• New Terminator movie coming out

    From Nightfox@46:1/150 to All on Fri Aug 30 12:49:23 2019
    There's a new Terminator movie coming out (and I've heard it will be released November 1st):
    https://youtu.be/rVy1BPd4A0I

    I heard James Cameron is back for this one as the director, and that they're making it as a sequel to Terminator 2, ignoring the later movies. Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger are back for this one too.

    I'm interested in seeing it. Terminator 2 was my favorite Terminator movie, but I also thought "Terminator Salvation" was good. I thought Genisys was interesting but was also a bit disappointing. The end of Genisys was left open for a sequel, but I guess Genisys didn't do very well in theaters.

    Nightfox
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Nightfox on Sat Aug 31 19:18:52 2019
    On 30 Aug 2019 at 12:49p, Nightfox pondered and said...

    I'm interested in seeing it. Terminator 2 was my favorite Terminator movie, but I also thought "Terminator Salvation" was good. I thought Genisys was interesting but was also a bit disappointing. The end of Genisys was left open for a sequel, but I guess Genisys didn't do very well in theaters.

    Hi there ;)

    Yep I'm with you. I think it will be interesting to see what they do with it now but after so many movies I am not sure it command the element of suprise and wow factor it once did.
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  • From Nightfox@46:1/150 to Avon on Sat Aug 31 11:40:43 2019
    Re: Re: New Terminator movie coming out
    By: Avon to Nightfox on Sat Aug 31 2019 07:18 pm

    Yep I'm with you. I think it will be interesting to see what they do with it now but after so many movies I am not sure it command the element of suprise and wow factor it once did.

    This one has James Cameron onboard again (as producer), and it stars Linda Hamilton again, as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger. It seems to have those things going for it. So we'll see.

    Nightfox
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Nightfox on Mon Sep 2 16:52:42 2019
    On 31 Aug 2019 at 11:40a, Nightfox pondered and said...
    This one has James Cameron onboard again (as producer), and it stars
    Linda Hamilton again, as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger. It seems to
    have those things going for it. So we'll see.

    I hope they set it so that the old cast has aged as per the time that has
    past vs trying to make them look so young it's not credible. I'm with you
    lets see how it plays out. I'll watch it but don't have high hopes.
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  • From Nightfox@46:1/150 to Avon on Mon Sep 2 11:31:43 2019
    Re: Re: New Terminator movie coming out
    By: Avon to Nightfox on Mon Sep 02 2019 04:52 pm

    This one has James Cameron onboard again (as producer), and it stars
    Linda Hamilton again, as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger. It seems to
    have those things going for it. So we'll see.

    I hope they set it so that the old cast has aged as per the time that has past vs trying to make them look so young it's not credible. I'm with you lets see how it plays out. I'll watch it but don't have high hopes.

    Yeah, I think the new Terminator is supposed to be set about 25 or 30 years after Terminator 2, so their age should about match the time that has gone by.

    Nightfox
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Nightfox on Mon Sep 2 20:51:08 2019
    on 02 Sep 2019, Nightfox said...

    I hope they set it so that the old cast has aged as per the time
    that
    past vs trying to make them look so young it's not credible. I'm
    with
    lets see how it plays out. I'll watch it but don't have high hopes.

    Yeah, I think the new Terminator is supposed to be set about 25 or 30 years after Terminator 2, so their age should about match the time that has gone by.

    I'll just bring you some dialogue that's sure to emerge in the movie...

    "YOU'RE LATE!"
    "....but I'm back."
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Digital Avatar on Tue Sep 3 20:05:09 2019
    On 02 Sep 2019 at 08:51p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    on 02 Sep 2019, Nightfox said...
    I'll just bring you some dialogue that's sure to emerge in the movie...

    "YOU'RE LATE!"
    "....but I'm back."

    or

    We're all going to die!!
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Avon on Wed Sep 4 23:21:20 2019
    on 03 Sep 2019, Avon said...

    On 02 Sep 2019 at 08:51p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    on 02 Sep 2019, Nightfox said...
    I'll just bring you some dialogue that's sure to emerge in the
    movie.

    "YOU'RE LATE!"
    "....but I'm back."

    or

    We're all going to die!!

    You know, if it can actually top Sarah Connor imagining her own death during the nuking of Los Angeles, then it might actually be worth watching.
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Digital Avatar on Thu Sep 5 20:51:32 2019
    On 04 Sep 2019 at 11:21p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    You know, if it can actually top Sarah Connor imagining her own death during the nuking of Los Angeles, then it might actually be worth watching.

    I imagine we'll get nukes, terminators, morphing tech, I'll be back, Jooohhnn Coonnner..., and all the usuals :)

    Can I have a side order of fries with the too :)
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Avon on Thu Sep 5 21:34:39 2019
    on 05 Sep 2019, Avon said...

    Can I have a side order of fries with the too :)

    NO DEAL. *BLAM*
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Digital Avatar on Fri Sep 6 19:25:32 2019
    On 05 Sep 2019 at 09:34p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    NO DEAL. *BLAM*

    I'll be back... BTW do you know where Saaarh Coonnner is?
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Avon on Fri Sep 6 00:47:46 2019
    on 06 Sep 2019, Avon said...

    On 05 Sep 2019 at 09:34p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    NO DEAL. *BLAM*

    I'll be back... BTW do you know where Saaarh Coonnner is?

    In the first film he just went through the phone book and systematically
    killed every single one of them to be sure. Please, please, PLEASE tell me
    that in this one he'll use Facebook to find her. :D
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Digital Avatar on Sat Sep 7 19:47:04 2019
    On 06 Sep 2019 at 12:47a, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    In the first film he just went through the phone book and systematically killed every single one of them to be sure. Please, please, PLEASE tell
    me that in this one he'll use Facebook to find her. :D

    No it's better than that.... hey Siri... :)
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Avon on Sat Sep 7 13:38:05 2019
    on 07 Sep 2019, Avon said...

    On 06 Sep 2019 at 12:47a, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    In the first film he just went through the phone book and
    systematica
    killed every single one of them to be sure. Please, please, PLEASE
    te
    me that in this one he'll use Facebook to find her. :D

    No it's better than that.... hey Siri... :)

    ...but only if he has repeated trouble with it's voice recognition and ultimately crushes the phone in frustration.
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  • From Avon@46:3/203 to Digital Avatar on Sun Sep 8 12:40:56 2019
    On 07 Sep 2019 at 01:38p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    ...but only if he has repeated trouble with it's voice recognition and ultimately crushes the phone in frustration.

    Who needs script writers when we're on the case huh ?: :)
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Avon on Sat Sep 7 21:21:26 2019
    on 08 Sep 2019, Avon said...

    On 07 Sep 2019 at 01:38p, Digital Avatar pondered and said...

    ...but only if he has repeated trouble with it's voice recognition
    an
    ultimately crushes the phone in frustration.

    Who needs script writers when we're on the case huh ?: :)

    Clearly we need to register with the Writer's Guild.
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  • From lecatmure@46:1/104 to Nightfox on Mon Sep 9 06:45:07 2019
    I heard James Cameron is back for this one as the director, and that they're making it as a sequel to Terminator 2, ignoring the later
    movies.
    Sweet! Honestly the best course of action the studios could do. Will
    definitely check it out when it comes out!

    -lecatmure
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  • From Nightfox@46:1/150 to lecatmure on Mon Sep 9 09:51:27 2019
    Re: New Terminator movie coming out
    By: lecatmure to Nightfox on Mon Sep 09 2019 06:45 am

    I heard James Cameron is back for this one as the director, and that
    they're making it as a sequel to Terminator 2, ignoring the later
    movies.

    Sweet! Honestly the best course of action the studios could do. Will definitely check it out when it comes out!

    I just wish it had been done sooner (or rather, James Cameron had stayed on for more Terminator movies earlier).

    Nightfox
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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/140 to Nightfox on Tue Oct 1 23:44:36 2019
    $ Nightfox was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This one has James Cameron onboard again (as producer), and it stars Linda Hamilton again, as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger. It seems to have those things going for it. So we'll see.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I don't know, the first one was the best - it was dark and erie almost like a horror flick back in the day. After that it seems like it was just action
    which isn't bad.

    Sorta like the original Robo Cop - CPU exec's doing coke in the bath room, the blood and gore,, ever movie that folowed was just a disaster and for kids and kept getting worse..
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  • From Nightfox@46:1/150 to Mercyful Fate on Tue Oct 1 22:25:47 2019
    Re: Re: New Terminator movie coming out
    By: Mercyful Fate to Nightfox on Tue Oct 01 2019 11:44 pm

    I don't know, the first one was the best - it was dark and erie almost like a horror flick back in the day. After that it seems like it was just action which isn't bad.

    I think I liked the 2nd one better. But the 2nd one was the first Terminator movie I saw, so maybe I'm biased. I later saw the first one, and I thought it was good, but to me the first one seemed like a campy low-budget B-movie. I did like the dark and eerie feel of it though. I think the 2nd one was an awesome sequel though. Sequels can be disappointing most of the time, but I thought Terminator 2 took it up a notch. The story, acting, pacing, special effects, basically everything seemed better than the first movie. And it had the twist that you didn't know which was the good one and which was the bad one until it was revealed maybe half way or 1/3 of the way into the movie.

    Nightfox
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  • From MeaTLoTioN@46:20/106 to All on Wed Oct 2 17:14:32 2019
    On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:25:00 GMT
    Nightfox wrote:

    Re: Re: New Terminator movie coming out
    By: Mercyful Fate to Nightfox on Tue Oct 01 2019 11:44 pm

    I don't know, the first one was the best - it was dark and erie
    almost like a horror flick back in the day. After that it seems
    like it was just action which isn't bad.

    I think I liked the 2nd one better. But the 2nd one was the first
    Terminator movie I saw, so maybe I'm biased. I later saw the first
    one, and I thought it was good, but to me the first one seemed like a
    campy low-budget B-movie. I did like the dark and eerie feel of it
    though. I think the 2nd one was an awesome sequel though. Sequels
    can be disappointing most of the time, but I thought Terminator 2
    took it up a notch. The story, acting, pacing, special effects,
    basically everything seemed better than the first movie. And it had
    the twist that you didn't know which was the good one and which was
    the bad one until it was revealed maybe half way or 1/3 of the way
    into the movie.

    Nightfox
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    I agree with this...
    I don't know, the first one was the best - it was dark and erie
    almost like a horror flick back in the day. After that it seems
    like it was just action which isn't bad.

    I do really like all the films but for me the first is way better
    because of the dark and eerie horror type feeling. I think it's the way
    the first film makes me feel by captivating me to a point where it feels
    like im kinda in the tv with them sharing those moments of time first
    hand. I don't get that from any of the others.
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to Mercyful Fate on Wed Oct 2 23:40:16 2019
    on 01 Oct 2019, Mercyful Fate said...

    I don't know, the first one was the best - it was dark and erie almost like a horror flick back in the day. After that it seems like it was
    just action which isn't bad.

    Actually, yeah, that's a pretty good take on what made The Terminator good:
    It was a horror flick masquerading as a science fiction / action film. The sequels just became simple action movies. No horror. No suspense. Just explosions. Fake and gay. Still, T2 did at least give us that great dream sequence where LA gets nuked and Sarah watches herself get burned to ashes
    and blown away by the blast. A for effort on that part at least.

    Sorta like the original Robo Cop - CPU exec's doing coke in the bath
    room, the blood and gore,, ever movie that folowed was just a disaster
    and for kids and kept getting worse..

    Yeah, that's because of Paul Verhoeven. His signature style was all over the first film, but he got replaced in the sequel. He's the guy who put in all
    the over-the-top, almost mockumentary-like elements in Starship Troopers as well. Oh, and Total Recall. Can't forget that one. He was all over some of
    the best 80's science fiction / action flicks.
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to MeaTLoTioN on Wed Oct 2 23:42:24 2019
    on 02 Oct 2019, MeaTLoTioN said...

    I do really like all the films but for me the first is way better
    because of the dark and eerie horror type feeling. I think it's the way

    I'll say this: The third film somewhat redeemed itself with the ending (i.e. Judgement Day was inevitable and could not be avoided, and SkyNet was decentralized across everyone's hacked phones, PCs, etc). Even if the rest of the movie was pretty weak, that ending made up for it... as long as I didn't pay money to see it, anyway.
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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Digital Avatar on Fri Oct 4 05:39:18 2019
    on 02 Oct 2019, Digital Avatar said...

    The sequels just became simple action movies. No horror.

    While not nearly as dark as the first movie, I thought T2 had some tense moments and an interesting tone overall that the later movies lacked. I think
    a lot of the problem is that the suspense of, for example, the opening chase with the T800 chasing John, is a lot weaker with subsequent watches. The
    first time I saw it (as a kid, going in blind) I found a lot of that stuff to be really effective. When I watch it these days, it mostly feels like a straight up action movie to me.

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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to jack phlash on Fri Oct 4 11:32:08 2019
    on 04 Oct 2019, jack phlash said...

    While not nearly as dark as the first movie, I thought T2 had some tense moments and an interesting tone overall that the later movies lacked. I think a lot of the problem is that the suspense of, for example, the opening chase with the T800 chasing John, is a lot weaker with
    subsequent watches. The first time I saw it (as a kid, going in blind) I found a lot of that stuff to be really effective. When I watch it these days, it mostly feels like a straight up action movie to me.

    It just straight up felt like an extended chase scene in an action movie. I mean, the morphing effects of the T1000 were an interesting gimmick, but
    that's all they were. There just wasn't any suspense, and definitely no
    horror. Hell, the closest to horror we get is when they break into that Cyberdyne researcher's home and John orders the T800 to rip his own arm off
    to show he's a machine.
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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Digital Avatar on Sat Oct 5 14:19:16 2019
    on 04 Oct 2019, Digital Avatar said...

    It just straight up felt like an extended chase scene in an action
    movie. I mean, the morphing effects of the T1000 were an interesting gimmick, but that's all they were. There just wasn't any suspense, and definitely no horror. Hell, the closest to horror we get is when they break into that Cyberdyne researcher's home and John orders the T800 to rip his own arm off to show he's a machine.

    To me as a kid watching those chase seens, there was a certain menacing precense to the T800 and later T1000 (largely due to their cold robotic
    nature and how damn unstoppable they seemed, as in the first movie) that made it feel darker than a straight up action scene to me. I don't really feel
    that these days, but I distinctly recall feeling that was when I was younger. *shrug*

    How old were you when you saw T2? Did you feel the same way back then?

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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to jack phlash on Sat Oct 5 18:17:57 2019
    on 05 Oct 2019, jack phlash said...

    To me as a kid watching those chase seens, there was a certain menacing precense to the T800 and later T1000 (largely due to their cold robotic nature and how damn unstoppable they seemed, as in the first movie) that made it feel darker than a straight up action scene to me. I don't
    really feel that these days, but I distinctly recall feeling that was
    when I was younger. *shrug*

    Yeah, can't say I felt the same, but...

    How old were you when you saw T2? Did you feel the same way back then?

    ...in 1991 I was 12 years old. Didn't faze me. OTOH, I'm also the kid who saw John Carpenter's _The Thing_ when I was like 5 years old. The sight of a
    guy's head popping off, sprouting legs, and crawling away didn't faze me either. So, yeah, I've always been a little weird. :D
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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Digital Avatar on Sat Oct 5 18:44:29 2019
    on 05 Oct 2019, Digital Avatar said...

    Yeah, can't say I felt the same, but...

    ...in 1991 I was 12 years old. Didn't faze me. OTOH, I'm also the kid
    who saw John Carpenter's _The Thing_ when I was like 5 years old. The sight of a guy's head popping off, sprouting legs, and crawling away didn't faze me either. So, yeah, I've always been a little weird. :D

    Yeah, I may have been a little younger than you (maybe 11?) but I hadn't seen tons of horror at that point - the stuff I'd seen was mostly stuff that had
    an element of cheesiness (the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, for instance.) Who knows.

    In any case, I still wouldn't argue that T2 was a straight up horror/thriller like The Terminator was, and the latter movies far less so, so your
    overarching point stands. :)

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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to jack phlash on Sat Oct 5 20:54:53 2019
    on 05 Oct 2019, jack phlash said...

    In any case, I still wouldn't argue that T2 was a straight up horror/thriller like The Terminator was, and the latter movies far less so, so your overarching point stands. :)

    Well, whatever our opinions on the Terminator flicks, can we all agree that
    the new Dune is going to suck moose balls?
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@46:1/115 to Digital Avatar on Sun Oct 6 08:56:00 2019
    Digital Avatar wrote to jack phlash <=-

    Well, whatever our opinions on the Terminator flicks, can we all agree that the new Dune is going to suck moose balls?

    I'm optimistic, but then again I liked the Lynch Dune version. Maybe it'll inspire someone to read the books?
    ... Which parts can be grouped?
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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Digital Avatar on Sun Oct 6 12:10:39 2019
    on 05 Oct 2019, Digital Avatar said...

    Well, whatever our opinions on the Terminator flicks, can we all agree that the new Dune is going to suck moose balls?

    I mean, I wish it wouldn't but it seems like making a good Dune adaption is entirely impossible, doesn't it?

    I admit I have a soft spot for the David Lynch movie. My brother used to constantly watch the rare (at the time) extended TV cut that he recorded when we were kids. Yes, he was a giant geek. :)

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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Oct 6 21:30:56 2019
    on 06 Oct 2019, poindexter FORTRAN said...

    I'm optimistic, but then again I liked the Lynch Dune version. Maybe

    I hated the Lynch version at first. I grew to accept it despite its flaws. If anything it demonstrated that Ian McNiece is the only one with any business playing Vladimir Harkonnen.

    it'll inspire someone to read the books?

    I won't hold my breath.

    ... Which parts can be grouped?

    Pretty much only the way Lynch did it, I think, i.e. Messiah+Children.
    There's no way to group God Emperor with anything.
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  • From Digital Avatar@46:1/145 to jack phlash on Sun Oct 6 21:34:57 2019
    on 06 Oct 2019, jack phlash said...

    I mean, I wish it wouldn't but it seems like making a good Dune adaption is entirely impossible, doesn't it?

    Not at all. Lynch got the general atmosphere right and spent good money on costuming and set design. He picked some halfway decent actors... who then proceeded to ham it up, especially the idiot playing the Baron Harkonnen. By contrast, the miniseries spent about $1.98 on sets and costuming (they
    actually played up the notion that using painted backdrops and stage lighting was a good thing -- I couldn't fucking believe it), picked a bunch of
    nobodies as actors, but walked away with, I think, the better product.

    Also I realize now I accidentally conflated Lynch's movie with the miniseries in another reply in this thread. :/

    I admit I have a soft spot for the David Lynch movie. My brother used to constantly watch the rare (at the time) extended TV cut that he recorded when we were kids. Yes, he was a giant geek. :)

    A giant geek? For how can this be? FOR HE IS THE KWISATZCH HADERACH!

    *music swells* </thread>
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