The shot is supposed to stimulate the generation of specific
    antibodies.

    But I believe the current shot is a waste since it was designed
    with the original virus in mind. Meanwhile, the dang thing has
    long mutated into something else. So, why is there the
    continued urgency to use an ineffective formula?

    people like me who are healthy and probably have the
    antibodies are the only ones that will be okay from a
    health standpoint. but we will all suffer again with more
    shutdowns and closed businesses. -+-

    The closed businesses are the real killer wrt the economics of
    providing income for the operators of those businesses. The
    banks and credit card companies don't do anything to help
    either.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 13 22:18:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    On 8/6/2021 6:59 PM, Gamgee wrote:
    More evidence that you're a moron. I'm about as far from a Leftie as
    one can get, other than you extreme fringe fanatics. I'm a staunch conservative and voted for Trump. My other postings here and elsewhere
    are easy verifications of what I'm saying.

    It's assholes like you that give the Right Wing a bad reputation.

    No shit... I'm a pretty pragmatic, conservative leaning
    libertarian, have been for well over a decade now... I work in
    the elections space, and it's been absolutely crazy. I
    completely believe that there was various forms of stuffing and
    fraud in the election, that it's pretty typical even... You

    There is little/no doubt that fraud was rampant, as usual. Yes.

    wouldn't believe the conspiracy bullshit I've gone through, the
    threats, etc this past year... It's astounding.

    Yeah, the lefties play dirty when they see their scams under attack.

    Of course the "If you don't get the shot, you should get shot."
    types are every bit as bad... I mean any sense of personal
    liberty is just about out the window, and I'm in favor of most
    getting vaccinated. My family has, I haven't (history of GBS).
    Totally understand the distrust and the actions around the left
    don't inspire anything resembling confidence, but the 33% number
    is so far beyond bullshit it's not even funny.

    I know. Not sure how anyone with *ANY* intelligence can claim that 33%
    of all people who get vaccinated, die. That's roughly 60 Million people
    dead, and he thinks that wouldn't be in the news. I've quit responding
    to both of the Beavis and Butthead idiots because they're just too
    stupid to waste any time on.



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  • From Atroxi@VERT to HusTler on Sat Aug 14 13:14:00 2021
    HusTler wrote to All <=-

    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is
    this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And
    some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back.
    New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

    It's been quite a pain here in the Philippines. We're in the middle of a two-week ``complete'' lockdown. So movement within the cities are very restrained. Before that I was already doing some side work but it got
    cut due to that. I hope when it winds down I would be able to go back to work.

    The vaccination effort is abysmal. Our country lagged behind on getting their fair
    share of vaccines and thus had to wait for our turn. Once the vaccines arrive, however, the process has been rife with nepotism and corruption. There are even reports where they would jab you the needle but not give you the vaccine.

    Though personally I'm not very keen on getting vaccinated right now.
    I'd rather have other, more vulnerable, people take the vaccine so that even if

    I get the virus that I wouldn't potentially endanger anyone.

    A lot of people feel a bit frantic right now here, probably because they're already sick and tired of not being to go to work and do stuff outside.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sat Aug 14 01:43:22 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Fri Aug 13 2021 12:26 pm

    There's enough evidence showing it's less than fully effective, and that vaccinated can still be carriers (but much shorter periods of time, much lower transmission rates). Trace analysis and statistical models show
    some of this as well, it's largely overblown though.

    Didn't take the time to search harder for a COVID-19 specific reference,
    but the same rules largely apply as they did with the SARS variant...


    so if you get the shot you have minimal symptoms. you would probably have minimal symptoms anyways.

    i dont believe any of their bullshit. this virus has been highly politicized. we can't trust their studies and their facts because they are being tinkered with.

    i cant trust anybody. i can only trust what i see.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat Aug 14 01:46:53 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ogg to MRO on Fri Aug 13 2021 06:57 pm

    Hello MRO!

    ** On Friday 13.08.21 - 09:43, MRO wrote to HusTler:

    there are so many people that have got the shot dont even
    have the anti bodies.

    How does that happen? (or not happen?) I never heard that
    argument anywhere.


    i heard it on the radio. the cdc did some announcement. then they
    say it can be common with all vaccines.

    it's obviously not effective if you can actually get the virus after being vaccinated.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Aug 14 08:24:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 14.08.21 - 01:46, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    there are so many people that have got the shot dont
    even have the anti bodies.

    [...]

    i heard it on the radio. the cdc did some announcement.
    then they say it can be common with all vaccines.

    it's obviously not effective if you can actually get the
    virus after being vaccinated. -+-

    Thx. I read your original comment to mean that there were no
    actual antibodies detected. But.. you mean that people still
    get sick with a flu. Kinda makes sense, 'cuz people would be
    getting sick from a variation or mutation of the alpha version
    by now.

    I'd love to hear "the science" behind how likely is the alpha
    version to be a risk out in the world now 18 months later.
    It's probably died off, and the jab is innoculating people with
    no effectiveness.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat Aug 14 10:49:59 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Aug 14 2021 08:24 am

    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 14.08.21 - 01:46, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    there are so many people that have got the shot dont
    even have the anti bodies.

    [...]

    i heard it on the radio. the cdc did some announcement.
    then they say it can be common with all vaccines.

    it's obviously not effective if you can actually get the
    virus after being vaccinated. -+-

    Thx. I read your original comment to mean that there were no
    actual antibodies detected. But.. you mean that people still

    people are getting the covid shot and they are being tested later and a lot of them have no antibodies. so the shot was useless.

    I'd love to hear "the science" behind how likely is the alpha
    version to be a risk out in the world now 18 months later.
    It's probably died off, and the jab is innoculating people with
    no effectiveness.

    the shot is just to make people feel safe. we have no control over this. everything's been tried.

    best thing is to be healthy.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sat Aug 14 09:00:58 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Aug 14 2021 01:46 am

    it's obviously not effective if you can actually get the virus after being vaccinated.

    I don't think anyone ever said it's 100% effective and would always prevent you from getting the virus. They say it reduces the chances of getting the virus though.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Fri Aug 13 07:10:00 2021
    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    this isnt wikipedia. i dont have to provide citations. you can use
    google and find it easy. it goes all the way back to the 80s.

    If you can't provide credible citations, you're talking out of your ass
    again and will be ignored.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Fri Aug 13 07:11:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    If somebody trusts the vaccine he will be taking it because he wants
    its benefits. If he doesn't, you can't tell him having it is a
    patriotic or communitary act because, for him, the vaccine is no good.
    You may as well tell him to inject water in the name of The Community.

    Benefits, like having a hospital bed open when s/he has a heart attack,
    stroke or other medical issue involving an ICU?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Aug 14 13:12:40 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Aug 14 2021 09:00 am

    Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Aug 14 2021 01:46 am

    it's obviously not effective if you can actually get the virus after being vaccinated.

    I don't think anyone ever said it's 100% effective and would always

    prevent
    you from getting the virus. They say it reduces the chances of getting the virus though.

    quit making excuses for them
    they dont even say it reduces the chances of getting the virus anymore.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Aug 14 13:54:13 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Aug 13 2021 07:10 am

    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    this isnt wikipedia. i dont have to provide citations. you can use google and find it easy. it goes all the way back to the 80s.

    If you can't provide credible citations, you're talking out of your ass again and will be ignored.

    i just named names, dumb ass. quit thinking out of your ass.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Sat Aug 14 10:39:00 2021
    Yeah, if I hadn't had GBS, would definitely be getting the shot... still against government ordered mask mandates and lock-downs though.

    Overall, I also am but came to realize that there are many more people than
    I realized who will ignore "suggestions" of masks, social distancing, and reducing social interactions that I could have ever imagined. I have
    shifted from being strongly against them to being against them but
    believing they may be necessary.


    * SLMR 2.1a * I wish Noah had swatted those two mosquitoes.....

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Sat Aug 14 11:01:00 2021
    I'd love to hear "the science" behind how likely is the alpha
    version to be a risk out in the world now 18 months later.
    It's probably died off, and the jab is innoculating people with
    no effectiveness.

    They have been running some stories in the US over the past week that the Moderna shot is still effective against Delta, but at a lower percentage,
    like 76%. The other shots are not nearly as effective. Ooops.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Aug 14 18:48:31 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Aug 13 2021 07:11 am

    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    If somebody trusts the vaccine he will be taking it because he wants its benefits. If he doesn't, you can't tell him having it is a patriotic or communitary act because, for him, the vaccine is no good. You may as well tell him to inject water in the name of The Community.

    Benefits, like having a hospital bed open when s/he has a heart attack, stroke or other medical issue involving an ICU?


    ... No appropriate tagline.

    I know nobody that, trusting the vaccine, takes it in order to offload the burden from
    hospitals.

    Given the adoption rate in most of the world, I don't buy the argument that unvaccined people is
    going to flood hospitals and prevent vaccined peolpe from accessing their services. That is
    fearmongering to the extreme.

    If anything, what we should be freaking out is about all the fearmongering we are getting.

    I dn't watch TV but I have been told the Spanish media is in a campaign regarding nursing homes.
    They are focusing in the rising COVID cases in nursing homes and placing the spotlight in workers
    that have not taken the vaccine, claiming that they are infecting the elders there. It does not
    take a genius to classify this as a FUD campaign since around 98% or elders are vaccined... either
    the vaccines are effective and most elders are safe from severe effects, in which case FUDing
    against unvaccined workers is stupid (and besides, most are getting the shot anyway) or the
    vaccines are less than effective, in which case news blaming unvaccined people are stupid because
    the vaccine makes no difference.

    As things stand, take the vaccine if you trust it, and don't take it if you don't trust it.
    Foccusing on what "the other side" does is quite stupid since it does not affect you whether the
    vaccines are the ultimate cure against everything of whether they are just a placebo saline
    solution.

    I think the only case in which fear would be _somehow_ justified is if you trust the vaccine to be
    a mitigator but a much less than perfect solution. Say, you think the vaccine is likely to reduce
    the number of hospitalitations but it is unlikely to make a dent in infection numbers - which is
    something governments have started to say as of late. My opinion is that anybody who thinks this
    should take the vaccine and then assume the vaccine is not going to eradicate the virus anyway, and
    then stop caring for the people who is not taking it, because the fact they are taking it or not is
    not decisive when it comes to erradicate the disease. If you think the vaccine is a mitigator, you
    don't think it is a solution, pretty much by definition.

    Frankly, it is quite scary to realize the pro-vaccine / anti-vaccine schism is quite destructive
    for society, far beyond the consequences of taking or not taking the vaccines regardless of their
    effectiveness. We have de-facto destroyed the right to professional health secret because many
    employers and human resources people is asking quite directly whether employees have taken the
    vaccine or not, and not taking silence for an answer. It is socially unnaceptable for them to ask
    about ANY OTHER medical condition or treatment. It is the GDPR era and you cannot even ask somebody
    if they have a "greencard" unless you are in legal obligation, much less ask them if they have AIDs
    or ASD or whatever, but somehow COVID gets a pass and everybody thinks it is right.

    The COVID crisis has proved it only gets fear to force people into willingly cancelling their own
    rights without realizing. That is so much more scary than needing an hospital room and not having
    it because one of the 2% of the people who didn't take the vaccine took your room.

    Heck, it feels like I am surounded by people who is afraid of being struck by lightning but then
    drive without the seatbelt on.

    Fear is cancer and we have to rip it out.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 15 07:51:00 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Sat Aug 14 2021 10:39 am

    Overall, I also am but came to realize that there are many more people than
    I realized who will ignore "suggestions" of masks, social distancing, and

    I don't know what to believe anymore. Between the elections and covid I no longer trust the US government, period. I got the vaccinations which I'll probably regret someday. I now avoid people completely and wearing a mask is as routine as putting on a shirt. This is what works for me. If you have another way then good for you. I won't be having any empathy for people that get sick and die from covid. My feeling is they were given the opportunity to prevent it and refused the vacination. It's the same as a smoker dying of lung cancer. I know people that believe their smoking doesn't hurt their lungs and refuse to quit. I know people with liver disease that refuse to stop drinking alcohol. There are many illness's that can be prevented or lessened. People chose to do things their own way and live their lives they way they want to. It's called "Live and Let Live".

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Aug 15 09:53:20 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Aug 14 2021 06:48 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Aug 13 2021 07:11 am

    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    If somebody trusts the vaccine he will be taking it because he wants its benefits. If he doesn't, you can't tell him having it is a patriotic or communitary act because, for him, the vaccine is no good. You may as well tell him to inject water in the name of The Community.

    Benefits, like having a hospital bed open when s/he has a heart attack, stroke or other medical issue involving an ICU?


    I know nobody that, trusting the vaccine, takes it in order to offload the burden from
    hospitals.



    the great thing about the vaccine is they say that if you take it, you can still get the virus, but it wont BE THAT BAD. well then what can happen? the good ole virus can mutate inside these people and create something that can kill more than a very very very small amount of people.

    people with poindexter are too brainwashed to realize this. he believes everything the liberals tell him. masks work [cdc says they now know they do not] vaccines work! [virologists say it will mutate inside vaccinated people].

    it just amazes me how stupid people are.

    we are seriously fucked. we might create our own fucking plague.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sun Aug 15 09:59:08 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 15 2021 07:51 am

    no longer trust the US government, period. I got the vaccinations which I'll probably regret someday. I now avoid people completely and wearing a mask is as routine as putting on a shirt. This is what works for me. If you have another way then good for you. I won't be having any empathy for people that get sick and die from covid. My feeling is they were given the opportunity to prevent it and refused the vacination. It's the same as a smoker dying of lung cancer. I know people that believe their smoking doesn't hurt their

    the vaccine isnt preventing the virus. people that are vaccinated are spreading the virus and it can mutate in these people. geting the vaccine isnt preventing anything.

    wearing a mask does nothing. it's a microscopic virus.

    what if the virus is on an object? you touch an object x amount of hours after taking it into your home. you then touch your eye, or whatever and now you have exposed yourself. the mask didnt help there, either.

    you took something that was experimental and you have you way of suing these companies because of their contracts with the government. you have no idea what this did to your body.

    if you die, i will have remorse for you, regardless of your decisions.
    please stop believing in the bullshit they are feeding people.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 16 07:28:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm sorry, but if roughly 20% of the general population (33% of 60%)
    died in the past year, I think more people would have noticed. Even if either number is inflated, more than 1% of the population dying within
    a year would be deeply noticed.

    You are assuming that "noticed" means "reported".

    The vaccine negative impact system is not a mandatory use system and is notorious for not being very good.

    Of course, you won't hear any of this from the Propaganda Ministry, who have been sinning by omission for decades.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Mon Aug 16 07:50:00 2021
    MRO wrote to HusTler <=-

    there are so many people that have got the shot dont even have the anti bodies.

    Oh, they have the anti-bodies. One misconception that people have is that vaccines prevent you from getting a disease. This is false.

    A vaccine does nothing more than train your body to fight the disease when you do get it.

    So getting vaxxed doesn't stop you from getting COVID. It's supposed to simply prevent you from getting really sick and dying from COVID. But you will still show symptoms
    and spread it.

    For a disease that has a 99.9% survival rate. Only a very small (i.e. .1%) group of high risk people actually needed to get vaxxed.

    (All this is making the assumption that the COVID vax actually works, and there is absolutely no evidence for that.)

    when winter comes around, here comes the shit show. doesnt matter if
    you have a mask, vaccine or not vaccine.

    Winter is also known as "low Vitamin D season" and vitamin D has long been known to
    help with the immune system. Those of us who live in the northern parts should be
    taking a vitamin D suppliment pretty much all year long.

    people like me who are healthy and probably have the antibodies are the only ones that will be okay from a health standpoint. but we will all suffer again with more shutdowns and closed businesses.

    Yup. Because COVID has never a health issue. It was an excuse to let the Leftie
    Elites take away our rights.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 16 08:05:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Of course the "If you don't get the shot, you should get shot." types
    are every bit as bad... I mean any sense of personal liberty is just
    about out the window, and I'm in favor of most getting vaccinated.

    Our country has had a problem with the Elites for a long time.

    The Elites are people who believe that they are born to rule. That they are "better" than every one else. That everyone should just give up their rights and do what the Elites tell them because they can run things sooo much better than the rest of us.

    Never mind that every time (and I mean, EVERY time) that the Elites have been in charge they have completely messed things up.

    I'm not in favor of most getting vaccinated. The VAST majority will not benefit
    from it and, like every vaccine, there are negative consequences. (On top of that
    the COVID vax type has NEVER been successful and always had bad side effects.)

    But it should be up to the person and not mandated - especially by anyone in gov't.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 16 08:08:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to MRO <=-

    There's enough evidence showing it's less than fully effective, and
    that vaccinated can still be carriers (but much shorter periods of
    time, much lower transmission rates). Trace analysis and statistical models show some of this as well, it's largely overblown though.

    The COVID vax type is not a sterlizing vaccine. All it was supposed to do is build up immunity. And there's plenty of evidence that it's not working very well for that.

    But they've known from day 1 that the vax would not prevent people from getting COVID and being carriers. The vax was NEVER supposed to do that.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Mon Aug 16 08:10:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    I don't think anyone ever said it's 100% effective and would always prevent you from getting the virus.

    You haven't been listening to your gov't "officials" then.

    They say it reduces the chances of getting the virus though.

    If they said that, they lied. No vaccine does that.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DR. WHAT on Mon Aug 16 11:22:00 2021
    Winter is also known as "low Vitamin D season" and vitamin D has long been known to
    help with the immune system. Those of us who live in the northern parts shoul
    be
    taking a vitamin D suppliment pretty much all year long.

    It is also the time of year when people are packed indoors more and not
    going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed together in an indoor environment.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dr. What on Tue Aug 17 07:37:34 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 16 2021 08:05 am

    Our country has had a problem with the Elites for a long time.

    The Elites are people who believe that they are born to rule. That they are "better" than every one else. That everyone should just give up their rights and do what the Elites tell them because they can run things sooo much better than the rest of us.

    Who do you consider "ELites"??

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HUSTLER on Wed Aug 18 08:11:00 2021
    Quoting Hustler to Dr. What <=-

    The Elites are people who believe that they are born to rule. That they are "better" than every one else. That everyone should just give up their rights and do what the Elites tell them because they can run things sooo much better than the rest of us.

    Who do you consider "ELites"??

    I made that clear in my message quoted above. But if you want names,
    here's a few:
    Pelosi
    Clintons
    Fauci
    And you can include anyone who takes what these people say as though
    it's the word of God.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Wed Aug 18 08:52:21 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to HUSTLER on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:11 am

    Quoting Hustler to Dr. What <=-

    The Elites are people who believe that they are born to rule. That they are "better" than every one else. That everyone should just give up their rights and do what the Elites tell them because they can run things sooo much better than the rest of us.

    Who do you consider "ELites"??

    I made that clear in my message quoted above. But if you want names,
    here's a few:
    Pelosi
    Clintons
    Fauci
    And you can include anyone who takes what these people say as though
    it's the word of God.



    i think you mean these people https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/lifestyle/who-owns-your-news-the-top-100-digital-news-outlets-and-their-ownership/#:~:text=About%2015%20billionaires%20and%20six,Amusements%20(which%20includes%20Viacom%20Inc.

    https://tinyurl.com/4hjjjf4v
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Thu Aug 19 08:14:00 2021
    Quoting Mro to Dr. What <=-

    i think you mean these people https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/lifestyle/who-owns-your-news- the-top-100-digital-news-outlets-and-their-ownership/#:~:text=About%2015 %20billionaires%20and%20six,Amusements%20(which%20includes%20Viacom%20In c.
    https://tinyurl.com/4hjjjf4v

    I can't tell. I BBS on my Compaq Portable 386 (red gas plasma display
    and no internet). So links - even short ones - aren't going to get hand
    typed in.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Thu Aug 19 08:48:35 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Thu Aug 19 2021 08:14 am

    Quoting Mro to Dr. What <=-

    i think you mean these people https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/lifestyle/who-owns-your-news- the-top-100-digital-news-outlets-and-their-ownership/#:~:text=About%201 5 %20billionaires%20and%20six,Amusements%20(which%20includes%20Viacom%2 0In c.
    https://tinyurl.com/4hjjjf4v

    I can't tell. I BBS on my Compaq Portable 386 (red gas plasma display
    and no internet). So links - even short ones - aren't going to get hand typed in.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to HusTler on Thu Aug 26 23:30:39 2021
    So what does everyone think about this Covid shit? How fucked up is this? 40 percent of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. WTF?? And some people vaccinated are getting the Delta strain. Masks are back. New York City is paying 100 bucks to anyone not vaccinated to get vaccinated. What's going on in your State? Whats happening in Spain and Euro?? I buddy of mine left for Isreal yesterday. I wonder if he'll be allowed back. Here we GO again!

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 27 02:51:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-


    It is also the time of year when people are packed indoors more and not going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed together in
    an indoor environment.

    That is true, but the infections rate is raising.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to plt on Fri Aug 27 16:13:14 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:51 am

    not going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed
    together in an indoor environment.

    That is true, but the infections rate is raising.

    Now they call it "the unvaccinated virus". hmmmmm

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sat Aug 28 08:19:45 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to plt on Fri Aug 27 2021 04:13 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:51 am

    not going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed
    together in an indoor environment.

    That is true, but the infections rate is raising.

    Now they call it "the unvaccinated virus". hmmmmm

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PLT on Sat Aug 28 09:30:00 2021
    It is also the time of year when people are packed indoors more and not going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed together in an indoor environment.

    That is true, but the infections rate is raising.

    Here, some public schools started back to in-person at the beginning of
    August. Since younger kids cannot be vaccinated yet, I am not really surprised. There were counties in my state just two weeks ago that were reporting zero active cases. Now the whole state is in the "red" category.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 28 15:35:22 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to PLT on Sat Aug 28 2021 09:30 am

    It is also the time of year when people are packed indoors more and not going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed together in an indoor environment.

    That is true, but the infections rate is raising.

    Here, some public schools started back to in-person at the beginning of August. Since younger kids cannot be vaccinated yet, I am not really surprised. There were counties in my state just two weeks ago that were reporting zero active cases. Now the whole state is in the "red" category.


    who knows if this is true, but i've read here and there that it's important that there's a lot of DELTA infections so it will decrease the likelyhood of infections with the LAMBDA variant which is supposed to be much worse.

    i had covid and i'm okay after about 10 days. i did have 3 bad days of various issues. i'm pretty sure i had delta.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Sun Aug 29 01:12:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to PLT on Sat Aug 28 2021 09:30 am

    It is also the time of year when people are packed indoors more and not going outside as much. Viruses usually love people packed together in an indoor environment.

    That is true, but the infections rate is raising.

    Here, some public schools started back to in-person at the beginning of August. Since younger kids cannot be vaccinated yet, I am not really surprised. There were counties in my state just two weeks ago that were reporting zero active cases. Now the whole state is in the "red" category.


    who knows if this is true, but i've read here and there that it's important that there's a lot of DELTA infections so it will decrease
    the likelyhood of infections with the LAMBDA variant which is supposed
    to be much worse.

    That is not good. If everyone would take this more serious by getting their shot, wear a mask, stop fighting the mask requirements and keep our social distance we can slow the virus down.




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Sun Aug 29 09:25:50 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 01:12 am

    who knows if this is true, but i've read here and there that it's important that there's a lot of DELTA infections so it will decrease the likelyhood of infections with the LAMBDA variant which is supposed to be much worse.

    That is not good. If everyone would take this more serious by getting their shot, wear a mask, stop fighting the mask requirements and keep our social distance we can slow the virus down.



    i guess you cant read.


    it's important there's a lot of delta infections.

    it's important.
    otherwise lambda comes by which is vaccine resistant.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Aug 29 10:16:00 2021
    who knows if this is true, but i've read here and there that it's important at there's a lot of DELTA infections so it will decrease the likelyhood of in
    ctions with the LAMBDA variant which is supposed to be much worse.

    It has been a while since I have heard much about Lambda. I have not
    assumed that means it is not coming, just that Delta was taking up all the
    news time.

    i had covid and i'm okay after about 10 days. i did have 3 bad days of various
    ssues. i'm pretty sure i had delta.

    Well, that seems to be the predominant strain so that would be likely.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Sun Aug 29 16:27:00 2021
    MRO wrote to plt <=-

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 01:12 am

    who knows if this is true, but i've read here and there that it's important that there's a lot of DELTA infections so it will decrease the likelyhood of infections with the LAMBDA variant which is supposed to be much worse.

    That is not good. If everyone would take this more serious by getting their shot, wear a mask, stop fighting the mask requirements and keep our social distance we can slow the virus down.



    i guess you cant read.


    it's important there's a lot of delta infections.

    it's important.


    WEAR A MASK.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Sun Aug 29 17:18:00 2021
    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    That is not good. If everyone would take this more serious by getting their shot, wear a mask, stop fighting the mask requirements and keep
    our social distance we can slow the virus down.

    At least we didn't drink the cool-aid.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Sun Aug 29 17:18:00 2021
    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    WEAR A MASK.

    Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Sun Aug 29 18:02:40 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 17:18:00

    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    WEAR A MASK.

    Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.


    ... A nuclear war can ruin your whole day...


    What are you refering to? Wearing mask helps prevent the spread of the virus.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Sun Aug 29 18:38:26 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:27 pm

    it's important there's a lot of delta infections.

    it's important.


    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sun Aug 29 18:39:52 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 05:18 pm

    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    That is not good. If everyone would take this more serious by getting their shot, wear a mask, stop fighting the mask requirements and keep our social distance we can slow the virus down.

    At least we didn't drink the cool-aid.

    "slow the virus down"

    poor phil is seriously on the kool aid. he's repeating bullshit from a year ago.

    the virus cant be slowed down. we cant flatten the curve.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Sun Aug 29 18:41:12 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Sun Aug 29 2021 06:02 pm

    WEAR A MASK.

    Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.


    ... A nuclear war can ruin your whole day...


    What are you refering to? Wearing mask helps prevent the spread of the virus.

    no it doesnt. my mom wore a mask and gloves. she died of covid.
    i wear a mask all the time. i wear a mask and gloves at work and i sanitize when i touch different items. i still got it from a dude at work.

    you dont know shit
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Sun Aug 29 20:08:44 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:38:26

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:27 pm

    it's important there's a lot of delta infections.

    it's important.


    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.

    For those then its on them if they get the virus.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Sun Aug 29 20:10:04 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:39:52

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 05:18 pm

    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    That is not good. If everyone would take this more serious by getting their shot, wear a mask, stop fighting the mask
    requirements and keep our social distance we can slow the virus down.

    At least we didn't drink the cool-aid.

    "slow the virus down"

    poor phil is seriously on the kool aid. he's repeating bullshit from a year ago.

    the virus cant be slowed down. we cant flatten the curve.

    No bull shit. Look and see the facts. The virus is nothing to bull shit over.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Sun Aug 29 20:29:36 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:38:26

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:27 pm

    it's important there's a lot of delta infections.

    it's important.


    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.

    That is childish language for a individual that is adult. Wearing a mask and social distance help prevent the spread of the virus. Thanks to Trump for playing down the issue when it started, it could have prevented more people from getting infected.

    Since the start I took measures to protected my self, so I never do it. One thing I never listen to Trump B.S when this all started.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Mon Aug 30 06:51:39 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 08:08 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:38:26

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:27 pm

    it's important there's a lot of delta infections.

    it's important.


    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.

    For those then its on them if they get the virus.


    i thought it stops transmission? i'm around people with masks

    tell me doctor, how did this happen?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Mon Aug 30 06:52:16 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 08:10 pm

    year ago.

    the virus cant be slowed down. we cant flatten the curve.

    No bull shit. Look and see the facts. The virus is nothing to bull shit over.

    fuck off, biden lover.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Mon Aug 30 06:53:49 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 08:29 pm

    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.

    That is childish language for a individual that is adult. Wearing a mask and social distance help prevent the spread of the virus. Thanks to Trump for playing down the issue when it started, it could have prevented more people from getting infected.

    Since the start I took measures to protected my self, so I never do it. One thing I never listen to Trump B.S when this all started.


    fuck you.

    it's not your job to play doctor on dovenet.

    you're some disabled guy with no life who never leaves his room.

    shut up with this bullshit.
    you know nothing about politics or virology.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Mon Aug 30 08:15:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    WEAR A MASK.

    Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.

    What are you refering to? Wearing mask helps prevent the spread of the virus.

    We have decades of studies showing otherwise.

    The only people who say masks work (in general) are the Leftie Control Freaks, their Propaganda Ministry and the sheeple who blindly believe what they say.

    There are very narrow situations where masks help. But general mandating of masks is simply ignorant.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Mon Aug 30 08:17:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

    poor phil is seriously on the kool aid. he's repeating bullshit from a year ago.

    The Left believes that if they keep repeating the lies that they will turn into truth.

    the virus cant be slowed down. we cant flatten the curve.

    Technically we did. But that was because the "experts" (you know, the ones out, standing in their fields) who predicted that the virus would wipe out civilization if we didn't do something, were completely wrong.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Mon Aug 30 08:28:00 2021
    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    That is childish language for a individual that is adult. Wearing a
    mask and social distance help prevent the spread of the virus.

    No, it doesn't. And if you will actually look up the information rather than listen to the Narrative that the Propaganda Ministry (the Media) pushes, you'd see that for yourself.

    Thanks
    to Trump for playing down the issue when it started, it could have prevented more people from getting infected.

    Ahh.. Another case of TDS here.

    COVID has a recovery rate for 99%+. For young people, it's like 99.99%. For older people, it's closer to 99%.

    Trump didn't "downplay" the issue. That's false Leftie Narrative. He accurately assessed the virus.

    Since the start I took measures to protected my self, so I never do it.

    Since the start, I did absolutely NOTHING different to "protect" myself.

    I just kept my healthy live style. Ate right. Exercised. I've been taking a vitamin D suppliment daily for years (doctor's orders).

    And guess, what? No COVID. Not even light symptoms.

    One thing I never listen to Trump B.S when this all started.

    Yet you continue to listen to the BS from the Propaganda Ministry that's been proven false.

    Interesting thing:
    Out of all the people I know, I know of no one who has died from COVID. Yet I know 2 who died from the vaccine.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Mon Aug 30 13:52:31 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Mon Aug 30 2021 08:15 am

    What are you refering to? Wearing mask helps prevent the spread of the virus.

    We have decades of studies showing otherwise.

    The only people who say masks work (in general) are the Leftie Control Freaks, their Propaganda Ministry and the sheeple who blindly believe what they say.

    There are very narrow situations where masks help. But general mandating of masks is simply ignorant.


    if masks worked, we'd be wearing masks for hundreds of years and most people wouldnt get sick.

    also in china they were wearing masks for a long time. i don't think it ever really helped them.

    now govts and health agencies are saying that hand washing and distancing helps better than masks.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Mon Aug 30 13:08:51 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Mon Aug 30 2021 01:52 pm

    if masks worked, we'd be wearing masks for hundreds of years and most people wouldnt get sick.

    also in china they were wearing masks for a long time. i don't think it ever really helped them.

    I don't think masks are (or were ever) 100% effective in preventing disease. They just reduce the chances of spreading it, not totally prevent it.

    Nightfox

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Mon Aug 30 19:20:17 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Mon Aug 30 2021 08:15:00

    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    WEAR A MASK.

    Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.

    What are you refering to? Wearing mask helps prevent the spread of the virus.

    We have decades of studies showing otherwise.

    The only people who say masks work (in general) are the Leftie Control Freaks, their Propaganda Ministry and the sheeple who
    blindly believe what they say.

    There are very narrow situations where masks help. But general mandating of masks is simply ignorant.


    ... War never decides who is right, only who is left.

    Try reading stuff posted by CDC. It helps prevent is but social distance in a must.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Aug 30 21:15:15 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Aug 30 2021 01:08 pm


    also in china they were wearing masks for a long time. i don't think it ever really helped them.

    I don't think masks are (or were ever) 100% effective in preventing disease. They just reduce the chances of spreading it, not totally prevent it.

    you have no proof that it helped at all.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Mon Aug 30 21:16:09 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Mon Aug 30 2021 07:20 pm


    Try reading stuff posted by CDC. It helps prevent is but social distance in a must.


    then what? we should turn on CNN and turn the volume all the way up?

    cut our dicks off and dye our hair purple?
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Mon Aug 30 23:44:26 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Mon Aug 30 2021 21:16:09

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Mon Aug 30 2021 07:20 pm


    Try reading stuff posted by CDC. It helps prevent is but social distance in a must.


    then what? we should turn on CNN and turn the volume all the way up?

    cut our dicks off and dye our hair purple?

    Your acting like a little child. Shame on you.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Mon Aug 30 23:46:27 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Mon Aug 30 2021 21:16:09

    cut our dicks off and dye our hair purple?

    Your mother did not teach you any manners.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Tue Aug 31 07:44:44 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 06:38 pm

    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.

    You got it from someone that didn't wear a mask or someone you had sex with?

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Tue Aug 31 08:07:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

    if masks worked, we'd be wearing masks for hundreds of years and most people wouldnt get sick.

    Yup. We don't wear a mask during flu season. We didn't wear a mask when SARS hit under Obama. Why is this any different?

    also in china they were wearing masks for a long time. i don't think it ever really helped them.

    They were mostly wearing masks due to the air pollution. Those particles are large enough where a mask will help somewhat. Sort of like wearing a mask when you are doing woodworking with lots of sanding.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Tue Aug 31 08:09:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Try reading stuff posted by CDC. It helps prevent is but social
    distance in a must.

    They also have studies that show that masks don't work and that the COVID "vaccine" is not a vaccine.

    So either the CDC is right, or wrong. Which is it?

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Tue Aug 31 08:18:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    I don't think masks are (or were ever) 100% effective in preventing disease. They just reduce the chances of spreading it, not totally prevent it.

    That will depend on the mask and the situation.

    Those homemade cloth masks that people wear do nothing.

    The surgical masks do prevent the person wearing them from spreading something if they have it (which is why surgeons wear them). But those masks are for short term wear (like an hour max). After that, they become pretty nasty.

    The N-95s are effective in keeping the wearer safe - if they are properly fitted (and most are not). But do not keep the wearer from spreading what ever they have. They have a downside of greatly reducing oxygen, though, and should not be worn for an extended period of time.

    But all this is for a virus that has a less than 0.05% chance of killing you that won't be going away anytime. The human immune system is the best defence against it.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Tue Aug 31 08:37:14 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Mon Aug 30 2021 11:46 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Mon Aug 30 2021 21:16:09

    cut our dicks off and dye our hair purple?

    Your mother did not teach you any manners.

    you are seriously going to reply twice to one msg?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Tue Aug 31 08:38:41 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Aug 31 2021 07:44 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 06:38 pm

    WEAR A MASK.

    fuck you. i did wear a mask and i still got sick.

    You got it from someone that didn't wear a mask or someone you had sex with?


    everyone i'm around wears masks and social distances.
    and the hookers say they are clean
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Tue Aug 31 08:39:05 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Tue Aug 31 2021 08:07 am

    They were mostly wearing masks due to the air pollution. Those particles are large enough where a mask will help somewhat. Sort of like wearing a mask when you are doing woodworking with lots of sanding.


    they wear them around flu season too. they think it helps.
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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Dr. What on Tue Aug 31 09:39:23 2021
    On 2021-08-31 8:18 a.m., Dr. What wrote:

    The N-95s are effective in keeping the wearer safe - if they are properly fitted (and most are not).

    Especially when you see that they don't even fit it over the nose. Why
    wear it then?

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Tue Aug 31 18:57:00 2021
    plt wrote <=-

    Try reading stuff posted by CDC.

    Those who follow the CDC as a godly presence are pretty brainwashed. The CDC itself does NOT do most of the drug testing, they outsource it to a company headed by a Dr. Grady. Ms. Grady just somehow happens to be married to another Doctor... Anthony Fauci. Fauci himself has been caught on more than one occasion talking out of both sides of his mouth depending on the day of the week it happens to be. If one thinks for one second that Fauci is NOT allowing his twisted thinking influence the CDC through pillow talk then one does not know human nature.

    The CDC's latest readings have to do with the fact that guns are an illness.
    I was totally unaware that a steel object was a disease! Talk about conspiracy theories - it's quite easy to come up with one that the left is using the CDC to help destroy amendments of the Constitution of the United States.

    As long as humans run ANY part of government it will faulter and error.

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  • From MATT MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to Dr. What on Tue Aug 31 17:00:00 2021
    They also have studies that show that masks don't work and that the COVID "vaccine" is not a vaccine.

    Im awaiting the covid jab made out of vegitables.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Tue Aug 31 20:20:26 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Tue Aug 31 2021 18:57:00

    plt wrote <=-

    Try reading stuff posted by CDC.

    Those who follow the CDC as a godly presence are pretty brainwashed. The CDC itself does NOT do most of the drug testing, they
    outsource it to a company headed by a Dr. Grady. Ms. Grady just somehow happens to be married to another Doctor... Anthony
    Fauci.
    Fauci himself has been caught on more than one occasion talking out of both sides of his mouth depending on the day of the week
    it

    That is B.S what your saying. You really need to stop talking Trump trash.

    happens to be. If one thinks for one second that Fauci is NOT allowing his twisted thinking influence the CDC through pillow
    talk
    then one does not know human nature.

    The CDC's latest readings have to do with the fact that guns are an illness. I was totally unaware that a steel object was a disease! Talk about conspiracy theories - it's quite easy to come up with one
    that
    the left is using the CDC to help destroy amendments of the Constitution of the United States.

    As long as humans run ANY part of government it will faulter and error.


    Sounds like you listen to Mr. Trump to much.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Ennev on Wed Sep 1 12:55:00 2021
    Ennev wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The N-95s are effective in keeping the wearer safe - if they are properly fitted (and most are not).

    Especially when you see that they don't even fit it over the nose. Why wear it then?

    Because I assume it's a security blanket. It makes them feel better.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Wed Sep 1 12:58:00 2021
    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    That is B.S what your saying. You really need to stop talking Trump
    trash.

    It's B.S. with video evidence. Of course, since you obviously only get your information from CNN, you won't know any of that.

    Sounds like you listen to Mr. Trump to much.

    Sounds like we have another TDS victim here.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Wed Sep 1 17:44:05 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Tue Aug 31 2021 18:57:00

    plt wrote <=-

    Try reading stuff posted by CDC.

    Those who follow the CDC as a godly presence are pretty brainwashed. The CDC itself does NOT do most of the drug testing, they
    outsource it to a company headed by a Dr. Grady. Ms. Grady just somehow happens to be married to another Doctor... Anthony
    Fauci.
    Fauci himself has been caught on more than one occasion talking out of both sides of his mouth depending on the day of the week
    it
    happens to be. If one thinks for one second that Fauci is NOT allowing his twisted thinking influence the CDC through pillow
    talk
    then one does not know human nature.

    The ones that are only brainwashed or the ones that do not listen to the people that have more education then you.


    The CDC's latest readings have to do with the fact that guns are an illness. I was totally unaware that a steel object was a disease! Talk about conspiracy theories - it's quite easy to come up with one
    that
    the left is using the CDC to help destroy amendments of the Constitution of the United States.

    As long as humans run ANY part of government it will faulter and error.

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    This has nothing to do with guns its about the true facts that you fail to understand.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Wed Sep 1 17:45:06 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Wed Sep 01 2021 12:58:00

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    That is B.S what your saying. You really need to stop talking Trump trash.

    It's B.S. with video evidence. Of course, since you obviously only get your information from CNN, you won't know any of that.

    Sounds like you listen to Mr. Trump to much.

    Sounds like we have another TDS victim here.



    You have a lot of balls to say that. Your making a false statement. Trying sticking with the facts.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Wed Sep 1 21:28:00 2021
    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Sounds like you listen to Mr. Trump to much.

    Fact check it. Sounds like your lubing up your liberal anal cavity too much.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Wed Sep 1 21:30:00 2021
    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    This has nothing to do with guns its about the true facts that you fail
    to understand.

    Then why is the CDC saying guns are an illness? You fail to accept the facts
    as they exist. I'm neither left or right, I review the facts.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 2 02:10:47 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Wed Sep 01 2021 21:30:00

    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    This has nothing to do with guns its about the true facts that you fail to understand.

    Then why is the CDC saying guns are an illness? You fail to accept the facts as they exist. I'm neither left or right, I review the facts.

    ... Old mathematicians never die, they just disintegrate.

    It has nothing to do with CDC. Try and stay on topic next time.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 2 02:13:14 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Wed Sep 01 2021 21:28:00

    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Sounds like you listen to Mr. Trump to much.

    Fact check it. Sounds like your lubing up your liberal anal cavity too much.

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    Your the one talking crazy not me. May be when you where born the doctor slaped in in the head and not in the ass and that is why you got so much damage in in your brian.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to plt on Thu Sep 2 03:07:14 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 02 2021 02:13 am

    I have noticed this place has started devolving into an usenet-like area since people started insulting other people instead of using arguments.

    I enjoy some sporadic flame every now and then, but this one lacks substance. It is not even fun to watch. Therefore I suggest next time anybody here thinks of accusing somebody else of being damaged at birth or being stupid or being a bidenist or a trumpstian or whatever that he comes with a proper argument for his case instead of an insult, or just says silent.

    Thanks.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu Sep 2 08:13:45 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to plt on Thu Sep 02 2021 03:07 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 02 2021 02:13 am

    I have noticed this place has started devolving into an usenet-like area since people started insulting other people instead of using arguments.

    I enjoy some sporadic flame every now and then, but this one lacks substance. It is not even fun to watch. Therefore I suggest next time anybody here thinks of accusing somebody else of being damaged at birth or being stupid or being a bidenist or a trumpstian or whatever that he comes with a proper argument for his case instead of an insult, or just says silent.

    Thanks.


    yeah but you are missing something here.

    we have all known eachother for 20 fucking years in a lot of cases.
    so i KNOW phil is damaged at birth. i know the dude is weird. i have actually defended phil in the past and said he is not as dumb as he acts.

    I don't believe phil has any political knowledge so i don't take what he says seriously. I know he is disabled and probably hurting financially and that's why he picked a side as a democrat.

    I myself, am also not as dumb as I act. I just don't break my back building a case on my qualifications as a human being to people I don't care about.
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  • From Neko@VERT/MIYANET to MRO on Thu Sep 2 15:07:31 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Mon Aug 30 2021 13:52:31

    if masks worked, we'd be wearing masks for hundreds of years and most people wouldnt get sick.

    also in china they were wearing masks for a long time. i don't think it ever really helped them.

    Not every mask can stop the virus. In Poland, there was a flame in media about new regulations - they stopped considering headgears , scarves etc. an anti-COVID protection, so only masks left. The govs were trying to make only surgical or FFP2 masks approved as the protection gear, however they left multi-use masks approved as people were still broadly using them, as it's still better than no protection at all.

    In fact, only surgical and filtering masks are protecting the people in significant percent. That can be one way how masked people get infected too.
    Another way may be when they change or take masks off at home - virus can stay on the material, from there it gets to hands - from where it can get anywhere, like from an airport hub. That's why there procedures of taking a mask off were announced (at least here). Like, disinfecting or washing hands quickly after taking the said mask off.

    A lot of doctors involved in curing COVID who have been infected, say they had the highest chance to get infected when they were undressing their safety suit.

    Finally, even the best masks are efficient in only 95-99% when properly used and there are more infection vectors than respiratory tract.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Thu Sep 2 11:52:00 2021
    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    It has nothing to do with CDC. Try and stay on topic next time.

    You're the one who brought up the CDC, not I, thus making it part of the
    topic at hand.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Thu Sep 2 11:55:00 2021
    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Your the one talking crazy not me. May be when you where born the
    doctor slaped in in the head and not in the ass and that is why you got
    so much damage in in your brian.

    Typical left winger, when you have no substance to say go for the name calling.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Thu Sep 2 14:35:19 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Thu Sep 02 2021 11:52:00

    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    It has nothing to do with CDC. Try and stay on topic next time.

    You're the one who brought up the CDC, not I, thus making it part of the topic at hand.


    I was talking about CDC and the individual that reply to the message included guns which has nothing to do with the CDC.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to plt on Thu Sep 2 20:07:00 2021
    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I was talking about CDC and the individual that reply to the message included guns which has nothing to do with the CDC.

    If you've been paying that much attention about the CDC you'd know:

    - they're trying to make gun control part of their umbrella, a point you
    seem to fail to accept.
    - they don't test drugs, they outsource to the NIH who drafts results in which
    the CDC uses for their reports. The NIH is headed by Dr. Grady - Fauci's wife!
    - several members of the CDC resigned due to the ill-doings of the
    Biden administration... which shows that those who stay are only
    giving rulings for the sake of the liberals not because it's fact.

    I don't see where any of my bullet points were off-topic, but I'll let you
    have your 15 minutes of gloating fame.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Brian Rogers on Fri Sep 3 11:36:56 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Brian Rogers to plt on Thu Sep 02 2021 20:07:00

    plt;

    plt wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I was talking about CDC and the individual that reply to the message included guns which has nothing to do with the CDC.

    If you've been paying that much attention about the CDC you'd know:

    - they're trying to make gun control part of their umbrella, a point you
    seem to fail to accept.
    - they don't test drugs, they outsource to the NIH who drafts results in which
    the CDC uses for their reports. The NIH is headed by Dr. Grady - Fauci's wife!
    - several members of the CDC resigned due to the ill-doings of the
    Biden administration... which shows that those who stay are only
    giving rulings for the sake of the liberals not because it's fact.

    I don't see where any of my bullet points were off-topic, but I'll let you have your 15 minutes of gloating fame.

    ... Old students never die, they just get degraded.

    The topic went from CDC and someone changed the topic about Guns. Read the earler messages. For the youtune that was posted here about the virus is a bunch of BS and is spreading false information. Someone of them in the Video are not even regular doctors.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Gamgee on Fri Sep 3 17:51:51 2021
    On 8/13/2021 8:18 PM, Gamgee wrote:
    wouldn't believe the conspiracy bullshit I've gone through, the
    threats, etc this past year... It's astounding.

    Yeah, the lefties play dirty when they see their scams under attack.

    Far from just the lefties... there are some right wingnuts out there as well... note: I'm also in Arizona and participate in some pretty diverse groups.

    I know. Not sure how anyone with *ANY* intelligence can claim that 33%
    of all people who get vaccinated, die. That's roughly 60 Million people dead, and he thinks that wouldn't be in the news. I've quit responding
    to both of the Beavis and Butthead idiots because they're just too
    stupid to waste any time on.

    Yeah... there's crazy and there's really crazy.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dr. What on Fri Sep 3 17:55:06 2021
    On 8/16/2021 4:28 AM, Dr. What wrote:
    Tracker1 wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Tr> I'm sorry, but if roughly 20% of the general population (33% of 60%)
    Tr> died in the past year, I think more people would have noticed. Even if
    Tr> either number is inflated, more than 1% of the population dying within
    Tr> a year would be deeply noticed.

    You are assuming that "noticed" means "reported".

    The vaccine negative impact system is not a mandatory use system and is notorious for not being very good.

    Of course, you won't hear any of this from the Propaganda Ministry, who have been sinning by omission for decades.

    In a country where anyone can report on things, and social media spreads faster than infection vectors, it would absolutely have been reported. Anything else is purely delusional.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dr. What on Fri Sep 3 17:57:58 2021
    On 8/16/2021 5:08 AM, Dr. What wrote:
    There's enough evidence showing it's less than fully effective, and
    that vaccinated can still be carriers (but much shorter periods of
    time, much lower transmission rates). Trace analysis and statistical
    models show some of this as well, it's largely overblown though.

    The COVID vax type is not a sterlizing vaccine. All it was supposed
    to do is build up immunity. And there's plenty of evidence that it's
    not working very well for that.

    That's what *MOST* vaccines do.

    But they've known from day 1 that the vax would not prevent people
    from getting COVID and being carriers. The vax was NEVER supposed
    to do that.

    Again, that's how vaccines generally work... there have always been breakthrough cases, but the infection rates, length of illness and
    spread factors are greatly reduced.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sat Sep 4 05:58:51 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Tracker1 to Dr. What on Fri Sep 03 2021 05:57 pm

    But they've known from day 1 that the vax would not prevent people
    from getting COVID and being carriers. The vax was NEVER supposed
    to do that.

    Again, that's how vaccines generally work... there have always been breakthrough cases, but the infection rates, length of illness and
    spread factors are greatly reduced.

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a jerkoff that had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.

    whats the point of getting a vaccine. where's the proof that it 'won't be as bad'

    fuck getting the vaccine if you arent at risk.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Fri Sep 3 07:18:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to plt <=-

    Typical left winger, when you have no substance to say go for the name calling.

    I don't think any side gets the moral high ground here.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Sep 4 19:41:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 04.09.21 - 05:58, MRO wrote to Tracker1:

    Again, that's how vaccines generally work... there have
    always been breakthrough cases, but the infection rates,
    length of illness and spread factors are greatly reduced.

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a
    jerkoff that had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Now THAT's interesting.


    whats the point of getting a vaccine. where's the proof
    that it 'won't be as bad'

    There's that, indeed. Besides, the formula for the vacc
    rollout hasn't changed since alpha. So, how can the alpha
    version even help stave off the delta. Makes no sense.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 4 21:02:00 2021
    Hello poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I don't think any side gets the moral high ground here.

    When it comes to government, you're quite correct. The mud is thick on
    both sides.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Tracker1 on Sun Sep 5 07:50:32 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Tracker1 to Dr. What on Fri Sep 03 2021 05:55 pm

    Of course, you won't hear any of this from the Propaganda Ministry, who ha been sinning by omission for decades.

    In a country where anyone can report on things, and social media spreads faster than infection vectors, it would absolutely have been reported. Anything else is purely delusional.

    You know, at this point I could buy the idea that communication corporations would make such a thing invisible within the realms they control. This is, if they really wanted to conceal a people killing vaccine, they could just not mention it on their TV channels and remove any mention in social media as it shows up.

    Seriously, it would work. My experience with things I am actually involved in is that if they make it to a reputable TV station, they are taken seriously, whether if they don't, they end up showing only in small e-jornals and discredited as "facts sourced from an extremist website".

    This is precisely the reason why everybody loves the local Mastiff breed and everybody hates Rottweilers here. Because if a Mastiff bites a kid it does not make it to the news, and if a random dog bites a kid the newspapers report it was a Rottweiler who did id.

    That said, even if communication megacorporations had the power to bannish the people killing vaccine from their platforms, which they have, they don't have the power of letting such a thing go _unnoticed_. At those numbers, the vaccine would be guaranteed to kill at least a member of a sizeable number of families, which is something you can conceal from the news but not from people's perception of reality.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sun Sep 5 08:05:27 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Tracker1 on Sat Sep 04 2021 05:58 am

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a jerkoff that had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.

    whats the point of getting a vaccine. where's the proof that it 'won't be a bad'

    fuck getting the vaccine if you arent at risk.

    The way it is done is you take a control group of people who is unvaccinated, then a control group of people who is, and check some time later how did they go.

    If the vaccinated group got less infections or less severe infections or whatever, it is likely to show up in the results.

    That said, there was a very pro-vaccine article in The Athlantic discussing some similar studies, and the veredict is that vaccine induced immunity is best than nothing, but piss poor compared to natural immunity. I don't remember the numbers but I think it was a full order of magnitude.

    For those who don't follow: it means that somebody who gets the vaccine is ten times (as far as I remember) more likely to get actually sick from the virus than somebody who got the virus early on and developed natural antibodies.

    The article was very long, but the conclussion it draws is that vaccines are mitigators but not a solution (mind you, I have been saying this from the very begining). According to their numbers, the virus will only cease being a problem once it becomes endemic: this is, everybody catches it and develops natural resistance, and those who can't develop natural resistence are wiped out (mind you, my boss at the clinic has been saying that from the very start of the crisis).

    The Athlantic suggests to take the vaccine and brace for impact anyway. Unless you already got the virus, in which case the vaccine is useless on you.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun Sep 5 14:06:41 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Sep 04 2021 07:41 pm

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a
    jerkoff that had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Now THAT's interesting.


    not only that but he's 10 yrs younger and in great physical shape.

    There's that, indeed. Besides, the formula for the vacc
    rollout hasn't changed since alpha. So, how can the alpha
    version even help stave off the delta. Makes no sense.

    it's a shit show. and in my area where there are always tons of covid cases, now we have vaccinated people doing super spreader events and still blaming non vaccinated people.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Sep 5 14:07:58 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 05 2021 08:05 am

    whats the point of getting a vaccine. where's the proof that it 'won't be a bad'

    fuck getting the vaccine if you arent at risk.

    The way it is done is you take a control group of people who is unvaccinated, then a control group of people who is, and check some time later how did they go.


    yeah i know how it's supposed to work. but in today's political climate where facts are covered up and falsehoods are spread, I can't trust anything.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Sun Sep 5 14:18:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to Dr. What <=-

    In a country where anyone can report on things, and social media
    spreads faster than infection vectors, it would absolutely have been reported. Anything else is purely delusional.

    You may not have noticed that the major social media platforms are part of the Propaganda ministry. They kick off anyone who voices something that goes counter to the false Narrative.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Sun Sep 5 14:19:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Again, that's how vaccines generally work... there have always been breakthrough cases, but the infection rates, length of illness and
    spread factors are greatly reduced.

    Then you need to explain this to the "experts" and "leaders" who are saying otherwise.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Tracker1 on Sun Sep 5 14:24:00 2021
    Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Far from just the lefties... there are some right wingnuts out there as well... note: I'm also in Arizona and participate in some pretty
    diverse groups.

    Which is the REAL reason that the establishment political machines wanted Trump out. He was showing the country what a non-political person could do and the swamp-critters (on both the Left and Right) did not want that to continue.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Sun Sep 5 14:30:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a jerkoff that
    had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.

    They aren't vaccines.

    From the Oxford English Dictionary. A vaccine is:
    "a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

    The COVID vax is not prepared from the causative agent of the disease. It's a set or RNA that makes your body produce "anti-bodies" for COVID.

    This RNA "vaccine" research has been going on for a long time and has always failed. What's the chances that they got a success on this one? Pretty much 0%.

    Oh, and the vast majority of the population already got COVID back in 2019-2020, showed almost no symptoms and recovered. Yet the "experts" say that they need to get vaxxed too. Not following science there.

    whats the point of getting a vaccine.

    If you are in a high risk group, the vaccine might give you a better chance of survival if you get COVID. But for everyone else, it does nothing (and in some cases, worse than nothing).

    where's the proof that it 'won't be as bad'

    None exists. Which is why the vax manufacturers are immune from prosecution over vax problems.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Ogg on Sun Sep 5 14:32:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a
    jerkoff that had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Now THAT's interesting.

    Not really. There has been plenty of anecdotal evidence showing that getting vaxxed makes you more suspectable to variant strains.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Sun Sep 5 14:36:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to MRO <=-

    The way it is done is you take a control group of people who is unvaccinated, then a control group of people who is, and check some
    time later how did they go.

    If the vaccinated group got less infections or less severe infections
    or whatever, it is likely to show up in the results.

    In my opinion, this is why they want everyone vaxxed.

    If 50% of the population is not vaxxed you have a control group that you cannot hide or explain away.

    In (however many) years, we start seeing major health problems from the vaxxed group, but those problems aren't in the unvaxxed, it will be very clear what the cause is.

    That said, there was a very pro-vaccine article in The Athlantic discussing some similar studies, and the veredict is that vaccine
    induced immunity is best than nothing, but piss poor compared to
    natural immunity. I don't remember the numbers but I think it was a
    full order of magnitude.

    But you won't hear that from the Propaganda Ministry. Partly because of the sizable population that got COVID a while ago and recovered.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sun Sep 5 16:06:22 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Ogg on Sun Sep 05 2021 02:32 pm

    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    okay but these vaccines are a joke. i got covid from a
    jerkoff that had the vaccine. he got sicker than me.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Now THAT's interesting.

    Not really. There has been plenty of anecdotal evidence showing that getting vaxxed makes you more suspectable to variant strains.


    and we most likely had delta which is rampant around here.
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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Mon Sep 6 01:52:13 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Sep 05 2021 14:30:00

    The COVID vax is not prepared from the causative agent of the disease. It's a set or RNA that makes your body produce "anti-bodies" for COVID.

    This RNA "vaccine" research has been going on for a long time and has always failed. What's the chances that they got a success on this one? Pretty much 0%.

    Oh, and the vast majority of the population already got COVID back in 2019-2020, showed almost no symptoms and recovered. Yet the "experts" say that they need to get vaxxed too. Not following science there.

    So you are saying that this is a new type of technology which has not been used on a large-scale population before and may have unforeseen consequences further down the line; my question is -- why is the government trying to vaccinate all adults and pushing to vaccinate the children now? Surely, if this has never been rolled out on a large popualtion before, only the vulnerable should be vaccinated... would that not be "following the science"?

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Mon Sep 6 02:00:19 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Sun Sep 05 2021 16:06:22

    and we most likely had delta which is rampant around here.

    I think that is why the scientific advisors are adamant that we shall be given booster jabs this winter. The cases appear to be higher in a lot of areas now than they were this time last year and much of the population is now vaccinated. Why is this?

    If the vaccines are ineffective, why are governments across the world mandating health passports?

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  • From Hexabit@VERT/CODELAND to Dr. What on Mon Sep 6 11:29:11 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Zombie Mambo on Sun Aug 08 2021 06:52:00

    Zombie Mambo wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Funny how less than a month later the news is telling is only unvaccinated people are getting it. Not true! Close coworker of mine got the vax a few weeks ago, and tested positive for covid just now.

    Some areas are reporting that upwards of 70% of new cases are from the vaccinated.

    All those medial workers who are against it will get it soon enough tho if they want to keep their jobs. Biden admin pushing business to force it for them...

    If they keep pushing, we are going to get socialized medicine, at a higher price because many health care workers will probably quit, which will make the lack of health care workers (that we already have) even worse.

    Curious why businesses aren't asking employees to prove they've been vaccinated for Small Pox, and other things that are way more serious than covid...

    The smallpox vaccine is actually a vaccine and has been through the years of trials so that we know the problems with it.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Mon Sep 6 08:43:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    So you are saying that this is a new type of technology which has not
    been used on a large-scale population before and may have unforeseen consequences further down the line; my question is -- why is the government trying to vaccinate all adults and pushing to vaccinate the children now?

    That's a good question to which I don't have an answer. I've seen many conspiracy theories trying to explain that and I have my own theories. The answer is probably more complicated than we think, but without more evidence I don't know.

    I'm reasonably sure that part of the reason is the normal Leftie policy of never admitting mistakes and always doubling down on bad decisions.

    Surely, if this has never been rolled out on a large
    popualtion before, only the vulnerable should be vaccinated... would
    that not be "following the science"?

    Yup. That would have been following the science. But to Lefties, Science is more religion than actual science (i.e. to be taken on faith without any evidence).


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Mon Sep 6 08:49:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to MRO <=-

    I think that is why the scientific advisors are adamant that we shall
    be given booster jabs this winter. The cases appear to be higher in a
    lot of areas now than they were this time last year and much of the population is now vaccinated. Why is this?

    The reason cases appear to be higher is called "cold and flu season" (or as doctors call it "low Vitamin D season"). Plus they aren't really testing for COVID. The PCR test can't tell the difference between the flu and COVID and, in many cases, hospitals aren't testing at all and instead labeling people as having COVID because "they have the symptoms".

    Hospitals are still getting financial benefit from having COVID patients.

    If the vaccines are ineffective, why are governments across the world mandating health passports?

    The only thing I can think of is "control". Too many groups are using COVID as an excuse to seize the control of people that they have been wanting for a long time now.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Mon Sep 6 16:16:35 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:43 am

    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    So you are saying that this is a new type of technology which has not been used on a large-scale population before and may have unforeseen consequences further down the line; my question is -- why is the government trying to vaccinate all adults and pushing to vaccinate the children now?

    That's a good question to which I don't have an answer. I've seen many conspiracy theories trying to explain that and I have my own theories. The answer is probably more complicated than we think, but without more evidence don't know.

    I'm reasonably sure that part of the reason is the normal Leftie policy of never admitting mistakes and always doubling down on bad decisions.

    Surely, if this has never been rolled out on a large
    popualtion before, only the vulnerable should be vaccinated... would that not be "following the science"?

    Yup. That would have been following the science. But to Lefties, Science i more religion than actual science (i.e. to be taken on faith without any evidence).


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    My own theory is that vaccines are useful pacification devices regardless of their actual effectivenes against the virus.

    A politician who campaigns aggressively for getting everybody vaccinated gets two immediate benefits. For one, he is seen trying _something_ to stop the crisis. On the other hand, the population sees that the means to stop the crisis are being deployed and morale and confidence increases. For a politician, those effects are more important than reducing hospitalitation rates by 90% or by 10%. The actual effectivity of the vaccines is a secondary consideration when see through a politician's point of view.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Tue Sep 7 00:03:20 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:43:00

    So you are saying that this is a new type of technology which has not been used on a large-scale population before and may have unforeseen consequences further down the line; my question is -- why is the government trying to vaccinate all adults and pushing to vaccinate the children now?

    That's a good question to which I don't have an answer. I've seen many conspiracy theories trying to explain that and I have my own theories. The answer is probably more complicated than we think, but without more evidence I don't know.

    I'm reasonably sure that part of the reason is the normal Leftie policy of never admitting mistakes and always doubling down on bad decisions.

    Surely, if this has never been rolled out on a large
    popualtion before, only the vulnerable should be vaccinated... would that not be "following the science"?

    Yup. That would have been following the science. But to Lefties, Science is more religion than actual science (i.e. to be taken on faith without any evidence).


    I have little reason to believe it has anything to do with politics as many governments across the planet mandating these policies are both right and left wing. I do not know much about conspiracy theories but I have never observed anyone in the media answering my question. We are discussing a vaccine that is not traditional after all as there is no dead virus contained within the inoculation; I simply, for the life of me, cannot grasp why they would want to include everyone in the schedule.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Tue Sep 7 00:18:15 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:49:00

    I think that is why the scientific advisors are adamant that we shall be given booster jabs this winter. The cases appear to be higher in a lot of areas now than they were this time last year and much of the population is now vaccinated. Why is this?

    The reason cases appear to be higher is called "cold and flu season" (or as doctors call it "low Vitamin D season"). Plus they aren't really testing for COVID. The PCR test can't tell the difference between the flu and COVID and, in many cases, hospitals aren't testing at all and instead labeling people as having COVID because "they have the symptoms".

    Hospitals are still getting financial benefit from having COVID patients.

    I see. They may have amalgamated the seasonal flu along with COVID this year giving the impression that cases are higher than they really are.

    If the vaccines are ineffective, why are governments across the world mandating health passports?

    The only thing I can think of is "control". Too many groups are using COVID as an excuse to seize the control of people that they have been wanting for a long time now.


    If it were to do with control then I don't think it would appear to be an excuse to oppress a certain group; rather everyone, as we all have to abide by the same restrictions and mandates.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Tue Sep 7 00:52:00 2021
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Monday 06.09.21 - 16:16, Arelor wrote to Dr. What:

    My own theory is that vaccines are useful pacification
    devices regardless of their actual effectivenes against the
    virus.

    It's more than just a "pacification device" if that device is
    forced via mandates. Teh narrative of the day here is that
    mandates are to be the norm.

    And, if the vaccine is effective, then why are the "cases"
    going up - although it *is* the beginning of cold and flu
    season. :/

    A politician who campaigns aggressively for getting
    everybody vaccinated gets two immediate benefits. [...]

    Not gonna argue with that. Good points.

    [...] The actual effectivity of the vaccines is a secondary
    consideration when see through a politician's point of
    view.

    PMFJI, but I just wanted to clarify something about the term
    efficacy vs effectiveness.

    The media (as well the politicians) seems to be so proud to use
    the term "efficacy of XX%" as if to convince the public that is
    the same thing as the XX% probabilty of being safe.

    But I found this:

    "Efficacy is the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease,
    and possibly also transmission, under ideal and controlled
    circumstances - comparing a vaccinated group with a placebo
    group.

    "Effectiveness meanwhile refers to how well it performs in the
    real world

    The media just uses the first term - which is supposed to be
    limited to "ideal and controlled" circumstances.

    Efficacy and effectiveness are not interchangeable.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Tue Sep 7 07:59:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I have little reason to believe it has anything to do with politics as many governments across the planet mandating these policies are both
    right and left wing.

    There really is no "left vs. right" anymore. The old idea that there are two political entities that are countering each other is long gone.

    The sides are now "the elites who think that they can run the world better than everyone else" and "everyone else".

    What you perceive as "right" and "left" are really the same group of people who are simply saying what they need to in order appeal to the sheeple on their "side" of politics.

    I do not know much about conspiracy theories but I
    have never observed anyone in the media answering my question.

    And you won't. The Media is playing a dangerous game. They can't tell the truth, but they can't seem too biased. For most of us, we've realized that the Media today is really the Propaganda Machine for the elites and is completely untrustworthy.

    We are
    discussing a vaccine that is not traditional after all as there is no
    dead virus contained within the inoculation; I simply, for the life of
    me, cannot grasp why they would want to include everyone in the
    schedule.

    Because the COVID Narrative is 90% propaganda. Facts are ignored. Science is ignored. COVID is used as a tool to create fear, which makes people willing to give up their freedom for "safety".


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Tue Sep 7 08:03:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Hospitals are still getting financial benefit from having COVID patients.

    I see. They may have amalgamated the seasonal flu along with COVID this year giving the impression that cases are higher than they really are.

    Actually, this has been true from the start. All COVID case numbers are false.

    The only thing I can think of is "control". Too many groups are using COVID as an excuse to seize the control of people that they have been wanting for a long time now.

    If it were to do with control then I don't think it would appear to be
    an excuse to oppress a certain group; rather everyone, as we all have
    to abide by the same restrictions and mandates.

    But the Elites don't have to abide by those rules. Haven't you seen the "ruling class" out and about on trips (when they tell everyone else to stay home), without masks (when they have mask mandates) and having parties
    (when they close churches down because too many people can kill everyone)?

    They are oppressing a certain group, but that group is so large it's hard to see. They are oppressing everyone who's not in their "ruling class". In other words: Us.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Tue Sep 7 11:49:39 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Tue Sep 07 2021 12:03 am

    I have little reason to believe it has anything to do with politics as many governments across the planet mandating these policies are both right and left wing. I do not know much about conspiracy theories but I have never

    oh, you havent got to the point where you realize that right and left wing politicians in america grow up with eachother, go to school with eachother, are friends with eachother. they are all in on it.


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  • From fang-castro@VERT/NIGHTVLT to Ogg on Tue Sep 7 09:23:00 2021
    On 07 Sep 2021, Ogg said the following...

    And, if the vaccine is effective, then why are the "cases"
    going up - although it *is* the beginning of cold and flu

    lmfao! the awesome answer to this is . . .

    * people who aren't vaccinated are by far, mostly the rising cases *

    r/hermancainaward
    fuck around and find out :)
  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Tue Sep 7 22:13:25 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Tue Sep 07 2021 11:49:39

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Tue Sep 07 2021 12:03 am

    I have little reason to believe it has anything to do with politics as many governments across the planet mandating these
    policies are both right and left wing. I do not know much about conspiracy theories but I have never

    oh, you havent got to the point where you realize that right and left wing politicians in america grow up with eachother, go to
    school with eachother, are friends with eachother. they are all in on it.


    being a politician is about keeping slavery going.

    If you refering to the virus then it has nothing to do with politics when people continue to drop dead. Getting a shot and wearing
    a mask helps spread the virus. Just like it has been proven during the past decades with the flue ect...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fang-castro on Tue Sep 7 21:39:50 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to Ogg on Tue Sep 07 2021 09:23 am

    On 07 Sep 2021, Ogg said the following...

    And, if the vaccine is effective, then why are the "cases"
    going up - although it *is* the beginning of cold and flu

    lmfao! the awesome answer to this is . . .

    * people who aren't vaccinated are by far, mostly the rising cases *

    r/hermancainaward
    fuck around and find out :)

    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    i got sick from a dude that had the vaccine and went to super spreader events. he got sicker than me.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Tue Sep 7 21:40:45 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 10:13 pm


    being a politician is about keeping slavery going.

    If you refering to the virus then it has nothing to do with politics when people continue to drop dead. Getting a shot and wearing a mask helps spread the virus. Just like it has been proven during the past decades with the flue ect...

    you know nothing.
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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Wed Sep 8 01:32:39 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Tue Sep 07 2021 07:59:00

    There really is no "left vs. right" anymore. The old idea that there are two political entities that are countering each other is long gone.
    The sides are now "the elites who think that they can run the world better than everyone else" and "everyone else".

    What you perceive as "right" and "left" are really the same group of people who are simply saying what they need to in order appeal to the sheeple on their "side" of politics.

    This kind of thinking makes me interested in going down the rabbit hole as I have had a gut feeling for a long time now that it doesn't matter who we vote for; we end up with the same people in charge pushing the same macro policies. Trump himself was and still is encouraging people to take the vaccine however I cannot see a valid reason to inoculate the entire population over a virus that has an average of a 99.9% survival rate. It beggars belief that we are so willing to destroy everything in the name of something that is a mere footnote when compared to other diseases such as cancer and heart disease -- both being larger killers by magnitudes.

    And you won't. The Media is playing a dangerous game. They can't tell the truth, but they can't seem too biased. For most of us, we've realized that the Media today is really the Propaganda Machine for the elites and is completely untrustworthy.

    Because the COVID Narrative is 90% propaganda. Facts are ignored. Science is ignored. COVID is used as a tool to create fear, which makes people willing to give up their freedom for "safety".

    I am aware of many dissenting doctors and other medical professionals and yet they are not being granted airtime by the media nor are they handed the opportunity to debate with their counterparts who are presently advising the government.

    I refuse to believe that politicans around the world are so stupid that they would accept zero COVID policies, but it appears some have. I read that New Zealand was placed under lockdown because of a single case! If they can close an entire country for that reason, they can do anything.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Wed Sep 8 01:41:58 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Tue Sep 07 2021 08:03:00

    But the Elites don't have to abide by those rules. Haven't you seen the "ruling class" out and about on trips (when they tell everyone else to stay home), without masks (when they have mask mandates) and having parties
    (when they close churches down because too many people can kill everyone)?

    They are oppressing a certain group, but that group is so large it's hard to see. They are oppressing everyone who's not in their "ruling class". In other words: Us.

    I understand. My only counterargument is that the ruling classes are afraid of the profane and noisy masses as we are known to have a tendency to start revolutions. If an obvious two-tier society was being unveiled before our very eyes, would the elite class not be worried of a backlash? I can see why democracy is the best way to shepherd an unwitting population. This, however, is beginning to look like autocratic rule.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Wed Sep 8 01:44:59 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Tue Sep 07 2021 11:49:39

    I have little reason to believe it has anything to do with politics as many governments across the planet mandating these policies are both right and left wing. I do not know much about conspiracy theories but I have never

    oh, you havent got to the point where you realize that right and left wing politicians in america grow up with eachother, go to school with eachother, are friends with eachother. they are all in on it.


    being a politician is about keeping slavery going.

    I do remember both George W. Bush and John Kerry running against each other for the presidency whilst being members of the same secret society. What are the chances, eh?

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Wed Sep 8 07:57:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This kind of thinking makes me interested in going down the rabbit hole
    as I have had a gut feeling for a long time now that it doesn't matter
    who we vote for; we end up with the same people in charge pushing the
    same macro policies.

    I think that many people have been noticing that too. Hence the popularity of Trump - someone who wasn't part of any political machine.

    Trump himself was and still is encouraging people
    to take the vaccine

    One of the mistakes that Trump made was trusting his "experts".

    One of the problems that I've seen in many companies is that management puts too much trust in people who are supposed to be experts in their areas. But management doesn't have the knowledge or experience to determine if these people are actually experts, or just "experts" put in those positions by other management so that they can get the answers that they want (as opposed to the correct answer).

    Many positions in our gov't have been taken over by people who lay claim to titles of "expert" or "knowledgeable" when they aren't. They've been put into those positions by other gov't people in order to get the answers that they want. And they've "fixed" the system so that once these people are in, you can't get them out.

    however I cannot see a valid reason to inoculate
    the entire population over a virus that has an average of a 99.9%
    survival rate.

    I don't either. Even at the height of the scamedmic, I ran the fake numbers that my state was using to scare the sheeple. COVID impacted 0.7% of the population at any given time with a death rate of 0.07%. That's just a bad flu season - not anything that would justify shutting the state down. And those were the bloated numbers - so the real numbers would be far less.

    It beggars belief that we are so willing to destroy
    everything in the name of something that is a mere footnote when
    compared to other diseases such as cancer and heart disease -- both
    being larger killers by magnitudes.

    Fear is a good lever for controlling people. It always has been. That's why you see the Lefties pushing things like "climate change is going to kill us all in 10 years" (which never happens). They are trying to scare people into giving up rights and giving them power.

    I am aware of many dissenting doctors and other medical professionals
    and yet they are not being granted airtime by the media nor are they handed the opportunity to debate with their counterparts who are
    presently advising the government.

    Yup. By giving them air time, they would be exposing the Media's bias as well as the lies by the fake "experts" the gov't trots out.

    I refuse to believe that politicans around the world are so stupid that they would accept zero COVID policies, but it appears some have. I read that New Zealand was placed under lockdown because of a single case! If they can close an entire country for that reason, they can do anything.

    Zero COVID means "never". It was a susprise to me that New Zealand and Australia have such totaltarian gov'ts.

    Some politians are stupid. But some are power hungry and are using COVID as a cover to seize the power that they've coveted for so long.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Wed Sep 8 08:02:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I understand. My only counterargument is that the ruling classes are afraid of the profane and noisy masses as we are known to have a
    tendency to start revolutions.

    Hence the continued push of the false COVID Narrative.

    "We're doing this for your own good."

    If an obvious two-tier society was being
    unveiled before our very eyes, would the elite class not be worried of
    a backlash?

    They are worried. But they've worked for decades to mold people into blindly believing media and the "experts".

    The question is how many people are going to wake up and see for themselves.

    We are already seeing revolts in France, for example, where enough people are refusing that the police have to back down.

    And the outcry against the voting audits from the last election. You don't hear that in the Media anymore because they want to keep it quiet, but they are still moving forward and finding massive fraud - enough to swing the election.

    I can see why democracy is the best way to shepherd an
    unwitting population. This, however, is beginning to look like
    autocratic rule.

    It's moving in that direction. The massive fraud in the last election shows that there is an effort to head that way. And the Dems want to pass laws
    to basically make it a law to allow voting fraud.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Wed Sep 8 11:46:46 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Tue Sep 07 2021 21:40:45

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 10:13 pm


    being a politician is about keeping slavery going.

    If you refering to the virus then it has nothing to do with politics when people continue to drop dead. Getting a shot and
    wearing a mask helps spread the virus. Just like it has been proven during the past decades with the flue ect...

    you know nothing.

    Bull sh*y and wake up. The people getting infected is going up and more people are dying. so get you head out of your *ass.

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  • From fang-castro@VERT/NIGHTVLT to MRO on Tue Sep 7 22:16:00 2021
    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.
  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to fang-castro on Wed Sep 8 19:14:29 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 22:16:00

    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.

    People are more at risk getting sick from he virus then getting the shot.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Dr. What on Wed Sep 8 17:52:00 2021
    Hello Dr. What!

    ** On Wednesday 08.09.21 - 07:57, Dr. What wrote to John Martin:

    however I cannot see a valid reason to inoculate the
    entire population over a virus that has an average of a
    99.9% survival rate.

    I don't either. Even at the height of the scamedmic, I
    ran the fake numbers that my state was using to scare the
    sheeple. COVID impacted 0.7% of the population at any
    given time with a death rate of 0.07%. That's just a bad
    flu season - not anything that would justify shutting the
    state down. And those were the bloated numbers - so the
    real numbers would be far less.

    If the numbers are so low, how do they justify "the
    overwhelming numbers in ICU due to covid" and having people on
    ventilators? That doesn't seem to happen even in a bad flu
    season.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Wed Sep 8 21:42:28 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Wed Sep 08 2021 11:46 am



    being a politician is about keeping slavery going.

    If you refering to the virus then it has nothing to do with politics when people continue to drop dead. Getting a shot and wearing a mask helps spread the virus. Just like it has been proven during the past decades with the flue ect...

    you know nothing.

    Bull sh*y and wake up. The people getting infected is going up and more people are dying. so get you head out of your *ass.


    what do you care, it doesnt apply to you. you're not a real person.
    you'll be the only one left when everyone dies. the bad covid has spread to the 48 states. vaccine and antibodies dont work against it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Wed Sep 8 21:42:56 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to fang-castro on Wed Sep 08 2021 07:14 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 22:16:00

    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.

    People are more at risk getting sick from he virus then getting the shot.

    you just repeat what you hear on tv
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  • From fang-castro@VERT/NIGHTVLT to plt on Wed Sep 8 20:20:00 2021
    On 08 Sep 2021, plt said the following...

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 22:16:00

    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.

    People are more at risk getting sick from he virus then getting the shot.

    also yup. earlier in this thread i mentioned the exorbitant amount of unvaccinated people who are sick vs. the amount of vaccinated people who are sick.

    why, when i mentioned vaccinated people w/cases of covid was i was asked
    the above question i don't know; considering i had just mentioned vaccinated people with cases of covid - which is vaccinated sick people. doo-dee-dah..
  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Thu Sep 9 00:37:21 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Wed Sep 08 2021 21:42:56

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to fang-castro on Wed Sep 08 2021 07:14 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 22:16:00

    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.

    People are more at risk getting sick from he virus then getting the shot.

    you just repeat what you hear on tv

    Count the people that are dead from the virus. That is fact!

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to fang-castro on Thu Sep 9 00:40:04 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to plt on Wed Sep 08 2021 20:20:00

    On 08 Sep 2021, plt said the following...

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 22:16:00

    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.

    People are more at risk getting sick from he virus then getting the shot.

    also yup. earlier in this thread i mentioned the exorbitant amount of unvaccinated people who are sick vs. the amount of
    vaccinated
    people who are sick.

    why, when i mentioned vaccinated people w/cases of covid was i was asked
    the above question i don't know; considering i had just mentioned vaccinated people with cases of covid - which is vaccinated
    sick
    people. doo-dee-dah..

    If you got the shot, wear a mask, keep social distance and clean your hands then you have a good chance of not getting the virus. I got my shot, I wear a mask and keep social distance and I never got te virus. I am living proof of it.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Thu Sep 9 02:28:52 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Wed Sep 08 2021 07:57:00

    I think that many people have been noticing that too. Hence the popularity of Trump - someone who wasn't part of any political machine.

    One of the mistakes that Trump made was trusting his "experts".

    All the politicans across the world have experts following them around like sinister little minders. It is clearly a coordinated effort as the "experts" are all singing from the same hymn sheet no matter which country they repesent. I have never seen anything like this before and I've a terrible feeling about what's in store for us next.

    One of the problems that I've seen in many companies is that management puts too much trust in people who are supposed to be experts in their areas. But management doesn't have the knowledge or experience to determine if these people are actually experts, or just "experts" put in those positions by other management so that they can get the answers that they want (as opposed to the correct answer).

    Many positions in our gov't have been taken over by people who lay claim to titles of "expert" or "knowledgeable" when they aren't. They've been put into those positions by other gov't people in order to get the answers that they want. And they've "fixed" the system so that once these people are in, you can't get them out.

    Anyone with any critical thinking faculties should able to see that something is afoot. These politicans are either accepting bribes or are part and parcel of whatever plot is on. Each person has the ability to critically assess a situation regardless of their expertise. We, as laymen, can analyse charts and trends and are able to make sensible decisions. I was a fool to believe politicans were being paid to think rather than mindlessly follow orders from unelected "experts"...

    I don't either. Even at the height of the scamedmic, I ran the fake numbers that my state was using to scare the sheeple. COVID impacted 0.7% of the population at any given time with a death rate of 0.07%. That's just a bad flu season - not anything that would justify shutting the state down. And those were the bloated numbers - so the real numbers would be far less.

    Fear is a good lever for controlling people. It always has been. That's why you see the Lefties pushing things like "climate change is going to kill us all in 10 years" (which never happens). They are trying to scare people into giving up rights and giving them power.

    Controlling the population through a perceived threat is stright out of the dictator's handbook. If we were living in the kind of world I thought we were living in we would be able to make our own decisions regarding our personal health. I saw Tucker Carlson talking about the "my body my choice" movement which apparently does not extend to medical procedures such as the jab. We are all going to reap what we sow so I sincerely hope the people who are pushing these policies are happy about where this is all headed.

    Yup. By giving them air time, they would be exposing the Media's bias as well as the lies by the fake "experts" the gov't trots out.

    Zero COVID means "never". It was a susprise to me that New Zealand and Australia have such totaltarian gov'ts.

    Some politians are stupid. But some are power hungry and are using COVID as a cover to seize the power that they've coveted for so long.

    I have looked at Australia and they are several months ahead of us. Hard to believe that this is real and is happening before our very eyes.

    Liberty dies with thunderous applause.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Thu Sep 9 02:48:41 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Wed Sep 08 2021 08:02:00

    They are worried. But they've worked for decades to mold people into blindly believing media and the "experts".

    The question is how many people are going to wake up and see for themselves.

    We are already seeing revolts in France, for example, where enough people are refusing that the police have to back down.

    And the outcry against the voting audits from the last election. You don't hear that in the Media anymore because they want to keep it quiet, but they are still moving forward and finding massive fraud - enough to swing the election.

    The French have always encapsulated the spirit of Liberty. There are non-stop revolts in Paris where people are not afraid to express their displeasure. I saw in Greece there was a mass walkout in the healthcare sector as doctors, nurses and auxiliary staff refused to take the mandatory jab. I don't understand why this is such a contentious issue. Offer the jab to those who wish to take it, like in the original proposal, and rely henceforth on natural immunity. This is not the second coming of the Bubonic Plague which had a survival rate of around 50%. We are looking at a 99.92% survival rate for my age group (50-60) which is a risk I can live with.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Ogg on Thu Sep 9 07:56:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to Dr. What <=-

    If the numbers are so low, how do they justify "the
    overwhelming numbers in ICU due to covid" and having people on ventilators? That doesn't seem to happen even in a bad flu
    season.

    They can't justify because
    1) They don't have "overwhelming numbers" in the ICU. Remember the lies at the start of this scam? When they set up those large temporary care facilities, or brought in those hospital ships. They claimed that COVID would "overwhelm" the hospitals. Never happened. Isn't happening now.
    2) The "due to COVID" is also a lie. There are people in the ICU that are sick, but the "due to COVID" is something that they gloss over. They see that the highly inaccurate PCR test shows that they "have COVID" and, so to get their extra money from the gov't, they list the patient as a COVID patient - when they are actually there for a heart attack.
    3) Some actually have COVID, which they probably have on a ventilator. Which tells me that they aren't actually trying to help the COVID patient since the ventilator is proven to hurt and not help. But the gov't won't let them use proven medicines to treat COVID, so they do the best that they can.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Thu Sep 9 08:05:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    All the politicans across the world have experts following them around like sinister little minders. It is clearly a coordinated effort as the "experts" are all singing from the same hymn sheet no matter which
    country they repesent. I have never seen anything like this before and I've a terrible feeling about what's in store for us next.

    1) The education system has long been ruined by the Left and turned into indoctrination centers. Few people who get a degree today actually have any competance in the field they got the degree in. But that's why they all seem to sing from the same hymnal.
    2) The "experts", having a useless degree from a useless university, uses that to lay claim to the title. And the other "experts" sing his praises, which easily fools the morons in the gov't.

    Anyone with any critical thinking faculties should able to see that something is afoot.

    That type of thinking is rarely in any kind of management circle - corporate or gov't.

    These politicans are either accepting bribes or are
    part and parcel of whatever plot is on.

    You can just assume that it happening. It's very rare when it isn't.

    I was a fool to believe politicans were being paid to think
    rather than mindlessly follow orders from unelected "experts"...

    Welcome to the club. Many people figured this out a while ago, but in the last few years, I think the number of people who understand this has grown tremendously.

    Controlling the population through a perceived threat is stright out of the dictator's handbook. If we were living in the kind of world I
    thought we were living in we would be able to make our own decisions regarding our personal health. I saw Tucker Carlson talking about the
    "my body my choice" movement which apparently does not extend to
    medical procedures such as the jab.

    If the Left didn't have double standards, they'd have no standard at all.

    We are all going to reap what we
    sow so I sincerely hope the people who are pushing these policies are happy about where this is all headed.

    Many of us didn't sow this. I still firmly believe that there was a huge amount of election fraud and that Biden (well, his handlers, since Biden can't think his way out of a room) cheated.

    I have looked at Australia and they are several months ahead of us.
    Hard to believe that this is real and is happening before our very
    eyes.

    I don't think we'll get as bad as Austrailia. Mostly because the 2nd Amendment is still in effect and the number of gun owners went up a great deal after Biden was installed as President.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Thu Sep 9 08:08:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    displeasure. I saw in Greece there was a mass walkout in the healthcare sector as doctors, nurses and auxiliary staff refused to take the mandatory jab. I don't understand why this is such a contentious issue. Offer the jab to those who wish to take it, like in the original
    proposal, and rely henceforth on natural immunity. This is not the
    second coming of the Bubonic Plague which had a survival rate of around 50%. We are looking at a 99.92% survival rate for my age group (50-60) which is a risk I can live with.

    IHMO I believe that there are 3 reasons:
    1) Control. Get people comfortable with the gov't mandating shots is 1 step toward controlling your entire life.
    2) The Leftie need to always be right. Since the jab is "good for you", everyone needs to get it.
    3) The Left can't have a large 'control' group of people who didn't get the jab so that 10 years from now, we can't see how much the not-vaccine has hurt people.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Thu Sep 9 08:28:00 2021
    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    and wake up.

    Take your own advise.

    The people getting infected is going up

    Happens all the time. Happened in the past. Will happen for the forseeable future. This is only an issue to the sheeple who blindly believe what the so-called "experts" say.

    and more people are dying.

    Our death rate has not significantly changed. The only difference is that more people are being coded as "dieing from COVID" when they actually "had COVID when they died of <whatever>".

    Hospitals do that because they get extra money for every COVID patient and COVID death.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Thu Sep 9 08:32:00 2021
    plt wrote to fang-castro <=-

    If you got the shot, wear a mask, keep social distance and clean your hands then you have a good chance of not getting the virus. I got my
    shot, I wear a mask and keep social distance and I never got te virus.
    I am living proof of it.

    I won't get the shot, never wore a mask, never social distanced. I keep my hands clean (which is just good hygene) but will rarely use the anti-bacterial soaps of gels (only when there isn't a good way to wash my hands).

    And I never (to my knowledge) got the virus.

    I am living proof that you are completely wrong.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Thu Sep 9 09:57:14 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:32:00

    plt wrote to fang-castro <=-

    If you got the shot, wear a mask, keep social distance and clean your hands then you have a good chance of not getting the
    virus. I got my
    shot, I wear a mask and keep social distance and I never got te virus. I am living proof of it.

    I won't get the shot, never wore a mask, never social distanced. I keep my hands clean (which is just good hygene) but will
    rarely
    use the anti-bacterial soaps of gels (only when there isn't a good way to wash my hands).

    And I never (to my knowledge) got the virus.

    I am living proof that you are completely wrong.


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    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I never got the virus. So it works.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fang-castro on Thu Sep 9 08:44:10 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to plt on Wed Sep 08 2021 08:20 pm

    On 08 Sep 2021, plt said the following...

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: fang-castro to MRO on Tue Sep 07 2021 22:16:00

    On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?

    yup.

    People are more at risk getting sick from he virus then getting the shot.

    also yup. earlier in this thread i mentioned the exorbitant amount of unvaccinated people who are sick vs. the amount of vaccinated people who are sick.

    why, when i mentioned vaccinated people w/cases of covid was i was asked
    the above question i don't know; considering i had just mentioned vaccinated people with cases of covid - which is vaccinated sick people. doo-dee-dah..


    why did i say this?

    > On 07 Sep 2021, MRO said the following...
    > MR> people that had the vaccine can get sick. dont you know that?


    because you said this:

    lmfao! the awesome answer to this is . . .

    * people who aren't vaccinated are by far, mostly the rising cases *
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Thu Sep 9 08:44:32 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Thu Sep 09 2021 12:37 am

    shot.

    you just repeat what you hear on tv

    Count the people that are dead from the virus. That is fact!


    count my foot up your retarded ass.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Thu Sep 9 08:45:51 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to fang-castro on Thu Sep 09 2021 12:40 am

    people. doo-dee-dah..

    If you got the shot, wear a mask, keep social distance and clean your hands then you have a good chance of not getting the virus. I got my shot, I wear a mask and keep social distance and I never got te virus. I am living proof of it.

    whats with this sudden doctor phil personality?

    and how do you know you didnt get the virus? most people have no symptoms.
    did you get an antibody test?


    and people social distance from you because you're weird.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Thu Sep 9 10:27:18 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:28:00

    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    and wake up.

    Take your own advise.

    The people getting infected is going up

    Happens all the time. Happened in the past. Will happen for the forseeable future. This is only an issue to the sheeple who
    blindly believe what the so-called "experts" say.

    and more people are dying.

    Our death rate has not significantly changed. The only difference is that more people are being coded as "dieing from COVID"
    when
    they actually "had COVID when they died of <whatever>".

    Hospitals do that because they get extra money for every COVID patient and COVID death.


    ... When a girl goes bad--men go right after her.

    Stop listening to Trump, he tells lies, play down the virus when it first started, part of the blame for the people that died should not be trusted.

    I never got the virus and I was rehab recovering for a scooter accident for 1 month because I follow the CDC guidelines. If get the virus and fail to do it and you get the virus, then its all on you!

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Thu Sep 9 10:38:31 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:45:51


    Why do you go and stick in your ass where it belongs.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to plt on Thu Sep 9 09:39:48 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to fang-castro on Thu Sep 09 2021 12:40 am

    If you got the shot, wear a mask, keep social distance and clean your hands then you have a good chance of not getting the virus. I got my shot, I wear mask and keep social distance and I never got te virus. I am living proof of it.

    Chances are that in a timespan of 5 years, the probability of you NOT getting the virus is near zero. This is because even if the vaccines worked as advertised, they would not stop the spread, but mitigate the problem.

    If the vaccines work as advertised, what we are looking at is a scenario in which everybody can shrug the virus off as if it was the flu, not an scenario in which the virus is destroyed.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Arelor on Thu Sep 9 11:23:03 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to plt on Thu Sep 09 2021 09:39:48

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to fang-castro on Thu Sep 09 2021 12:40 am

    If you got the shot, wear a mask, keep social distance and clean your hands then you have a good chance of not getting the
    virus. I got my shot, I wear mask and keep social distance and I never got te virus. I am living proof of it.

    Chances are that in a timespan of 5 years, the probability of you NOT getting the virus is near zero. This is because even if
    the
    vaccines worked as advertised, they would not stop the spread, but mitigate the problem.

    If the vaccines work as advertised, what we are looking at is a scenario in which everybody can shrug the virus off as if it was
    the flu, not an scenario in which the virus is destroyed.


    In order for it to work you have to follow the other CDC guidelines.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Thu Sep 9 13:06:37 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:44:32

    r Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Thu Sep 09 2021 12:37 am

    shot.

    you just repeat what you hear on tv

    Count the people that are dead from the virus. That is fact!


    count my foot up your retarded ass.
    ---

    When you where born the doctor slap you upside your head and not on your ass that explains why your so retarted. Your mother was
    so
    poor that she could afford to buy your books when going to school, so she has to get them from the local junk yard.

    You definitely meet the difinition of a total asshole. Grow up and act like a adult you troll.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Thu Sep 9 13:07:57 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to plt on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:44:32

    r Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Thu Sep 09 2021 12:37 am

    shot.

    you just repeat what you hear on tv

    Count the people that are dead from the virus. That is fact!


    count my foot up your retarded ass.
    ---

    When you where born the doctor slap you upside your head and not on your ass that explains why your so retarted. Your mother was
    so
    poor that she could afford to buy your books when going to school, so she has to get them from the local junk yard.

    COme over any time I will show you how it's done when I shove it up your fucking retard ass.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Thu Sep 9 19:43:00 2021
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 09.09.21 - 09:39, Arelor wrote to plt:

    Chances are that in a timespan of 5 years, the probability
    of you NOT getting the virus is near zero. This is because
    even if the vaccines worked as advertised, they would not
    stop the spread, but mitigate the problem.

    What's the point of requiring a vaccine to protect others if
    that vaccine does not prevent onward transmission? People
    (vaccinated or not) can be still get the virus.


    If the vaccines work as advertised, what we are looking at
    is a scenario in which everybody can shrug the virus off as
    if it was the flu, not an scenario in which the virus is
    destroyed.

    People are still getting the false impression that being vaxx'd
    against a strain that has long mutated from its alpha version,
    somehow "protects" them from new variants.

    Reports are emerging that double-vacc'd people are entering
    hospitals due to covid.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Thu Sep 9 21:49:28 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Thu Sep 09 2021 01:06 pm


    You definitely meet the difinition of a total asshole. Grow up and act like a adult you troll.

    you havent acted like an adult during your entire time in our bbs community.

    you are a joke and nobody likes you. you are like a cyst on the ass of the synchronet community that gets bigger and bigger with pus.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Thu Sep 9 21:50:08 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to MRO on Thu Sep 09 2021 01:07 pm


    COme over any time I will show you how it's done when I shove it up your fucking retard ass.

    you're not worth anybody's time and you know that.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Ogg on Fri Sep 10 00:46:26 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Sep 09 2021 19:43:00

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 09.09.21 - 09:39, Arelor wrote to plt:

    Chances are that in a timespan of 5 years, the probability
    of you NOT getting the virus is near zero. This is because
    even if the vaccines worked as advertised, they would not
    stop the spread, but mitigate the problem.

    This is not true, a individual that did not get their shot and follow
    the CDC guidelines are more at risk getting the virus. I took the shot
    and it works as it is advertised.


    What's the point of requiring a vaccine to protect others if
    that vaccine does not prevent onward transmission? People
    (vaccinated or not) can be still get the virus.

    If the individuals follow the CDC guidelines, stay away from large
    cevents, wear there mask and wash their hands they are at a lower
    risk of getting the virus. Thee are some that fail o follow it, and
    that is one of the reason why they are getting the virus.

    (vaccinated have been around for several decades and they do work.



    If the vaccines work as advertised, what we are looking at
    is a scenario in which everybody can shrug the virus off as
    if it was the flu, not an scenario in which the virus is
    destroyed.
    Some people are either lazy and need to stop listening to people like Donald Trump.


    People are still getting the false impression that being vaxx'd
    against a strain that has long mutated from its alpha version,
    somehow "protects" them from new variants.

    That is because people continue to spread false information like Donald
    Trump did.


    Reports are emerging that double-vacc'd people are entering
    hospitals due to covid.

    In some cases this could have been preventer.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 11:28:34 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:05:00

    1) The education system has long been ruined by the Left and turned into indoctrination centers. Few people who get a degree today actually have any competance in the field they got the degree in. But that's why they all seem to sing from the same hymnal.
    2) The "experts", having a useless degree from a useless university, uses that to lay claim to the title. And the other "experts" sing his praises, which easily fools the morons in the gov't.

    I would be inclined to agree that education is not what it used to be. I see kids leaving college now with their degrees in 'My Little Pony' and 'David Beckham studies' thinking that they know their shit. There must be some driver, a hidden hand as such, directing all these useful idiots out there. It is too much of a coincidence for everything to slot so perfectly into place especially when we are talking about what are essentially ID cards. The CIA and their "black budget" have something to do with this. The government have shrouded everything in secrecy and I believe most politicans are completely in the dark.

    That type of thinking is rarely in any kind of management circle - corporate or gov't.

    Critical thought is something that used to be taught at a young age. It allows us to analyse information in a sensible manner even if we are not considered experts in a particular matter. These days everybody seems to defer to "experts" even when it is clear they are unable to make a single correct decision. Management today consists of acquiescing to those above you and thereafter imposing on those below you.

    You can just assume that it happening. It's very rare when it isn't.

    Welcome to the club. Many people figured this out a while ago, but in the last few years, I think the number of people who understand this has grown tremendously.

    I have only recently began to realise that politics is show business for ugly people.

    If the Left didn't have double standards, they'd have no standard at all.

    That's something that has recently happened as well -- back in my day, the Left were anti-establishment, now they are conformists who support lockdown and jab mandates. The Left back in the 80s would have rejected these policies.

    Many of us didn't sow this. I still firmly believe that there was a huge amount of election fraud and that Biden (well, his handlers, since Biden can't think his way out of a room) cheated.

    I believe everything has been corrupted for a long time and most of us have only just noticed. The gulf between offical reality and reality itself has never been greater. It's obvious that we are starting to see glimpses of the true reality that was always lurking underneath.

    I don't think we'll get as bad as Austrailia. Mostly because the 2nd Amendment is still in effect and the number of gun owners went up a great deal after Biden was installed as President.

    I cannot see it happening in red states for the reasons you've stated, and I suppose compliance is high in blue states so there wouldn't be any reason for it. We could end living in a parallel society.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 11:40:56 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:08:00

    IHMO I believe that there are 3 reasons:
    1) Control. Get people comfortable with the gov't mandating shots is 1 step toward controlling your entire life.
    2) The Leftie need to always be right. Since the jab is "good for you", everyone needs to get it.
    3) The Left can't have a large 'control' group of people who didn't get the jab so that 10 years from now, we can't see how much the not-vaccine has hurt people.

    To demand control of another persons bodily autonomy is tyrannical. We need more of the Left to speak up on this because there has to be critical thinkers among them. They have to realise that they are getting their way because the government, institutions and corporations support them, but it doesn't make them right. I haven't observed any free and open debate which needs to happen before it's too late.

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Ogg on Fri Sep 10 07:53:52 2021
    Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Sep 09 2021 07:43 pm

    What's the point of requiring a vaccine to protect others if
    that vaccine does not prevent onward transmission? People
    (vaccinated or not) can be still get the virus.

    I mean you are leaving out the point that it is still very effective in transmission as well, does better than the flu vaccine.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 09:01:02 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:40 am

    To demand control of another persons bodily autonomy is tyrannical. We need more of the Left to speak up on this because there has to be critical thinkers among them. They have to realise that they are getting their way because the government, institutions and corporations support them, but it


    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.

    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?

    anyways, you can either get a test every week [i think everyone should. it's so easy and free now] or i can refuse for religious reasons. i'm trying to become a christian scientist.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 10:33:52 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:40:56

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Thu Sep 09 2021 08:08:00

    IHMO I believe that there are 3 reasons:
    1) Control. Get people comfortable with the gov't mandating shots is 1 step toward controlling your entire life.
    2) The Leftie need to always be right. Since the jab is "good for you", everyone needs to get it.
    3) The Left can't have a large 'control' group of people who didn't get the jab so that 10 years from now, we can't see how
    much
    the not-vaccine has hurt people.

    To demand control of another persons bodily autonomy is tyrannical. We need more of the Left to speak up on this because there
    has
    to be critical thinkers among them. They have to realise that they are getting their way because the government, institutions
    and
    corporations support them, but it doesn't make them right. I haven't observed any free and open debate which needs to happen
    before
    it's too late.

    There is no need about the debate on the vaccine, if you did not get you shot then get it or take the risk of getting sick or the possibility of droping dead.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 08:45:38 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:28 am

    That's something that has recently happened as well -- back in my day, the Left were anti-establishment, now they are conformists who support lockdown and jab mandates. The Left back in the 80s would have rejected these policies.

    During the covid situation, it seems to me that conservatives are the ones who tend to want to reject those policies. And it seems some of the conservatives are the ones who tend to go as far as thinking the covid situation is a conspiracy or that covid doesn't exist at all.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Sep 10 10:58:16 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 08:45 am

    During the covid situation, it seems to me that conservatives are the ones who tend to want to reject those policies. And it seems some of the conservatives are the ones who tend to go as far as thinking the covid situation is a conspiracy or that covid doesn't exist at all.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Fri Sep 10 13:16:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I
    never got the virus. So it works.

    And I did none of that - and never got the virus. So it does nothing.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Fri Sep 10 13:17:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Stop listening to Trump, he tells lies, play down the virus when it
    first started, part of the blame for the people that died should not be trusted.

    Ahhh... Now I understand. Bad case of TDS here.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 13:36:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I would be inclined to agree that education is not what it used to be.

    It's been steadily going downhill for a long time. My dad was a teacher for 43 years, so I got a good inside view of what was going on inside public education.

    I also remember seeing the quality of education of my brothers (just 4 and 7 years later) to what I got (and by then I realized how poor my education was).

    I see kids leaving college now with their degrees in 'My Little Pony'
    and 'David Beckham studies' thinking that they know their shit.

    There was a person I know who constantly complains about how she has a "degree" but can't get anyone to give her a high paying job. When asked what the degree was in, she responded with some useless topic, then got mad when we explained reality to her. She's still in a low paying job and still mad at the world for not recognizing her "eliteness".

    I know many businesses were getting frustrated with new graduates thinking that they will hire in at a 6 figure salary, with all the perks of someone who had been in the company for 20 years.

    There
    must be some driver, a hidden hand as such, directing all these useful idiots out there. It is too much of a coincidence for everything to
    slot so perfectly into place especially when we are talking about what
    are essentially ID cards.

    There is. But whatever (or whoever) that driver is, it's well hidden behind the scenes.

    The CIA and their "black budget" have something to do with this.

    That trips my "crackpot conspiracy theory" switch, but I can't say it's false either.

    The government have shrouded everything in
    secrecy and I believe most politicans are completely in the dark.

    Most politicans know what's going on - or at least they know that something is moving behind the scenes and they want to come out on top of whatever is going on, so they go with it. The politicans in the dark are a very small minority.

    That's part of why things don't change when we elect someone else.

    Critical thought is something that used to be taught at a young age. It allows us to analyse information in a sensible manner even if we are
    not considered experts in a particular matter.

    Yup. The problem started with the Left ruining the schools.

    These days everybody
    seems to defer to "experts" even when it is clear they are unable to
    make a single correct decision. Management today consists of
    acquiescing to those above you and thereafter imposing on those below
    you.

    Unfortunately, true. I don't know how many times I've been criticised for "not following the experts" - even though I've proven them wrong.

    That's something that has recently happened as well -- back in my day,
    the Left were anti-establishment, now they are conformists who support lockdown and jab mandates. The Left back in the 80s would have rejected these policies.

    The old "left" were what we would call "classical liberals" today. While they had opposite ideas about how things should be run, the "conservatives" had much more in common with the Lefties of today. The "classical liberals" are now on the "right" of the political spectrum because the Lefties have moved so far left.

    I believe everything has been corrupted for a long time and most of us have only just noticed.

    I think you're right. I've often told my wife that Trump getting elected made the Lefties have to "step up their game" to seize power. In doing so, the mask that they had been wearing has come off and many more people have seen the corruption.

    The gulf between offical reality and reality
    itself has never been greater. It's obvious that we are starting to see glimpses of the true reality that was always lurking underneath.

    The "official reality" is what we call the Narrative, and it's no different from the propaganda used in Communist Russia - or Orwell's "1984".

    I cannot see it happening in red states for the reasons you've stated,
    and I suppose compliance is high in blue states so there wouldn't be
    any reason for it. We could end living in a parallel society.

    Only for a short period (relatively speaking). The Left tends to completely mess things up. So places like the Socialist Utopia of California don't survive for long.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 13:42:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    To demand control of another persons bodily autonomy is tyrannical. We need more of the Left to speak up on this because there has to be
    critical thinkers among them. They have to realise that they are
    getting their way because the government, institutions and corporations support them, but it doesn't make them right. I haven't observed any
    free and open debate which needs to happen before it's too late.

    There are no critical thinkers among the left. They have thrown them all out of their circle (i.e. cancel culture).

    They cannot have free and open debate because such debate will
    1) force them to listen to ideas that they know are right, but go against their beliefs. Think of trying to explain to a religious fanatic that the the sun does NOT go around the Earth.
    2) force them to accept the fact that they might be wrong and that's just too painful for the elitist attitudes to handle.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Nightfox on Fri Sep 10 15:00:14 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 08:45:38

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:28 am

    That's something that has recently happened as well -- back in my day, the Left were anti-establishment, now they are
    conformists who support lockdown and jab mandates. The Left back in the 80s would have rejected these policies.

    During the covid situation, it seems to me that conservatives are the ones who tend to want to reject those policies. And it
    seems
    some of the conservatives are the ones who tend to go as far as thinking the covid situation is a conspiracy or that covid
    doesn't
    exist at all.

    Nightfox

    I do not understand why people think it's a conspiracy when people are dying? It's not a game and it's real. I have been in and out of hospitals several times during the past year and it seems that some people think its a game.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 13:20:40 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Fri Sep 10 2021 01:16 pm

    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I
    never got the virus. So it works.

    And I did none of that - and never got the virus. So it does nothing.

    Correlation is not causation. Maybe you've been lucky. I've probably been lucky too, as I'm not aware of having gotten covid.

    I've worn masks and social distanced to a point, but there's still a chance of getting covid.

    Nightfox

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Nightfox on Fri Sep 10 17:53:49 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 13:20:40

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Fri Sep 10 2021 01:16 pm

    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I
    never got the virus. So it works.

    And I did none of that - and never got the virus. So it does nothing.

    Correlation is not causation. Maybe you've been lucky. I've probably been lucky too, as I'm not aware of having gotten covid.

    I've worn masks and social distanced to a point, but there's still a chance of getting covid.

    Nightfox


    Yes, it's still possible but you lower your risk.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Sep 10 21:35:19 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 01:20 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Fri Sep 10 2021 01:16 pm

    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I
    never got the virus. So it works.

    And I did none of that - and never got the virus. So it does nothing.

    Correlation is not causation. Maybe you've been lucky. I've probably been lucky too, as I'm not aware of having gotten covid.

    I've worn masks and social distanced to a point, but there's still a chance of getting covid.

    Nightfox

    you're probably going to get the virus no matter what you do. it's everywhere, it lasts for days on objects and it's super contagious.

    you either will have no symptoms, little symptoms, or bigger problems.

    right now i have fluid in my lungs when i lay down to sleep so i'm taking over the counter medication to handle that. it's annoying though, but it could be worse.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Sat Sep 11 09:25:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I
    never got the virus. So it works.

    And I did none of that - and never got the virus. So it does nothing.

    Correlation is not causation. Maybe you've been lucky. I've probably been lucky too, as I'm not aware of having gotten covid.

    Irrelevant. I was pointing out that his Narrative is false.

    I've worn masks and social distanced to a point, but there's still a chance of getting covid.

    There will always be a chance. COVID is imply a new flu.

    Masks do nearly nothing. If you believe that they protect you or others, you are misleading yourself (or just a virtue signaller). Social distancing doesn't do much either - the exception is that if you are sick, don't do into the office, or party, etc. But people should be doing that COVID or not.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Sat Sep 11 09:30:00 2021
    plt wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I do not understand why people think it's a conspiracy when people are dying?

    People die every day. That's been the case for literally all the time humans have existed.

    People die every day from the common flu too. But we aren't told to get the flu shot or lose your job.

    People die from many other things - that were all put on hold due to the illogical, illegal shutdown that happened last year. Yet I don't see you crying about the people will die of cancer now because they couldn't get the early treatment they needed last year because of the COVID shutdown.

    So cry me a river, Leftie Elite. You guys are such hypocrites.

    It's not a game and it's real.

    No one said it wasn't. But COVID is NOT the huge problem that you and the Propaganda Ministry make it out to be.

    I have been in and out of
    hospitals several times during the past year and it seems that some
    people think its a game.

    People go in and out of the hospital COVID or not.

    You really need to understand reality. But, being a Leftie, I understand why you are unable to comprenend reality.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Sat Sep 11 09:32:00 2021
    plt wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Yes, it's still possible but you lower your risk.

    According to the people who actually work at hospitals, getting the not-vaccine actually puts you at HIGHER risk of dieing from COVID later on.

    Why do you think health professionals are against getting jabbed?

    Of course, you won't have seen any of that information. The Propaganda Ministry (where you get all your information) won't tell you any of that.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sat Sep 11 10:01:07 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 09:01 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:40 am

    To demand control of another persons bodily autonomy is tyrannical. We need more of the Left to spe
    up on this because there has to be critical thinkers among them. They have to realise that they are
    getting their way because the government, institutions and corporations support them, but it


    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.

    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?

    anyways, you can either get a test every week [i think everyone should. it's so easy and free now] or
    can refuse for religious reasons. i'm trying to become a christian scientist.

    I have reached the conclussion the mandate is just for show.

    Unless they have started deploying a new variant of the vaccines, the ones in circulation don't do much
    against the delta variant, which afaik is the dominant variant in circulation, so the logic behind the
    mandate is beyond me.

    It is like mandating a taetanus vaccine because there is an ebola outbreak. Even if you felt everybody
    should be forced to get a vaccine to stop ebola, no matter how much of a vaccination advocate you are:
    you would campaign for a vaccine against the disease which you want to counter.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat Sep 11 10:04:08 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 08:45 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:28 am

    That's something that has recently happened as well -- back in my day, the Left were
    anti-establishment, now they are conformists who support lockdown and jab mandates. The Left back
    the 80s would have rejected these policies.

    During the covid situation, it seems to me that conservatives are the ones who tend to want to reject
    those policies. And it seems some of the conservatives are the ones who tend to go as far as thinking
    the covid situation is a conspiracy or that covid doesn't exist at all.

    Nightfox


    I think that is JOhn's point. The world is upside down.

    30 years ago, it was lefties distributing flyers and warning everybody against Big Pharma conspiracies,
    corporate power and the like, and it was righties being comformist with the then-current state of things.
    Now it is the other way around and the flip happened in a matter of three or four years. It is freaking
    nuts.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat Sep 11 10:07:40 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 01:20 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Fri Sep 10 2021 01:16 pm

    Yes it is. I got my shot, wear my mask, keep social distance and I
    never got the virus. So it works.

    And I did none of that - and never got the virus. So it does nothing.

    Correlation is not causation. Maybe you've been lucky. I've probably been lucky too, as I'm not awar
    of having gotten covid.

    I've worn masks and social distanced to a point, but there's still a chance of getting covid.

    Nightfox


    I think Dr. What was actually accusing plt of equating correlation with causation by using the same
    argument in the other direction.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 10:21:59 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Nightfox on Sat Sep 11 2021 09:25 am


    Masks do nearly nothing. If you believe that they protect you or others, you are misleading yourself (or just a virtue signaller). Social distancing doesn't do much either - the exception is that if you are sick, don't do into the office, or party, etc. But people should be doing that COVID or not.

    i've been looking at this osha shit and one idea sprung to my mind.
    you can get the shot or prove every week you dont have covid.

    we should have weekly testing. that would be the easiest way to find out who has it and try to control it. it's easy now and free. there's a walgreens everywhere. you can get tested and find out in 5 hours. you dont even need to go deep in your nose.

    if everyone got tested every week we might be able to get a better grip on this. i'm not a fan of manditory stuff, though.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sat Sep 11 09:49:35 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 2021 10:21 am

    we should have weekly testing. that would be the easiest way to find out who has it and try to control it. it's easy now and free. there's a walgreens everywhere. you can get tested and find out in 5 hours. you dont even need to go deep in your nose.

    There's also a covid antigen test kit that Walgreens & other pharmacies sell that gives a result in 15 minutes.

    Nightfox

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to plt on Sat Sep 11 17:51:13 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 10:33:52

    There is no need about the debate on the vaccine, if you did not get you shot then get it or take the risk of getting sick or the possibility of droping dead.

    People ARE taking the risk of "possibly dropping dead"... it's up to them to decide which course of action to take.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Nightfox on Sat Sep 11 17:58:29 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 08:45:38

    During the covid situation, it seems to me that conservatives are the ones who tend to want to reject those policies. And it seems some of the conservatives are the ones who tend to go as far as thinking the covid situation is a conspiracy or that covid doesn't exist at all.

    Nightfox

    It is the conservatives who are rejecting these policies when back in the 70's-90's the inverse was true as they were more likely to support such government action -- for instance, war. COVID should be apoltiical as it is an issue concerning health, yet it has somehow been hijacked by politicans.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 18:43:34 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 13:36:00

    It's been steadily going downhill for a long time. My dad was a teacher for 43 years, so I got a good inside view of what was going on inside public education.

    I also remember seeing the quality of education of my brothers (just 4 and 7 years later) to what I got (and by then I realized how poor my education was).

    There was a person I know who constantly complains about how she has a "degree" but can't get anyone to give her a high paying job. When asked what the degree was in, she responded with some useless topic, then got mad when we explained reality to her. She's still in a low paying job and still mad at the world for not recognizing her "eliteness".

    I know many businesses were getting frustrated with new graduates thinking that they will hire in at a 6 figure salary, with all the perks of someone who had been in the company for 20 years.

    Education requires a massive revamp. No longer should we see young adults of woring age pursuing frivolous non-academic subjects whilst being subsidised by the tax-payer. I would like to see STEM subjects along with a number of art subjects, such as history, classics, law, and a few other such as languages remain with the vast majority of courses purged from the university curriculum.

    There is. But whatever (or whoever) that driver is, it's well hidden behind the scenes.

    Most politicans know what's going on - or at least they know that something is moving behind the scenes and they want to come out on top of whatever is going on, so they go with it. The politicans in the dark are a very small minority.

    That's part of why things don't change when we elect someone else.

    Yup. The problem started with the Left ruining the schools.

    Unfortunately, true. I don't know how many times I've been criticised for "not following the experts" - even though I've proven them wrong.

    I just do not think that the honest politicans are powerful enough to do what needs to be done. It is said in politics that you have to "go along to get along" and those who rock the boat do not last long. There aren't many outspoken critics of government policy, such as Ron Paul, who are tolerated. The country is financially unsound so it is clear to me a huge amount of policy and legislation is being pushed by external interests who are bankrolling the government. I hear that the Pentagon cannot account for $21 Trillion in DoD transactions. This is scandalous.

    The old "left" were what we would call "classical liberals" today. While they had opposite ideas about how things should be run, the "conservatives" had much more in common with the Lefties of today. The "classical liberals" are now on the "right" of the political spectrum because the Lefties have moved so far left.

    I think you're right. I've often told my wife that Trump getting elected made the Lefties have to "step up their game" to seize power. In doing so, the mask that they had been wearing has come off and many more people have seen the corruption.

    The Overton window has clearly shifted over the past thirty years causing a huge distortion in the spectrum of political ideology. There is something wrong now that people are unable to debate and discuss politcial matters without shouting over each other and resorting to ad-hominems. This was exaserbated during the Trump administration where we saw four years of abuse from both parties with no meanful discourse between them.

    The "official reality" is what we call the Narrative, and it's no different from the propaganda used in Communist Russia - or Orwell's "1984".

    I think we have been funnelled through a narrative for a long time and things are becoming so wacky that we are beginning to see through the stage curtain.

    Only for a short period (relatively speaking). The Left tends to completely mess things up. So places like the Socialist Utopia of California don't survive for long.

    They will probably continue printing money to clear the funding gap for as long as possible until the whole thing goes to pot.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 18:48:11 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 13:42:00

    They cannot have free and open debate because such debate will
    1) force them to listen to ideas that they know are right, but go against their beliefs. Think of trying to explain to a religious fanatic that the the sun does NOT go around the Earth.
    2) force them to accept the fact that they might be wrong and that's just too painful for the elitist attitudes to handle.

    Cancel culture hurts everyone as all you end up with is an echo-chamber filed with ideas that are never challenged. In times like these we need people speaking as honestly as possible across the board, otherwise we will end up falling off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Sat Sep 11 18:56:59 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 09:01:02

    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.

    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?

    If you have caught the virus your body will be producing anti-bodies and, more importantly, you will have cellular immunity. They should be testing people for natural immunity and presenting those people a health pass on those grounds.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 14:37:18 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 2021 18:48:11

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 13:42:00

    They cannot have free and open debate because such debate will
    1) force them to listen to ideas that they know are right, but go against their beliefs. Think of trying to explain to a
    religious fanatic that the the sun does NOT go around the Earth.
    2) force them to accept the fact that they might be wrong and that's just too painful for the elitist attitudes to handle.

    Cancel culture hurts everyone as all you end up with is an echo-chamber filed with ideas that are never challenged. In times
    like
    these we need people speaking as honestly as possible across the board, otherwise we will end up falling off a cliff like a
    bunch
    of lemmings.

    When it comes to the Virus then it's best to listen to the wise one. It's the individual choice to live or take the chance of death!

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 14:39:41 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to plt on Sat Sep 11 2021 17:51:13

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 10:33:52

    There is no need about the debate on the vaccine, if you did not get you shot then get it or take the risk of getting sick or
    the possibility of droping dead.

    People ARE taking the risk of "possibly dropping dead"... it's up to them to decide which course of action to take.

    Its not right when a person does not get the shot and follow the CDC guidelines and spread the virus to someone else and they get sick or possible die from it is it?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sat Sep 11 13:52:13 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sat Sep 11 2021 10:01 am

    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.

    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?

    anyways, you can either get a test every week [i think everyone should. it's so easy and free now] or can refuse for religious reasons. i'm trying to become a christian scientist.

    I have reached the conclussion the mandate is just for show.

    Unless they have started deploying a new variant of the vaccines, the ones in circulation don't do much against the delta variant, which afaik is the dominant variant in circulation, so the logic behind the mandate is beyond me.

    It is like mandating a taetanus vaccine because there is an ebola outbreak.

    it takes a long time to come up with rules and regulations. i'm not sure why they're not coming up with new vaccines if they work so well. there appears to be a lot of 'breakthrough' cases.

    people say breakthrough cases happen with all vaccines. that's news to me.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Sep 11 13:54:39 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Sep 11 2021 09:49 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 2021 10:21 am

    we should have weekly testing. that would be the easiest way to find out who has it and try to control it. it's easy now and free. there's a walgreens everywhere. you can get tested and find out in 5 hours. you dont even need to go deep in your nose.

    There's also a covid antigen test kit that Walgreens & other pharmacies sell that gives a result in 15 minutes.

    Nightfox

    yeah it's called binaxnow by abbott labs. my friend's dad worked on it.
    it's 24 bucks. if i'm going to be tested every week I'd rather have the free test where you get an email later on in the day. i have to drive to different walgreens to get an appointment that works for me but there's like 500 fucking walgreens in my city.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 14:52:09 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sat Sep 11 2021 09:30:00

    plt wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I do not understand why people think it's a conspiracy when people are dying?

    People die every day. That's been the case for literally all the time humans have existed.

    People die every day from the common flu too. But we aren't told to get the flu shot or lose your job.

    People die from many other things - that were all put on hold due to the illogical, illegal shutdown that happened last year.
    Yet

    That is really being selfish, and you should think of others before thinking about your self.


    I don't see you crying about the people will die of cancer now because they couldn't get the early treatment they needed last
    year
    because of the COVID shutdown.


    For those who do not get their shot and follow the CDC guidelines can become a host and spread the virus around. There is no debate becaus the Covid virus spreads like every other airborn virus. Maybe you should read the medical documentation that has been available for the past several decades and learn more before any more comments about it.

    So cry me a river, Leftie Elite. You guys are such hypocrites.

    It's not a game and it's real.

    No one said it wasn't. But COVID is NOT the huge problem that you and the Propaganda Ministry make it out to be.

    I have been in and out of
    hospitals several times during the past year and it seems that some people think its a game.

    People go in and out of the hospital COVID or not.

    You really need to understand reality. But, being a Leftie, I understand why you are unable to comprenend reality.


    The you fail to see the true reality it's virus like the flue and everything else it spreads. But there is ways to slow it down and prevent it from spreading. Maybe stop listening to what Trump said about it

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 15:00:15 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sat Sep 11 2021 09:30:00

    plt wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I do not understand why people think it's a conspiracy when people are dying?

    People die every day. That's been the case for literally all the time humans have existed.

    People die every day from the common flu too. But we aren't told to get the flu shot or lose your job.

    People die from many other things - that were all put on hold due to the illogical, illegal shutdown that happened last year.
    Yet
    I don't see you crying about the people will die of cancer now because they couldn't get the early treatment they needed last
    year
    because of the COVID shutdown.

    Your not really making any point but and making excuses to follow the CDC guidelines or continue to spread false information. People just want to be lazy and not follow the CDC guidelines are at risk of getting virus. Like the flue have been documentated my professional doctors, and I recommend you read more before you post any more comments.

    Following the CDC recommendations will help stop the spread of the virus PERIOD. Yes, People die but sometimes it's only do to their own ignorance.


    So cry me a river, Leftie Elite. You guys are such hypocrites.

    It's not a game and it's real.

    No one said it wasn't. But COVID is NOT the huge problem that you and the Propaganda Ministry make it out to be.

    Mr Trump please stop spreading false information.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 13:57:34 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to MRO on Sat Sep 11 2021 06:56 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 09:01:02

    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.

    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?

    If you have caught the virus your body will be producing anti-bodies and, more importantly, you will have cellular immunity. They should be testing people for natural immunity and presenting those people a health pass on those grounds.

    yeah but there's people out there (some of them i know) that think i'm a future murderer and i need shots and a booster.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to plt on Sat Sep 11 15:55:22 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 2021 02:52 pm

    The you fail to see the true reality it's virus like the flue and everything else it spreads. But there is ways to slow it down and prevent it from spreading. Maybe stop listening to what Tr
    said about it


    I don't know what you keep bringing Trump into the conversation, specially since I have heard he is recommending to take the vaccine.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Arelor on Sat Sep 11 17:45:32 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Sat Sep 11 2021 02:52 pm

    I don't know what you keep bringing Trump into the conversation, specially since I have heard he is recommending to take the vaccine.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to plt on Sun Sep 12 12:20:31 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 14:37:18

    Cancel culture hurts everyone as all you end up with is an echo-chamber filed with ideas that are never challenged. In times like
    these we need people speaking as honestly as possible across the board, otherwise we will end up falling off a cliff like a bunch
    of lemmings.

    When it comes to the Virus then it's best to listen to the wise one. It's the individual choice to live or take the chance of death!

    It sounds like you advocate free choice. I don't think Dr Fauchi is wise, he has made many u-turns during this pandemic so I would rather trust my own intuition and live (or die) with the consequences.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to plt on Sun Sep 12 12:23:29 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 14:39:41

    Its not right when a person does not get the shot and follow the CDC guidelines and spread the virus to someone else and they get sick or possible die from it is it?

    My vaccination status, or anyone else's, for that matter, is irrelevant. If you are vaccinated you are protected, you do not have to worry about anyone else's vaccine status.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Sun Sep 12 12:31:18 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sat Sep 11 2021 13:52:13

    it takes a long time to come up with rules and regulations. i'm not sure why they're not coming up with new vaccines if they work so well. there appears to be a lot of 'breakthrough' cases.

    people say breakthrough cases happen with all vaccines. that's news to me. did anybody else know this? probably not

    In traditional medicine, when a person is vaccinated, that person is immune to which ever virus or disease they are vaccinated against. I can be vaccinated for deadly diseases such as tetanus, diptheria, polio, yellow fever or malaria and be totally immune whereas they claim that this so called vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading the coronavirus.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Sun Sep 12 12:42:03 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 13:57:34

    yeah but there's people out there (some of them i know) that think i'm a future murderer and i need shots and a booster.

    Asymptomatic spread is not a driving force behind the spread of a virus. Dr Fauci even said that at the beginning of the pandemic. If you are suffering from flu-like symptoms then you have obviously to self-isolate, otherwise you are not really spreading anything.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 07:07:38 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to MRO on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:31 pm

    In traditional medicine, when a person is vaccinated, that person is immune to which ever virus or disease they are vaccinated against. I can be vaccinated for deadly diseases such as tetanus, diptheria, polio, yellow fever or malaria and be totally immune whereas they claim that this so called vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading the coronavirus.

    then they say "but it won't be as bad" yeah right. how do they know that?
    we should trust them?

    and then we got the liar fauci acting like the god of covid information when he's partially responsible for what went on in wuhan. they took animal viruses and played with them so they were more transmitable to humans. they said that isnt gain of function research.

    Anthony fauci is a devil and should be tied to a poll and stoned to death or worse.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 07:10:06 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to MRO on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:42 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 13:57:34

    yeah but there's people out there (some of them i know) that think i'm a future murderer and i need shots and a booster.

    Asymptomatic spread is not a driving force behind the spread of a virus. Dr

    yeah it is. with delta you are super contagious during the first week when you have no symptoms. then you get a little cough diarrhea.

    that's why this virus is so hard to control. people spread it with no symptoms.
    Dr
    Fauci even said that at the beginning of the pandemic. If you are suffering


    hold on, you are quoting fauci? he also said not to wear masks. he also lied to all of us several times.
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  • From Utopian Galt@VERT/IUTOPIA to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 19:38:05 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Fri Sep 10 2021 11:40 am

    To demand control of another persons bodily autonomy is tyrannical. We need more of the Left to speak up on this because there has to be critical thinkers among them. They have to realise that they are getting their way because the government, institutions and corporations support them, but it doesn't make them right. I haven't observed any free and open debate which needs to happen before it's too late.
    Free and open debate is not going to happen with the left. Its not the free speech movement of the 1960s anymore, its totally the opposite now. Unless your speech is to the left of Kamala Harris your speech is not respected or valid on college campuses or big businesses.

    Both the left and the right piss on bodily autonomy. The left with vaccines and the right on abortion. Id be ok with a simple 3 month rule, with a provision that abortion clinics have to immediately cremate the unwanted pregnancy instead of harvesting the byproduct for science.

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  • From Utopian Galt@VERT/IUTOPIA to MRO on Sat Sep 11 19:39:25 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 09:01 am

    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.
    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?
    I think people who have antibodies without vaccination should be given at least a year without having to get a vaccine. Its more generous than what California or Biden would want.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 14:57:45 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:20:31

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 14:37:18

    Cancel culture hurts everyone as all you end up with is an echo-chamber filed with ideas that are never challenged. In
    times
    like
    these we need people speaking as honestly as possible across the board, otherwise we will end up falling off a cliff like
    a
    bunch
    of lemmings.

    When it comes to the Virus then it's best to listen to the wise one. It's the individual choice to live or take the chance of
    death!

    It sounds like you advocate free choice. I don't think Dr Fauchi is wise, he has made many u-turns during this pandemic so I
    would
    rather trust my own intuition and live (or die) with the consequences.

    That is who it is. It's the individual choice and by making bad choices could lead to some bad results.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 15:03:07 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:23:29

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 14:39:41

    Its not right when a person does not get the shot and follow the CDC guidelines and spread the virus to someone else and they
    get sick or possible die from it is it?

    My vaccination status, or anyone else's, for that matter, is irrelevant. If you are vaccinated you are protected, you do not
    have
    to worry about anyone else's vaccine status.

    Your really missing the point. Go back and read the other messages.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 15:12:26 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:20:31

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 14:37:18

    Cancel culture hurts everyone as all you end up with is an echo-chamber filed with ideas that are never challenged. In
    times
    like
    these we need people speaking as honestly as possible across the board, otherwise we will end up falling off a cliff like
    a
    bunch
    of lemmings.

    When it comes to the Virus then it's best to listen to the wise one. It's the individual choice to live or take the chance of
    death!

    It sounds like you advocate free choice. I don't think Dr Fauchi is wise, he has made many u-turns during this pandemic so I
    would
    rather trust my own intuition and live (or die) with the consequences.

    As long as that individual does not spread the virus to someone else like it has been doing for a long period of time. Spreading false information is wrong!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Utopian Galt on Sun Sep 12 13:59:26 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Utopian Galt to MRO on Sat Sep 11 2021 07:39 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Fri Sep 10 2021 09:01 am

    now obiden wants osha to make it manditory to have vaccinated employees.
    i dont need the old vaccination. i have anti bodies. does it even 'work' against these many variants?
    I think people who have antibodies without vaccination should be given at least a year without having to get a vaccine. Its more generous than what California or Biden would want.

    it's still wrong to require people to get this vaccine.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Sun Sep 12 18:05:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

    i've been looking at this osha shit and one idea sprung to my mind.
    you can get the shot or prove every week you dont have covid.

    But that's the myth. Getting the shot will not prevent you from getting COVID.
    It's not a "vaccine" and does not provide immunity. It's just a theraputic that supposedly prevents you from getting deathly ill.

    So not having to get tested if you got the shot makes no sense.

    And then there's the other part: Sooner or later, you **will** get COVID
    no matter what you do.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 18:09:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Cancel culture hurts everyone as all you end up with is an echo-chamber filed with ideas that are never challenged. In times like these we need people speaking as honestly as possible across the board, otherwise we will end up falling off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings.

    But that would create an environment where people are harder to control.

    Remember: the end game for this is the "elites" ruling everyone else.

    Actually, the end game is the end of civilization. But the "elites" (incorrectly) believe that they can prevent that.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Sun Sep 12 18:13:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    For those who do not get their shot and follow the CDC guidelines can become a host and spread the virus around.

    The same is true for those who do get their shot.

    The COVID "vaccine" does not grant immunity.

    Maybe you
    should read the medical documentation that has been available for the
    past several decades and learn more before any more comments about it.

    Maybe you should follow your own suggestion and read the medical docmentation and stop parroting the "experts" in the Propaganda ministry.

    The you fail to see the true reality

    Your false Narrative is not reality. But Lefties always project, so I understand why you made that comment.

    But there is ways to slow it down and prevent it from spreading.

    Yes there is. But it's not the fake vaccine, mask wearing, etc.

    Maybe stop listening to what Trump said about it

    Have you seen a shrink about your TDS yet?


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Sun Sep 12 22:55:44 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 18:13:00

    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    For those who do not get their shot and follow the CDC guidelines can become a host and spread the virus around.

    The same is true for those who do get their shot.

    The COVID "vaccine" does not grant immunity.

    Maybe you
    should read the medical documentation that has been available for the past several decades and learn more before any more comments about it.

    Maybe you should follow your own suggestion and read the medical docmentation and stop parroting the "experts" in the Propaganda
    ministry.

    I have and you have been reading bad information. If you believe that the virus is not dangerous and fail to follow the CDC guidelines then our living in a different world of delusions, on drugs or a very sick person.


    Your false Narrative is not reality. But Lefties always project, so I understand why you made that comment.

    But there is ways to slow it down and prevent it from spreading.

    Yes there is. But it's not the fake vaccine, mask wearing, etc.

    Maybe stop listening to what Trump said about it

    Have you seen a shrink about your TDS yet?


    The only one making false narratives is you. You continue to fail to read the medical documents an like to spread false information to only cause confusion. Or may be your brain washed like some of the other GOP officials.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Sun Sep 12 23:14:00 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 18:13:00


    Since your seem to lack the proper intelligence

    Read this:

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/immuno.html

    How long after getting my initial COVID-19 vaccines can I get an additional dose?
    CDC recommends the additional dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine be administered at least four weeks after a second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine.

    Can you mix and match the vaccines?
    For people who received either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna

    What should immunocompromised people who received the J&J/Janssen vaccine do? The FDA

    Emerging data have demonstrated that immunocompromised people who have low or no protection following two doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines may have an improved response after an additional dose of the same vaccine. There is not enough data at this time to determine whether immunocompromised people who received the Johnson & Johnson

    What are the risks of vaccinating individuals with an additional dose?

    serious side effects are rare, but may occur.

    What should immunocompromised people who received the J&J/Janssen vaccine do?

    Emerging data have demonstrated that immunocompromised people who have low or no protection following two doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines may have an improved response after an additional dose of the same vaccine. There is not enough data at this time to determine whether immunocompromised people who received the Johnson & Johnson

    You do not have a doctor degress and lack the intelligence to understand what the virus is and how to prevent it from spreading. You acting just like some of the GOP acting like your acting with the infulence of Satan the Devil. Your comments or irrelevent i and you have evidence to back up what your saying. You only making speculations that is leading to spreading additional false information.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to plt on Sun Sep 12 21:58:02 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Arelor on Sat Sep 11 2021 05:45 pm

    I don't know what you keep bringing Trump into the conversation,
    specially since I have heard he is recommending to take the vaccine.

    When the virus started he down played it by saying something like" I am not concerned it it go away" so may life's where wasted because of Trump.

    Uhm totally provably false,

    Took early action to cut off travel from China

    Built the worlds leading testing system from nothing

    Enacted mitigation measures to slow the spread

    Mobilized public and private sectors to secure needed supplies

    Took action to protect vulnerable Americans

    Launched effort to deliver a vaccine and therapeutics in record time

    Provided support to workers and businesses

    Paved way for reopening to get America working again

    Surged resources to hot spots as they arose

    Confronted China as origin of the virus while Democrats and media cowered.

    You get your info from dishonest media sources try honest resarch instead of relying on bias'd sources.
    your views are totally political.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 22:09:12 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:23 pm

    Its not right when a person does not get the shot and follow the CDC
    guidelines and spread the virus to someone else and they get sick or
    possible die from it is it?

    My vaccination status, or anyone else's, for that matter, is irrelevant. If you are vaccinated you are protected, you do not have to worry about anyone else's vaccine status.

    Amen, and people that have already had Covid are better protected than those who have had the vaccines.
    After I had my vaccine I got an enlarged heart like so many others, I think I would have rather had covid than the side effects.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Sun Sep 12 22:20:33 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 07:07 am

    In traditional medicine, when a person is vaccinated, that person is
    immune to which ever virus or disease they are vaccinated against. I
    can be vaccinated for deadly diseases such as tetanus, diptheria,
    polio, yellow fever or malaria and be totally immune whereas they
    claim that this so called vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or
    spreading the coronavirus.

    then they say "but it won't be as bad" yeah right. how do they know that? we should trust them?

    and then we got the liar fauci acting like the god of covid information when he's partially responsible for what went on in wuhan. they took animal viruses and played with them so they were more transmitable to humans. they said that isnt gain of function research.

    Don't forget the wanna be dictator Biden trying to force everyone into getting vaccinated, he can't legally mandate vaccines for anyone.
    He is already being challenged by several Governers.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to plt on Sun Sep 12 22:33:23 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Sun Sep 12 2021 10:55 pm

    For those who do not get their shot and follow the CDC guidelines
    can become a host and spread the virus around.

    The same is true for those who do get their shot.

    The COVID "vaccine" does not grant immunity.

    Maybe you
    should read the medical documentation that has been available for
    the past several decades and learn more before any more comments
    about it.

    Maybe you should follow your own suggestion and read the medical
    docmentation and stop parroting the "experts" in the Propaganda
    ministry.

    I have and you have been reading bad information. If you believe that the virus is not dangerous and fail to follow the CDC guidelines then our living in a different world of delusions, on drugs or a very sick person.

    The problem I see is the leftists always stubornly think they're right no matter what.
    they live in a bubble and only read from approved leftist marxist communist playbook.
    you really should get out of your bubble and look at all the research instead of just the "approved resarch".

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Denn on Mon Sep 13 01:38:34 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Denn to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 22:09:12

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:23 pm

    Its not right when a person does not get the shot and follow the CDC
    guidelines and spread the virus to someone else and they get sick or
    possible die from it is it?

    My vaccination status, or anyone else's, for that matter, is irrelevant. If you are vaccinated you are protected, you do
    not
    have to worry about anyone else's vaccine status.

    Amen, and people that have already had Covid are better protected than those who have had the vaccines.
    After I had my vaccine I got an enlarged heart like so many others, I think I would have rather had covid than the side
    effects.

    Here is some information about getting the shots and the effects of it. In most cases it safe to have.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Denn on Mon Sep 13 01:46:05 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Denn to plt on Sun Sep 12 2021 22:33:23

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Dr. What on Sun Sep 12 2021 10:55 pm

    For those who do not get their shot and follow the CDC guidelines pl>> can become a host and spread the virus around.

    The same is true for those who do get their shot.

    The COVID "vaccine" does not grant immunity.

    Maybe you
    should read the medical documentation that has been available for pl>> the past several decades and learn more before any more comments pl>> about it.

    Maybe you should follow your own suggestion and read the medical
    docmentation and stop parroting the "experts" in the Propaganda
    ministry.

    I have and you have been reading bad information. If you believe that the virus is not dangerous and fail to follow the CDC
    guidelines then our living in a different world of delusions, on drugs or a very sick person.

    The problem I see is the leftists always stubornly think they're right no matter what.
    they live in a bubble and only read from approved leftist marxist communist playbook.
    you really should get out of your bubble and look at all the research instead of just the "approved resarch".

    I have and the shot works if you follow the CDC guidelines. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Maybe if you stop listening to the GOP you may undestand what I have been explaining. I have already read and post the information hee from CDC and By the way CDC is more qualified then you in medcal.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Denn on Mon Sep 13 01:50:32 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Denn to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 22:09:12

    Amen, and people that have already had Covid are better protected than those who have had the vaccines.
    After I had my vaccine I got an enlarged heart like so many others, I think I would have rather had covid than the side

    Maybe for some folkes that have a medical reason can not take the shot but for most people they can take it, it works as long as they follow and do what the CDC recommended. To make your stupid points when the shots work to help prevent the flue and other related virus. ITS BEN USED FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES AND IT WORKS.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Mon Sep 13 03:28:16 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sun Sep 12 2021 06:05 pm

    MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

    i've been looking at this osha shit and one idea sprung to my mind.
    you can get the shot or prove every week you dont have covid.

    But that's the myth. Getting the shot will not prevent you from getting COVID.
    It's not a "vaccine" and does not provide immunity. It's just a theraputic that supposedly prevents you from getting deathly ill.

    So not having to get tested if you got the shot makes no sense.

    And then there's the other part: Sooner or later, you **will** get COVID
    no matter what you do.


    yeah it's incredibly contagious. i wonder why they arent just doing quick testing instead of all the other stuff. it's really not useful. you cant even call a temp scan effective anymore. i had no fever and my boss told me everyone he knew who had covid delta didnt have a fever.
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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to John Martin on Mon Sep 13 02:32:36 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to MRO on Sun Sep 12 2021 12:31:18

    In traditional medicine, when a person is vaccinated, that person is immune to which ever virus or disease they are vaccinated against. I can be vaccinated for deadly diseases such as tetanus, diptheria, polio, yellow fever or malaria and be totally immune whereas they claim that this so called vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading the coronavirus.

    That's not true. None of the vaccines you mentioned are completely effective. The diphtheria vaccine, for example, is only about 96% or 97% effective after
    3 doses (about 55% effective after 1 dose).

    The reason why the vaccines look to be perfectly effective is because we have herd immunity. More than 99.9% of civilized people are fully vaccinated, usually as a baby. Even if each individual is only 96% protected, everybody else in society is equally protected and there's next to no opportunity to get infected.

    Outbreaks do still happen. Sadly, because of the anti-vax movement, there has been an increase in outbreaks for many of the diseases that we used to have herd immunity against.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Mon Sep 13 11:51:09 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 07:10:06

    yeah it is. with delta you are super contagious during the first week when you have no symptoms. then you get a little cough diarrhea.

    that's why this virus is so hard to control. people spread it with no symptoms.
    Dr
    Fauci even said that at the beginning of the pandemic. If you are suffering


    hold on, you are quoting fauci? he also said not to wear masks. he also

    I believe that is false logic. You cannot be contagious unless you are symptomatic which is a notion that has been established in the medical field for a very long time. There is no known virus that can be driven by asymptomatic spread. If you are not coughing, wheezing and have a runny nose, for instance, your body is not fighting anything and therefore you do not carry a viral load.

    Masks are ineffective against a virus, Fauci was right the first time.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Utopian Galt on Mon Sep 13 11:58:52 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Utopian Galt to John Martin on Sat Sep 11 2021 19:38:05

    Free and open debate is not going to happen with the left. Its not the free speech movement of the 1960s anymore, its totally the opposite now. Unless your speech is to the left of Kamala Harris your speech is not respected or valid on college campuses or big businesses.

    Both the left and the right piss on bodily autonomy. The left with vaccines and the right on abortion. Id be ok with a simple 3 month rule, with a provision that abortion clinics have to immediately cremate the unwanted pregnancy instead of harvesting the byproduct for science.

    If we've been so divided that we cannot engage in meaningful discourse we will all suffer as a result. I do find it amusing that both the Left and the Right simultaneously carry beliefs in their head which are in diametrical opposition. We have truly arrived at the "Age of Confusion".

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to plt on Mon Sep 13 12:05:07 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 14:57:45

    That is who it is. It's the individual choice and by making bad choices could lead to some bad results.

    The point is that people are free to make their own choices, good or bad. The moment the goverment removes bodily sovereignty the individual is left with no freedom. I was vaccinated early on but that decision was my own.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Mon Sep 13 12:17:21 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 18:09:00

    But that would create an environment where people are harder to control.

    Remember: the end game for this is the "elites" ruling everyone else.

    Actually, the end game is the end of civilization. But the "elites" (incorrectly) believe that they can prevent that.

    According to Oswald Spengler, the Western world is ending and we are witnessing the final season, the "winter" of Faustian civilisation.

    If the elites believe they can "reboot" our civilisation, good luck to them. We are, as it were, between two ages.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Denn on Mon Sep 13 12:25:07 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Denn to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 22:09:12

    Amen, and people that have already had Covid are better protected than those who have had the vaccines.
    After I had my vaccine I got an enlarged heart like so many others, I think I would have rather had covid than the side effects.

    I have had the vaccine too and have fortunately suffered no known side-effects. The natural immune system is an amazing thing. Humanity has been around for over 100,000 years and it is all thanks to our God given innate immune system.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Mon Sep 13 07:00:02 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to MRO on Mon Sep 13 2021 11:51 am

    that's why this virus is so hard to control. people spread it with no symptoms.

    I believe that is false logic. You cannot be contagious unless you are


    well you believe wrong.

    https://i.imgur.com/Jjp1gnZ.png
    https://i.imgur.com/aLhghHW.png

    There is no known virus that can be driven by
    asymptomatic spread. If you are not coughing, wheezing and have a runny

    are you the world's greatest doctor? you know something the entire world doesn't know?

    Masks are ineffective against a virus, Fauci was right the first time.

    which first time was that? when he said it was, or wasnt. or when he said it wasnt when it really was so the medical community could have masks?

    do you see how you follow retarded masters now?
    do you see yet?
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 14:38:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to plt <=-

    It sounds like you advocate free choice. I don't think Dr Fauchi is
    wise, he has made many u-turns during this pandemic so I would rather trust my own intuition and live (or die) with the consequences.

    What some would call u-turns, others would call changing hypotheses as data and evidence presents itself. It's called Science.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Mon Sep 13 07:58:00 2021
    Denn wrote to plt <=-

    Uhm totally provably false,

    Took early action to cut off travel from China

    Define early? And Action?

    Not so much a "Travel Ban" as "Porous Restrictions".

    The restrictions took place on or around the time other countries enacted tighter restrictions, and the US allowed travel from Hong Kong and Macau,
    both Chinese territories.

    8,000 Chinese and foreign nationals entered the US through those territories in the following 3 months.

    27,000 Americans returned in the first month, and officials lost track of 1,600 of them.

    Enacted mitigation measures to slow the spread

    Like Biden is being criticized for doing?

    Mobilized public and private sectors to secure needed supplies

    Some would complain about his foot dragging in enacting the Defense
    Production act.



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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to plt on Mon Sep 13 12:27:25 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 01:46 am

    The problem I see is the leftists always stubornly think they're right
    no matter what. they live in a bubble and only read from approved
    leftist marxist communist playbook. you really should get out of your
    bubble and look at all the research instead of just the "approved
    resarch".

    I have and the shot works if you follow the CDC guidelines. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Maybe if you stop listening to the GOP you may undestand what I have been explaining. I have already read and post the information hee from CDC and By the way CDC is more qualified then you in medcal.

    That's exactly the point I made that you stick to one "APPROVED point of view" and you fail to look at aother reputable studies and experts.
    I had the shots and like so many others had a enlarged heart afterwards, the "vaccine" is not as safe as leftist propaganists say it is.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 13 13:33:03 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 07:58 am

    Denn wrote to plt <=-

    Uhm totally provably false,

    Took early action to cut off travel from China

    Define early? And Action?

    Not so much a "Travel Ban" as "Porous Restrictions".


    liberals were actually calling him a xenophobe for his china travel ban.

    Some would complain about his foot dragging in enacting the Defense Production act.

    some stupid liberal.

    anyways. say something good about your president, joe biden.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Denn on Mon Sep 13 16:19:47 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Denn to plt on Mon Sep 13 2021 12:27:25

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 01:46 am

    The problem I see is the leftists always stubornly think they're right
    no matter what. they live in a bubble and only read from approved
    leftist marxist communist playbook. you really should get out of your
    bubble and look at all the research instead of just the "approved
    resarch".

    I have and the shot works if you follow the CDC guidelines. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Maybe if you stop
    listening to the GOP you may undestand what I have been explaining. I have already read and post the information hee from
    CDC
    and By the way CDC is more qualified then you in medcal.

    That's exactly the point I made that you stick to one "APPROVED point of view" and you fail to look at aother reputable studies
    and experts.
    I had the shots and like so many others had a enlarged heart afterwards, the "vaccine" is not as safe as leftist propaganists
    say
    it is.

    I can understand if someone has a medical condition that prevents them from getting their shot but for the idiots that do not do it and following the CDC guidelines I have no pitty on them.

    Other people can get sick even if there is no symptons of the virus and no individual has the right to get other people sick and possible die. You really need to do more research and learn the facts. It has nothing to do with politics and the folkes at CDC have more intelligence then you.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Denn on Mon Sep 13 17:19:56 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Denn to plt on Mon Sep 13 2021 12:27:25

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 01:46 am

    The problem I see is the leftists always stubornly think they're right
    no matter what. they live in a bubble and only read from approved
    leftist marxist communist playbook. you really should get out of your
    bubble and look at all the research instead of just the "approved
    resarch".

    I have and the shot works if you follow the CDC guidelines. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Maybe if you stop
    listening to the GOP you may undestand what I have been explaining. I have already read and post the information hee from
    CDC
    and By the way CDC is more qualified then you in medcal.

    That's exactly the point I made that you stick to one "APPROVED point of view" and you fail to look at aother reputable studies
    and experts.
    I had the shots and like so many others had a enlarged heart afterwards, the "vaccine" is not as safe as leftist propaganists
    say
    it is.

    I want to make one more point that someone people live in this world driven by the influenced by Satan the devil making them by no other means with a twisted minds, living in a dream world of finction, go only by assumptions with no real evidence to prove what they are saying.

    Some of the member's of The GOP only made the problem the virus worse when all this crap started it shows that some of them got their head stuck up their *ss that they fail to see what is going on. Yes, The GOP is so hooked in deregulating the government that they are part of the problem and not part of the solution to our problems. We an go on all day with this crap such as global warning and all the other f*ckups The Gop did, its not going to get better until this system of things come to end because man was never made to rul the earth.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to plt on Mon Sep 13 19:39:55 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 04:19 pm

    Other people can get sick even if there is no symptons of the virus and no individual has the right to get other people sick and possible die. You real need to do more research and learn the facts. It has nothing to do with politics and the folkes at CDC have more intelligence then you.

    If the vaccines were advertised a low success rate I could accept the argument for consideration, but when they are advertised as close to 100% effective I have a problem with the argument.

    If the vaccine has a close to 100% effectiveness rate then covid infected people poses no significative risk against vaccinated people. Screeching "UNVACCINATED PEOPLE IS KILLING US" is then quite a radical and baseless accusation to make. Specially when you have declared you don't care if unvaccinated people gets screwed up - in which case unvaccinated people passing the virus to other unvaccinated people is not a problem for you.
    Most importantly, you have declared that anybody who follows recomendations, such as keeping distance, wearing a mask and taking the shots is fully protected - at which point the notion of unvaccinated people passing the disease to people who follows procedure is not possible.

    From your point of view, the best outcome is for idiots and morons and Trumpsters to NOT take the vaccine so they all die because everybody else is completely protected. Which is why I am still wondering why you are campaigning so hard in this echo since it torpedoes your own position.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Arelor on Mon Sep 13 22:46:09 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to plt on Mon Sep 13 2021 19:39:55

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 04:19 pm

    Other people can get sick even if there is no symptons of the virus and no individual has the right to get other people sick
    and
    possible die. You real need to do more research and learn the facts. It has nothing to do with politics and the folkes at CDC
    have more intelligence then you.

    If the vaccines were advertised a low success rate I could accept the argument for consideration, but when they are advertised
    as
    close to 100% effective I have a problem with the argument.

    If the vaccine has a close to 100% effectiveness rate then covid infected people poses no significative risk against vaccinated
    people. Screeching "UNVACCINATED PEOPLE IS KILLING US" is then quite a radical and baseless accusation to make. Specially when
    you
    have declared you don't care if unvaccinated people gets screwed up - in which case unvaccinated people passing the virus to
    other
    unvaccinated people is not a problem for you.
    Most importantly, you have declared that anybody who follows recomendations, such as keeping distance, wearing a mask and taking
    the shots is fully protected - at which point the notion of unvaccinated people passing the disease to people who follows
    procedure
    is not possible.

    From your point of view, the best outcome is for idiots and morons and Trumpsters to NOT take the vaccine so they all die
    because
    everybody else is completely protected. Which is why I am still wondering why you are campaigning so hard in this echo since it
    torpedoes your own position.

    --

    Are you getting this information from the CDC? That is the best place to get it. Nothing is going to be 100% but getting the shot and following the CDC guidelines is the best solution and the best protection from getting the virus.

    Any how if you ignore the recommendations like Trump did when the virus started then you have a good chance of getting it. So what is better to live or die.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Ksource on Tue Sep 14 11:56:56 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Ksource to John Martin on Mon Sep 13 2021 02:32:36

    That's not true. None of the vaccines you mentioned are completely effective. The diphtheria vaccine, for example, is only about 96% or 97% effective after
    3 doses (about 55% effective after 1 dose).

    The reason why the vaccines look to be perfectly effective is because we have herd immunity. More than 99.9% of civilized people are fully vaccinated, usually as a baby. Even if each individual is only 96% protected, everybody else in society is equally protected and there's next to no opportunity to get infected.

    Outbreaks do still happen. Sadly, because of the anti-vax movement, there has been an increase in outbreaks for many of the diseases that we used to have herd immunity against.

    I can obtain a vaccine which is specific to my travel destination, go there with impunity and thereafter return home without any concern about spreading a tropical disease to a population possessing no heard immunity. I researched the diptheria vaccine and you are right. The booster shots occur once each decade, however. The concern most of us are having with the COVID shots is the suggestion that boosters are part of the requirement to maintain a valid health-passport. I am not anti-vaccine as I am double jabbed myself. My argument is purely against the idea of mandated vaccines -- the vulnerable have already been vaccinated, no one else needs to be. The mortality rate for people below the age of 65 who have no comorbidities is insignificant renering the vaccine needless.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to MRO on Tue Sep 14 12:05:48 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to John Martin on Mon Sep 13 2021 07:00:02

    well you believe wrong.

    https://i.imgur.com/Jjp1gnZ.png
    https://i.imgur.com/aLhghHW.png

    are you the world's greatest doctor? you know something the entire world doesn't know?

    There are plenty of doctors who have spoken about viral load in the past and have provided evidence contrary to yours. No virus in history has behaved in the way you suggest which either means you are wrong, or this is an unnatural disease.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Sep 14 12:11:19 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to John Martin on Sun Sep 12 2021 14:38:00

    What some would call u-turns, others would call changing hypotheses as data and evidence presents itself. It's called Science.

    Unlikely. COVID-19 is a cousin of SARS. The scientific community know a great deal abouts SARS so SARS-CoV-2 should not have caught them all by surprise.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Arelor on Tue Sep 14 07:35:36 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Arelor to plt on Mon Sep 13 2021 19:39:55

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: plt to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 04:19 pm

    Other people can get sick even if there is no symptons of the virus and no individual has the right to get other people sick
    and
    possible die. You real need to do more research and learn the facts. It has nothing to do with politics and the folkes at CDC
    have more intelligence then you.

    If the vaccines were advertised a low success rate I could accept the argument for consideration, but when they are advertised
    as
    close to 100% effective I have a problem with the argument.

    If the vaccine has a close to 100% effectiveness rate then covid infected people poses no significative risk against vaccinated
    people. Screeching "UNVACCINATED PEOPLE IS KILLING US" is then quite a radical and baseless accusation to make. Specially when
    you
    have declared you don't care if unvaccinated people gets screwed up - in which case unvaccinated people passing the virus to
    other
    unvaccinated people is not a problem for you.
    Most importantly, you have declared that anybody who follows recomendations, such as keeping distance, wearing a mask and taking
    the shots is fully protected - at which point the notion of unvaccinated people passing the disease to people who follows
    procedure
    is not possible.

    From your point of view, the best outcome is for idiots and morons and Trumpsters to NOT take the vaccine so they all die
    because
    everybody else is completely protected. Which is why I am still wondering why you are campaigning so hard in this echo since it
    torpedoes your own position.

    --


    You fail to understand that the facts like all viruses including the measles and the flue can be prevented by following the CDC guidlines. The only idiots are the ones that continue to test the professional field like the CDC are the only ones that are the real idiots.

    Shots have been proved to help the spread of virus for the past several decades. The ones who choose to ignore the fact only show their low intelligence they have and is clearly influence by Saton the devil.

    Yes, I am refering to people like you:

    You can be certain that in the last days there will be some very hard times. 2 People will love only themselves and money. They will be proud, stuck-up, rude, and disobedient to their parents. They will also be ungrateful, godless, 3 heartless, and hateful. Their words will be cruel, and they will have no self-control or pity. These people will hate everything that is good. 4 They will be sneaky, reckless, and puffed up with pride. Instead of loving God, they will love pleasure. 5 Even though they will make a show of being religious, their religion won.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Tue Sep 14 08:09:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I have and you have been reading bad information. If you believe that
    the virus is not dangerous and fail to follow the CDC guidelines then
    our living in a different world of delusions, on drugs or a very sick person.

    So please explain how a virus that impacts 0.7% of the population and is only fatal to 0.07% (numbers based on what my state puts out - and they are known to beabnormally high) is "dangerous"?

    The whole "COVID's going to wipe out the human race" Narrative was proven to be a complete fabrication about 1 month into this mess.

    The CDC has become a partisan political entity - not a health/medical entity - so any "guidelines" it provides are just political theater.

    The only one making false narratives is you. You continue to fail to
    read the medical documents an like to spread false information to only cause confusion.

    I read plenty of medical documents as I listen to actual doctors - not political hacks who claim the title of "doctor".

    Or may be your brain washed like some of the other GOP officials.

    More evidence of TDS. You really need to see your shrink about that.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Tue Sep 14 08:15:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Since your seem to lack the proper intelligence

    *laugh*

    Read this: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/immun o.html

    The CDC has no credibility at this point. Your link is nothing more than propaganda.

    Why doesn't the CDC answer the question about natural immunity? Even that quack Fauci keeps avoiding it. Evidence from Isreal (who drank the not-vaccine Cool Aid) is showing that natural immunity is 13X better than the not-vaccine.

    The answer is, of course, that most people already had COVID and recovered - so have natural immunity and don't need the not-vaccine. But that goes against the false Narrative so it needs to be dismissed.

    Why did the CDC quietly (almost stealth-like) change the definitions of "vaccine" and "vaccinated"? No actual doctor would agree with thos definitions.

    What are the risks of vaccinating individuals with an additional dose? serious side effects are rare, but may occur.

    *Laugh* Who's not reading the medical literature? A huge upward swing in mydocardis(sp?) in teens who get (yet don't need, according to the science) the not-vaccine.

    You do not have a doctor degress and lack the intelligence to
    understand what the virus is and how to prevent it from spreading. You acting just like some of the GOP acting like your acting with the infulence of Satan the Devil. Your comments or irrelevent i and you
    have evidence to back up what your saying. You only making speculations that is leading to spreading additional false information.

    *ROFL* Your TDS is really flaring up again. It's time to see your shrink.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 08:17:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    If the elites believe they can "reboot" our civilisation, good luck to them. We are, as it were, between two ages.

    I can't argue that. Regardless of what happens, things will never go back to the way that they were.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Denn on Tue Sep 14 08:29:00 2021
    Denn wrote to plt <=-

    When the virus started he down played it by saying something like" I am not concerned it it go away" so may life's where wasted because of Trump.

    Uhm totally provably false,

    Please don't use facts on the Leftie. It only confuses and triggers him.

    "It's amazing that so many people on the left are able to just ignore that which goes against their theories."
    -- Thomas Sowell


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Denn on Tue Sep 14 08:30:00 2021
    Denn wrote to John Martin <=-

    After I had my vaccine I got an enlarged heart like so many others, I think I would have rather had covid than the side effects.

    It was predicted early on that our response to COVID would kill more people than COVID.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Denn on Tue Sep 14 08:33:00 2021
    Denn wrote to plt <=-

    The problem I see is the leftists always stubornly think they're right
    no matter what.

    That's why we call them the "Elites". They believe that they are far smarter than everyone else and that they don't need to discuss anything. People should just defer to their wisdom.

    That's also why it's so frustrating to have a discussion with them. Most people have the idea that they are right, but if given good evidence and argument, they might change their minds. The Leftie Elites can only accept the idea that they are right and no matter what facts or arguments you bring, they will hold that they are right.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Tue Sep 14 08:37:00 2021
    plt wrote to Denn <=-

    I have and the shot works if you follow the CDC guidelines.

    The medical literature says otherwise. I thought you said you read tit. Or do you only read the "state aproved" medical propaganda?

    Why is that so hard for you to understand.

    Because... reality. Lefties cannot handle reality because they so badly want their false Narrative to be true.

    Maybe if you stop listening to the
    GOP you may undestand what I have been explaining.

    And... as expected, right into full TDS mode.

    I have already read
    and post the information hee from CDC and By the way CDC is more
    qualified then you in medcal.

    The CDC is a partisan politial entity. As such is is unqualified and is not a credible source.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Tue Sep 14 08:42:00 2021
    plt wrote to Denn <=-

    Maybe for some folkes that have a medical reason can not take the shot
    but for most people they can take it, it works as long as they follow
    and do what the CDC recommended. To make your stupid points when the shots work to help prevent the flue and other related virus. ITS BEN
    USED FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES AND IT WORKS.

    You know, for someone who supposedly reads the medical literature, you know very little.

    The common flu vaccine has been around for a long time. It's proven to be safe (at least its side effects and dangers are well documented) and has shown to have no long term health issues.

    The COVID not-vaccine is not a vaccine (by the actual definiton of "vaccine" as opposed to the one the CDC edited last week). It's based on research that has NEVER produced a successful vaccine. It has not been tested. It's side effects are not well documented (in many cases, the side effects are being willfully covered up). It has not been around long enough to demonstrate any long term health issues.

    Comparing the flu vaccine with the COVID not-vaccine just demonstrates your complete ignorance.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 08:47:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    If we've been so divided that we cannot engage in meaningful discourse
    we will all suffer as a result.

    It's not the division. You cannot have meaningful discourse with someone who is certain that they are correct - no matter how much evidence you provide otherwise.

    I do find it amusing that both the Left
    and the Right simultaneously carry beliefs in their head which are in diametrical opposition. We have truly arrived at the "Age of
    Confusion".

    Only because the biggest megaphones of society (Hollywood, Media, Education) have been taken over and completely ruined by the Left in order to spew out their propaganda.

    When everything out there is yelling "X is not true" yet you know that "X is true", it's hard to keep that in your head since you have to spend a large amount of brain power to counter the false information.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Sep 14 08:49:00 2021
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to John Martin <=-

    What some would call u-turns, others would call changing hypotheses as data and evidence presents itself. It's called Science.

    But what the Left calls "science" is more religion.

    If there are 10 facts out there but only 2 support their Narrative, they cling to those 2 facts and dismiss/ignore the other 8. Actual science would examine all 10 facts to find out why they don't agree.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 10:42:05 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to MRO on Tue Sep 14 2021 12:05 pm

    are you the world's greatest doctor? you know something the entire world doesn't know?

    There are plenty of doctors who have spoken about viral load in the past and

    what do doctors know?

    have provided evidence contrary to yours. No virus in history has behaved in the way you suggest which either means you are wrong, or this is an unnatural disease.

    viral researchers came to this conclusion.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Tue Sep 14 10:43:18 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to Denn on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:29 am

    Denn wrote to plt <=-

    When the virus started he down played it by saying something like" I am not concerned it it go away" so may life's where wasted because of Trump.

    Uhm totally provably false,

    Please don't use facts on the Leftie. It only confuses and triggers him.

    i think phil found a new way to get attention. be political.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Tue Sep 14 15:03:30 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:42:00

    plt wrote to Denn <=-

    Maybe for some folkes that have a medical reason can not take the shot but for most people they can take it, it works as long as they follow and do what the CDC recommended. To make your stupid points when the shots work to help prevent the flue and other related
    virus. ITS BEN
    USED FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES AND IT WORKS.

    You know, for someone who supposedly reads the medical literature, you know very little.

    The common flu vaccine has been around for a long time. It's proven to be safe (at least its side effects and dangers are well
    documented) and has shown to have no long term health issues.

    Everything you said has no facts, so stop giving out false informaion fool.


    The COVID not-vaccine is not a vaccine (by the actual definiton of "vaccine" as opposed to the one the CDC edited last week).
    It's
    based on research that has NEVER produced a successful vaccine. It has not been tested. It's side effects are not well
    documented
    (in many cases, the side effects are being willfully covered up). It has not been around long enough to demonstrate any long
    term
    health issues.

    I never said that, so stop twisting the faxts. The Covid-19 is a deadly virus that is fact and the vaccine with following the CDC guidelines help stop the spread of the virus. Next time you reply post som facts or the best thing is to keep your mounth shut.

    TOne is stop ingoring the facts the vaccine has proven to help the spread of viruses. Go away your Saton troll.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Tue Sep 14 15:34:35 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:42:00


    You posted he same reply and you know nothing about the virus. Go away Satan the devil because your acting just like him.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Tue Sep 14 16:58:56 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:47:00

    John Martin wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    If we've been so divided that we cannot engage in meaningful discourse we will all suffer as a result.

    It's not the division. You cannot have meaningful discourse with someone who is certain that they are correct - no matter how
    much
    evidence you provide otherwise.

    I do find it amusing that both the Left
    and the Right simultaneously carry beliefs in their head which are in diametrical opposition. We have truly arrived at the
    "Age of
    Confusion".

    Only because the biggest megaphones of society (Hollywood, Media, Education) have been taken over and completely ruined by the
    Left
    in order to spew out their propaganda.

    When everything out there is yelling "X is not true" yet you know that "X is true", it's hard to keep that in your head since
    you
    have to spend a large amount of brain power to counter the false information.



    There is nothing about politics about the covid-19 virus, and the only fools are the ones who ignore the scientic evidence that leads to spreading of the covis-19 virus. It's really called ignorance to ignore the true facts taking risk even taking the chance of spreading the virus to other individuals that could make them sick or even die from it. In defination that could be consider blood guilt.

    The fact remains:

    1. The cover-19 is a deadly virus.
    2. The spread of the virus can be controlled by individuals getting their shot and follow the CDC recomendations.
    3. The covid-19 virus spreads like the flue ect..
    4. Keep away from to large crowds and wear your mask.
    5. Cleanness is a key factor.
    6. Keep your social distance.

    These facts can not be disputed because they are proven by the CDC.

    Do not follow the CDC recommendations may only lead a person to go to the E.R or be five feet under.

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  • From John Martin@VERT/SILCHAT to Dr. What on Wed Sep 15 12:48:26 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:47:00

    It's not the division. You cannot have meaningful discourse with someone who is certain that they are correct - no matter how much evidence you provide otherwise.

    It is really quite frustrating to speak with people who observe a kind of religious devotion to their own version of the truth. I believe the MSM is fanning the flames by reinforcing their tunnel vision narrative.

    Only because the biggest megaphones of society (Hollywood, Media, Education) have been taken over and completely ruined by the Left in order to spew out their propaganda.

    When everything out there is yelling "X is not true" yet you know that "X is true", it's hard to keep that in your head since you have to spend a large amount of brain power to counter the false information.

    They always feign total ignorance too. This puts you in a position where you have to explain all of the universe; scientific basis, how politics and the media works -- you are then in a position where you have to explain all of that while they attempt to undermine your argument whilst playing dumb saying "this cannot be, this cannot be the case." It is a fake naivety that requires you to do all the running, all the leg work and in the end you are met with a blank slate and an attitude of "why does it matter, why do you care about this?" The onus is on you to explain the entire world and all of human affairs while they feign complete ignorance because their default position is that the world is some sort of "Disney Wonderland" with you having to explain why that isn't the case while they look down their nose at you.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Wed Sep 15 08:15:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Everything you said has no facts, so stop giving out false informaion fool.

    Standard Leftie: Assertions with no factual basis and name calling.

    No wonder why I keep telling people not to bother discussing thing with people like you. You can't have a discussion with someone who just tells you that you are wrong without any facts or arguments to back them up.

    I never said that, so stop twisting the faxts.

    More out of the Leftie playbook: "Twisting the facts" means pointing out inconvienent facts tht counter the false Narrative the Leftie is trying to push.

    The Covid-19 is a deadly virus that is fact

    No. That's Narrative. Survival rate is 99%+. In my state, only 0.7% of the population were "cases" (and most of those were false positives). The death rate was only 0.07% (conflating the "with" COVID and the "from" COVID numbers).

    and the vaccine

    It's not a vaccine. Look up the definition of "vaccine" from a non-Leftie propaganda site.

    At best, it's a theraputic. It does not give immunity. And data out of Isreal is proving that the vaccinated fare WORSE against the variants than the unvaccinated.

    with following the CDC guidelines help stop the spread of the virus.

    "Two weeks to slow the spread". Remember that lie?

    The CDC has no credibility.

    Next time you reply post som facts
    or the best thing is to keep your mounth shut.

    More Leftie eliteism: "Just be quiet and accept the Narrative because I'm smarter than you."

    TOne is stop ingoring the facts the vaccine has proven to help the
    spread of viruses. Go away your Saton troll.

    And I can tell he's triggered by all the mistyping he's doing.

    But that's what happens to a Leftie when confronted by facts that counter his precious Narrative. He has to come to grips with the fact that he's not nearly intelligent and elite as he believes to be.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Wed Sep 15 10:10:58 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:15:00

    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Everything you said has no facts, so stop giving out false informaion fool.

    Standard Leftie: Assertions with no factual basis and name calling.

    No wonder why I keep telling people not to bother discussing thing with people like you. You can't have a discussion with
    someone
    who just tells you that you are wrong without any facts or arguments to back them up.

    I never said that, so stop twisting the faxts.

    More out of the Leftie playbook: "Twisting the facts" means pointing out inconvienent facts tht counter the false Narrative the
    Leftie is trying to push.

    The Covid-19 is a deadly virus that is fact

    No. That's Narrative. Survival rate is 99%+. In my state, only 0.7% of the population were "cases" (and most of those were
    false
    positives). The death rate was only 0.07% (conflating the "with" COVID and the "from" COVID numbers).

    People are still dying from the virus.


    and the vaccine

    It's not a vaccine. Look up the definition of "vaccine" from a non-Leftie propaganda site.

    At best, it's a theraputic. It does not give immunity. And data out of Isreal is proving that the vaccinated fare WORSE
    against
    the variants than the unvaccinated.

    with following the CDC guidelines help stop the spread of the virus.

    "Two weeks to slow the spread". Remember that lie?

    The CDC has no credibility.

    They have more creditablity and the education then you do. The infection rate is going up not down you fool.


    Next time you reply post som facts
    or the best thing is to keep your mounth shut.

    More Leftie eliteism: "Just be quiet and accept the Narrative because I'm smarter than you."

    I doubt that. You talk and think like your a real idiot.


    TOne is stop ingoring the facts the vaccine has proven to help the spread of viruses. Go away your Saton troll.

    And I can tell he's triggered by all the mistyping he's doing.

    But that's what happens to a Leftie when confronted by facts that counter his precious Narrative. He has to come to grips with
    the
    fact that he's not nearly intelligent and elite as he believes to be.

    I think your the one that is lacking the proper intelligence by looking at the facts. People like you spreading false information ijust makes the matter worse. You can not even think intelligence while under the influence of Saton the devil.







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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Wed Sep 15 10:19:29 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Wed Sep 15 2021 08:15:00


    The fact remains that your a eal idiot and that is shows that your under the influence of Saton that prevents your mind from telling the difference between wht is right and what is wrong. People like you that continue to spread false information will help to continue to spread the virus and more people may end up dying. Do everyone favor, go back to school and get soem more education. You only harming our society.

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to John Martin on Wed Sep 15 11:14:40 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Wed Sep 15 2021 12:48:26

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:47:00

    It's not the division. You cannot have meaningful discourse with someone who is certain that they are correct - no matter
    how
    much evidence you provide otherwise.

    It is really quite frustrating to speak with people who observe a kind of religious devotion to their own version of the truth.
    I
    believe the MSM is fanning the flames by reinforcing their tunnel vision narrative.

    Only because the biggest megaphones of society (Hollywood, Media, Education) have been taken over and completely ruined by
    the
    Left in order to spew out their propaganda.

    When everything out there is yelling "X is not true" yet you know that "X is true", it's hard to keep that in your head since
    you have to spend a large amount of brain power to counter the false information.

    They always feign total ignorance too. This puts you in a position where you have to explain all of the universe; scientific
    basis,
    how politics and the media works -- you are then in a position where you have to explain all of that while they attempt to
    undermine your argument whilst playing dumb saying "this cannot be, this cannot be the case." It is a fake naivety that requires
    you to do all the running, all the leg work and in the end you are met with a blank slate and an attitude of "why does it
    matter,
    why do you care about this?" The onus is on you to explain the entire world and all of human affairs while they feign complete
    ignorance because their default position is that the world is some sort of "Disney Wonderland" with you having to explain why
    that
    isn't the case while they look down their nose at you.

    The only peson that that has ignorance here is DR. Who that has no concern for other peoples while being. To him its ok to allow people to run around without wearing mask in the schools and other places and get other sick and really does not give a damn except for him self. The conversation about the virus has nothing to do with politics, its about help stop the spread of the covid-9 virus. He continues to ignore the fact that infection rate continue to raise. One thing for sure thsnk god is not elected official, or a society would be more screwed up then it is right now.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to John Martin on Thu Sep 16 07:53:00 2021
    John Martin wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It is really quite frustrating to speak with people who observe a kind
    of religious devotion to their own version of the truth. I believe the
    MSM is fanning the flames by reinforcing their tunnel vision narrative.

    The Propaganda Ministry (i.e. MSM) is pretty much irrelevant to most people today because of that. We always knew they were left-leaning, but the whole Trump era completely ripped the mask away showing them what they actually are: the Propaganada machine for the left.

    They always feign total ignorance too. This puts you in a position
    where you have to explain all of the universe; scientific basis, how politics and the media works -- you are then in a position where you
    have to explain all of that while they attempt to undermine your
    argument whilst playing dumb saying "this cannot be, this cannot be the case." It is a fake naivety that requires you to do all the running,

    Exactly. These people aren't trying to have a discussion or trying to learn. What they are doing is mentally trying to exhaust you. If you are mentally exhausted, you are more suseptable to the manipulation of the Propaganda Ministry and you are too tired to do things like work to get a election audit in your area.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Thu Sep 16 07:56:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    People are still dying from the virus.

    So? People are still dying from the vaccine. People are still dying from heart disease, the common flu, diabetes, and more.

    They have more creditablity and the education then you do. The
    infection rate is going up not down you fool.

    *Laugh* More Leftie "you're just wrong" with no evidence to back it up, plus name calling.

    I doubt that. You talk and think like your a real idiot.

    "you're" not "your". If you want to be taken seriously, you need to fix your grammar. But you're a leftie, so no one will take you seriously.

    I think your the one that is lacking the proper intelligence by looking
    at the facts. People like you spreading false information ijust makes
    the matter worse. You can not even think intelligence while under the influence of Saton the devil.

    And back to the assertions without evidence to back them up plus name calling.

    Lefties would never be able to win in debate class today.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Thu Sep 16 08:42:00 2021
    plt wrote to John Martin <=-

    The only peson that that has ignorance here is DR. Who that has no
    concern for other peoples while being.

    Ahh.. the "if you don't do as we command, you'll kill grandma" false argument.

    To him its ok to allow people to
    run around without wearing mask in the schools and other places and get other sick and really does not give a damn except for him self.

    More Leftie Playbook: Mind reading. Lefties make up a fantasy about what someone is thinking and then act as though they were correct.

    The conversation about the virus has nothing to do with politics,

    The response to the virus is 100% political.

    The standard leftie exploitation of a "crisis" is this:
    1. Take a crisis, or blow up something small into a crisis, or just make one up (like climate change).
    2. Wrap a false Narrative around it.
    3. When people point out that the Narrartive is false, scream that they are "deniers", "racists", etc. whatever label they are using this week and that they know nothing.

    its about help stop the spread of the covid-9 virus.

    Capitalization occurs at the start of sentances.
    "its" should be "It's" since it's a contraction of "It is".
    "help stop" is horrible grammar. What school did you go to so I can make sure that my kids never go to that one. It should be "helping to stop".

    If they actually wanted to help stop (see that's where "help stop" is correct) COVID they's be looking at the drugs that have been proven to work. Instead they are suppressing those drugs. And not only suppressing the drugs, but overriding doctors when they prescribe those drugs for their patients. And, of course, not allowing any discussion about the drugs.

    He continues to ignore the fact that infection rate continue to raise.

    And where are those "facts"? I only see "case" numbers that I see are made using a test that can't tell the difference between the common flu and COVID. Remember we are in flu season.

    We already have proof that hospitals are counting people as COVID if they just have the symptoms. They aren't even running any kind of test. Why? Because hospital administators are getting paid extra for COVID patients.

    One thing for sure thsnk
    god is not elected official, or a society would be more screwed up then
    it is right now.

    *Laugh* First, I'm not a masochist, so you can breath easily that I won't become an elected official.

    It's "thank" not "thsnk", but that's not bad since "a" and "s" are
    next to each other on the keyboard.

    Then "thank god is not elected official" should probably be "thank God that he's not an elected official."

    No charge for the grammar lesson.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Thu Sep 16 09:50:15 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Thu Sep 16 2021 07:56:00

    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    People are still dying from the virus.

    So? People are still dying from the vaccine. People are still dying from heart disease, the common flu, diabetes, and more.

    More people are dying from the virus then getting shots. You never posted any proof just her say on the other things you said, so your being ingored. Proof speaks the truth.


    They have more creditablity and the education then you do. The infection rate is going up not down you fool.

    *Laugh* More Leftie "you're just wrong" with no evidence to back it up, plus name calling.

    The CDC has more education then you will ever have in your life time.


    I doubt that. You talk and think like your a real idiot.

    "you're" not "your". If you want to be taken seriously, you need to fix your grammar. But you're a leftie, so no one will take
    you seriously.

    I think your the one that is lacking the proper intelligence by looking at the facts. People like you spreading false information ijust makes the matter worse. You can not even think intelligence while under the influence of Saton the devil.

    And back to the assertions without evidence to back them up plus name calling.

    Your the one posting all he crap with nothing to prove it for some time now.

    Lefties would never be able to win in debate class today.

    It has nothing to with politics, so get over! Your the one that is making it a political issue.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dr. What on Thu Sep 16 10:02:53 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Thu Sep 16 2021 08:42:00

    plt wrote to John Martin <=-

    The only peson that that has ignorance here is DR. Who that has no concern for other peoples while being.

    Ahh.. the "if you don't do as we command, you'll kill grandma" false argument.

    Your mother must have knocked you over the head to many times using a frying pan and she was so poor when your where going to school that she could not afford to buy your books, so she got them at the county junk yard.


    To him its ok to allow people to
    run around without wearing mask in the schools and other places and get other sick and really does not give a damn except
    for
    him self.

    More Leftie Playbook: Mind reading. Lefties make up a fantasy about what someone is thinking and then act as though they were
    correct.

    You way to retarted to understand politics, and the virus has nothing to do with it.


    The conversation about the virus has nothing to do with politics,

    The response to the virus is 100% political.

    The standard leftie exploitation of a "crisis" is this:
    1. Take a crisis, or blow up something small into a crisis, or just make one up (like climate change).
    2. Wrap a false Narrative around it.
    3. When people point out that the Narrartive is false, scream that they are "deniers", "racists", etc. whatever label they are
    using this week and that they know nothing.

    It's time to get your head out of your ass.


    its about help stop the spread of the covid-9 virus.

    Capitalization occurs at the start of sentances.
    "its" should be "It's" since it's a contraction of "It is".
    "help stop" is horrible grammar. What school did you go to so I can make sure that my kids never go to that one. It should be
    "helping to stop".

    If they actually wanted to help stop (see that's where "help stop" is correct) COVID they's be looking at the drugs that have
    been
    proven to work. Instead they are suppressing those drugs. And not only suppressing the drugs, but overriding doctors when they
    prescribe those drugs for their patients. And, of course, not allowing any discussion about the drugs.

    He continues to ignore the fact that infection rate continue to raise.

    And where are those "facts"? I only see "case" numbers that I see are made using a test that can't tell the difference between
    the
    common flu and COVID. Remember we are in flu season.

    We already have proof that hospitals are counting people as COVID if they just have the symptoms. They aren't even running any
    kind of test. Why? Because hospital administators are getting paid extra for COVID patients.

    You posted no facts here, just her day. The proof is in the message that you have been posting here.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Fri Sep 17 08:30:00 2021
    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    More people are dying from the virus then getting shots.

    Only in your bubble of ignorance.

    You never
    posted any proof just her say on the other things you said, so your
    being ingored. Proof speaks the truth.

    It's not my job to educate you. But you've already demonstrated that you are an ignorant Leftie who cannot be educated. So why should I waste time providing you information that you should be seeking out on your own, and that you will ignore/dismiss if I did provide it for you?

    The CDC has more education then you will ever have in your life time.

    And this is why we don't waste time "discussing" things with Lefties. You can't discuss anything with someone who believes he's right - no matter what.

    It has nothing to with politics, so get over! Your the one that is
    making it a political issue.

    Lefties always project. It's Lefties who have to attach everything to politics.


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  • From SBBSVA@VERT to Dr. What on Fri Sep 17 07:15:16 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Thu Sep 16 2021 07:56 am

    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-
    > pl> I doubt that. You talk and think like your a real idiot.

    "you're" not "your". If you want to be taken seriously, you need to fix your grammar. But you're a leftie, so no one will take
    you seriously.


    You need a imrpovement on your education. o back to school to learn how to read and understand real facts first.

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  • From SBBSVA@VERT to John Martin on Fri Sep 17 07:31:25 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: John Martin to Dr. What on Wed Sep 15 2021 12:48 pm

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to John Martin on Tue Sep 14 2021 08:47:00

    It's not the division. You cannot have meaningful discourse with someone who is certain that they are correct - no matter
    how
    much evidence you provide otherwise.

    It is really quite frustrating to speak with people who observe a kind of religious devotion to their own version of the truth.
    I
    believe the MSM is fanning the flames by reinforcing their tunnel vision narrative.

    Only because the biggest megaphones of society (Hollywood, Media, Education) have been taken over and completely ruined by
    the
    Left in order to spew out their propaganda.

    When everything out there is yelling "X is not true" yet you know that "X is true", it's hard to keep that in your head since
    you have to spend a large amount of brain power to counter the false information.

    They always feign total ignorance too. This puts you in a position where you have to explain all of the universe; scientific
    basis,
    how politics and the media works -- you are then in a position where you have to explain all of that while they attempt to
    undermine your argument whilst playing dumb saying "this cannot be, this cannot be the case." It is a fake naivety that requires
    you to do all the running, all the leg work and in the end you are met with a blank slate and an attitude of "why does it
    matter,
    why do you care about this?" The onus is on you to explain the entire world and all of human affairs while they feign complete
    ignorance because their default position is that the world is some sort of "Disney Wonderland" with you having to explain why
    that
    isn't the case while they look down their nose at you.

    Dr What has a mental issue that prevents him from knowing what is the difference between reality and finction. Dr. What continues to say stupid ass remarks with out posting any evidence of what he is sayin is true. He walked and talks liks the people that live back in the 1800's. Post some proof, or keep your damn mouth shut for now on.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to SBBSVA on Fri Sep 17 10:06:41 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: SBBSVA to Dr. What on Fri Sep 17 2021 07:15 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to plt on Thu Sep 16 2021 07:56 am

    plt wrote to Dr. What <=-
    > pl> I doubt that. You talk and think like your a real idiot.

    "you're" not "your". If you want to be taken seriously, you need to fix your grammar. But you're a leftie, so no one will take you seriously.


    You need a imrpovement on your education. o back to school to learn how to read and understand real facts first.

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    [vert.synchro.net]
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Fri Sep 17 08:53:33 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to SBBSVA on Fri Sep 17 2021 10:06 am

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    You've used multiple accounts to post on Dove-Net (not often, but I've seen it).. And you're questioning others doing it?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Sep 17 13:00:08 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 17 2021 08:53 am

    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to SBBSVA on Fri Sep 17 2021 10:06 am

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    You've used multiple accounts to post on Dove-Net (not often, but I've

    seen
    it).. And you're questioning others doing it?

    i never did it to pull bullshit. phil is pulling bullshit.
    people knew who i was. and i didnt do it frequently. i use the name jas hud on people's bbses and then the name mro on my own systems. not a big deal.
    real name/handle. get it?

    so yes, i am fucking questioning it, mr autistic.

    also i blocked the retard. now i gotta punch in another name.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri Sep 17 17:59:45 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: MRO to SBBSVA on Fri Sep 17 2021 10:06 am

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    Because he is Usenet material, and believes this is the Usenet, where switching nicks is a way of circumventing filters?

    This reminds me of a Spanish RPG forum in which some RPG author was involved in a thread about his most recent game. Everybody hated the game (as far as my information goes, they hated it rightly). The author started bringing sockpuppets to support his game in order to make it look like somebody, somewhere, liked the game.

    I would feel bad for that guy if that guy hadn't been an asshole.

    I also remember he started spamming another RPG group I was involved with. I am ok with a bit of self-promotion, specially in niche hobbies, but what this guy was doing was flat out flooding. I reported him as a spammer to the site administrator and posted a link to a video review of the game who made it clear it was crap. The author started sending threatening PMs, which I should have printed, marked and hung on a wall.

    Ah, nothing like screwing a spammish troll. I suppose I should feel guilty because that guy was obviously socially challenged, but mercy is for the weak.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PLT on Sat Sep 18 11:34:00 2021
    Dr What has a mental issue that prevents him from knowing what is the differen
    between reality and finction. Dr. What continues to say stupid ass remarks wi
    out posting any evidence of what he is sayin is true. He walked and talks lik
    the people that live back in the 1800's. Post some proof, or keep your damn mo
    h shut for now on.

    I believe that people in the 1800s may have been smarter than they are now.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Sep 18 11:27:00 2021
    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    Looks like he maybe accidentally responded to messages in his BBS's QWK
    account QWK packets, or while logged in as his BBS account on Vert?


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 18 21:21:20 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to PLT on Sat Sep 18 2021 11:34:00

    Dr What has a mental issue that prevents him from knowing what is the differen
    between reality and finction. Dr. What continues to say stupid ass remarks wi
    out posting any evidence of what he is sayin is true. He walked and talks lik
    the people that live back in the 1800's. Post some proof, or keep your damn mo
    h shut for now on.

    I believe that people in the 1800s may have been smarter than they are now.


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    Dr. What is acting like the children on the Jerry Springer Show.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to SBBSVA on Sat Sep 18 20:53:00 2021
    SBBSVA wrote to John Martin <=-

    Dr What has a mental issue that prevents him from knowing what is the difference between reality and finction.

    Standard Leftie tactic: Make up something about his opponent with no factual basis, then pretend that he is correct in his assessment.

    Coupled with another standard Leftie tactic: Smear his opponent with a label without any argument or evidence.

    Leftie Elites like this seem to hold a position that they are "correct" and will permit no amount of discussion otherwise.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Sat Sep 18 20:54:00 2021
    MRO wrote to SBBSVA <=-

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    Personally, I think that there are really only 2 or 3 of these people here. They post on 1 handle until people stop looking at their posts, then switch to a new one for a while.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 18 20:56:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to PLT <=-

    I believe that people in the 1800s may have been smarter than they are now.

    I wanted to disagree with that. But then I read some other posts here. 8)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 18 22:52:03 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Sep 18 2021 11:27 am

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    Looks like he maybe accidentally responded to messages in his BBS's QWK account QWK packets, or while logged in as his BBS account on Vert?


    * SLMR 2.1a * Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.

    no, when you use a qwk account, you just can use qwk

    https://i.imgur.com/Cf3YKvg.png

    it could be that phil the retard didn't answer yes to 'is this a qwk account', but still he knew what he was doing.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sat Sep 18 22:56:46 2021
    Re: Re: Covid Delta
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sat Sep 18 2021 08:54 pm

    MRO wrote to SBBSVA <=-

    why is idiot phil using multiple accounts to post on dovenet.

    Personally, I think that there are really only 2 or 3 of these people here. They post on 1 handle until people stop looking at their posts, then switch to a new one for a while.



    every once in a while someone crawls from under a rock and posts 1 comment and then disappears, so you may be somewhat